Tulsi Gabbard now:
Tulsi Gabbard then (2015):
People change.
Maybe she changed.
Maybe not.
I am deeply skeptical and simultaneously deeply sympathetic, but I reserve judgement.
The Saker
Saker Message:
Tulsi Gabbard now:
Tulsi Gabbard then (2015):
People change.
Maybe she changed.
Maybe not.
I am deeply skeptical and simultaneously deeply sympathetic, but I reserve judgement.
The Saker
Maybe you reserve judgement but this site is promoting Tulsi Gabbard.. to the last poor fools who believe you can vote for something you want.
Democracy is a cloak for the oligarchy, as it has been since it was first sold to the Greeks. False choices is all we will ever get.
Doing nothing is a vote for giving the ruling oligarchy all the power they want.
The first trick they want to pull on everyone is to convince them that they are powerless and shouldn’t even fight. That is one of the many tricks that let the 1% rule over the 99%, even though on the surface they appear to be mightily outnumbered. Its easy to win a battle when you first demoralize the enemy so badly that they don’t even appear on the battlefield.
What’s the old quote? Something like “Evil triumphs when good people stay silent and do nothing.”
Every candidate up for election is controlled opposition, whether they’re “true believers” or simply blackmailed and/or bribed, i.e. the “house always wins”. If you’re going to vote then spoil the ballot. Gabbard was always a fake. You’d think people would have worked this out by now. Besides, the democratic systems we’re all used to would be labelled as “oligarchic” if Aristotle were to catalogue ’em, i.e. they’re not democratic. We get people to represent us, candidates that always end up (for some strange reason) executing oligarchic policies, i.e. wars and debt. We live in oligarchies hiding behind the facade of democracy.
@flopot
I get your cynicism regarding Gabbard, (any Western politician who seems too good to true usually is; besides many believe she was manufactured out of the same Hawaii based American establishment/security-state “farm” another very suave candidate came from: Barack Hussein Obama).
She’s stunning and elegant, extremely calm, cultured and controlled, she’s polished, and yet, despite the movie star looks, she comes across as intelligent, honest and one who makes rational arguments. And she’s unique, she’s neither Christian, nor Jewish nor Muslim nor atheist, she’s a Hindu (a neutral category in US politics and geo-politics). Finally she says everything the average thinking person wants to hear (is non intervention and peace); just like Barack Hussein Obama, and Trump did before they were elected. Yep too good to be true so I can’t disagree with those who don’t believe she’s for real.
You state that every candidate in US politics is controlled opposition. Not true: how do you explain Trump? He’s a guy that’s taken a wrecking ball to the transatlantic alliance: openly treating the pompous european elites like 3rd world colonies (going out of his way to humiliate them – something they deserve btw). Openly sanctioning them and hitting them with tarrifs, threatening (openly) European multinationals, threatening North Stream (openly). This is not the work of controlled opposition, this is the work of a free radical playing to his base and angling for short term gain, he’s got his own agenda and it collides with many aspects of the transatlantic old-boys establishment.
Anaam, Trump was a dreadful accident. He had no intention of winning, and no expectation of doing so, but was aided by the DNC, and manipulated by hard Right fascists, like the Mercers, using the most up to date techniques of micro-targeting voters. The DNC, by imposing a justly hated and unelectable candidate, Clinton, through cheating Sanders of the nomination, drove the huge abstention rate. And Trump probably had no idea of how effective Cambridge Analytica et al would be in getting him elected, and how he would be used to drive the hard Right and the Likudnik Zionazis’ programs. I must say that I find the theories that Trump is leading a secret fight-back against the oligarchs quite the funniest thing I’ve seen in decades-perhaps centuries.
@Mulgamunglebrain
Why yes! I’ll take it as fact that you know all this as fact and have absolute knowledge on the topic. Or… Perhaps it wouldn’t be such a good idea for you to be so sure of your own theory (that Trump was an unwilling victor etc. etc). and at the same time laugh at others who hold the theory that Trump was a secret hero. I think both theories stretch the imagination and neither holds a monopoly on the truth.
My only point is that I don’t believe he’s “controlled opposition”, he’s got his own narrow agenda and that he has wrecked the momentum of the Anglophile slime that has subverted the United States to the interests of those parasitical transatlantic inbred worms in the UK and, to a lesser degree, the EU.
“any Western politician who seems too good to true usually is”
Why do you limit so?
The Russian Kleptocracy are currently implementing a heist from their pensioners and the Chinese ones are organising a social contract to give extra points to people who give to charity (rather than have the Kleptocracy provide funds via progressive taxation against the rich for these required social projects).
Most people hereabouts say the Chinese Communist Party have pulled hundreds of millions of people out of poverty rather than a simple truth that they have, rather, ensnared hundreds of millions in the Capitalist rat race i.e. more demand for stuff that is not needed. Here are some of the happiest people on earth http://fameiva.com/happiest-tribe-on-earth/ – the Xi fanclub would require they be given a hand up.
The world is controlled by a global oligarchy but most people will never accept such a truth. Why is trade booming with the so-called pariah state, Israel? Both China and Russia have burgeoning economic ties with the “evil Zionists”. People need to wise up, and fast.
@Anonymous (re Russian Kleptocracy, President Xi and Chinese capitalists, etc.)
You ask: why do I limited the critique to western politicians? I don’t, just the context in that posting was the Western political system. However, I will say this much: western politicians, particularly of the anglosphere and the EU are the most shameless in their obvious lies and dishonesty. They differentiate themselves from the politicians of other cultures in this manner. In other cultures thieves and liars try to keep a low profile and economize their words, but in the West, the politicians make a sport of being as loud and in your face dishonest as they can muster – it is a pathology. Almost a point of pride and arrogance amongst these conscience-less subhumans: they seem gain a pleasure high for duping the masses with ever more outrageous and obvious lies (they call it sticking to their talking points, the rest of us call lying like a psychopath).
However, I do agree with you regarding your point of view regarding the hypocrisy of the chinese system that applies a flat tax on both billionaires and basket-makers. It makes those uncritical of China’s system look extremely foolish and weak in character (and ridiculous). And yes I also agree that politicians of all cultures, including Russia’s, should be treated cynically and with the view that they specialize in manipulation of both people and situations.
That’s why it is so rare to find a leader that truly cares for and benefits his nation. Some say Putin, Lula da Silva, Julius Nyrere, Gandhi, Paul Ligament, Vajpayee, Zhu en lai and Mandela fit this rare category.
@Anaam,
you imply Trump is not a pompous US Elite even in light of his own recent tax heist for the US rich (at the expense of the public debt clock) and gradually, again, increasing lists of citizen’s without even the most basic health insurance provision.
This free playing radical with his own agenda, translated: the enrichment of the US Elite.
In these circumstances – why do you prefer the US elite to those anywhere else?
@anonymous 5:44am March 25, 2019
To respond to your first paragraph:
A) I never implied that. There are different degrees of elitism amongst the elite (like the disdain so-called ‘old-money’ rentier class ‘pseudo-aristocracy’/feudal parasites have for ‘nouveau-rich’ entrepreneurs and businessmen). Is a lower tier kitschy billionaire businessman like Trump part of the elite, of course he is.
To respond to your last paragraph:
B) I don’t.
Whatever your opinion of Trump, time has already proven one thing: Donald Trump was a far better a choice than that disgusting idiotic murderous snake, Hillary Clinton.
Best regards.
“And she’s unique, she’s neither Christian, nor Jewish nor Muslim nor atheist, she’s a Hindu ”
crypto-Jewish-Hindu, would be my guess.
: )
@_smr
Glad you wrote that: it always helps to understand a poster’s built-in biases in measuring their credibility.
WRT Tulsi Gabbard either being a genuine Hindu or her conversion from Christianity simply being a neutral label attached to her for political purposes (as I have mildly implied), we really can’t know as we can’t get into her heart. However, it is usually not rational to accuse someone of belonging to a made up construct like crypto Hindu-jewish. Such a construct is an oxymoron given that Judaism is zealously iconoclastic (like Wahhabism) whereas Hinduism is very compassionate and accepting of icon or sanctified statues used in worship as a vehicle to reach God or the divine (like Orthodox Christianity or even the Catholic Church with its multiple idols of various Saints with healing powers).
Perhaps a more believable fictitious construct could be a crypto-Catholic-Hindu to Tulsi Gabbard.
:-)
voting when there is no one worth voting for IS doing nothing. those who choose neither war and wall street party are not to blame for the system’s failings. it works as designed.
Oso, not voting is bad for the society. You must vote, you have to spoil the ballot to send real message.
Anonymoose-falling for the ‘democracy’ scam is precisely the antithesis of fighting the oligarchic parasites. It is acquiescing in a complete and utter sham, that absolutely ensures elite rule forever, which, thanks to the elites’ religion of endless, neoplastic, growth on a finite planet, now amounts to a few decades at best.
Fool me once, Shame on you. Fool me twice, Shame on me. Do we not have any shame? If we did, we would stop voting.
US is an oligarchy. There is a 99% majority but a 1% oligarchy (zionists) that control all power. They keep telling us that if the 99% “majority”, “deplorables” “commoners” all vote than the 1% would become irrelevant and the winning candidate would be bound to listen to the majority. In 2016, that is what happened. You had establishment candidate of the 1% (Killary) vs an outsider dark horse (Trump). Trump the anti-establishment drain the swamp candidate won. In the 1st month, they neutered him and he became on the same path and in line with the 1% oligarchy on all things essential except for some few irrelevant matters. So voting is irrelevant even from a secular perspective. And definitely forbidden from a religious perspective. Moses, Jesus, or Muhammad (peace be upon them all) would never vote in today’s system. All of them gave us a blueprint about what to do in our situation. So we should learn to follow their ways instead of wasting time (voting) and playing in their forbidden court.
H
In fact the oligarchy in the US represents less than half of one percent, as 1 % would mean more than 3 million people, and the oligarchy does not have such numbers.
This is an example of how a minority controls the majority. It’s placed in all the chief power centers and it end’s up controlling the country.
I know. That 1% I was using as a figure of speech. I would go even lower than half. Basically a bunch of people (zionists) who are sitting in a room. No matter who gets voted in those dozen of zionists are still there in the (room) from the shadows controlling the country.
They are powerless!
The people never who power anywhere.
What you think was a peoples revolution actually was a banker revolution!
Anonymous
I am highly skeptical about Gabbard. Can she really change anything in the US ? What did Trump change so far, bearing in mind how much he promised ?
I have been reading comments of readers that, ostensibly, she is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations. I don’t know if this is true. If it is, then it means that the Deep State has given her the role of Presidential candidate for 2020, the same role Hillary had in 2016.
That’s easily verifiable.
just check the membership roster on the CFR website
https://www.cfr.org/membership/roster
and click on G for Gabbart, she at the top of the G list.
Govern the Mente
Thank you. I have checked. She is a member. This means she has taken over from Hillary. This also means she is a plant of the Deep State. Another actor.
“Democracy is a cloak for the oligarchy, as it has been since it was first sold to the Greeks. False choices is all we will ever get.”
-What is the alternative?
Anonymous
What is the alternative ? Well, the Deep State in the US better clean up it’s act, because it’s driving the US into ruin, politically, socially and financially. I would not be surprised if the US eventually broke up.
B.F.
I do not like saying this but driving the us into ruin may be the ultimate objective-it would work for them as globalists. How else can one explain this insane push for war, almost everywhere but ultimately with china and russia. there is even talk of fighting a nuclear war and winning. seriously! Or raising the question of whether the us could successfully fight both simultaneously? again, seriously?
Now comes pompeo with this rapturist blather, saying trump is a divine msg’er to save the zionist homeland, israel-seriously?
I will not ever pretend to understand the zionist approach or the deep state if you will but it definitely is outside of what I would define as rational thinking in a world laden with nucs and at risk more and more every day.
Self-respect, Anonymouse. Refusal to play the role of obedient, unquestioning, slave. ‘I am smarty-pants!’.
The alternative to elections is democracy: /on-the-meaning-of-the-word-democracy/
What we, the American people, must do is to build a new political party. There is no other way to gain power. All the previous “third parties” failed for reasons that are not hard to uncover and understand. So we have to be very careful to not repeat any of those mistakes. Here’s my list of mistakes, not in priority because these are like links in a chain, any one failure is fatal. Your list may vary, and I for one, would like to see what you have.
1. Vanguardism, to use a term from the Old Left. We are soooo cool and that’s why we know what to do, and you should just be our followers. Many examples from Berkeley, CA, in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s. One reason why people shy away from simply starting a party and hoping or expecting people to awaken and join are a set of usually unspoken assumptions that the first to join will get privileged positions. That isn’t attractive simply because people understand that does not work.
2. Minority-oriented politics. It’s always a complete failure to expect the majority to vote for the interests of one or several minorities. I think (prove me wrong, if you can and I will thank you), the Peace And Freedom Party of California went down this path, and never came close to winning elections, despite some charismatic leaders.
3. Leaders who can’t withstand hard-core repression. The FBI picked off 51 members of the Black Panther Party. All dead and the Party was toast. H. Ross Perot dropped out of the presidential race in 1992 because, he said, his family had been threatened. The Deep State has always stopped at nothing to keep their power.
4. Opportunism and a Short-Term Timeline. It’s a classical American scam to sucker people into signing on the dotted line by “promising the moon” for $1.99, and delivered within 30 days. The orientation for any sort of political activity is based on the presidential election cycle. So if a Party can’t deliver at the next election, it’s a very uphill struggle to attract people.
5. Treasonous Leaders The Green Party has sometimes picked candidates who publicly stae they will not vote for themselves. The Green Party has almost always subordinated its campaigns to the Democrat Party. The David Cobb campaign was an extreme example, and the belief is that Democrat Party operative got him the nomination by using a stupid rule that made Green voters in Utal have 100 times the power of Green voters in California. The Green Party had what, 150,000 or 250,000 members in California, and the California crowd was penalized for their great success. Sooo stupid, that it’s probably a very good thing the Greens never stood a chance.
Let me propose a modern example of where a party was able to come out of nowhere and achieve great success. It’s the only example I can think of, and the rise of this party is very well documented.
It took about 20 years for this party to achieve its initial goals. That time was needed to create a tremendous grass-roots base, and always working in the face of great difficulties. Few people expected this party to every become successful. This party’s success is based on (1) hard work among both the leadership and the base, (2) having a workable analysis of which tasks to prioritize, (3) keeping the relatively few promises the leadership makes, (4) helping to solve the day-to-day material needs of its followers, (5) having a clearly-enunciated set of ethics … beyond tolerating absolutely no corruption, the leaders are held to high personal standards, (6) enormous energy is focused on developing the next generation of leadership, and (7) enormous energy is focused on making sure the leaders stay alive.
Yes, this party exists, but I hesitate to name it because important swathes of this party’s goals are far from any conceivable American agenda. For instance, it is religiously-oriented although it has strong alliances with parties which are based on other religions. I do not “carry water” for that party or for their agenda. I am simply saying that the history of this party offers some highly useful lessons for any party that has to start from scratch and will face great obstacles. If I mention that the party is based in Beirut, Lebanon, that is easily enough to identify this Party Of God, as it’s called in the local language.
Lessons come from everywhere, if we have an open mind.
Actually, I am beginning to align my thoughts with current trend of demolishing party systems, as party system makes it very easy for the 0.001% to control the society. Simply put, party system offers fewer people to bribe. Cromwell in England and later on French Revolution were really the beginning of a small clique of people who hijacked the society and may have initiated the party system.
Electoral politics is a trap, managed by the gatekeepers for the power elite. It won’t work in this country. The electoral system is neither fair nor transparent. It is corrupt from start to finish.
Also, consider the Populist movement in the 19th century. It started as the Farmers Alliance, grew into the Populist movement, which produced the Populist Party, which then self-destructed by allying itself with the Democratic Party. I have not studied this bit of political history carefully, but in People’s History of the United States, Howard Zinn points out three things that doomed the movement: Failure to unite blacks and whites; failure to unite city workers and country farmers; and, most telling, the lure of electoral politics.
The electoral system needs to be changed first. That would be a sensible first demand accompanying a national strike and elections boycott.
The issue, at its most bare level, is power: how can the people get power and how can they keep it in the long term. If there is ann real alternative to political parties, let’s hear it. … Crickets ? …
The Yellow Vests in France are extremely interesting because they have given up on political parties, and are trying what Solzhenitsyn called “a swarm”. Like the above two comments, he thought that any hierarchy would be captured by elitists or “special interests”. The question is how a swarm can take power in the modern world. Will the Yellow Vests remain “inchoate” or will this progress ? The YV are having monthly meetings, not reported in the MSM and not, even for the alt-news, in English. Gotta run, but more on those meetings later.
MORE INFO ON HOW THE YELLOW VEST MOVEMENT MIGHT EVOLVE
This long extract on the meeting in Commercey, is about all I have for English readers. Yandex-translated from the original, it appears below. The French original is on various sites, including
<a href="https://blogs.mediapart.fr/jean-marc-b/blog/280119/appel-historique-de-lassemblee-des-assemblees-commercy-le-27-janvier-2018"
Also, a book, “Can a Democracy Be Built ?” written by Jean Molliné, which I have not read, so I don’t know if it’s as useful as the title suggests.
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> “The assembly of the Assemblies” of the yellow vests was held in Sorcy-Saint-Martin, near Commercy (Meuse), Saturday, January 26 and Sunday. She just published her appeal. Has to share !
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> CALL OF THE FIRST “ASSEMBLY OF THE ASSEMBLIES” OF THE YELLOW VESTS
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> We, the yellow vests of the roundabout, of the car parks, of the squares, of the Assemblies, of the demonstrations, we are gathered these 26 and 27 January 2019 in “Assembly of the assemblies”, gathering about a hundred delegations, responding to the call of the yellow vests of Commercy.
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> Since November 17, from the smallest village, from the rural world to the largest city, we have risen against this deeply violent, unjust and unbearable society. We won’t let it happen again ! We revolt against high cost of living, precariousness and poverty. We want our loved ones, our families and our children to live in dignity. 26 billionaires own as much as half of humanity, that’s unacceptable. Share the wealth and not poverty ! Let us put an end to social inequalities ! We demand the immediate increase of salaries, social minimas, allowances and pensions, the unconditional right to housing and health, education, free public services and for all.
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> It is for all these rights that we Daily occupy roundtables, that we organize actions, demonstrations and that we debate everywhere. With our yellow vests, we take back the word, we who never have it.
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> And what is the government’s response ? Repression, contempt, denigration. Deaths and thousands of wounded, the massive use of strained weapons that mutilate, debug, injure and traumatize. More than 1,000 people have been arbitrarily sentenced and imprisoned. And now the new so-called “anti-breaker” law aims simply to prevent us from demonstrating. We condemn all violence against demonstrators, whether it comes from the forces of law and order or from violent groups. None of this will stop us ! Protesting is a fundamental right. End of impunity for law enforcement ! Amnesty for all victims of repression !
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> And what a shenanigans that this great national debate which is in fact a communication campaign of the government, which instrumentalizes our wills to debate and decide ! True democracy, we practice it in our assemblies, on our roundabout, it is neither on the TV sets nor in the pseudo round tables organized by Macron.
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> After having insulted us and treated us with less than nothing, now he presents us as a fascist and xenophobic hate mob. But we are the opposite : neither racist, sexist or homophobic, we are proud to be together with our differences to build a society of solidarity.
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> We are strengthened by the diversity of our discussions, at this very moment hundreds of assemblies are elaborating and proposing their own demands. They concern real democracy, social and fiscal justice, working conditions, environmental and climate justice and the end of discrimination. Among the most debated demands and strategic proposals, we find : the eradication of poverty in all its forms, the transformation of institutions (RIC, constituent, end of the privileges of elected representatives…), the ecological transition (fuel poverty, industrial pollution…), equality and the consideration of all people regardless of their nationality (people with disabilities, equality between men and women, end of the abandonment of working-class neighbourhoods, the rural world and the outer seas…).
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> We, yellow vests, invite everyone with his means, to his measure, to join us. We call for the prosecution of acts (act 12 against police violence in police stations, Acts 13, 14…), to continue the occupations of the roundabout and the blockade of the economy, to build a massive strike and renewablefrom February 5. We call for the formation of committees in the workplace, studies and everywhere else so that this strike can be built at the base by the strikers themselves. Let’s get our things together ! Don’t be alone, join us !
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> Let us organise ourselves in a Democratic, autonomous and independent way ! This assembly of assemblies is an important step that allows us to discuss our demands and our means of action. Let us unite to transform society !
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> We suggest that all the yellow vests circulate this call. If, as a group, you agree, send your signature to Commercy (assembleedesassemblees@gmail.com). Do not hesitate to discuss and formulate proposals for the next “Assemblies of the assemblies”, which we are already preparing.
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> Macron Resignation ! Long live the power of the people, for the people and by the people.
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> Call proposed by the Assembly of the Assemblies of Commercy.
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> It will then be proposed for adoption in each of the local assemblies.
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I combed through Le Saker Francophone and found little on the exact topic of where the Yellow Vests see their movement leading. But it did have a link to the book by Molliné and this article about Syria and the Yellow Vests is interesting and somewhat relevant: <a href="http://lesakerfrancophone.fr/de-la-syrie-aux-gilets-jaunes"
You can get it translated from <a href="https://translate.yandex.com/" Yandex Translate is very useful.
Cosimo
Thanks for posting this, Saker.
Although I like Tulsi and want to support her, it’s good to know her past.
I don’t know if she has changed or not. But I do know she is hated by the military industrial complex and no amount of love for Israel she shows will change that.
If she is putting on a show – which I personally doubt – She is very good at it.
She clearly isn’t perfect. She was a military woman, after all. She takes up a lot of partisan positions that aren’t correct. But I do believe she is genuine about preventing future wars, and I believe she is genuine about taking power & money away from the military industrial complex. I will continue to support her for the time being. But I am not so naive as to say simply getting her elected president will change anything. There needs to be an awakening and a spiritual shift in the USA away from imperialism, propaganda, mass murder, killing, and death, accompanied by a massive anti-war and pro-unity (amongst the people) movement to defeat the Neocons.
Military is good, the military is the most patrioic and nationalist segment of society, there is no place you find more anti-globalist than the military.
The military is a parasite feeding off the public host, they prank their own citizens, cant build anything and require supervision even when building a fence. They are littered w/gay members hell bent on spreading their ideology and start wars over not being a like minded companion. They are in short, a scourge on todays society, all this nation needs is a navy for international relief programs and a national guard for domestic situations, the rest is just a bloated parasitic community consuming its host leaving behind debt and liabilities.
Alabama, I am sorry bud, but I agree with anon. With one comment, military being on the payroll makes it mercenary and not a true defending force of the nation/country. Mind you officers have always been on the payroll. Here is an explanation: when I say officers I do not mean it to be what’s generally used in English speaking countries. Explanation: officer in my lingo means lieutenant and up, one who commands a unit of soldiers.
She knows she can’t get anywhere without AIPAC support. It will never change.
“It will never change.” — what every imperial ruler has always wanted their subjects to believe.
Wow. she hits the real issues.
Americans need a strong leadership, But strong leaderships arise only amidst big sudden deep crisis or imminent dangers of no return points.
How about putting an end once&forall to the bizarre indirect and crooked electoral system of the US?
Tulsi Gabbard was military.
Miltary are taught to obey.
A leopard doesn’t change it’s spots.
I knew lots of Vietnam vets in the antiwar protests who would strongly disagree with you.
The alternate thought is of course that the people in the military have seen the real world that never makes it onto American TV screens and they know that they have to change it.
Military is taught to give orders. And feel contempt for the civilian government packed with bureaucrats and oligarchs and their puppets that never risk a hair on their head.
It is in the military you find the most anti-globalists. Infact a military coup might be the most efficent way to get rid of the globalist government.. It is often the civilian government that make insane decision such as attacking Iran and Russia, and the mililtary that refuse to carry it out. Such as when Obama order an attack on Iran or when Trump ordered an attack on Russian forces in Syria after he was ordered to do so by Ivanka.
Smedley Butler is the ultimate counterexample to the anti-military dogma.
He saved our sorry asses from the Fascists, for a time. Now they’re back, ready to pull down the curtain.
Perhaps she’s prepared to pull a Smedley on them.
Yeah, it was “Change You Can Believe In” with Obama, and look what that got everyone. And now it’s “Make America Great Again”, which is a slogan only idiots can believe in.
There are no politicians who are solutions, only more problems. There are in fact, no solutions at all, only more problems. That is the nature of human beings.
Or as I am about to say, we have a short ways to go, but a long time to get there.
What a wicked universe we have to live in.
I have my doubts, mostly because I lost confidence in this “political” system all together.
Obama and Trump also seemed to be better during the campaign then they turned out to be. I think Obama didn’t like Bibi and the Zionist plans. But all he dared to do was withhold the US vote on a (powerless) resolution in the UNSC 3 months before the end of his second term. And the deal with Iran.
Also she is listed as a member of the Council on Foreign relations on their website.
The only way I could get a little bit of hope for the political system to change for the better would be with a candidate that has composed an extensive team of people to fill all important positions. And I means 1000’s of people. From the secretary positions to the judges and directors. Else you wouldn’t stand a chance. But announcing that before hand would probably turn the whole deep state against that candidate.
Elections are about making a choice among and between the names on the ballot. Is Tulsi my ideal candidate? No. Is Bernie my ideal candidate? No. Is Joe Biden my ideal candidate? No, and heck no.
So far, if I was doing ranked voting I’d list 1) Tulsi, 2) Bernie and maybe 3) Warren. But, that’s today. A lot can happen in the next year.
BTW, it is not too late for the Saker community to organize a candidate if they don’t like the choices currently on offer. Just saying.
Note, the reason why Bernie and Warren are behind Tulsi on my ranked voting is because I much prefer Tulsi’s foreign policy positions to there’s. B&E are both high on my ranked voting because the power and money of Wall St and mega-corporations is what lies behind America’s nasty foreign policy and even if Bernie and Elizabeth stink on foreign policy, if they managed to take a bite out of Wall St and the mega-corporations and perhaps let human beings win a round every once in awhile, then that in turn does pull back the driving force behind the war machine.
Bernie is a total fraud – just look at the way he yielded to the Clinton Gang or how he supported Israel in 2006.
Total, total fraud.
Sorry
The Saker
Unfortunately, I would have to agree with the Saker on this.
BTW saw an article this morning on Beto O;Rourke. I have very little information on this candidate so far but he appears to have a presidential demeanor about him.
(House of Cards comes to mind)
Tulsi used to bring tears to my eyes, but I am now deeply concerned how she would hold up once projected into the lion’s den.
Humbly yours,
Barkus is Willing
Not to mention a full blow racist as most democrats, I was vaguely supportive of Bernie until his “white people can’t be be poor” quip.
Seems racism is the core of the democrats today
‘Hugo Chavez is a dead, communist, dictator’-that’s the real Sanders.
I believe this is the exact quote, from The Guardian (Of Zion) newspaper, Sept. 15, 2015:
““Yesterday, one of Hillary Clinton’s most prominent Super PACs attacked our campaign pretty viciously,” said the senator in a statement sent to supporters. “They suggested I’d be friendly with Middle East terrorist organizations, and even tried to link me to a dead communist dictator.”
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/15/bernie-sanders-clinton-super-pac-jeremy-corbyn"
Time reveals all things. In the Summer of 2016, Sanders knew he had been cheated out of the Democrat Party presidential nomination, and he refused to contest the fraud. Some people – not Sanders, as I recall – took this to court and that was very revealing. The DNC, the ruling body of that party, told the court that the DNC had no obligation whatsoever to honor the results of any or every primary election. The court said, approximately, “By golly, you’re right. No obligation whatsoever. Case dismissed.”
Sanders is all used up and in the dumpster. Everyone with half a brain knows this.
I’m waiting to see which fake candidate the people behind the “Democrat” Party will trot out next. Could be Gabbard, could be someone else. Gabbard could be the real thing, but Obama and Trump killed all my hope for any “president” making any change.
Real change? We the people have to do that ourselves, and it’s going to be long, hard work.
Sanders is an empire man all the way. I’ve never heard him mention once closing any oversea US military bases or reigning in the 75,000 special forces roaming around in 125 countries. Sanders always has something bad to say about any “official” US enemy. He’s no socialist. He’s a cold warrior internationally and an FDR-like reformer domestically. He wants to keep the rabble pacified while the empire marches on. He’s disagreed with by Republicans and corporate Democrats who believe there’s no need for pacification when repression is cheaper.
The most fascinating thing to watch over the next year is going to be all of the attacks on Rep. Gabbard. Where they come from will be an interesting learning experience. The fascinating thing about a candidate like this standing up is that it makes a lot of other people declare where they really stand. Everyone should be taking notes and remembering.
Thank you for putting up the videos and raising the question. Because she declared her candidacy “out of the blue’, because she’s military, it is possible she has been recruited by the same USArmy Intelligence, AKA “Q” supposedly working out of the WH, to change the neo-liberal narrative in the DNC primaries, and, if nominated provide an opportunity for Trump2020 to integrate her “peace” platform into his campaign. Her peace meme to go mainstream early in the campaign has the potential to shift the tone of the entire election. Totally agree…..only time will tell.
The problem is, all these politicians are “controlled” by Zion.
The minute you drink the kool aid and fall for their anti-establishment talk, thats it!
Because as soon as they get elected and gets briefed, they switch and start offering excuses why things have to be or remain the way they are.
Trump is a good example.
Zion have both men and women by the “crotch”, and as soon as you elect them the “squeeze” is on.
True Story, google it, if in doubt:
Al Gore, when he was Vice President, made a visit to Israel.
He returned to his hotel room, and was in the process of settling down when he heard some strange noise coming from the ceiling.
A check soon revealed, a Mossad agent comfortably hiding in the ceiling of his hotel room, with all the gadgets needed to film and record his every move in the room.
The situation only caused a momentary distraction in Washington, where everyone is consumed with pretending that Israel is America’s best “ally and friend”.
The fact of the matter is, that person was in the ceiling of Al Gore’s room to document him in a compromising situation, to use against him in the future, but the whole thing as bizzare and serious as it is, was hushed up by the Zionist-controlled stooges in Washington and quietly swept under the carpet.
These are the same stupid stooges who now yap on incessantly about the non-existent Russian interferance in the 2016 US elections.
Muller is mad they say, how can he not find “something” to indict Trump?
Van Jones, said from the outset that the whole thing was a “nothing burger”, yet 2 years later the fools are still talking abut Russian collusion.
In the meantime, Boeing can be selling airplanes with “optional” safety features- depending on what is bought- and nobody bats a eye!!!!!!!
I thought safety features were suppose to be “standerdized” and not “optional”.
This is a huge scandal, yet no one in Washington is talking about it
Everone is busy yapping about the Muller – nothing – Report about nothing!
Tulsi, despite her utterances, is a creature of this system, where everything is controlled by Zion.
A vote for her wont change a damn thing!
Selah
That’s a great story about Gore, and I did parse it:
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/05/11/ex-mossad-chief-calls-newsweek-spy-story-delusional/
The cheesy and very effective methods obviously work on most people.
Here’s another one: Did anyone catch the line, in Al-Jazzera’s the Lobby US, where the guy from TIP says, “we develop relationships… A lot of alcohol to get them to trust us.”
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-film-the-israel-lobby-does-not-want-you-to-see/
The manipulation towards blackmail and coercian is obviously intense.
Then there’s the question of whether any “commander in chief” these days could exercise the power of office if he or she wanted to. Were this to be feasible, the candidate would have to have a team of dozens of completely loyal and solid people. You know, down to the cook.
OTOH, I’ve heard it from someone in DC circles who should know that a lot of Tulsi’s staff work “for free”. The Biden supporters diss her for this and say she has a cult around her, etc. Obviously some of these supporters believe in what they’re doing. If the Biden people don’t like her supporters, that’s probably a good thing.
Me, I support T.G. so far as getting her in the debates to make the others squirm around the topics she discusses. After that, someone would have to have a real team of people who have some kind of balls against the Lobby’s power in the first place, in order to wield any power in hell, i.e. D.C…. I would like to believe TG could possibly do it, but is there evidence of this? So far, no.
She’s up against a lot, no matter what she does, not to mention “relationships… a lot of alcohol to get them to trust us…”, not just for TG, but every human ego around her.
S400, the ‘Russian meddling’ lie is so gargantuan, so Brobdingnagian, so humungous that I can recall no others so huge. Not only has there been no evidence produced that passes the laugh test, but untruths like ‘Russian hacking’ have been thoroughly disproved by experts like Bill Binney and the VIPS, whose report has been confirmed by the usual disinfo campaign to attempt to contravert it. And Assange and Craig Murray have as good as confirmed the leak was not a hack. With that, the whole insane narrative falls apart, but don’t tell any fakestream presstitute-they’ll start screeching ‘Putinbot’, over and over in a fit of auto-echolalia.
‘Autolalia’? Magic Mulga
It`s the same old story: If you want to remain in US politics, you gotta pay the Zionist Piper. When she talks about Islam behind 911, she`s somewhere out in right field, asleep at the switch. Once a pundit gets a taste of the fame and fortune (and the invoices) of any given position, they are a suckling to the system, As their good intentions and policies get erroded by the big money vultures the realization comes that if they are going to stand any chance of realising the ideals they started with,their focus has to be on staying in the race, at whatever cost. Obviously, if they don`t hold the position ,they`ll be resigned to becoming a commentator on some social media platform. It just happened with Alex Ocasio Cortez: in order to stay in the congress she had to say something “nice” about Israel, or face the dumpster of history for a perfectly true (and Kosher) statement. (Well, women aren`t expected to have balls.) So she decided to verbally back Israeli/ USA stance on Syria and Assad “got to go”, she said. The thinking goes that if they can run the gauntlet, all their ideals will be realised once they succeed in attaining the position, when in fact, they assumed the position the day they got knocked on their backs by the Zionazi pimps.
I still like what Trump stood for during the campaign. Alliances are a drain for the US. What are we doing in the ME? Tulsi doesn’t sound one bit better than a Trump when it comes to foreign policy. Yet, we are now to line her over Trump???
The “alliance” that is the biggest drain on US resources is Israel.
Though no one in Washington can dare to utter this fact – for fear of being accused of anti-semetism and being run out of town.
So Trump can cut the $100,000 US AID annual budget for Gabon all he wants, until he reduces or stop the $11M that Israel gets DAILY from US taxpayers, he aint doing jack sh…t!
He tore up the JCPOA, he recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and he moves the US embassy there, and he is now getting ready to recognize Israel seizure of the Golan Heights.
None of these acts were or are demonstrably in US national interests – none!
JCPOA prevented $billions of Iranian dollars from flowing into the US economy – Iran wanted to buy Boeing passenger planes etc, but was prevented.
How does that square with the man who said he want to create American jobs?
Moving the US embassy to Jerusalem isolated the US internationally, and secured the hatred of millions od muslims.
Moving to legitimize Israel’s theft of the Golan, places the US on the opposite side of international law, as stipulated by the UN, and will again secure the hatred of millions of muslims.
How can any of these acts be passed of as being good for the US, or beign in the national interests of the US?
Unless foing Israel’s bidding is in the US national interests, I for one is just not getting it.
He’s not making America “great again”, he is weakning it while making “”Israel Greater”, at the expense of the US..
Selah
S400, none of those acts that you allude to, that signal Trump’s total subservience to the Gods Upon the Earth are in America’s interests, or the world’s, or Israel’s neighbours’ or even, tragi-ironically, in the interests of Israel or Jewry, either. Israel’s true friends would mount an intervention and tell the patient that unless they cease acting like the world’s Masters, and endlessly demanding total subservience as they defaecate over every tenet of the ‘Rules Based International Order’, then they are digging their own, and our, graves.
I guess deep down we all know that eventually, this will, and must end very badly for those who kill the prophets, defile the innocent and defy the Gods.
It has been decreed by the Gods and whispered across the ages that the destruction of their demonic project is guaranteed.
Its just a matter of time.
You and I, might not be around to see it, but rest assured, Zion will fall!
Selah
Mulga,
My thoughts, exactly.
The child, whose parents refused to correct and put in its place when it had daily tantrums at age 3, has now grown up and is a 40 year old adult still living with his parents while terrorising, not only them, but the entire neigbourhood.
A case of wisdom and preventative courage sadly missing in action when needed the most. Now, the whole world is paying as we speak.
BiW
there is nothing to ponder – another zionist puppet
https://twitter.com/TheView/status/1098280827048194048
‘Hope and Change’? ‘Make America Great Again’? How about Bernie, did his thousands of fans know that he is an Israeli dual citizen? Which one of these idiots are really supposed to be the ‘good guys’?
Tulsi has a good sounding rap, but so did Brown Sugar… didn’t he? Has DC done anything at all in reality that, in one way or another, cannot be considered criminal? I’d say that anyone desiring to participate in that political construct deserves to be regarded with reservation. Though more intelligent and educated people may have a different view, this is mine exactly.
The deep state has a lot of talent and money to manufacture these candidates and thus obfuscate and troll the dialog and issues. As Tulsi goes I am skeptical but on the surface like the style.
I’m a total skeptic when it comes to politicians in the US. To me, they all know what to say to become popular, then the duffel bags full of cash start arriving at their homes, and they start loving Israel, “war” (actually terrorism), and they become like all the rest, which is “in it for the money”.
The US political system serves the oligarchy ONLY. Everything they say is strictly theater, or designed to get the oligarchs to give them more bags of cash so they’ll shut up about whatever it is that’s anti-oligarchy.
“… Doing nothing is a vote for giving the ruling oligarchy all the power they want. …”
Au contraire: “voting” in the sham called U.S. “elections” is only giving legitimacy to that 243 year old hoax.
It is a clever “pressure safety valve”, built in the system: after you so innocently “vote”, you get the “feeling” that you have “done” something. Any “rage” you might have had is gone … and … everything stays exactly the same. Just as designed by the gang of corrupt slave-owners in 1776.
And yes: “Evil triumphs when good people stay silent and do nothing” – very much so indeed!
But voluntarily participating in the establishment’s sham is not how a change can be accomplished.
The way out will certainly not be a gradual process.
P.S. the above was in response to the comment /tulsi-gabbard-now-and-then/#comment-627838
gilets jaunes, that is correct. An electoral system is the primary means whereby the economic elite exercise control over the political economy. An electoral system is simply a way to get people who oppose the government to submit to its authority. When one votes one consents to the legitimacy of the power of the victor, however that victory is achieved and regardless of who or what one votes for. As soon as one enters a polling station and signs the voter roll, one has explicitly endorsed the legitimacy of the electoral system itself and therefore consents to abide by its results.
Unfortunately, not voting does not amount to withdrawing consent, thereby challenging the legitimacy of the government. To challenge the legitimacy of the government requires an explicit and public organized rebellion: A massive elections boycott. Think of it like an industrial workers’ strike: What do industrial workers do when they’re fed up with poor or dangerous working conditions, low pay and no voice in company policy? They organize and go on strike. So what should citizens do when they’re fed up with a bloated defense budget and a belligerent foreign policy, lack of jobs, declining living standards, decaying infrastructure, polluted natural environment, unaffordable health care costs, unaccountable politicians, a fraudulent electoral system and no voice in government policy?
We should organize, go on strike and boycott the electoral system. Boycotting elections is not just not voting, just as participating in an industrial workers’ strike is not just not going to work. It’s a conscious, organized defiance of illegitimate and abusive authority.
@ Ann Arquist
Your analysis is absolutely correct.
Here words of Ezra Pound inescapably come to mind: “A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him”.
This is the same old, same old stuff. America has no self respect, so they respect no one. Is this self respect: opioid crisis, mass murder, mass incarceration, obesity, falling longevity, Frankenfoods, endless war, regime change, mass civilian annihilation by atomic bombs on Nagasaki/Hiroshima and on and on and on…..Hopeless!
The alternative press in the US ought to focus on promoting the third party movement and not these various ‘dissidents’ within the Democrats/Republicans. The Democrat/Republican party machines are completely corrupt to the core and must be swept away for there to be any real change inside the USA. Only the triumph of a new party or parties can accomplish that goal.
she supported partioning Iraq I think – only 3 years ago – there’s a youtube available – I’ll try to find it. But its just the same game – if she does get in – which I doubt – she will be another step – just one more – away from annihilation.
I always wonder why people don’t try Rand Paul – I like him – and I think the Libertarians deserve a chance to show what they mean by free market and all the rest – he’s definitely anti-war.
I’m prepared to give gabbard a little slack with her membership in the cfr. Steven Walt, co-author of book The lobby, whch at least intitally, caused the zionists some vapors, is a member and writes frequently for their bugle, foreign policy . He does not seem to spout the standard zionist line, maybe he is just their token but there might be room for gabbard as long as she does not get too far in with the creeps and advocate giving the golan to nitenyahoo, etc.
just saying.
…to feable to be told what to think and say? Just can’t understand it! Very strange.
Where is this famous Anglo-Saxon leadership in North-America? Rather surprising no?
Harfang67
second video: I couldn’t get past the Israel ‘missile facility’ being named after the handy deceased Senator money to Israel changed from loans to grants, quite a distressing talking point after the first seemingly uplifting & promising video, keep voting over there our Yankee cousins but like has to be done in impossible situations, donkey your ballot papers, all the world is a parade……the emperor has no clothes, nor the emperor’s contender, look to the Heavens for your Salvation!!!
Curious to say that an island that is in the middle of the pacific is America, but Argentina , Venezuela, Mexico, are not part of the American continent
You can’t observe any change because she talks about different matters. I could not hear any mention of the single matter that matters in American politics: Israel. She can not without committing instant political suicide. Skepticism is the best attitude. I cannot really pinpoint it, but something does not inspire sympathy either. It’s a gut feeling.
A woman that joined military is a proof of spiritual decay. Her soul is already corrupted by satanic forces/CFR. She cannot be a Joan of Arc. She may be selected by the lords of war to be the president-and you will be told you have elected her- If so she will display trump symptoms in the W. House. Take it or leave it.r
Wow thanks for sharing saker but I wonder what is left to reserve your judgment!
– “The problem is, all these politicians are “controlled” by Zion.”
Zion does not control your heart no my. TG, whoever she is, unites our hearts. That’s a fact.
This is a mistake to think that the goal of her campaign is to get her into White House.
This can be a side effect but not a goal.
The goal is to get people involved and take responsibilities. To get millions of people who can build the campaign, and thousands of brave people who can run the team in White House. To get experts,
academics, and service specialists who are not afraid to endanger their comfort and career and join the movement. This has nothing to do with the top of Dem. party.
And if this happens, her election to WH can have a value.
Believe or not, I don’t believe that the persons on these two movies Saker posted are the same.
I know, sound ridiculous, but I cannot do anything with myself.
More craizily, she even physically different, how can she even be older in 2015 then now?
But again, same or not, this is deeply irrelevant and is a petty question and a noise of my unpure heart.
What is more important in this campaign are we ready for such a leader?
Can people stand for her?
When Chela is ready, the Guru arrives. Is Chela ready?
Here are the things which are inspirational:
Non-self serving is lost the ability to verbally hurt the opponent. Look, she apparently loves her opponents at CNN show. This should give an iron strength.
Non-self serving does not look for guilty and point fingers. That one respects every body and never angry. She does not accuse any one. She only points in direction believed to be right.
Non-self loving person is invulnerable. Such one has no back doors available for attack.
In contrary, self-loving and self-serving feels a lot to lose: look how week Trump looks when he is been smeared, intimidated, and black mailed? How quickly did he lose the ability to fight, betrayed his aim, Michael Flynn, and betrayed his voters?
She is not afraid to speak at CNN. Is this possible to see Trump at CNN show?
She is not a coward. She was not afraid to put her career at risk by meeting Bashar al Assad and by challenging establishment smears. The smears that Assad is a war criminal and dictator.
No body out of US politicians was able to do.
The incredible ability to concentrate on own message and focus on people to which she speaks which results in eloquence which is far ahead of a mere trained speech.
– Other things do hurt me more then her “old views”.
Possible fear of the surrounding people who contact with her for miserable selfish purposes of making hugs or selfies-photos …
She should not ask for help and donations, this hurts her supporters and creates inconfidence. She must state this as a necessity. Guru does not beg for obedience, guru demands this from the Chela. If Guru is for real, the Gury has own responsibility for providing the service, the Chela has own for doing Chela’s part of the job.
At one moment, I saw on her site a clip which remained me the style of traditional ad-like clips of other candidates. This campaign is not about collecting voices, likes on Facebook, or money. This clip did hurt, but it disappeared.
– Finally, this is actually a serious question to her “Where and how will you get your experts and team?” What are your current choices? If it is too early to ask that, well, her ideas on this can give a clue … Can someone ask this question at some of her rallies? Can she put her program on her site?
– Saker and all readers, thank you for this discussion.
Now, I ask you to forget about all I just said. Do your own home work and judgement. Build your own confidence.
Aloha.
Tulsi appears to be genuine and somebody who has integrity: who would dare to meet Assad and speak of the Syrian war as she did? The Dems attacked her viciously as she is not siding with the usual narrative. Like Vanessa Beeley, Eva Bartlett, she dares to go against the mainstream narratives and is heard by Syrian activists. She does stand a chance to change things if she were to be in office, now that some of the draining of the swamp is actually taking place. Maybe it cannot be drained, but at least efforts are made. Who would have thought that the projection game (RussiaGate) where the Shadow is projected onto the “enemy” cold actually be uncovered and indictments can now start to reset some of the imbalance in the US Justice system? Who dares to even speak of making peace or withdrawing troops from war zones?
Luckily I am not American and don’t have to live in that country or vote, but my vote would be Tulsi rather than anybody else I have thus far seen and heard.
I don’t agree Saker, people never change, they only behave differently for some period of time, mostly under some kind of pressure. I don’t think anyone put pressure on her for her recent speech. For the past, see yourself, she is reading from the paper while she speaks freely on the first video.
“I am deeply skeptical and simultaneously deeply sympathetic, but I reserve judgement.”
This is exactly what I was thinking about her before I saw these two speeches. Now I think, she will end up with a bullet in her head if she is about to win the primaries. (They will never risk a second Trump or worse, Putin – see Fillon in France 2 years ago).
Tulsi Gabbard is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/photos-rep-tulsi-gabbard-hosts-council-foreign-relations-briefing-honolulu
Not voting signals submission. Vote for a minority candidate not a lesser evil candidate.
Standard politician stuff. I don’t see any contradiction between the two videos. In one she says she is willing to defend Israel and in the other she says the MIC needs to be brought under control.
In order to get elected President she needs to have as much of the different political groupings on her side. She needs to show that she will look after their interests or at the least not erode them.
Once she wins the primary then we will get a clearer picture of he platform.
Would be interesting to know who and which groups are backing Tulsi within the Democratic party.
I am personally not surprised.
I have always preferred Cynthia McKinney.
There is absolutely no way a single person can change the direction of the country in a way that benefits the American people. No way. The system has to be torn down, dug out by the roots and cast aside. To believe that someone could change course against the currently corrupt Congress, the influence of the Israel lobby, the war machine, the fake news media is ludicrous, all while the majority of Americans gaze at their TV. Nope voting endorses the crimminals from either side. The system is and has been totally and completely corrupted. Tear it down, dig it out and let a new beginning arrive, when we the people feel the real hardship, and by hardship I refer to the horrendous living conditions in Syria, Yemen and Palastine then possibly good will follow. Tulsi may be sincere but would be useless in this current fake democracy. There is no other way.
Your judgement is already made!
Your popular blog has solidified your words, and no amount of weaseling can mitigate your pronouncement.
The correctness of your judgement and how you use our judgement will mark your place in history.
Keep writing.
Tulsi Gabbard served overseas twice, the second time, resigning her comfortable political office to serve with her platoon.
She resigned her cochairmanship of the DNC when she discovered they were busy railroading Bernie Sanders.
She then endorsed Bernie Sanders.
In preelection 2016, this would be considered political suicide.
In my book, it tells me this is someone with a moral compass.
Gabbard is extremely unpopular with the military industrial complex because she wants to stop decades-long ‘police actions’ costing the tax payers trillions of dollars.
It is for this reason one hardly ever hears about her campaign in the corporate-owned media news, and is why she is extremely popular with many independent voters and progressives, as will be discovered when actual voting begins.
We have to keep in mind that she doesn’t stand a chance without support of certain groups. This is one of them. My hope is that she is using groups like this to gain support/election and will do the right thing when in power.
You have every reason to be skeptical Mr. Saker. Right wing ‘Christians’ for Israel? Member of the CFR? The woman couldn’t take the heat from the women of The View and said there is no doubt Assad is a tyrant who gassed his own people! She will be more of the same.
Nothing can be fixed in D.C., the home of the beast. All the states need to separate from Washington and govern independently. And that probably isn’t going to happen because they are all infiltrated by the parasite affecting D.C.
In my private fantasy about my dream anti-Zionist candidate, said candidate would court the Zionist powers that be for a number of years, and in the midst of speculations about his/her ambitions to enter the Presidential sweepstakes, agree to speak at AIPAC, and right then and there, in front of the assembled high-rollers and lobbyists, declare her/his intention to spearhead a Presidential campaign aimed at rooting out their undue influence over US foreign policy and incessant warmongering, calling these out as obscene and tyrannical … until they cut the mic.
Realistically, we’re not there yet. Like Tucker, Tulsi can calls out the neocons and neolibs, but avoids criticizing Israel directly. At least she has announced that she, like several other Democratic contenders, will not be speaking at AIPAC. She calls to end the sickening regime change wars (including Venezuela and Iran) and is a lone voice among Democrats criticizing not only the corrosiveness of the Russia obsession domestically but the extreme dangers of promoting increased tensions with the other atomic weapons superpower, evaluating these risks as higher than ever before. (Even if she is sometimes swept up in the mass-hysteria votes like the 2017 resolution denying Trump the ability to reduce any sanctions on Russia without congressional approval.)
And we should observe that the Israeli lobby essentially has declared her an enemy for reason of these stands of hers.
No, we shouldn’t be complacent about the compromises she has been forced by circumstances to make or voluntarily acceded to.
But there is one thing to be done now to address the latter (other than the cardboard-cartooni stubbornness over her mere membership in the CFR – like other decent people like Lucy Komisar. And that one thing is, we can donate to Sen. Mike Gravel, to ensure him a place on the debate stage, in position to outflank Tulsi in opposition to the Empire – and thereby open wider the window for change that a Tulsi movement potentially represents.
Has anyone checked Gabbard’s actual voting record in congress?
Has she voted for or against the sanctions bills there attacking countries such as Venezuela, Syria, Cuba, N. Korea, Russia, etc.? These sanctions are economic warfare, in some cases every bit as deadly to the victim’s populations as conventional military attacks are.
Gabbard accepts and promotes the zionazi-gay propaganda lines about Venezuela, Syria, Russia, etc. She engages in the demonising of those the zpc/nwo is currently attacking and setting up for later aggression. That’s halfway there to actually supporting the war planning. If she is supporting the non military aspects of these zionazi-gay aggressions (sanctions, asset freezing/stealing, etc.), that is almost all the way there to supporting outright invasions, like in Syria and Libya.
Her purveying the zionazi-gay demonization psywar has another negative factor that undermines her whole supposed opposition to these zpc/nwo aggressions. It removes the real reason to be opposed to the aggressions from discussion. IE: “yes Assad is a bad guy, but is invading Syria our best option to take him out”? That sort of oblique nonsense used to further zpc/nwo policies on the sly.
If she actually debunked the lies propaganda, it would indicate a real opposition to the zionazis, but she doesn’t. She follows the usual mealy mouthed routine instead. Nobody who promoted the zpc/nwo narrative and then claimed to oppose their aggressive policies ever delivered on their words in pindo politics that I have seen over the last 40-50 years.
To be effective, and real, one has to oppose both the narrative (psywar) and the policies.
I have not even touched upon her subservience to zionazi power, or her possible Islamophobia. There is also a very curious development about the way the pindo likud dominated “conservative” talk radio critters (limbaugh, levin, etc.) cover her. IE: they don’t mention Gabbard at all. At least during the times I’ve heard this freakshow shrieking and pontificating.
I got the impression you used to think she was for real.
Is this a change of mind following some research into her, or did I misunderstand your previous posts about her?
Can’t remember any specific one, but I did have a general impression you had some regard fro her.
E
Initially I thought she was a refreshing change from the usual pindo political rubbish. Did have a few reservations, though. Later, further inquiry into her views expressed put me in the doubter camp.
When it comes to politicians these days, it’s hard to be in any other camp….:)
I don’t know in detail her voting record on sanctions bills against various targets of the Empire. As far as I know she has run with the herd at least when it comes to the most lopsided votes in Congress, such as the one denying the President authority to ameliorate sanctions against Russia without the express consent of the Congress (summer 2017).
However, in her wide-ranging interview with New Hampshire Public Radio this weekend, she has some critical things to say about sanctions in general and sanctions on Syria, describing her meeting with female small businesspeople in Aleppo, who were forced to try to rebuild their destroyed sewing business on a cash only basis as a result of not being able to open bank accounts in Lebanon. She also pointed out that these sanctions were making it more difficult for Syria to begin the road to recovery.
Furthermore, she seemed to say that she was working on legislation that would narrowly define the objectives of sanctions on countries and individuals, and create conditions for their lifting. That’s not as far as I would want to go, but this is the first movement of any kind I have heard of in Congress (1) against sanctions that only have the effect of making life difficult for people in countries whose welfare “we” are allegedly concerned with and (2) and modifying the arbitrary and completely-without-due-process sanctions against individuals (e.g. the Magnitsky act).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UID66rk24do
Saker,
I glance at the comments and find it curious that few people speak of a third party.
There seems to be a consensus that a third party is not realistic.
I suspect the vast majority of Americans are desperate for someone outside the 2 parties.
I suspect that applies to much of Europe (I am curious what Europeans feel about this).
I have not seen mass media since the days of OJ Simpson and Tanya Harding.
I may be one of the few who has yet to see 5 seconds of Trump in my life.
I have seen only slices of the Clintons, Bushes, and Obama.
My instincts told me candidates are “selected” and we get to vote for a lesser evil.
My instincts told me that not one President since Johnson acted on his campaign promises.
A few of them turned out to be polar opposites.
I can wait to see the actions of the winner to see if my instincts were correct.
In New Mexico, the local media reflects national media and we all know what that means.
Independents are not allowed to vote in the primaries.
In the general election, I vote with an absentee ballot.
Since 2008, I have decided not to vote for a Democrat or Republican.
I agree that Tulsi Gabbart is an attractive candidate.
I may even send a donation just to give her an opportunity to be a candidate in the debates.
But she made a decision long ago to work within the Democratic Party.
One interpretation of that choice is that she has no confidence in the American people or the electoral process.
This next election, I am determined to totally ignore everything connected to the election
in the context of “the echo chamber” of Mass Media.
Like the last election, People like Caitlin Johnson and CJ Hopkins can provide comic relief.
MS
Santa Fe, NM
There is no third party, third way. Coalition government, perhaps, with a group of small parties, maybe, but even that will still provide little more that comic relief. Extra parties more than not just split the vote. Disenfranchised myoptic, cynical people, I’ll stop labeling , cause I’m in one or two of those groups, just don’t vote, just don’t care………the joke, sick as it is……….ain’t on us. Like voting ever saved anyone from dying on a front line, hangin from a backyard tree, in Tennasse or slowly in a most unhuman, inhumane way…………..starving to death for a chance at democray!
This is concerning but I would not rule her out on this. It is reasonable to assume that – as a young congresswoman – she was told that this was “necessary.”
That type of stuff happens.
On the other hand, she is now openly making statements which are considered “crimethink” by the corporate media. She is letting the American people know that it was America – not Iran – who funded ISIS. She is letting people know the these wars have harmed – not benefitted – the peoples of the countries we have invaded. Across the board, she is telling the truth that our dishonest media has been hiding.
I think it is worth noting that in her appearance before the right-wing Christian group Gabbard did not show much enthusiasm about the cause of Israel and the audience seemed to me to be disappointed. She was scripted and tentative.
Well, if she is in the race for the presidency, and we know about her enough to be discussing her, then…
The very fact that she is on the radar, for any discernibly positive “branding” makes the likelihood of her not already being owned very slim-to-none, right out of the box.
The four leading nominees, two top republicans, two top democrats, are given the minimum possible amount to get their guarantee for the basic minimum the lobby requires from any elected politician.
They already have (99%+ cases) whoever wins, but they increase their stake, the minimum amount, to get their next tier of requirements, and where psychological profiling results and favorable and with high confidence, more guarantees of supporting more radical ‘initiatives‘.
So, even if an exception gets through in the nomination round, their opponent will get double the usual (no split), plus what ever it takes to make sure anyone who isn’t a confirmed ‘friendly‘ will have a chance to get in.
Summary, 99%+ of the sitting representatives, across the entire spectrum of governments/institutional agencies subject to the electoral process, are already ‘acquired‘
It seems the democrats are employing a strategy to covering the spectrum, and will monitor and adjust support on an active, ongoing basis, up to and including during the primaries.
Right now, it looks like the lobby’s man is Beto O’Rourke, but Tulsi is a very compelling running mate, filling in many of the things that the ‘colour revolutionaries‘… will find flaw with Beto.
Prediction: 2019 March 24: Beto O’Rourke – Tulsi Gabbard dem ticket 2020
Unfortunately, there seems very little probability for a successful change of the system from within the existing system; the level of hysterical neurotic control is too complete; a real reformer would be assasinated, before being allowed to progress within the current actual system.
Beware, Tulsi is an elite CFR member: https://swprs.org/the-american-empire-and-its-media/
That means nothing. I was once a member of the CFR, totally innocent and stupid. Just subscribing to the magazine, as I once did, made me a member. All of these many organizations are compartmentalized, with only the select top leaders knowing the real agenda. As an example, the bottom 95% or more of Freemasons, such as my Father in Law, know nothing of the Sabbatean/Frankist Satanic agenda at the very, very top. He thought it was about “doing good in the world”.
She is good insofar as she prevents a worse one for the post. Although biased because she is Indian, I found little strength in her voice and personality and f”by and for the people are worn out clichés.
In 2015 her skin was clear and smooth.
In 2018 she is severely acne-scarred.
That can be caused by PCOS ( Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome ) which is often brought on by stress.
Time alone certainly can account for the drastic change in complexion.
Yes Eimar, I noticed the same thing, which made my previous comment of her looking *stunning” rather inaccurate. Whether PCOS or not, stress can definitely cause this as well dioxin poisoning.
It is very strange to see this physical degradation.
if … if she gets elected a status quo will be maintained. things will remain as they are neither better or worse. maybe some African or South American country might need urgent democratizing.
On the other hand i also feel that it is the last chance that the gods are offering the US. If she ends up like the guys before that will be the end of us as a country or worse I am sure of it
I like Tulsi. I think she reflects a refreshing change in politics. Her and Omar and Cortez represent the more coherent challenge to the DNC leadership that I can remember. But the Democratic Party is a corporate party that is pro war, pro imperialism, and is now actively attacking the working class.
She doesn’t stand a chance.
The US political system is not capable of reform.
To the Beto cheerleading squad:
O’Rourke has a DUI conviction and a burglary charge that was mysteriously disappeared. That may work for Bush family members but…Beto? Dunno.
Yeah, Beto come from politicos, but not at the same level as the Bush clan. And while Beto [& his boyfans] is/are clearly delusional enough to believe that won’t be examined in a Presidential Race, I find that likelihood akin to a snowball’s chance in hell. Just saying
If she’s CFR she’s with the dark force. Biggest question when discussing presidents, where did they graduate from? Weird thing is all US preidents are Harvard grads……………kinda like a debutante ball……………….if only they had some. Balls that is……….watch for the ‘black eye’ when that appears you will have your answer.
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“Weird thing is all US preidents are Harvard grads”
Here’s a list of current or former US presidents who went to Harvard University.
John Adams.
John Quincy Adams.
Rutherford B. Hayes (Law School)
Theodore Roosevelt.
Franklin D. Roosevelt.
John F. Kennedy.
George W. Bush (Business School)
Barack Obama (Law School)
Further info about what colleges pindo presidents attended:
Colleges and Universities Attended by the Presidents
https://www.presidentsusa.net/collegelisting.html
I am corrected………blinded by my disdane for all US presidents…..
This link may be good to help T.G. or get more info:
https://www.presidenttulsigabbard.org/
It took me a while to find it. A good thing to build a movement. Where are these academics and experts she relies upon and where is the facts stack articles which deepen and support her position? These must be on her flag sites. Where is her forum? It should not be only this blog.