Trump – Clinton debate: réaction à chaud (Saker rant)

I didn’t watch the (so-called) debate, but from what you say, it would appear as if Trump is trying to “throw” the election, perhaps in lieu of an October surprise (or assassination). They both have cosy-ed up to the Zionists, Hillary much more successfully, and the Ruling Elites clearly want Hillary in the Oval office. Is it possible that Trump has accomplished what he really wanted to accomplish?

I totally agree with the Saker’s wife. Trump seems natural. A Calaban to Lady McBeth of Arkansas – Hilary Clinton. (Sorry to mix up plays). But the ‘bardack’ (Russian for ‘Bedlam’, sorry Barack Obama) which is the USA today is a grotesque mix of tragedy, comedy, farce, vaudeville, melodrama and any other genre you care to throw in the pot.
But Trump also seems to be doing a ‘Bernie’ which makes me think he was controlled opposition all along.

The NWO/AngloZionist Empire have some big fish to fry. This may be their last hurrah in the PNAC-ordained quest for global hegemony. They do not want a wobbly in power who might get ideas… not with fourteen minutes to decide whether to launch or not. Clinton may have ideas, but they are all transparent demagoguery, false, and almost certainly not her own.

The ‘debate’ between The Creature From the Black (Arkansas) Lagoon and Frankenstein (the monster) marks another new low in the devolution of US democracy. A thing that never existed much anyway except in Hollywood and the minds of some civics professors.

But George Bush and Sarah Palin should be pleased. They look a little less revolting and absurd than they did yesterday.

It all makes me happy to be a Monarchist.

I commend The Saker’s courage and the courage of all those who watched. I couldn’t, my stomach has limits. The very face of that simulacre of a woman is enough to trigger nausea. And the disgust arises also from the revival of the images with which she is commonly united.

As for the f..d masses, they were easily duped in voting Reagan in office, long ago – which was the beginning of all that followed. Voting this woman “whose sole name blisters my tongue” is a piece of cake.
But, as useless as it is to say it, Zion had decided long ago on the matter. This indeed is the Judaic Century.
Furthermore, I do not believe that Usrael is finished. On the contrary, it’s alive and more kicking than ever, ready to f…k the world.
I am reminded of a line from a T.S. Eliot’s poem,
“We are the hollow men / We are the stuffed men / Leaning together / Headpiece filled with straw. Alas! / Our dried voices, when / We whisper together / Are quiet and meaningless / As wind in dry grass / Or rats’ feet over broken glass / In our dry cellar / Shape without form, shade without colour, / Paralysed force, gesture without motion…”
And I conclude with the words of Timon of Athens, “I have forgot all men; then, if thou grant’st thou’rt a man (or a woman in this case), I have forgot thee.

Saker sounds like a man who just lost a big bet on the first debate and now is bitching about all the things his team did wrong. (“What was with that ugly blue tie?”)

And then the remark by his son comparing Hillary to a “college professor.” Yes, Hillary is the Monica Lewinsky Professor of Deceit and Perjury at Mortification U.

I didn’t think Trump won the debate, but I thought it was a lot closer than Saker did. With less than 2 months to go until the unintended consequences of being an American citizen are visited upon us, the election is in the hands of the undecided voters. I’ll let your mind toy with the idea of whom they may be and what they are thinking about.

As for me, I’ll be having nightmares about Hellhag, one of Lucifer’s harpies. Who always appears wearing a blinding red pant suit to announce the imminent arrival of Satan.

the media crowed about Romney’s wonderful debate performances against Obama. Didn’t do him much good.

Scott Adams who has predicted Trump’s rise almost to the letter argued Trump did what he needed to do – show he was not completely scary. He also came off as more authentic while Clinton was robotic (she doesn’t even know how to smile naturally).

While I sympathise with your feelings, I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would have expected a different outcome. When two people submit themselves to the machinations of the American “democratic election” circus, which is rigged to the Nth degree in favour of the Deep State and its candidates, why on earth would the relatively honest, straightforward candidate have the slightest chance against the slick, tricky, eloquent, fluent liar?

It’s not as if the candidates had any chance to submit their opponent’s claims to any kind of fact-checking – which would no doubt have bitten Clinton severely in the ass. (Ewwwww, ghastly image). These debates are the classic American public spectacle, like the old snake-oil salesmen’s routines or the performances of Phineas T Barnum. (Remember him? The quintessential American businessman and demagogue. “Never give a sucker an even break” – that was one of his – and also “There’s one born every minute”).

“Please, everybody, enjoy the debates. Remember, this is the last picnic on our roller coaster ride down.”

“Where exactly are we going, mister smart-ass?”

“Good question. Do you see these huge boulders further down the trail? They mark the fringes of a lovely place called Black Hole. If the Talmudic maps I was handed are worth anything, we should be there before night falls.”

When Trump openly said we should have stolen Iraqi oil…in other words openly commit a war crime without even bothering with the obfuscation to hide it…he lost me totally.

It is nice that he seems to respect Russia and (presumably) wants to avoid nuclear war. It is truly a pitty that our standards are so low that all we want is someone who won’t destroy the planet. And a pitty that only this clown meets that standard…maybe.

Here is what everyone seems to overlook. It does not matter what the presidential candidates say for public consumption. Obama lied none stop and the public sucked it down. Or did everyone forget. Trump or Hillary will never formulate, propagate or implement foreign policy. Hillary, her self, has stated that the CFR is responsible for US foreign policy. The Council of Foreign Relations and the Tri-Lateral Commission in concert with the CIA are responsible for all US Foreign Policy. Trump and Hillary are playing “Good Cop vs Bad Cop” for the zombified public. This year as always “300 million Americans get to buy the Brooklyn Bridge again.” What is astounding is that professional journalists and political pundits with real reputations have no clue about the CFR or TLC. To assert that Hillary could draw the USA into a thermonuclear war with Russia is beyond stupidity. Hillary or Trump can only draw you into an outhouse to smell the $hit they are spreading. As for the so-called pros in the business of polit/analysis who write articles for a living, one can only surmise that they are on the take; the goal and objective being to keep you in the outhouse inhaling.

I had serious let down, post debate. Here’s what I was looking forward to. I wanted to see free-style mud wrestling, down and dirty, no holds barred thrashing that brought out all the stored up, pent up ‘wrage’ America feels about how we ‘bin done’ since the Clinton presidency when we got:
1) Glass-Steagal repealed kicking off the meltdown of banking we see today
2) NAFTA, and that hugh ‘sucking sound’ of corporations exiting w/ all our jobs
3) Monika Lewinsky and all the other sordid escapades of a man who can’t keep his cigar in the humidor.

Since then, the revolutions around the drain have increased in frequency as the circle gets tighter and tighter toward the point of no return only held back by QE to the ‘n’th that can ONLY end with disbanding the FRB forever, and wars, and then the tour de force, mother of all false flag/ inside jobs, 9/11 that compromised everything we thought USA stood for and threw the fatal victims and first responders under the bus with our rights to boot. And alas and anon, MOAR wars, the ‘7 countries, 5years’ agenda with absolutely disastrous results. And Clinton wants to stand there, read bumper stickers and parrot sound bites to us, and call it ‘debate’. She was hopeless. But for his part, the donald seemed rocked back on his heels, unprepared, and some-what speechless in the face of his attempted murder by a thousand cuts that began right out of the gate. I couldn’t sleep I was so ticked, I stayed up arguing till 3, with a wife who told me, “she’s a hack, you don’t have to keep arguing; the people are going to see it.” I hope she’s right. And we don’t have to bring up birth certificates. We still don’t have one. OK? Bigger fish to fry.
That’s pretty much my view, but I wanted others. The Scot Adams piece, mentioned here previously, “I score the debate” was a good one to read. It sort of tamped down the fires of outrage in me, and here’s another one I liked, it was as entertaining as it was insightful, in my opinion, and so I offer it here, so that you might also enjoy it:
Rogue Money Report – Post Debate #1 with “V” & CJ (09/26/2016)
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCwedoDJSSs
And, here’s a link to the full debate video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQFGTDFvMSc

Saker

Nothing personal, but I would have preferred a listing of each of the candidates views expressed on the topics brought up. Don’t care about emotional impressions about how they did or what they could have said. Analysis of the views they expressed I also welcome.

As for the impact of these debates, I think that is grossly exaggerated by many, especially in the media. I’ll explain why.

I don’t remember if bush jr did any debates, but I can’t imagine that guy successfully debating himself, let alone a human opponent of 90 or higher IQ. Yet he got enough votes to make it plausible he won. Twice. His opponents were more popular and seen as better qualified than clinton, as well.

So even people widely seen as average don’t really have that as a mark against them, and those seen as sophisticated don’t gain a popularity advantage from it much, either.

Also, most people have already made up their minds before watching one of these superficial debates. If their choice does poorly, they may get upset with them about that, but they don’t switch to the other person, unless their guy expresses a view abhorrent to them that they did not know their chosen one held.