Saker comment: I would have preferred a “Nay” from her, but her “Present” is at least more courageous than what the rest of the Dems did. I disagree with her vote, but at least I don’t feel that she has betrayed her oath to the US Constitution or that she betrayed her country – which is what I accuse the Dems of doing. I forced myself to listen to some of the speeches on the floor of the House yesterday and I have to say that what I heard was the most disgusting and revolting lies, misrepresentations, obfuscations, hypocritical condemnations, etc. that I ever heard in my life. It is my opinion that every person who voted “Yea” is a spineless traitor and should be treated as such. As for the Democratic Party, I see it as the #1 threat to the survival of the USA. Yes, I do want the AngloZionist Empire to collapse and wither away, but I wish the country USA (as opposed to the Empire) well and I look forward to the day when the US will become a “regular” country like all the other former empires have become.
What is taking place is a slow-motion coup d’état by one faction of the ruling elites against another one. We don’t have to side with either faction, but it is important to denounce this illegal, immoral and illegitimate coup for what it is. Now Pelosi is not committing to pass on the articles of impeachment to the Senate. I wonder if she, or the rest of them, have ANY sense of shame at all… (rhetorical question, we all know the answer, don’t we?)
Who cares about that USA circus …
this is not a helpful comment, please refrain from posting if you have nothing to say.
Thank you!
Who cares? you should.
Why? coz the circus master may just bring ‘freedom’ to your land and to you home.
I think thats why many are still here trying to get a better understanding of this circus,
and if possible, make a move to stop or discourage their circus.
Pretty good reason – esp for those who want to live outside the circus.
Dear Bosnian Croat, I suppose you are not a bot ( either human or mechanical), so I decided to reply to you as well.
I think every one should care about what is happening in USA. For so many reasons indeed. The political leadership of USA and the healthy of their “democracy” is important because first of all, it is the home of over 300 M human beings. The political leadership of this country can wipe out the life in this planet if it does act erratically and irresponsibly. I don’t want to jump in details, Saker and the other friends already do an amazing job presenting all the relevant details in the blog.
As Saker, I would have preferred a NAY from Tulsi, followed by a contender discourse point the truth. She could have done that, but sincerely the choose stand out, maybe to save her candidacy to presidency or whatever reason… she just took the minimum saving face path. I think it is plenty of reasons to impeach Trump, and i felt disgusted hearing the speeches, because no one pointed a single true reason for impeach him, just lies, “pro” and “con” lies. The real chance of getting an open dictatorial regime in USA starts now…
Making presumptions about why Tulsi Gabbard voted neither yay nor nay (present aka abstain), does not make sense. Why not take her for her word as to her reasons: she said she did not vote nay because she believed that Trump has acted improperly (on many fronts) and especially in the case of Ukraine. However, at the same time she states, his actions do not, on the face of it, meeting the bar to be impeachable, which is why she didn’t vote aye either. Her position is quite rational and defendable. On the second point she is right, it is absolutely insane for the Democratic Party set the dangerous precedent of permanently cuckolding the institute of the President by allowing impeachment on such a low bar and in violation of the US Constitution and laws regarding impeachment.
Regarding her first point, ie not voting against impeachment, Tulsi stated that she she believed that Trump has behaved improperly and he has (yes trump’s behavior in being selective about ‘caring’ about corruption in US allies shows that his actions were not based on principles but personal political considerations; trump has ignored corruption in many US allies that have received US benefits (whether direct aid or military protection) such as Saudi Arabia (his defense of the Kingdom was openly bereft of morality or respect for rule of law or being against corruption and shamelessly about the $billions they spend on on overpriced US military hardware), Israel (Netanyahu is officially charged with corruption), Turkey, Poland (a cesspool of corruption), Bulgaria (ditto), Romania (ditto), and etc.
The only country where he tied US benefits to cleaning up corruption was the one country that was involved with his personal political fate and undermining his 2016 election: Ukraine. That and Ukraine’s criminal establishment assistance in helping the Clinton campaign and the Democratic party’s in manufacturing dirt against Trump’s campaign were the main impetus in Trump pretending to be concerned about general corruption in Ukraine when his real issue is what they had done against him and in favor of the Democrats. On principle what Trump wanted is correct but they way he went about it was crude, bungling and improper.
Let’s not forget Trump openly practices nepotism by officially making his daughter and son in law part of the policy making machinery of his administration, its a bit rich for him to make a stink about Biden’s nepotism on ‘moral’ grounds. With respect to his position towards Ukraine and his call to Zelensky, his request was not based on the interests of US taxpayers as he claimed, but instead it was motivated by his own personal (even if justifiable) interests and grievances.
In any case all of this is a charade, those opposed to Trump in the MSM and the US deep state give their useful idiot followers the illusion they’re doing something about Trump, while simultaneously many of those supporting Trump have a similarly cynical role with Trumps base. Meanwhile Trump gets a pass for supplying tank killing weapons that will be used on civilians in eastern Ukraine, Trump’s shielding of Likuds behavior in Syria gets a pass, and his behavior against Iran and a signed deal with them gets a pass and his bald faced blackmailing and threats against Nordstream 2 customers of Russia (in violation of international trade laws and agreements the US has signed up to) gets a pass and his destruction of the Intermediate Ballistic Missile Treaty gets a pass, and, etc. and etc.. Yet, thanks to the Hegelian dialectic imposed on us, he’s the least bad alternative we told.
What a screwed up world, which is why I am sick of politics and geopolitics and increasing extricating myself from it. The only thing that will reduce this abuse (not eliminate it) is the rise of the multipolar framework of Russia, India, ASEAN, China, Latin America and the United States in a balance of terror with each other (I omitted the EU because they’re too corrupt and flaccid to ever matter).
So here we have a woman, wanting to be President That can or will not make such a simple decision. The problem with abstaining is that others will make the decision for you. Is this what you want for your President? For others to make the decisions for them?
In this case of impeachment the decision is simple, she has already made it. If she believes “she states, his actions do not, on the face of it, meeting the bar to be impeachable” then in all moral conscientiousness you have to vote no. Anything else is an abdication of responsibility and therefore not fit as Presidential material.
Hi BobHNZ,
Regarding your statement:
“If she believes “she states, his actions do not, on the face of it, meeting the bar to be impeachable” then in all moral conscientiousness you have to vote no.”
No Bob, in all moral conscientiousness you do not have to vote no: maybe on legal grounds you should, but, not on moral grounds, particularly if you’re not certain about the defendants innocence or credibility: the alleged culprit, Trump, has a very dirty record of lying, personal wheeling and dealing, open ethical and legal lapses (Jared kushner, unqualified son in law in charge of handling a global flashpoint, his track record as a private citizen where his company, under his direct management, was unequivocally found guilty of violating peoples fundamental rights, Trump killing innocent people in Syria in an unnecessary cruise missile attack because his daughter cried on his shoulder about fake pictures of children gassed to death in Syria that she claimed were real, boasting about sending tank-killing weapons to a state he himself calls an extremely corrupt mafia state -Ukraine, etc.) and Etc. Given the morally bankrupt and potential criminal history of Trumps actions, her position is thoroughly defendable on moral and logical grounds.
Please note, I am no fan of Tulsi Gabbard because I suspect she is an artificial construct produced by the same system that produced the suave and polished Barack Obama (right down to their common internship within Hawaii, a station which is training ground for intelligence operatives for the US, Russia, Taiwan, Japan and China), both her parents are politically connected within both the Democratic and Republican parties. Remember how Obama made all kinds of anti war statements prior to being elected president? Then he proceeded with the “war as usual” MO the second he entered the white House, just as any employee of and pretendant to the US establishment has done. What I’m defending is her position and her actions so far, and not her (the truth is that if my suspicions are unfounded, it would be wrong of me to criticize her, to date, good actions***).
Also, let me restate (as I have in the past) that my position on Trump is …that he infinitely better than than his hateful, vicious, incompetent and criminal presidential opponent, Hillary Clinton. At least Trump falls within the norm of being “human”, flawed , but still “human” and is not a sadistic hateful ruthless evil psychopath like the rape shielding, associate-assassinating, pay-for-play Hillary Clinton.
*** good actions by Tulsi include:
-destroying the political career of evil sell out kamal Harris by pointing out she tried to suppress evidence that would had exonerate a man on death row, how she sent so many poor individuals to jail just for minor marijuana use, while Kamala herself boasted on radio, the she would smoke up herself.
– Gabbard’s in your face humiliation of Hillary Clinton as a war mongerer and shill,
– her courageous meeting with the secular President of Syria, Assad, etc.
Whether these actions were sincere or part of building an image campaign, time will tell, but nonetheless they were good actions.
The point is that it is her job to make a judgement. The only time a non vote should be made is if she has a conflict of interest.
Her job is to judge whether the two articles are impeachable offences and the judgement is to be made on the evidence given, not on other aspects of Trumps Presidency.
Whether Trump is a good President over all has no bearing on the case and shouldnt be considered.
To not vote is a big fail of her duty. Means she is wasting space being there.
I disagree, as she clearly states, she doesn’t feel he meets the test for impeachment, but given his sloppy and ambiguous wording during the zelensky call, he rendered the situation open to interpretation and turned into a subjective affair from what should have been an open and shut objective affair where a clear yes or no would have been the only appropriate vote. Unfortunately, thanks to Trump’s bungled wording during the call, it imposes a doubt that makes it appropriate for her to vote abstain (ie present), ie we are left uncertain because of the ambiguity of his words.
If these decisions are too difficult for Tulsi Gabbard to make, then who is going to decide….? And they have.
This may look like a judgement, it’s sold to you like a judgement but…
This is NOT the judiciary system. This is not a judgement!
It is a political trial!
Rethink
I agree with you, BC, but still, you should have elaborated your point.
So, I will have to do it for you:))
I stopped following US “politics” almost ten years ago, basically because it is predictable. Since 2008 bubble crisis, they chose a path that will lead to the destruction of their country, and now, that process is irreversible. It is beyond fixing. They are right now in the business of postponing the inevitable-crash of the dollar as the reserve currency, and it’s mind-boggling consequences.
So, there cannot be any systemic change in the US, that will make things better. It’s downhill all the way…
So whatever Tulsi says (or whoever from the mainstream US politics), it’s irrelevant. It’s just damage control, created to kick the can down the road some more.
Поздрав!
Everybody please calm down, really no need to lecture anybody or make point of something we all know very well. That is exactly what the empire wants us to do – to fight between ourselves for some perceived.
BC is not a troll and not a bot. His comment was pure sarcasm. His country (mine too) has suffered a great deal from the empire. No need to be patronizing or hostile. He, and I, we know very well about what the empire is capable of, we lived through that and felt it ourselves. being a Bosnian Croat and against the empire, it takes courage and should be respected, even more courage to say it openly. I do respect him for that and his contributions to the forum.
Best regards to all
Oprosti im zemljace, oni to ne razumeju, a zele dobro svima.
Totally agree with you Bosnian Serb. Reaction to Bosnian Croat’s comment was a bit too harsh.
This is going nowhere as its nothing more then a family squabble between the billionaires who control the two parties,there’s never been any doubt that Clinton threw the election due to her failure to campaign in the three to close to call states that she had to have, or the fact that if they had wanted her to win they would have flipped enough votes to have put her in the win column in those states.What they wanted was to kill the social aspects of the democratic party which they fear the most, they don’t really want to see what’s going on in France where the people have rose up against its government happening here.I was reading where Buffet,Gates and the good ole boys club had a meeting, the topic was the worlds population and how to decrease it, rather than how to clean up the mess they have created in their own country, the homeless camps the 50 million and counting of those living in poverty.!!!
I hope they were considering subsidized birth control as the 1st and most productive way( the 2nd being education) to decrease the population as you say.
They were Melinda Gate spent millions funding birth control pills to go along with their wars to kill and move populations from one country to another,Germany is a good example of that as the Germans will cease to be a race and become a minority in their own country,France and England are going down the same path while the whites are crying a river of tears as they too will become a minority in their own countries.!!!
Germany was conquered in 1945. The Empire will do what it wants to do to that country.
Germans Lost WW2
Nazi’s Won ( BUSH-ANZ/Rockefeller/Rothschild )
Tulsi rationalizes, like a dim-wit she is. I have never been impressed with her thought process.
She is against wars but regales in her service in the combat zones of Iraq and relishes her continuing attachment to the volunteer-contractor military of the Hegemon.
She says she stood in the center of right and wrong. There is no center.
Jesus said He would vomit out the lukewarm.
People who claim the righteous middle of Evil versus Truth make me want to puke, and I don’t claim any divinity in saying that.
She has one quality, physical attractiveness. All the rest of her qualities are projections of the viewer or supporter.
She will never do the right thing. She says she’s stepping down from the Congress. Yet she protects her status as a Dem in this travesty of impeachment.
Trump did nothing wrong. Nada. We have the record as fact. We have the Ukies’ version which is exactly in line with Trump’s. Nothing done wrong.
What happened was the machinations of Hillary, the Dems, the CIA, State Dept, the Bidens and all the corruption in Ukraine was being surfaced by Trump and Rudy and that was the sin. Billions of dollars, phony dossiers, Russophobia, the whole ball of wax was exposed, facts were undeniable and Trump wanted it exposed for all to see.
If Tulsi can’t understand that, she should retire and go home.
She’s an empty head and a very weak candidate for leadership of any organization, much less the USA.
As for spine, she has no spine to stand and vote the facts which required a No on impeachment.
Her words in the video are COVER FOR HER butt.
She failed the first real test of character as a candidate. I don’t need to hear anything more about her.
Disagree about Trump having done no wrong. He’s committed his own set of Imperial Crimes like all the previous POTUS going back to Truman. It’s just the Ds didn’t draw up articles of impeachment that included those crimes.
As for Gabbard, I asked her about her oath and the Constitution in a letter to her back in January, and asked her why she chose to obey what was clearly an illegal order to deploy to Iraq. I never got an answer. The points in question being the Constitution’s Supremacy Clause and the UN Charter, the latter which was incorporated into the US Constitution when the Senate ratified it in 1945 and thus rendered every imperialistic activity undertaken by the USA unconstitutional and thus illegal–thus Outlaw US Empire.
What kind of impeachment is based on “He did some wrongs”?
He didn’t do anything these buttclowns have contrived. In fact, most of them are Russophobes and they are trying to cover up the crimes of the Ukies+Dems+Bidens+State Dept.+CIA who have blamed Wikileaks, Assange, Putin, the Russians, General Flynn, Paul Manafort, et al for the crimes they committed.
You don’t get it. Focus on the action of Impeachment. Nothing charged in their impeachment indictment is a crime identified in the Constitution as classification for Impeachment. You might not like his Tweets, his hair style, his orange coloring, his NY accent, his love of Bibi, etc. But you can’t construct an Impeachable offense out of this or any Presidential order he has given.
He could carpet bomb Tehran and it wouldn’t be impeachable if he followed the legal process the US has for making war. His ‘crimes’ are character crimes like cheating on Melania, not backing General Flynn, caving in to the Jewish lobby, fear of firing Comey and then blaming AG Jeff Sessions for Comey getting the Mueller investigation going. He is festooned with character flaws. None of them are Impeachable.
Tulsi was fairly young when she volunteered to serve in Iraq. There were a lot of Americans who were taken in by the lies that Saddam Hussein’s intelligence chief met with Mohammed Atta in Iraq and so much other propaganda that insinuated that there was a connection between 9/11 and the Iraq war. I remember sitting down to dinner with friends months before the second Iraq war started and many people believed there was undisclosed intelligence connecting Iraq to 9/11 even if the WMD’s were just a pretext.
For those who don’t reside in America it can be hard to explain just how much lying and deception there is to generate public support for America’s foreign policy aims. Propaganda abounds and just as important, key facts are often systematically omitted. For instance, the “truth” of Russian meddling is often treated as self-evident in the media and in testimony by authoritative voices speaking before Congress. Assad and Kaddafi’s genocidal intentions are presumed to be self-evident, as are those of the Iranian regime. Just try explaining that America sponsored a coup that overthrew a democratically elected regime in Ukraine to most people. The notion that America wages an aggressive foreign policy or that it’s strange that America has fought so many wars when it has been so infrequently attacked is treated as completely naive in most “serious” political discourse.
You can’t blame most Americans for being fooled by the systematic deception promoted by our media and political class.
Dick Cheney fed that line of bull almost immediately that Saddam was behind the 9-11 attack. You have to be deeply impaired mentally to believe this Wyoming liar. He had a long career of deception and mendacity. There was a complete psych-propaganda operation that went into motion the instant the second plane hit.
To say young people old enough to carry a gun, launch a grenade or rocket, fly an attack plane or helo gunship were innocents in the Middle East is ridiculous. They went to kill people. And kill they did. The count is like 700,000. Were any of these Iraqis involved with 9-11?
But the killing continues. Just like the Afghan war. Kill them and kill them and kill them because Cheney and Rumsfeld and W said so.
Spare me this stupidity. Please. The US has been wrong since June 25, 1950, the Korean War.
Several millions of human beings who couldn’t find the USA on a map of the world are dead and many millions more are disabled by US warmongering around the globe.
We have psychopaths operating our military and Intel services and paying for proxies and terrorists all over the globe. To go serve with them is a willful act of ignorance and provides no excuse. You can’t get peace and democracy by bombing and strafing civilians. You are not securing the USA by drone striking targets on a list in the oval office.
Tulsi is low IQ if she is trying to sell that argument to voters.
The US has not fought a war since WWII that had any true legal, moral and ethical basis of national defense. Korea which had the blessing of the young UN really was set up by the US post-WWII geopolitical machinations that was using Japan (whitewashed of its war crimes and gifted with administration over Chinese islands and protected by US bases) and South Korea as soft targets.
Note that the Chinese civil war ended with the Communists winning in 1949 and immediately North Korea was our target for war one year later. Ever since we have created wars all around the periphery of China and the USSR/RF. Count them if you will.
The same thing is going on today. The US is hell-bent to disrupt and destroy Eurasian Integration and the BRI.
The US has a simple military formula for fools like Tulsi. US special forces and national guard units on the ground, then contractors from CIA and PMCs, then Islamic terrorist proxy militias and you have a long war.
It’s going on in Africa and Central Asia and SouthAsia, and they are trying hard in East Asia and SE Asia with the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia.
Plenty of wars, all of them long wars, lots of US Flag-waving for Tulsi and the volunteer military.
Black budgets for the bridgehead operations and then Trillions for the MIC.
Wave your flag at that!
“was a complete psych-propaganda operation that went into motion the instant the second plane hit” Actually, before the f i r s t plane hit.
“You can’t blame most Americans for being fooled by the systematic deception promoted by our media and political class.”
Actually, we can. Americans claim exceptional rights to destroy the world and at the same time claim innocence from ignorance of the consequences.
The hypocracy is unprecedented.
You didn’t read what I wrote–” the Ds didn’t draw up articles of impeachment that included those crimes.” Please try again. The big key: For Trump to face proper articles of impeachment, the D-Party would need to unveil the fact that the USA has been in violation of its own Constitution since October 1945 since the UN Charter is by way of the Supremacy Clause incorporated 100% into the Law of the Land. That’s the ultimate scandal that can never be revealed to see the light of day, but nonetheless still exists for anyone with the ability to read and reason–like the Russians, Chinese and other folk around the world.
Wilson did the Empire’s bidding after they installed him by signing the Federal Reserve Act and the income tax to finance WW1.
I agree. It is almost as if she is playing at being a ‘goody two-shoes’ – as if she is playing a part.
Yes I agree she comes across as too good to true, but it’s clear a lot peoples hatred of her not based on that kind of reasoning but rather jealousy and resentment.
Hello, Larchmonter.
Yes, The Saker has posted in the past a Tulsi sucking up to Israel at some event or something.
Here’s an edited YouTube, i.e. short:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHAx4C8437k
Longer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxXcUNct18Q
I heard a snippet of her mentioning her service in ‘a combat zone’ some time ago. Big deal. Tens of thousands of soldiers, sailors and Marines ‘served in a combat zone’ and never heard a shot fired in anger, never faced the roar of the guns, never quick marched to the sound of the distant drums knowing full well they were going to the cauldron ‘in the shadow of the valley of death’. She ain’t one of them, ergo her trying to bask in the reflected glory of the true warriors is a travesty and shows her true ilk.
She’s a fake like most politicals, nothing more. I doubt she will withdraw from politics or resign her position in the House, she’s just saying that to get some face time with the media. Her vote, ‘present’, says it all. No spine, no moral convictions, no soul.
We are watching the death of the ‘Democrats’, who are about as far from being ‘democrats’ as one can be. A pox on the lot of them.
Auslander
Precisely my sentiments as well. She appears like the female, white Obama to me, with the way she speaks, her mannerisms, etc. Also reminds me of Rachael Ray (lol).
I completely agree with you, Larchmonter. One has to search very hard to find a real spine in US politics. Gabbard is like the vast majority of politicians in the US – sells herself extremely effectively to many by her slick Hollywood-type package. Amazing how many men fall for attractive women irrespective of what comes out of their mouth or the actions they demonstrate (or don’t demonstrate). Even Lincoln was “forced” to execute close to 40 innocent Indigenous people as a result of pressure, The USA is tainted, and has been so from the time of the Pilgrims. The whole society is built on genocide, lies, deceit, cruelty, greed, corruption – there is no hope for the current system. And Saker is right – it does affect each and every one of us. An Australian Indigenous Elder once said in an interview with John Pilger, that Australia has no sovereignty – and will never have it until it lets us have ours.’ Same for the US – it is not truly a sovereign nation.
“An Australian Indigenous Elder once said in an interview with John Pilger, that Australia has no sovereignty – and will never have it until it lets us have ours.’ Same for the US – it is not truly a sovereign nation.”
Australia has no sovereignty because the British monarchy still holds the final governing powers — both legally (Governor General); and culturally (cultural cringing comprador elites). Pilger himself (who I have a lot of time for) is one of those who left and floats around the UK pretending to be different).
The weakness in this indigenous logic is that, technically, the stone age peoples who lived here (known by the Japanese as ‘go-shu-gin-des’ — southern barbarians, or words to that effect) did not have nations. “Nation” is an invented word that comes in around State-level organization. They were technically part of the antipodean (Penal Colony) system up until around 1904 (admittedly at the bottom of the economic food chain, but not formally excluded) when a wave of apartheid logic swept the world emanating out of South Africa. Australia formally federated a number of independent colonies around 1901. At that point the indigenous tribes were effectively marginalized and quarantined on reserves. They technically remained British subjects/possessions until around 1966 when the law was changed (same time the Pound was replaced with the Dollar, and the country left the ‘kings foot’ behind and went metric). Native Title came in during the late 20th century and now there is more recognition of status and cultural rights. Nonetheless, it is a complex issue. There are few original peoples left except in remote desert places and to the north where the climate did not attract Europeans — and many of these new ‘voices’ demanding more are educated mix-blood peoples with likely more Irish or Afghan than indigenous — albeit, they have grown within the marginalized indigenous cultural framework.
The sovereignty he/she speaks of is not ‘given’ by some benevolent patriarchal system. It is taken by people who can stand up in (their current) modern world — whatever stage it is at — and take it. Unfortunate, but true world wide. The double-bind these folk are in is problematic — they are citizens of a nation (Australia); ex-subjects of the British Crown. A check of all the benefits given indicates a mood of recognition and bias towards help in recognition of past handicaps etc (education scholarships, 1/16th blood level justification for various social welfare schemes etc). And yet, they also want separate cultural identity. Fine, but there were 100’s of tribal groups that were not a nation. And so, acting as a nation (now) in pursuit of identity is both a necessity (it seems) and an evolving into something more than their ancestral situations as a Dravidian peoples (e.g. see https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-15/research-shows-ancient-indian-migration-to-australia/4466382).
Check out where the tribal peoples of India are at in the vana (caste system) there — i.e., of that never ‘white’ civilization before the Europeans tuned up a few hundred years back. Yep, bottom of the rung and many considered ‘untouchable.’ So, there we have it: it is human nature at work. It is too complex to be unwoven and the only way, is forward. Those what want to play the race card (and yes, as usual, follow the money!); and focus on cultural appropriation etc — as if it was some from of IP under European Law — then drop your clothing; get out of your cars; turn off the tv/internet & iphone; pick up your spears (the bow and arrow had not been invented yet, nor the drum); and go hunting and gathering. It’s called ‘off grid’ these days.
The main problem with the sentiment “Australia has no sovereignty” is the misunderstanding of the nature of the animal. These are mental constructs that serve a purpose, and not likely one we may initially think of (due to our education system). These systems (and especially the USA) are more like corporations. India was conquered by the East India Company; Java by the Dutch East India Company. Corporations running ‘plantations’ with mostly indentured labor (effectively) etc. The ‘assets’ were slowly handed over to the founding power structures (e.g., UK Crown & other European colonizing powers) when that next stage (of socializing risk) became optimal for the capital in control.
Unfortunately, the European ‘enlightenment’ just did not recognize any value in Australian indigenous culture, or possessions, or law. Unlike India, Java, New Zealand Maori etc, they were considered just too darn primitive, with no assets to plunder (e.g. cities & agriculture); or local hierarchies to dominate. That is what “terra nullius” meant. Now the challenge for indigenous peoples seeking ‘equal’ status is — how to update culture without losing it etc. That is a paradox. In the meantime, the modern world of “post-whatever” is rapidly moving way past the idea on “nation” and into who knows what… (seat belt on folks!).
As an honorary Maori (Tukorehe), I applaud your grasp of the situation in which we find ourselves – all of us -, who will never be royal.
Yuri, I think you made some very good points especially showing the behaviour of US politicians from a historical perspective (the actions of Lincoln with respect the falsely accused native Americans he signed the death warrants for.
“If you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything.” Tulsi is Obama light. There is Haqq
And Batil. No middle or center.
Larchmonter, Tulsi is anything but a dimwit, she has become a us congresswoman from being a blue collar marine medic, she did that without any apparent big money and she did it by espousing anti-establishment and MiC positions (usually political suicide). In addition, exhibits emotional intelligence and self-control that is way beyond you and me. In fact she’s so polished and well trained it makes suspect her of being a deep state trojan horse (like Obama).
In addition, she has exhibited impeccable logic and analysis regarding Syria, the only candidate with knowledge, intelligence and apparent skills in logic and analysis.
Does that prove that she’s a competent manager, a natural leader, a strategic thinker? No. But stupid she is not, quite the opposite, she’s obviously very intelligent (so much so she comes across as being too potentially good to be true). Compared to both current Republican and Democratic exceptionalism spewing politicians, she looks like a genius in comparison.
I totally agree with Saker, for her to not vote yes on impeachment in the current hysterical fanatical democratic party took real courage as did her meeting with Assad (at least on the face of it). Plus you have to commend her for supporting Trump in his winning trade war against mercantile China. No way she’s an empty head, whether a geniune persona or a created persona, she’s very intelligent.
Remember, I’m coming from the point of view of not trusting her at all, but even I admit what an admirable persona she is (or projects).
But, have “all the other former empires” really become “normal nations”? I must answer this question with a no. France, Spain, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark all remain Imperialist in varying degrees; then there’s NATO the Imperial instrument and the EU. Germany’s an odd case since it exerts a modicum of Hegemony via the EU while remaining an occupied nation. However, recent actions by the Outlaw US Empire’s Congress will create the energy for the German’s to finally rid themselves of their occupation. That combined with Brexit will generate a new dynamic that will eventually see the EU merge with the EAEU/BRI project.
What will become of Gabbard after the election if she doesn’t become POTUS or the VEEP? Will she remain in politics and try to forge a People’s Party to succeed the failed D-Party or ? Perhaps she’ll change her mind and try to retain her House seat. Maybe run for Governor of Hawaii? And what of Sanders and his millions of followers upon whom political war is also being waged as shown by Trump’s letter and D-Party machinations? Yes, lots of questions having no discernable answers as yet. I’ve participated in the discussion (as karlof1) over at Moon of Alabama and mostly agree with b’s assessments as this entire affair–Russiagate, Ukrainegate, and Impeachment fiasco–is all interconnected with the massive corruption that’s been growing within the Outlaw US Empire’s federal government since Reagan, and we might even say since the end of WW2 when the USA truly became a lawless entity.
@a little clarification,
I believe your post also requires a little clarification, your comments on India, Dravidians, tribals in India, the Varna/caste system and the genetic connection of Australian aborigines to a component of the people of India, may have some misconceptions. I don’t believe these misconceptions are deliberate or your fault: most educational material in the English speaking world on these subjects are infested with disinfo, genuine confusion, pseudo science, and contradictions. I’ll use short bullet points to keep it short:
-Untouchability and being Dravidian should not be conflated and are not interchangeable or related. The term Dravidian refers to the linguistic family predominant in southern Indian states but in particular are associated with the Indian state of Tamil Nadu. Tamil = Dravidians and Dravidians does not equal untouchable caste/varna. All Tamils are considered Dravidians, including their warrior castes, intellectual castes (brahmins), their business caste, their labor and trade caste, etc.
-All Indians today are native and indigenous to India: this has been proven by genetics (you may have noticed we’re all brown, with a tiny number of exceptions being fair skinned, you may have also noticed Indians, for the most part, have similar features from Kanyakumari (southern tip) to Kashmir (Kashmiris are also brown no how matter they try to deny it). Whether you believe in the now discredited foreign invasion theory (circa 5000 BC and 1500BC) of India’s foundation or not, it plainly obvious to any but the blind that the various component peoples of India would be thoroughly mixed after thousands of years cohabitation (just like modern Russians are mixed Altaic/Siberians/Tartars/Mongols/Slav after only a few hundred years), this might explain why the mixed Polynesian-Eurasian Tulsi Gabbard can easily pass for an Indian. Genetics proves that Indians belong to the same indigenous genetic base.
-so called tribals, for the most part, are genetically the same as city dwelling Indians of their region, racially we are part of the same genetic cluster, culturally we wear the same clothes, worship the same God’s (some in the forest are also animist, so are many city dwellers who even deify trees and plants) and are part of the same civilization.
-indians have known for a very long time that the aborigines of Australia are related to some of our ancestors who migrated to Australia due to obvious phenotype commonalities between them and us.
-both north Indians and south indians (including so called Dravidians) belong to the same genetic cluster. The ASI and ANI cluster belong to the same genetic cluster.
-the caste system in its current form represents class stratification, corruption, economic and power protectionism (ie a form of cronyism) and degeneration that periodically plagues society before a crash and renewal. It plagues all urbanized societies under various names, in Britain it’s called the class system. India is currently undergoing a renewal and consequently the caste system is being destroyed/neutralized by the current Hindu sovereignist government, by education, and by market forces, and that’s a good thing.
I thought the present vote was brilliant. Definitely getting Tulsi some play on the MSM circuits.
Tulsi says she stands in the middle, the center. What exactly does she mean?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52695.htm
That she is running on the Democratic ticket, the party of the criminally insane is concerning enough. She could run as an independent.
It appears most of these creatures are bought and paid for by ‘special interests’, meaning voting for D or R is a lost cause.
This country is not a Democracy, it is a Republic,albeit a Republic compromised by corporations,wealthy individuals, and sadly the Supreme Court. This has led to the ugly divisions we are witnessing in our “two party system”. Our electorate in Congress is a large part of that broken system in the pay to play enterprise it has become. Tulsi, at times is a breath of fresh air.
Tulsi during the debate asked all the other Democratic Candidates to join her in ending Regime Change. Nobody took her up on that and the MSM certainly wasn’t going to ask them the question. Now we all know, all the other Democratic candidates are in favor of endless wars.
Hoping this time it’s different, probably a dumb view to have after more than 25-years of watching the insanity. All the other candidates are admitted warmongers and will be labeled as such.
I couldn’t agree more Saker. Tulsi continues to prove that she is the only candidate qualified to become President of the USA. The Clinton Democrat Party is commuting suicide right in front of us and I couldn’t be happier that it has finally happened.
My comment a few hours ago didn’t meet some standards, I see.
So.
I’ll re-phrase it.
Using am. colloquial English,
“It appears someone is having ‘buyer’s remorse’, regarding the *American Dream*”.
Well, George Carlin explained the dilemma quite well;
“The American Dream….yeah. You gotta be asleep to believe it.”.
As for Tulsi, well it looks like she doesn’t know Alexander Hamilton was a rothschild-agent.
A true patriot, Aaron Burr challenged Hamilton to a duel and, shot-him-dead.
I wonder what Tulsi really thinks about bankers & patriotism?
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Only the Truth. Veritas X- .
Strange for you are the first one to mention Hamilton and the role he played when he set up the treasury,for he said in the book ( The Life Of Washington) Hamilton who was a great admire of the British system of government said “at the center of the treasury shall be placed a group of individuals who will build the ships,create business, build the industry, and of course this group were the bankers, the same as the British form of government.And of course this is the group who have created and cause all the recessions,panics and the depression as they chased the endless profit.!!!
Wow! Where to begin?! You people have it inside out. Hamilton was–philosophically and economically–in the intellectual “school” of Leibniz. (Yup, the physicist, philosopher, etc. Leibniz who was a proponent of cosmic and not just human-historical progress; versus Locke whose worldview was one of gigantic physical inertia.) Why bring this up? Because the so-called “American School” [which google] of thought–including but not limited to history or economics was Leibnitizian in Nature and not–to cut to the chase–Lockean or any other sort of British ideology in any major issue. The most crucial intellectual circle in early American thought was that of the Carey family. And it was that circle which brought Hamilton into those precincts …far, far away from the “British System” (as it was designated in those days in America/USA. Now to the little, current posting’s point. The American System believed in Leibnitz’s “progress without end”. And this included–in the sphere of physical [not monetarist] economics] that a populace should become more and more potent in the material world by becoming more talented. And this included inventing (from scientific acumen) and applying that acumen to the physical world. Not via monetarism or colonial exploitation of existing “resources”. Now the National Bank–to take an institution at issue here–was NOT a central Bank in any standard meaning of that term. Thus not a “British System” bank and also thus certainly not a Rothschild operation.
So who has prevailed in your opinion,(or perceived to have prevailed), the leibnitz crowd or some other group of progressiveists?
Wow Roman, that was really enlightening, give us more! What you wrote explains why America is so different from Europe and the backwater of corruption known as Britain.
I think you forget Hamilton’s farther was British and he was brought up to worship the Union Jack,and by the way those wealthy men he placed at the center of the treasury were the wealthy bankers with much British money involved.The founding fathers were the elite class and the Constitution was tilted for that same class,one only has to read the true history of the country ,and all the traitors involved,the monied blue bloods in New England who’s famlie’s married first cousins to keep the ill gotten wealth within the elite, the wealth generated from the slave trade and the opium trade and the West India Co.The working class in the new country were little different than the rest in the world the first thing the new government looked for was the placing of taxes on the people causing the Shays rebellion and the the tax on the small whiskey makers causing the Whiskey Rebellion And now you know why it was so easy for the bankers to take over the Treasury with the Federal Reserve, for they were already embedded within the new government,the enemy was already within the gates.!!!!.!!
Of course it is The House of Commons=The House Of Representitive’s
The House of Lords=The Congress
Also the high court is sit up the same way,they simply threw in a few things they took from The Six Nations where representation is determented by the population which we see fails to work very well as the cities have more representitive then the rest of the state.
As far as the Rothschilds I believe they do own shares in the Federal Reserve along with some other foreign banks and with all the money the Feds been pouring out they must be really making a killing seeing they get a cut off from every dollar.!!!
Hey, btw, it can only be a “coup” if it’s a monarchy or some such political form. The impeachment process is just trying to put a check to this president’s reckless power (and hopefully do something that all of the spineless republicans will not: stand up to a reckless egomaniac who is trying to nullify any view that conflicts with his own (ie. by saying anything other than Fox or Breitbart is “fake news”))
And you say the democrats are traitors? lol . How about the repubs who don’t have the balls to check their dictator wanna-be.. T
There are many coups in Republics,it would be easy to name a dozen if needed. As to Trump he certainly has a lot of flaws.The one I hate the most is his slavish kowtowing to Israel. But that isn’t what the Dems care about. They are almost as bad about that as he is.
So what “reckless power” does Trump have that any other US President didn’t have and use.Obama was more of a war president than Trump is (so far). They called him the “deporter in chief”,he deported more illegal aliens than Trump has.And it was his regime that started the family separation policy,and built the cages that Trump gets blamed for.But I didn’t hear of whining Dems being “triggered” by any of those things while he was President.The US MSN treats him like he walked on water,and did over all his 8 years.
So you hate Trump’s tweeting,his arrogance,calling the media fake news,etc. Guess what,shocker,none of those things is an impeachable offense according to the US Constitution. I’m thinking those that hate that about Trump are in for a heartbreak. Besides, most of his supporters like some of that about him. They are tired of getting our leaders thoughts second or third hand.And never knowing if that is their “public position”,as opposed to their having a ,”private position”.With Trump you know pretty quickly what he is thinking from his Tweets.I could do without some of that arrogance true.But the country knew he was like that when they voted him in,that was no surprise.You may have noticed if you have visited this site before that we almost all believe the US media is “fake news”.And why is that you might ask? It’s because we see how they fake stories.And most people knew the media was fake long before Trump called it that.He just brought it out into the open for the whole world to see.Kind of like the little kid in “The Emperors new clothes”.
I see like most Trump haters you are calling him a “would be dictator”. First,would you like to share any “dictator” moves he’s made in the country? All US Presidents could be called in some ways a dictator.But I’m interested in moves you think,besides the normal US President,that he has made.My thinking is that a dictator would never have allowed his political enemies to oppose him like the Dems do Trump.They’d have been in a jail cell or a grave long before now in a dictatorship.And these demonstrations we see against him.Those people would have seen the police or military beat their heads in right from the start in a dictatorship.And heaven help the media reporters that attack him daily.They’d have been silenced,and I do mean “silenced” the first time they tried that.I think you really don’t understand how a “dictatorship” works.Trump is certainly no Putin that’s for sure.But he’s better than any Dem that’s ran,or is running against him so far.He is the most transparent US President in my long lifetime.That is one thing I like about him.And that is the thing his haters hate the most about him.
From all the comments I can see that they have achieved their purpose to divide the people,for a long time they played the race card to stir up the people, now that that’s wore out they are playing the right vs left card to stir up the mass’s for any sane person knows this is going no where,the two parties are like the two wings on a bird connected to the same bird making it one happy bird,or perhaps a better difinition would be one happy buzzard with the people being the losers as they pay little or no attention to what else is going on.!!!!!
You are missing the point, imo. It isn’t that Trump is trying to be dictator. The very system he was placed into, and has existed since at least WWII, is an authoritarian-(soft/best PR, modernized) totalitarian at its core. The Executive having usurped far more power than was relegated to it by the Constitution, esp with GWB/Cheney admin putting that trajectory/precedent on steroids.
So it fits that we have a character (ego) such as Trump’s as POTUS. America is a kind of reality show and there’s no better show man than Trump for the job, from the pov of many Americans who are lost in this “reality show” (what with TV, MSM, social media, etc).
Although I have never held politicians in high esteem, when I was younger I always found the rhetoric of the Democratic party to be a bit more sophisticated than that of the republican who boasted only about “freedom”, tax cuts, and deregulation. As a child I can remember all the scorn and condescension directed at McCarthyies with their anti-communist hysteria. But looking at this Russiagate nonsense and now this Ukrainegate hoax I can see that Democrats are every bit as stupid as the most stalwart Republican.
What makes matters worse is the way the msm has abetted the Democrats in what is a transparent effort to usurp their authority. If the much vaunted “free press” were honest and scrutinized the substance of these allegations against Trump it would be obvious that this was a blatant attempt to overthrow the President on a flimsy pretext. The same was certainly true of Russiagate as well with the intelligence and national security services clearly mobilized to overthrow the Presidency.
I find myself in the odd position of defending Trump, whom I genuinely dislike and do not typically support. Unfortunately, I have little hope for democracy producing good outcomes when the means of mass communication are controlled to the extent the “free press” in America are. I only hope these two completely corrupt parties, the corrupt msm, and the equally corrupt national security establishment do not cause too much damage before the whole system can be reformed.
American foreign policy has always been a disaster regardless of party and the media does a spectacular job of keeping the public misinformed , but I now realize that the media
To me, Tulsi comes across like a Rand Paul in that they both hold back due to pragmatism. In the current political environment, an idealogue, especially one that goes against the grain, has zero chance of getting anything done. Even Ron Paul who is more of an idealogue that either Rand or Tulsi, understood this.
Tulsi voting “no” would have ended her run for the presidency, full stop. Adhering to ideological purity at this time would have amounted to cutting off her nose to spite her face.
I give her a pass on her “present” vote.
Tulsi is told what to say… by her Sponsers. Modern poltics has no place for a one man or woman show.
We need to acknowledge electoral politics are a 100% rigged game, as they always have been. Occaisonal populist uprisings are always put down and candidates who sincerely represent the People will be murdered if they are a genuine threat to the proverbial powers that be.
Politicians are in fact lifetime actors. You should not put anymore faith in this one then you would in Forrest Gump. Their votes and public statements are based on raw calculations of interest. Stray too far off the Oligarch Party Line and your candidate will be destroyed.
Her sponsers represent one of several competing Oligarch/Intelligence interest groups/alliances, and like it or not they are vying for influence via a candidate who has agreed to represent them. Your interests are only incidental, the primary example of which is all candidates must agree Israel comes first. Remember that next time you foolishly vote for someone believing this time things will be different.
Zionism, which is in fact Anglo-American Imperialism and Class based Supremacism, is the core identifying characteristic of all our elites. Abrahamic culture is uniform in this regard: elites represent themselves and wash your brain to garner programmed responses for to their deceptions.
Tulsi may not be a Zionist herself but her sponsers can be nothing else.
Its too bad you could not build a case(against the gvt) using your statements, have you any idea where you might have fallen short. No offense naturally, I rarely find someone who can build the case they desire.
Could I build a case that electoral politics are rigged?
Easily. Yes.
That the popular will never wins?
Yes yes.
That politicians are essentially actors, fronting for sponsering interests who are behind them throughout their career?
Uh huh.
That Zionism is a cloak Anglo-American Imperialism?
Oh yes. See British Israel and all that. Or you could just think about it for 30 seconds and let it dawn upon you -like a new day.
All of the statesments above are easily proven. I have done so aleady a thousand times. I will not do it again for people so lazy they won’t even follow a link – or haven’t yet done it for themselves nearly 20 years after 9/11.
They don’t want to know. I accept this is their position with respect to the logic of our authentic responsibility.
The question is how do You respond if even just one of the statements above is true?
The first step in tackling a problem is acknowledging the truth. After half a lifetime of searching for it I have found some basic facts, as listed above, represeting the fundamental nature of system we are asked to legitimating with a vote of consent.
I have read the contract and I do not consent.
I have my own biases and unique perceptions, to be certain, I am human after all, but I double dog dare anyone to demonstrate convincingly and without sophistry or troll tricks the essence of the points made above are somehow or completely untrue.
I see arguments over there plenty, but no legal case to prevent the gvt from abusing the citizens rights.
Tulsi is the only sane Democrat running for president. I think she is playing the long game as she is only 38. She is running for President , not Sainthood, so of course she has to make political calculations here and there. She did serve in a combat zone and had to make instant decisions about triage. Also snap decisions like putting a tourniquet on for the chopper ride back to base, knowing that it may cost a leg. The US military is so dishonorable and in violation of their oaths to the constitution, that we have a massive education process. Outlaw Historian is right about the Supremacy clause and our commitment to the UN treaty
Not sure Tulsi Gabbard’s “centrist” strategy will pay off in this highly polarised political environment. She has to come out either strongly in favor or strongly against something. These days elections are won on strong positions on a single issue or handful of issues.
This video does her no favors in this regard.
Yeah but the longer Nancy is seen as juggling the impeachment papers, the better it looks to be a lone rider riding a neutral horse.
Watching the impeachment hearings was a painful experience. The US needs a creative destruction moment for their government. It does not work. If Apple or Microsoft ran their business like the government is operated, they would have been bankrupt a long time ago. Time to put in a new system. How about eliminate 70% of the government.
House Democrats already fear will be a trial tilted in favor of the President
CNN
However it is not down to the House to try the President. That is the the job only for the Senate:
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.
Constitution – Article I, Section 3, Clause 6
the Constitution both provides the Senate with the “sole power to try impeachments” and empowers “Each House…to determine the Rules of its Proceedings,”
The Supreme Court accepted the Senate’s arguments in Nixon v. United States (1993) on the principal ground that the Senate’s power to try impeachments included the nonreviewable final discretion to determine how to conduct its trials.
It is ironic that the symbol of the democrats is a jackass!
Tulsi did what is correct for a Democrat because some minor aspects of Trump’s conduct is questionable but they are not the high crimes that warrant impeachment.
I would have voted No on the facts as any President is entitled to ask a foreign Govt to look into illegal conduct of its citizens regardless of who they are (aka Biden), particularly someone whose father is seeking to be elected to a high office.
Presidents have do that all the time – said ‘we wont support you on this if you wont help us with that’ etc…. Its part of the govt processes.
Saker,
I think you will find this whole approach by Pelosi & co will backfire on them as core old Dem voters abandon them. Theyve already lost a core vote as Tulsi is pulling 6-10%. Without that the 10% no Dem candidate in Nov 2020 (Warren Biden Hillary etc…) could win.
There’s also a Green candidate that may pull another 5% off them.
The people who voted for JFK Carter Mondale Dukakis etc… will abstain or vote to Tulsi or even Trump as a last resort.
Then another 20% want Bernie.
Many of the sensible young people will also take a dim view of Pelosi.
Remember that the Republican field currently is not divided. There’s no strong challenger to Trump.
And if the establishment GOP think they will remove Trump quietly at this impeachment and slip in someone like Ryan to run in Nov, there will be internal party chaos and split and risk of permanent damage to the House and Senate numbers. Trump could re-run as independent if they did, with Tulsi ?? if she gets turfed from the Dem race.
Pelosi is acting all this out for the converted – it wont go down well with the swing voters who will see thru it.
Everyone know Trump has been doing his best to fix the mess left from Clinton to Obama and that he’s been frustrated in doing so.
Looks like the longer circus will continue, the more damage the USA would have to endure. And it stems from the unbalance created when geriatric ideologues of the disintegrating SU hold to their dogma until it was too late slowly and safely turn things around. There were signs of disintegration even in 70th but after the idiotic Afghanistan war pace really accelerated. To a certain extent present ruling elite, mostly Dems, but Reps component is also substantial strongly reminds me soviet nomenclature.
But, as long as Russia and China continue their developments there will counterbalance. Even now the US establishment obviously is not capable in present environment even to contemplate such stupid bloody activities like Monika’s war on Balkans, or disgusting and bloody (and even self inflicting conflicts in MENA).
Long time ago, when the SU collapsed I thought that finally the word will live in peace and healthy cheerful pursuit of prosperity. To my surprise and shame I was mistaken.
I find this speech disgusting, not only does she repeat the usual platitudes about the center and taking middle ground but she glides over the fact that the ZIo-Murikan system is intrinsically evil and there is no voting, person or party that can reform it or make it right, it must be destroyed.
I think her present vote was the only respectable way to go. I’m actually surprised a few other representatives, of both parties, didn’t do the same. This whole thing is a scam, just like the clinton impeachment soap opera, where noth sides have vested interests in promoting the scam, and are doing so very theatrically.
What’s their purpose?
To keep us chasing our tails while both congress and the trump regime further turn the usa into a replica, of sorts, of Orwell’s 1984. It frees them up to pursue some extremely totalitarian and disgusting foreign and domestic policies which otherwise would receive more scrutiny.
Regarding gabbard’s resoning for voting present, her talk of a divided america, I don’t know if this is the actual reason, and if, why. An america divided is also a weaker opponent to Russia, China, Iran and whoever else is getting in the way of zpc/nwo dominance. I’m not convinced she is is actually for real in her antiwar stances.
But whatever her reasoning behind this choice, the present vote sends a stronger “I am not a party to this psywar scam being used against the american people. I don’t agree with it, nor want to encourage it in any way” message than voting yes or no would, which would only promote the scam further.
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Tulsi sees through all the stuff that has been going on and I agree that she is the most honest politicians left. She also sees how this SpyGate or Coup dӃtat attempt leads to the great division we now see happening in this God-forsaken nation. How long it takes before they all see it has related to Zionism and Mossad operations will become clear via Epstein saga revelations in the near future (wether they dare to expose Mossad though, remains a question).
Tulsi may be correct. Trump may have indeed commited some crimes in the “Abuse of Power”. Although the U.S. Constitution is not explicit on the matter, it does say in so many words, and it is embodied into our Constutional Law by way of a number of court cases, that Congress does have jurisdiction in foreign affairs as to how it is to be conducted and what policies are to go forth. Rules and regulations are encoded into the conduct of our Foreign Diplomatic Corps which assure Congress’ role in foreign policies, i.e. that they be “kept in the loop.” What Trump clearly did was circumvent the Diplomatic Corp, and thereby he also circumvented those rules and regulations, and hence the authority of Congress. Now as to if some rules were actually violated by an action on Trump’s part?; that is hard to say without a proper investigation. Because of all the Trumpophobia any real investigation never took place. The true case for impeachment was never laid out; all that took place was a conflageration of rhetoric. In an environment where everybody is breaking the rules anyway, its hard to condem someone for just doing the same.
Smart girl, Tusli! She figured it out, and took the only possible meaningful action in such a matter, and she is recommending the only reasonable course of action for Congress to take. She is probably the only one who may have actually read the six hundred something page report, and was able to properly digest the situation. I applaud her for doing her homework. She is certainly on my short list for President.