El Murid SITREP, August 1, 2014
Defeating a Large Group of the Punitive Forces Could Start a Chain Reaction
Original: El Murid LiveJournal
Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov
Photograph: Viktor Drachev / AFP
According to Russia Today (Experts: Kiev Military Operation is doomed to failure because of internal contradictions)
“… Kiev is unable successfully to conduct the military operation in the east of the country, as it is not in complete control of all the military formations that are engaged in the so-called ATO …
… Inside the Ukrainian army, the principles of subordination have been breached: direct executors are in no hurry to implement the orders of the command and often perceive these orders as “recommdendations”. According to the agency’s source, the military is refusing to conduct artillery strikes of cities and “does not demonstrate sufficient activity during sweeps and purges” …”
In many ways, the conclusions reached in RT’s analysis are absolutely fair. Objectively, the Ukrainian army is simply a worse clone of Division SS “Galychyna”. Samostiyna [Note: Ukrainian for “independent”] Ukraine is unable to create anything better.
Today, the punitive forces suffered yet another defeat – remnants of the 25th Aeromobile Brigade, Battalion Dnepr, as well as other rabble-like units that attached or strayed to them, were surrounded in the Shakhters-Torez-Snezhnoye area.
The defeat of this grouping is the outcome of the ramming offensive tactics using mass numbers of tanks and other military hardware, followed first by sweeps and purges with the aid of sonderkommando and then by the establishment of checkpoints. With invariable consistency, again and again, such tactics has led to the same outcome – the punitive forces are drawn into a narrow corridor of an “intestine” that is wide-open to artillery fire. Once the main ramming force of the collected horde is exhausted, the Militia cuts the “intestine” down the flanks and surrounds and eliminates that Nazis gathered in the cauldron.
It appeared, at first, that the goal of the current offensive in this area may have been achieved – the punitive forces were able even, for a short period of time, to cut off the last remaining road connecting DPR with LPR and Russia. With our own eyes we saw how the Nazis immediately began to exterminate civilians, murdering them in buses and cars travelling to the east.
However, the colossal military hardware losses, which are practically inevitable with such a catastrophically unprepared offensive operation, predictably led to the same outcome. It is likely that it will take several days to finish off the remnants of the Ukrainian forces that ended up being enricled; however, overall, everything is pointing to Kiev’s latest gamble ending in failure.
It should be mentioned that the situation for the Junta is becoming not only difficult, but threatening. Two waves of mobilization enabled the army to conscript up to seventy thousand men of military personnel. However, because these men and equipment were entered into battle in a very chaotic manner, without proper teamwork training, with extremely low quality of combat training, and with equipment in an appalling state of disrepair, as a result, the Junta just splashed gasoline on damp wood. The offensive burst into flames and just as quickly died down. The wood remains damp, and gasoline has run out.
There is a stalemate – instead of building an army and preparing it for a decisive strike, Kiev is continuously forced to throw its newly created units at the front, plugging up holes and wasting time in senseless offensive operations. This process cannot be stopped – the Militia will seize the initiative and crush the remnants of the armies of Kiev. By throwing increasing number of ever-more inferior troops into the fire, Kiev only prolongs the agony, as it no longer has the ability to conduct a decisive offensive.
The Militia is faced with a similar predicament – it cannot fully control such a large territory and is force to organize a focal defence, divert its forces to control roads and constantly to maneuver with extremely low reserves to repel attacks from various directions. This critical situation continues. It can no longer be said that the Ukrainian punitive forces possess an overwhelming superiority – according to Strelkov, the punitive forces mix up their battle formations in completely unimaginable ways, resulting in the loss of control and the complete absence of coordination. However, it cannot be said the Militia has been able to force the situation in its favour.
It appears that a defeat of a large grouping of the punitive forces could give birth to a chain reaction – the Militia would free up its troops and begin successively, increasing its efforts, to finish off the semi-defeated hordes of the enemy. It is still to early to claim a decisive advantage, but the preconditions for this are gradually forming
And now for the sad part. On August 1, the Militia and the Ukrainian army exchanged their dead and prisoners near Shakhtersk. A preliminary examination has revealed that four of the dead were finished off in a barbaric fashion – with a knife. The fifth was strangled. The exchange of prisoners was even more terrifying – two live militiamen were returned to the Militia with the heaviest of injuries, broken bones, and beaten to a pulp lungs and viscera. The medics have already pronounced that there is nothing they can do – people were practically beaten to death.
The Commande-in-Chief gave an order – [officers] of the punitive 25th Brigade are not to be taken prisoner – and took the responsibility himself. Commanders conducting exchange negotiations with the Nazis were instructed immediately to report this to the commander of the 25th Brigade. In my opinion, this decision is absolutely justified. Crimes of this nature should receive an adequate response.
Latest from the Southern Cauldron – The Inevitable Finale
The Militia: Ukrainian Equipment and Light Arms Must be Left Intact and Surrendered, Safe Passage Only Through Russia
Original: Colonel Cassad LiveJournal
Translated from Russian by Gleb Bazov
Photograph: The Inevitable End for Any Fascist
According to the Ukrainian Minister of Defence, Valeriy Geletei, as quoted by Obozrevatel.com:
Ukraine lost seven military transport aircraft in repeated attempts to deliver cargo with food and ammunition to the soldiers of the 72nd Mechanized and the 79th Aeromobile Brigades.
This was announced by the Ukrainian Minister of Defence, Valeriy Geletei, during a live broadcast of the “Shuster Live” talk show.
Geletei stated: “The situation on the border with Russia is very difficult. We lost seven aircraft while delivering cargo to our forces on the border.” According to him, the provisioning of Ukrainian fighters with food and weaponry has been severely compromised because “the terrorists have everything that the Russian army has in its arsenal.”
Amusingly, Geletei’s numbers exceed the information provided by militiamen, who claim that to have downed a total of four transport aircraft.
And now for the latest news from the Southern Cauldron from a person who attended the surrender negotiations.
The situation is such that the encircled group of Junta forces is now sitting in the area of Krasnopartisansk, having rolled away from the border.
Their food rations ran out this morning, and they have a minimal amount of drinking water left. There is ammunition only for light arms, and even this will last for another couple of days of fighting at most.
At the meeting, the Junta representative set out conditions requiring that they be permitted to destroy all the military hardware (altogether approximately seventy units; there is no fuel for 90% of the surviving vehicles, and there is virtually no ammunition) and granted safe passage to Ukraine after surrendering all the light arms and the remaining ammunition.
Quite reasonably, the Militia representatives responded that the military hardware must be left intact, that all the light arms must be surrendered and that the passage should lie through the territory of the Russian Federation, with the soldiers being given the opportunity voluntarily to decide whether they desire to continue participating in what is happening or to remain in Russia.
In the event of a refusal, the positions of the surrounded troops will continue to be leveled using MLRS and cannon artillery, especially since they have long been investigated and there has been no problem in covering them with artillery for over a week. According to the estimates of our source, the approximate term for the approximate deadline for the termination of the Southern Cauldron saga is 2-3 days (this is an optimistic prognosis; a realist one suggests 4-5 days), simply due to the running out of the remaining ammunition and the issues with drinking water.
There have been no battles as such, the Militia simply continues to blockade the encircled forces without entering into close combat, preferring instead simply to shell the surrounded troops with cannon and rocket artillery.
In view of the large losses of the enemy’s military transport aviation, the delivery of supplies has been practically reduced to zero, and the aircraft that manage to break through the Militia’s air defences are forced to drop their cargo from a significant height, as a result of which part of such cargo falls on the territory controlled by the Milita. However, even if 100% of the cargo were reaching the Southern Cauldron, it still would not have been enough.
The Militia should, of course, speed up the process, as the freed-up forces and the potential trophies will enable it to stabilize the front and to commence preparations for a counteroffensive.
Is it possible (whew) that Kolomoiskiy et. al. are really going for a two-fer: getting rid of as many Pravy Sektor types as they can *while* ethnically-cleansing the Donbass?
I don’t know how you can get more Evil than Evil itself, but this might challenge that notion — although really it’s nothing more, I suppose, than a particularly noxious version of, “Let’s you and him fight!” Not much different, really, than setting freed slaves and Southern whites likewise displaced after the Civil War against Native Americans. Here, any troops returning intact but jobless from Afghanistan and Iraq I guess have the choice of becoming contractors or cops if there’s no other work to be found. They and their wounded brethren deserve a lot better, but don’t we all!
While in no way detracting from the accomplishment of defeating the encirclement move and containing the cauldron; the amount of time and forces devoted to the task has allowed the Ukrainian army to pierce and cut off reinforcement lines between the two major centres of the militia.
The Ukrainian army could well paint this as an acceptable loss for the greater strategic value of their current position. Until the militia manages offensive operations the positive tone of this article is more the kind of spin we are used to seeing in Junta articles.
Why is there no militia offensive during the Junta re-building of forces for their next offensive? The lack of such counter-attack, the strategy of only dig in contain and defend is profoundly telling.
Let us hope surprises of an offensive nature are held in store or are being nurtured.
So far, the tactics play into militia’s strength. They have interior lines of maneuver, resupply and several terrain advantages.
The strategy of Kiev is mandated by the sponsors who pump billions (we are told millions more coming, but they are infusing billions to prop this criminal regime and its war crimes operations).
If Kiev continues to build new mass, new heavy artillery, new planes and new foreign mercenaries on the payrolls, their strategy does not matter. They will ultimately either force a Russian response in the open or overwhelm Donbass and its military.
There is a report that the Dutch want to send special forces to capture or kill Strelkov and the leadership. Published reports are sometimes talk, but this is real and shows the desired outcome has no limits of means.
Donetsk is still a nest of spies and saboteurs. Slipping in some stealth experts could, at the least, force the military HQ to be moved precipitously.
So far, the militia is not losing. Neither are they winning. At best, they have the capacity to inflict great damage on a very tattered army whose sole preoccupation seems to be war crimes and savagery against civilians, the wounded and prisoners.
The war will pivot neither on Kiev’s strategy nor on the militia’s mobile courage and efficiency.
The war will be decided by Putin. When/if he sends in enough manpower to open a true offensive of light, fast-moving battalions that can sweep Mariupol and flank and decimate the army north of Donetsk and Lugansk, this war can be won as it should be by Russian’s proxy.
If we do not see anything substantial enough in the coming weeks (two), then the war must be won by Russian forces. Since the entire effort so far is to not use Russian troops, it seems likely that the militia will get a doubling in manpower.
Putin must win the Ukraine. Russian must win the Ukraine. The ideal method is to enlarge the militia and destroy the army in the field as it exists today.
I don’t know why Russia is absorbing rocket attacks and murder on its side of the border. I also don’t know why any “plan” would rely on citizens inside Ukraine to fight for Novorossiya. The militia would have 600,000 men by now if that was the case. The construct of Novosrossiya is not in the hearts and minds of the citizens there. Even the bestiality and horrors they have suffered have not driven men into the militia. It is primarily a proxy formed by Russians and pro-Russians with Russian war experience.
It needs to be doubled swiftly.
A thousand 122 mm mortars is all they need.
No fly zone. How dare they tell Russia how to act. Who are they? Believe me, when Russia has had enough of this bullshit, things will change.
I’m confused.
Why is the MSM reporting that the rebels are facing their Waterloo?
I’m more inclined to believe these sitreps (because they depict a possible rebel victory), but I cannot understand why the MSM insists that the fascists are winning.
Is this anything more than the fog of war?
These soldiers trying to tear the Ukrainian flag look like fools in a Kindergarten.
I want them to crashes the junta and behave as adults.
The sitrep might be a little optimistic for NAF.
Both sides are spread really thin, but Ukraine will have an easier time coming up with more meat for the meatgrinder.
The capture of Debaltseve is actually a significant accomplishment for Ukrainian forces. Cutting off one of the two east-west highways M03/M04, despite the cost.
They will surely keep attacking Shakhtarsk to cut off the other east-west highway, H21. Perhaps in a week or two, Ukraine will be able to scrape together another hundred armored vehicles for the next move.
If the NAF is going to avoid encirclement of Donetsk, more help from the East will be needed, resulting in the usual hoopla.
Question: To what extent can anyone conceive that the Khazars/Zionists are indeed being set up for the next Nüremberg trial? It looks more likely by the day. Set up by whom? By the “deeper state”, deeper than the deep state. Deeper.Global.Elite. Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility. Has anyone thought of that?
The constant positive spin of the articles, while the reality is quite different, makes me become more and more sure that NR will be defeated. There are very few people from Donbass willing to fight and I think that most of them run to western Ukraine. Russia is confusing the hell out of any person with a decent brain about the number of refugees from Donbass (as if they take a piss on their readers). The numbers are thousands, then hundreds of thousands, then millions, then back to thousands … I don’t believe them anymore. I remember how in the first few days after Yanukovich left, VoiceofRussia was claiming that 650.000 ukrainians are already refugees (it was barely early March). I think Russia and Putin will lose this war because the west will exploit their greatest weakness: “endemic corruption in russian society, on all levels”. Too bad that Putin didn’t remove this plague. Let’s not forget that Russia contributed even to the endemic corruption in Ukraine by signing gas deals with Tymoshenko (who further enriched several criminal oligarchs). About that fact that they supported an ex-criminal and convict (yes, mr. Yanukovich) who barely finished a school it’s no point to talk. He just looted whatever was left in Ukraine and the father eyes of genius Putin. Now they can reap what they sowed. Russia was so incompetent in realizing how Ukraine is being infiltrated and prepared as a potential enemy right under her nose. Russia is so strong that it prefers to bully small nations that were never part of the Russian Empire and were just victims of Russia: Moldova, Georgia, baltic states. With those ones, Russia is though, but not so much with Ukraine. I really don’t get the stuborness of claiming Moldova, who was one of the worst victims of russian crimes and expansionism (yes, russians were no absolute angels). Go figure … On the other side, many smart and decent people of the world do realize that now Russia is the lesser evil, indeed. Not so much because of its virtues, but because of the others becoming complete criminal states (in case you didn’t know, Gazprom is involved in fracking in eastern Europe too !!!). But the fear of being goaded into the arms of just the other side of an “hegelian dialect trap” is quite big. I wished we could identify at least one more hero in this world, beside Putin. I am convinced at this point he is bluffing, he had many options and many chances to act until now. Even the weird handling of the MH17 story smells bad. Russians acted and act really weird, missing the critical moment when truth needed to be spelled loud and clear.
The madness of Amerika never takes a day off.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-russia-doesnt-anything-west-must-firm-china-201843411.html
Thanks for the updates
Feng, I agree with your thinking, and I too agree that we don’t want fancy pictures we just want them to win.
But we should not forget that these men lost their freedom to live like decent human beings and their land is under attack. Maybe they even lost some loved-ones.
So we must understand that emotional expression is to be expected by them. Take care, keep the faith.
“France has gathered support to challenge US regulators imposing heavy penalties on foreign banks. Berlin, London and Rome have backed Paris in its push to have its concerns about so-called US extraterritoriality discussed when leaders of the world’s top 20 economies meet hoping to bring “more proportionality” to bank fines.”
Noyer, head of the French central bank head of the French central bank: “Trade between Europe and China does not need to use the dollar and may be read and fully paid in euros or renminbi. Walking towards a multipolar world is the natural monetary policy, since there are several major economic and monetary powerful ensembles.”
French Finance Minister Michel Sapin: “We sell ourselves aircraft in dollars. Is that really necessary? I don’t think so.”
Total’s de Chief Executive Christophe de Margerie: “There is no reason to pay for oil in dollars.”
See more: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-03/g-20-revolt-france-gets-positive-reception-challenge-us-bank-fines.
I have studied the situation in Ukraine since February. I have never visited the country, though I have visited Russia. My Russian is limited and my Ukrainian is non-existent. I must say that to make clear to everybody that I am an outsider, a concerned observer, with no personal stake in the matter. I do not take sides because of ethnic origin or because of religion.
Heartbreaking as it has been, I have looked at the situation from afar, trying to keep my sanity in an insane world. That is difficult after the calls for genocide that we have heard and the atrocities already committed. In Kiev, I have seen deceit and from there I have heard many lies. I have seen evil. How do we handle evil? Laugh at it and it departs instantly, at least from us, though the cruel war continues. Heaven is on the side of Novorossiya in this war.
Today in Church we prayed for the Christians in Ukraine and the Middle East.
Below you will find the beginning of a story in need of completion. Who will take up the challenge?
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It was early morning in the White House. Obama sat comfortably with a bucket of coffee, enjoying the solitude and listening to the birds. Life was good.
– Sorry to disturb you, Mr President. Poroshenko is on the phone.
– Again?
– Yes, again.
– He calls every day.
– Yes, he does.
– van Rumpuy also suffers.
– So he does Mr President, so he does. Poroshenko also calls Merkel.
– Give me the transcripts. I want to know what she is up to.
– Of course, Mr President.
– Ok, I’ll take the call.
—
WHAT?
IS THIS A JOKE?
What are DUTCH forces going to do, come offering tulips, throw some wooden clogs & poison Militia with bad tasting Ducth cheese full of hormones.
The Dutch are so high on self importance they couldn’t even win a soccer championship.
If any Dutch forces are after Strelkov I am going to volunteer for Strelkov to show my ugly Dutch arse at the Dutch embassy.
Thats all I can type with realization that I can be held accountable for everything I type..
I am Dutch, rather was & screw the present Dutch government.
I vote for regime change in The Netherlands to get rid of the DUTCH US bootlickers
More than anything else concerning the “situation”, what is conspicuous by it’s absence is the “report” from the investigators concerning the evidence gleaned from the black boxes, especially the audio portions. It’s been now 2 weeks that they’ve been in the hands of those tasked with examining them, and not a peep. One can draw any number of conclusions from this, and I’m leaning towards the scenario that implicates the Ukrainian AF with shooting down the plane with gunfire. The Canadian monitor with the OSCE has stated that the fuselage was riddled with what appears to be machine-gun rounds (probably armour-piercing) http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh17-michael-bociurkiw-talks-about-being-first-at-the-crash-site-1.2721007?cmp=rss&partner=sky , and if the audio corroborates that hypothesis we can rest assured that the US will do all in it’s power to bury the evidence, and if that’s not feasible, will then spin it as the action of a rogue element within the AF or some such nonsense. I think Russia is well aware of what happened and is wise to allow the Junta/US cabal to continue to dig a deeper hole for themselves with the ludicrous accusations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgS2G5PLKno
93th Brigade, to sum it up:
* they havent even allowed the commander to have a speech at the funeral…
* they look really pissed off at NaziGuard and the so called “patriots”
Gems:
8:10
Woman: But they say that everything is OK on TV…
Soldier: Do you believe whats on that TV?
Soldier: I came yesterday …I looked what they showed on TV:
Debaltsevo taken, Gorlovka taken, who took it?
Commander: Nobody took Gorlovka, shrugs his arms in disbelief…
10:28:
Are you from 25th?
No, we are from 93rd. There is almost no one left in 25th.
They were betrayed. They have companies with 10 people each.
But the government says everything is ****ing great!
I too cannot understand what the end game is and how it relates to what is happening on the ground.
The militia seem to be holding the Ukie Army back, but only just. If the Ukie Army gets and adopts proper tactical advice from experienced NATO officers that could change. Then I have seen reports of major Ukie Army movements by train into Mariupol. Something has to change before that happens.
In the meantime the economic structure of the area is being pounded back to 1945, putting huge strain on the poor civilians.
Even if the militia holds out until the weather changes how can the militia ‘win’ when the Ukie Army will just batten down, hold their positions whilst preparing for a total assault, either when the ground is frozen or in the Spring. In the meantime people will starve and freeze.
This cannot be allowed to end in a ‘perceived ‘defeat’ for Russia. If it does it will make the world a much more dangerous place as the US will be convinced it can do anything, anywhere.
The comments here show people aren’t stupid, and even the propaganda and spin on this blog (don’t ‘hurt’ the poor neo-Nazi prisoners- and for heaven’s sake, don’t let Putin send peace-keepers into East Ukraine- and of course the rebel army can defeat the NATO backed forces of Kiev) is now thoroughly rejected by most visitors.
Those that care most about the Humanity of Novorussia understand only realism can help these people. The key forces in Novorussia- the ones with the best record of destroying Kiev armour and aircraft, are clearly Russian and will vanish back into Russia when Novorussia falls (sorry, but this is Putin’s decision). Some resistance will remain, of course, and will probably move to being mostly ‘terroristic’ in nature- the form of all resistance in occupied territory.
We all know Novorussia is on the road to Crimea for Kiev, and thus for the demons running the EU/USA/NATO. Even while Novorussia remains standing, it is the driving force for the total militarisation of Ukraine, and Ukraine’s new military alliances with Poland and other NATO nations. Poles will formally participate in Kiev’s war on Crimea.
Against this backdrop, what matter the little victories in Novorussia? The weapons factories that supply the war machines of the West are in full swing. New armour and restored armour is rolling off the production lines at a record rate. Hundreds of thousands of mercenaries, as I type, are being trained in the art of ground-to-ground weapon systems, missiles, rockets, cannons and mortars. Russia’s technology superiority renders sky based weapons hopeless, but real wars are never won by bombing from the air.
The second component is WILL. The WILL to conquer territory and then place the worst kind of monstrous invaders in charges of the new secret-police apparatus that will rule over the conquered.
Kiev will remove ALL the young men from each conquered region, placing them in military units in some far away part of Ukraine. The tactic is as old as Humanity itself.
The ONLY possible way for the people of Novorussia to win this conflict would be to covertly travel to Kiev, and cut off the head of the serpent. A decapitation strike against the command-and-control systems of the neo-Nazis. To create political and social chaos, so the co-ordination needed to prosecute Holocaust in Novorussia is lost. But Putin will never allow this.
Putin wants, months down the line, for Russia to be able to full-bloodedly destroy the armed forces of Kiev when they finally launch their attack against Crimea. In the meantime, NOTHING must happen that dissuades the neo-Nazis from this path. To our horror, Putin considers Novorussia expendable.
So it seems the drone attack on Donetsk has started – of course this was long anticipated. The Ebola outbreak serves to prepare a nuclear provocation, in Ukraine, France and/or in the US.
Given what is happening in the world right now, Novorussia is looking like one small front of many.
In Ukraine, if the US steps over the line, the Russian Federation will seize Odessa.
Then the task of the US will be the defense of Kiev.
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There is a report that the Dutch want to send special forces to capture or kill Strelkov and the leadership. Published reports are sometimes”
How did these puny insignificant Dutch dare do the terrorist attack in Ukraine.
High time that Rusdia massively nukes Holland and englad the two mist vile protestant antigod nations in Europe.
GBLMK:
Russia is so strong that it prefers to bully small nations that were never part of the Russian Empire and were just victims of Russia: Moldova, Georgia, baltic states.
Moldova – part of Russian Empire from 1812.
Georgia – part of Russian Empire from 1801.
Estonia – part of Russian Empire from 1721.
Livonia (Northern Latvia) – part of Russian Empire from 1721.
Latgale (Western Latvia) – part of Russian Empire from 1772.
Courland (Southern Latvia) – part of Russian Empire from 1795.
Lithuania – part of Russian Empire from 1795.
Please explain how Moldova and Georgia were victims of Russia in comparison to their prior rule by the Ottomans, or how the Baltic regions were victims of Russia in comparison to their prior rule by Sweden, Poland, and the Teutonic Knights.
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There is a report that the Dutch want to send special forces to capture or kill Strelkov and the leadership. Published reports are sometimes”
How did these puny insignificant Dutch dare do the terrorist attack in Ukraine.
High time that Rusdia massively nukes Holland and englad the two mist vile protestant antigod nations in Europe.
Next days will be telling.
If the militia has any real counter-offensive capacity, all troops freed from the Southern pocket should be quicky employed in the Shakhtarsk area before the next wave of cannon fodder is thrown at the small corridor left.
If it will not be so, Novorossija is doomed. New hordes of hooligans will keep banging into the defences until the two capitals are encircled.
And let me add that I disagree with Saker about the treatment reserved to the emeny. If our reports are to be believed, Ukri prisoners are tended, fed, respected and usually even returned to their Country, nevertheless their atrocities increase day by day.
Some kind of retribution is needed, and not (or not only) against the officers but against the rank and file. Facts like the pregnant woman raped and murdered are the work of troop thugs and these need to be taught a lesson. The story of the good Ukri boy unwilling to fight has faltered; they may be not to effective, but full of hatred they are.
Rockerduck
Fwd from Canuckistan:
While this may seem a bit OT, plz consider the following and is much bigger than this well downplayed summary of omission. The toxicity issue noted in this article was already known as far back as 2006 or so. The folks that have been trying to “expose” this upcoming disaster were told to go put on our tin foil hats and that it was a myth from some anti-something left-wing yadayadayada group.
The very same PTB that igkore this, will ignore anything. If they will allow the eventual death of the Great Lakes Basin to exponentially accelerate in favour of controlling the flow of energy and/or ideology, nothing will stop them from in their quest of achieving their fragmented opaque vision of the future.
In summary, they are all insane but they will destroy each other in the process unless the collective citizenry wakes up from their confusing slumber…
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/toledo-ohio-without-safe-tap-water-1.2726467
(btw: be sure to refer a recent satellite map, the dead zone at the mouth of Lake Erie will effectively stop the flow of any nutrients at the worst possible location and may affect the delivery of goods by sea.)
Anon 19:35:
I’m more inclined to believe these sitreps (because they depict a possible rebel victory), but I cannot understand why the MSM insists that the fascists are winning.
Well, if you’d check some of their propaganda sites, such as liveuamap.com and militarymaps.info you would see according to them that them that any time Noble Ukrainian Army advances somewhere, it always wins and holds the Sacred Ukrainian Ground forever. Thus, counterattacks do not exist, and Glorious Ukraine never retreats.
Thus they show Shakhtersk, Torez, West Lugansk, etc. held by the Ever-Victorious Forces of Kiev and Donetsk and Lugansk actually severed.
Of course these are the same people who say that Russia every night sends, 10, 20, 30, or 40 tanks to the NAF, that the NAF then spends its time shelling itself with its Grads and Tanks from Russia, and that the members of the NAF are all Russian citizens holding part of Noble and Great Ukraine hostage through terrorism.
Tragicially according to these sites these evil Terrorussians also seem to be able to get out of the ATO area and set of bombs at places like the Kharkov Armor plant, in Odessa, and in Zaporozhye. It is only because Noble Peaceful Most Honorable Ukraine has not yet mobilized every male citizen able to walk that this happens. Oh and traitors in government and parliament. Its their fault too.
Whether you believe any of that passes the smell test is up to your own judgement. It is definitely what the Mainstream Media, Kiev, and their Twitter Trolls all believe.
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts (our sins), as we also have forgiven our debtors (the ones who wronged us).
And lead us (all humans) not into temptation, but deliver us (humanity as a whole) from evil.
Russia sanctions risk British jobs, warns JCB boss
Lord Bamford said it was “absurd” that his firm would be hurt by EU sanctions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/11009416/Russia-sanctions-risk-British-jobs-warns-JCB-boss.html
Andrew said: Moldova – part of Russian Empire from 1812. Georgia – part of Russian Empire from 1801, etc.
Well, on that score, let’s see one other example, the Austrian Empire and it grabbed its provinces (selective list): Kingdom of Croatia, 1527, Hungary 1688, Kingdom of Slavonia 1699, Grand Principality of Transylvania, 1699, Austrian Netherlands, consisting of most of modern Belgium and Luxembourg, 1713, Duchy of Milan, 1713, Kingdom of Serbia, 1718, Duchy of Bukovina, 1774, Kingdom of Dalmatia, 1797, Kraków, incorporated into Galicia, 1846, Voivodeship of Serbia and Banat of Timisoara, 1849, Bosnia and Herzegovina, 1878, etc.
So what is your point, Andrew? Where is the Austrian Empire today? Just because they got their stuff 200 years ago? Should they still have it? Why would one defend the notion of the Russian Empire in the 21st Century? Even Putin maintains that he is not aiming at rebuilding the Russian Empire as such.
People around the world support Russia today only because as GBLMK said:
“On the other side, many smart and decent people of the world do realize that now Russia is the lesser evil, indeed. Not so much because of its virtues, but because of the others becoming complete criminal states.”
The Soviet Union was a progressive force as long as it represented the liberation movement. There is a fine line that Russia needs to walk if it is to make it. But definitely NOT in the name of the EMPIRE !
Facing Capitalism’s Big Reset and Fascism: What Is at Stake in Ukraine
http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.be/2014/08/facing-capitalisms-big-reset-and.html?spref=fb
The Uki army is in bad shape with an inadequate equipment according to the report above and what does the Ukis do?according to investigative journalist Mohammad Ballout from Assafir(lebanese newspaper saturday 2/08/2014) ,they are selling hundred of tonnes of arms shipped by air cargo to southern Turkey to ISIS and co to be used in Syria,Iraq etc..Serbs are second to them.The region is now awash with thousand of tones of arms.To note is the selling by Ukis of Konkurs and Kornett.
Anonymous said :
“The ONLY possible way for the people of Novorussia to win this conflict would be to covertly travel to Kiev, and cut off the head of the serpent”.
The head of the serpent is in Washington.
The discrepancy in the number of transport planes shot down must mean that 3 planes have gone missing as a result of theft.
YY
Of Death and the Satanists:
Spare the ideology, and the historical relevance.
Just win the friggin war, kill the incubator of evil in Kiev, liquidate this generative cauldron of hate and violence and stop the Hegemon and the genocide.
Win the war. Destroy Ukraine as a nation. Break it into pieces. Crush the parts of it—the nazis, the mafia, the human organ traffickers, the corrupt politicians, the genocidal militarists, the rapists.
Win the war. Create a buffer of small federal units and build up the historic Russia with Odessa in the fold.
Win the war and prosecute the murderers, the war criminals, the profiteers, the assassins and traitors who revel in the blood of children and old people and innocents in their homes or at a market. They are terrorists hiding under the cloak of a phony government.
Win the war and defeat the sick minds of the West.
Dear Russian friends,
I found this documentary following the press conference of V.V.Putin published the other day. Any chance of getting this documentary subtitled? Or another on the same topic?
This looks very interesting and full, I am really interested in the history of the oligarchs from the Russian point of view. Although very long, would be willing to complete viewing it.
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFWsIN2W48Y#t=2981
Thank you very much in advance
Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts
August 3, 2014
Exclusive: From magazine covers to pronouncements by top politicians, Official Washington jumped to the conclusion that Ukrainian rebels and Russia were guilty in the shoot-down of a Malaysian passenger plane. But some U.S. intelligence analysts may see the evidence differently, writes Robert Parry.
By Robert Parry
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/03/flight-17-shoot-down-scenario-shifts/
As far as the struggle between the “good” guys versus the “bad” guys, here is a more realistic explanation of what is at stake in Donbas: for maps and charts, see the Russian version: http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/1963-istennye-celi-ukrainskogo-genocida-chast-2.html.
(May I suggest Saker to post the entire piece, Part I and II, in English translation.)
“The puzzle is how to redistribute the world according to gas (resources).
Let’s look at all the pieces. The battle is waged with one thing in mind – among others – and that is the energy crisis of 2030. It’s pretty simple: whoever can get his hands on where the resources are, wins. Whoever doesn’t make it, we’ll mourn him. So don’t expect a thing from the West. If they can bite off a chunk, they’ll take it, without regard for what is right or proper. That explains the steadfast position of the US and Europe, which appears a little inadequate but maybe it’s suitable for those who are heading toward a global energy crisis – there’ll be no mercy for those who stand back; they’ll just be the first to die.
SHALE GAS IN UKRAINE
The development of shale gas exploitation in Ukraine has begun in two regions: in the Olesskiy part (shown in pink) near the Lyublinsk basin, and
the Yuzovskiy part (shown in red or orange) near the Dnieprovsk-Donetsk basin. The yellow marks the actual basins.
The volume of the reserves, according to various statistics:
• Government geological services (2012) 7.0 trill cubic meters
• International energy agencies (EU, US) 1.2 trill. cubic m.
• Ukr. Min. for energy and coal production: 5.0 trill. cubic m.
The participation of Shell explains Europe’s position. Outwardly it seems that Europe is playing in tandem with the US to its own detriment, but that is not so. Shell is fundamentally a European company, and the main consumers of the potential shale gas are, too. They’re hoping to get gas from the Donbas for a price far lower than that of Gazprom. For that, a minimal investment is required – the transportation infrastructure is already in place. And that is why Europe will continue pushing this undying (and from the outside, absurd, although there is a certain logic to it) position on Ukraine. Since they’re always maneuvering to get gas the cheapest possible way, they hope to swallow up Ukraine in one piece. And when they pump the country dry, in 30-40 years, they’ll dump the skeleton in a landfill; anyone who wants it then, can have it. Now it’s a question of money. What’s cheaper? You can invest billions in laser fusion without any guarantees, Or you can put the same amount into developing shale gas, especially given that it’s situated very close to the highway that’s already in place to deliver gas to one of the largest consumers – Europe.” . . .
Well, it’s all fucked up but gotta say as a localized military plan, so far the Russian Federation is winning, scored Crimea without firing a shot, established a deniable front in Donbass that is eating up the economy and war materielle of the state formation known as Ukraine.
Playing the long game, only the US can accelerate the conflict and they will be met full on.
“The head of the serpent is in Washington.”
Yes, the main serpent’s head lies elsewhere, but are you so foolish you think the people of Novorussia have any chance of lopping off the main head?
Team Obama require their stooges in Kiev to have control over most of the country. A decapitation strike against key targets would leave Washington without their most important puppets, chaos would reign in Ukraine, and the centrally-organised Kiev war machine would break down.
Let me make this SIMPLE. Does America have major military forces in Ukraine? Of course not. This is a Washington operation, but Washington has anything but a free hand. You fight this form of war by cutting strings and destroying the puppets.
Putin is not going to save Novorussia- this is the only battleground fact that matters. But Novorussia fighters have the advantage of being able to take some form of fight to anywhere in Ukraine. Kiev is the weak spot, like that exhaust port on the Death Star.
PS type ‘Ukraine’ into Google and then click on the news tab. Wonder at the fantastic fantasy the vile zionists present as ‘news’ to 99.9% of Humanity. But where their lies go, so do their intents. The zionists are not messing about, nor are they intimidated by the keyboard support of the dwindling resistance forces of Novorussia.
They mean business, and their business is Holocaust, Genocide, and every other form of lesser evil that causes Human hurt.
Their tribe doesn’t fear ‘resistance’- they spent the entire 20th century worming their vile members into command and control positions for all the West’s information outlets. If a good person acts against the evil of their tribe, a ‘friend of Israel’ has that person demonised within the day. What the sheeple are made to think is better than the truth.
Outside of Russia, far less than 1% of Humanity knows the truth of events in Ukraine.
“Yes the main serpents head lies elsewhere but are you so foolish as to think the people of Novorussia have any chance of lopping off the main head ?”.
we shall see in due time then wont we ? When confronted with a many tentacled dragon such as Russia currently is in my opinion it is a complete waste of time and energy lopping off the dragons tentacles when it is far more efficient to kill the dragon by lopping off its head.
The satanists in washington have overreached themselves this time and gone one step too far. Their destruction is virtually guaranteed.
When the troops in the cauldron surrender MSM will not be able to hide this fact, they all said Damascus would fall in a week and then had to back peddle when that did not happen. It will be the same when 1500 prisoners are paraded on RT.
@Anonymous 01:20
You wrote:
“When the troops in the cauldron surrender MSM will not be able to hide this fact, they all said Damascus would fall in a week and then had to back peddle when that did not happen. It will be the same when 1500 prisoners are paraded on RT.”
The MSM will not show this.
A major land war is taking place in Europe and they are covering it up. All bets are off now.
@Dacian,
Sadly the shale gas rush is, and has been shown to. Be a bust. Take a few and type “shale gas bubble emails” into any search engine and you may see that even the wells that have produced, are rapidly depleted.
Unlike real “oil” wells that slowly progress to unprofitable ober 40-60 yrs, shale gas pretty much runs dry very rapidly and sharply, thus unprofitable, within 5-10 yrs. What we are seeing is simply flipping wells in much the same way investors are flipping condos.
Sure the speculative numbers look impressive on paper using Babylonean math, but using real math the numbers never add up over time, period.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/03/us-urkaine-crisis-east-idUSKBN0G207E20140803
Reuters apparently lying big time, not far from the lead:
“The army has all but encircled the other main rebel redoubt of Luhansk, [BS] where three civilians were killed in the latest fighting, and is trying to tighten the noose around Donetsk.”
And repeating Kiev’s lies, although this one is less brazen:
“A military spokesman in the Ukrainian capital Kiev told a briefing the army had now recaptured three-quarters of the territory the rebels once controlled in their self-proclaimed ‘people’s republics’ of Luhansk and Donetsk.”
And the biggest whopper of all:
“The Ukrainian military said it had suffered no losses in the latest fighting.”
The Ukies must be desperate for some positive news after Friday’s losses for the 25th AirMobile, even if they have to fake the ‘good news’ for their troops.
The US government is a menace to mankind.
It’s stooges in EU and its hit men in NATO are criminals, satanists and degenerates.
They have dominated the 21st Century with the worst kinetic warfare seen in small places like Syria, Iraq and Libya. Now we see that kinetic force hitting Gaza. To kill a few hundred, the weapons kill thousands. It’s like that in Novorossiya. To kill small groupings of militia, the junta destroys whole villages and towns.
Imagine if China did this to Japan on those disputed islands. Or if Russia did to Kiev what Kiev is doing to Donetsk and Lugansk.
The outrage would be a deluge of scorn and threats. But for the Hegemon and its vassal states, they operate with moral impunity.
The moral right to life is not questionable. Thus, this inalienable right, this universal human right cannot be reduced or fractured.
However, there is a global threat from the Hegemon to that right to life. And only one path to secure the right to life exists. The Elite Liberals and Satanists of the Hegemon have to be liquidated. Begin with the proxies and stooges, and work to the source. This Hegemonic fascism cannot be allowed to continue its cancerous growth. It will consume the world in its madness and greed.
No compromise. No negotiation. No equivocation. The Tyranny ends when the Tyrant is slain.
While the worlds eyes stay focused on Gaza, it seems as if Poland is feeling left out and really wants some Ukie action and real quick…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/03/polish-foreign-minister-nato_n_5645796.html
Can anyone translate the photo? Looks like a young Ukie conscript all ready for war based on the crap he has been fed. The “after” picture is he is starving and crying in the forest?
What a tragedy. All Zato, US State Dept., Obama and McCain working for Soros and the oligarchs. Sickening. The people who caused this should burn in hell. innocent people on both sides dying while Kiev oligarchs who are dual citizens of Israel eat steak and lobster.
@American Kulak said,
Always lookout for your comments and weblinks. Keep postings. Thanks
JC
Don’t ever underestimate the human factor..”No Afghanistan in Ukraine” is the slogan in some of the village protests against the conscription. As for people not rushing to join the militias–they will join or they will be killed by the Kiev fascists. they will “get it” soon enough.
Europe–the French are furious about the fines placed on them by the American banks for not following politically motivated sanctions in Africa and Iran. What the NY Banks do is refuse to provide dollars for international transactions—this is how these obscene “sanctions” are enforced. What does that do? Accelerate the decline of the dollar as common currency.
Supposedly the Russian people do not support any armed intervention into the Ukraine—well they are about to have 500,000 refugees from Donbass distributed among them. This might have an effect sooner or later.
American people–hopefully there will be scrutiny of the Terms and conditions of the California National Guard being sent to train one side in a civil war. Trying my best here to bring this up.
Dear Editor:
It has come to my attention that the California National Guard has been scheduled to be sent to the Ukraine to train their forces. There has been a coup in Kiev and a consequent civil war. It is questionable whether this Kiev-based National Guard is indeed a National Guard in our concept i.e. freely recruited from ordinary people. On the contrary, members of far right street gangs flocked to that organization in droves and are being used to put down an internal revolt in the SE of the Ukraine.
I find it questionable and repugnant that my tax dollars are being used to send a force that should be available for possible service in emergency situations here in California. To be dabbling in foreign, unstable situations or possibly helping a repressive regime in the Ukraine is not my idea of what we should be doing with our National Guard.
Thanks for translating these two reports.
From the sound of both of these, the banderivtsy have crested and are now beginning to decline. Their tactics are appalling for an army, and their leadership must be an historical record of ineptitude. As much of this so-called Ukrainian army is lead by NATO/American officers (certainly the upper level is), this really shows how dismal the state of the west’s military leadership is. What the Novorussian militias have accomplished so far is simply amazing, given how outnumbered and out hardwared they’ve been. This is why that despite the odds against them, and the regular “doom and gloom” reporting, I’m still optimistic the Novorussian militias will be able to prevail.
вот так
@Anynymous4:02,
Go to LiveLeak and there is a video with english subtitles of when he was captured , also youtube “Antimaidan” you will see him there too among other great videos you will never find in the mainstream media .
@ Anon 04 August, 2014 04:33
If you’re a Californian, it may be time to start protesting against the Cali NG deployment to help the Ukrainian Nazi Guard outside your local guard base gate. Bring copies of photos of the Azov Battalion in full SS Wolfsangel armband regalia and see if you can blow up the images onto signs saying ‘NO California taxpayer money to train Nazis’. Send a press release to the local ADL and Simon Weisenthal Center if the Guard Base protest is near LA or SF.
If nothing else it might get covered by a local network affiliate. That’s a good place to start, you can even try to recruit the local anti-war and Code Pink groups and have them join arms and bring their respective signs (at least on this issue) with the ‘bring the troops home’ Tea Partyers. Call it an antiwar coalition of the willing (here’s looking at you Nora :)
Over 400 Ukrainian troops cross into Russia for refuge
http://rt.com/news/177740-ukrainian-military-russia-refuge/
More than 400 Ukrainian servicemen ask for asylum in Russia
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/743407
Some news from Transcarpathia
# LUCMICHEL.NET/ UKRAINE IMPLOSES: HERE IS TRANSCARPATHIA THAT DECLARES IT’S INDEPENDENCE!
Posted on 2014/08/03 by Luc MICHEL
Ukraine is an artificial state where ethnic Ukrainians (in the west) are a minority in a pseudo « state » they want mono-ethnic …
George Bush (father) already said in Kiev in 1991 that « Ukrainian nationalism was suicidal. »
Lugansk and Donetsk proclaimed independent republics and undergo a dirty war desired by the IMF – which makes of it the condition of its usurious loans – the USA, the EU and NATO.
Odessa, Kharkov and Dniepropretrovsk were prevented [of becoming republics] by the terror of the National Guard (fascists of SVOBODA and neo-Nazis of PRAVIY SEKTOR) and special battalions of criminal oligarch Kolomoisky. The anti-Ukrainian hate is smoldering there under repression.
The revival of “Novorossia » of Catherine the Great is an idea that can no longer be stifled!
In the west, the Romanian minorities (Tchernovisty) are in the street and refuse to allow their children to be mobilized in the Donbass. Bucharest supports them and has designs on the region.
Only the Polish minorities of the west remain anesthetized by both fear of mass pogroms of the Poles by Banderists in 1941-44 and their abandonment by Warsaw. The Polish right-wing government, model poodle of the US, has indeed cowardly abandoned its minorities in Ukraine and supports the Banderist Kiev junta and the dirty war led in the Donbass.
It is now Transcarpathia, which has proclaimed its independence and is in insurrection, as we already announced it 48 hours ago!
The « Transcarpathian Rus » (Uzhgorod, Mukachevo, etc) is more and more opposed to the junta in Kiev. The head of the local administration in Uzhgorod, the regional capital, was seized by the separatists (Russian-Hungarian) today in their revolt against the ruling clique of local oligarchs who support the junta. The main roads are also under control.
Budapest, where Orban has undertaken a geopolitical revolution (discussed too little) from within the EU-NATO bloc and now looks toward Moscow and Eurasianism, supports underhand the motion. There it will be harder to fight a war of terror and extermination as in the Donbass …
But that you never read it in the NATO’s medias !
Luc MICHEL
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i don’t know what is the purpose of this analysis? to tell them ukraine nazis where they were wrong in its military actions? if that’s the case, better stop…explaining them what they were doing wrong, and how to do it better against the people of novorusija are not smart things in my book…
Over 400 Ukrainian soldiers flee to Russia, ask for refuge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-OsrCkXTNY
AK, if you’re still around,
First off, great to see you commenting again — you were missed.
And secondly, YESSSSS! That is just an absolutely TERRIFIC idea — the only thing I could possibly add would be the impact of various retired/inactive folks, In. Their. Uniforms. The Guard, for gosh sakes, has been called out more than once to help fighting wildires, and the entire state is bone dry as I type this. What a GREAT idea to send them elsewhere. /way beyond sarcasm
Dacian said…
Question: To what extent can anyone conceive that the Khazars/Zionists are indeed being set up for the next Nüremberg trial? It looks more likely by the day. Set up by whom? By the “deeper state”, deeper than the deep state. Deeper.Global.Elite. Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility. Has anyone thought of that?
Dearest Dacian,
I am saying the same thing, but in a different way, saying that, “both Obama and Putin are in cahoots”.
Best regards,
Mohamed.
Luc MICHEL,
WOW!
God Bless you, and may you succeed! :~)
This could be very nasty
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140804/191712845/Ukrainian-Army-Amasses-Ballistic-Missiles-MLRS-Near-Donetsk.html