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Ukraine is losing the south of Kharkov

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  1. Emmett Pierce on September 13, 2022  ·  at 7:50 pm EST/EDT

    WORLD
    HAL TURNER
    13 SEPTEMBER 2022
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    Ukraine’s sponsors have been given TWO tough ultimatums; One from Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, the other from Russian Council Member Dmitry Medvedev . . .

    “The one-time success at the front [Last week] is only beautifully shown in the press. The death toll along the entire line of clashes has exceeded ten thousand {Ukrainians], the wounded fill all hospitals, there is a shortage of ambulances. The [Russian] Allied forces put the Nazis in one fight by the hundreds. And then the political situation deteriorated. There were rumors in Ukraine that it was Russia who “retreated” to make a camouflage maneuver before something grandiose.

    While the “patriots” were waiting for a respite, Russia hit the power facilities. Earlier, Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhny reported to Zelensky about the formation of a large naval group of the Russian Navy in the Black Sea, including amphibious assault ships.

    The West fears that the failure of the grain scam is to blame.

    First, Putin pointed out at the WEF that Russia and poor countries were deceived in the grain deal. Then Erdogan admitted it. The UN Secretary General also had to admit this, although an attempt was made to wriggle out. In the USA, they said that everything was fine, but soon their experts still recognized the lack of proper effect from the increase in grain on the market.

    Ukraine and more of its sponsors, apparently, have been given a tough ultimatum: either grain goes to Africa, and Russia opens an international food market, or the Russian Navy again blocks Ukrainian ports, but this time with the landing of [Russian] troops with the destruction of the entire port infrastructure. In parallel, the entire Ukrainian infrastructure will “lie down”. How this will approximately happen has already been shown. It could be said that it was a hint about the consequences if Russia’s interests were ignored.”

    — Sergey Lavrov

    While Foreign Minister Lavrov focused on the Grain Scam, where out of 87 Cargo vessels filled with Ukrainian grain, only TWO vessels went to “needy” countries — the rest went to Europe – below is a much more blunt warning from former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

    As you will read, Medvedev is openly warning NATO that if they continue pouring weapons into Ukraine to kill Russians, then the borders of NATO countries will “disappear” and the Russian Army will commence operations!

    Here is Medvedev’s statement:

    The Kiev camarilla gave birth to the project of “security guarantees”, which in fact are a prologue to the Third World War. Of course, no one will give any “guarantees” to the Ukrainian Nazis. After all, this is almost the same as applying Article 5 of the North Atlantic Pact (Washington Treaty) to Ukraine. For NATO, it’s the same, only side view. That’s why it’s scary.

    Our sworn friends – Western bosses of various calibres, to whom this hysterical appeal is addressed – must finally understand one simple thing. It directly concerns the hybrid war between NATO and Russia. If these idiots continue the unrestrained pumping of the Kiev regime with the most dangerous types of weapons, then sooner or later the military campaign will move to another level. Visible borders and potential predictability of the actions of the parties to the conflict will disappear from it. It will follow its own military scenario, involving new participants in it. It has always been so. (Emphasis added by HTRS)

    And then Western countries will not be able to sit in their clean houses and apartments, laughing at how they are carefully weakening Russia with someone else’s hands. Everything will catch fire around them. Their people will grab grief in full. They will literally have the earth burning and concrete melting. We’ll get a lot of it, too. It will be very, very bad for everyone. After all, it is said: “From these three plagues, from fire, smoke and brimstone coming out of their mouths, a third part of the people died” (Rev 9:18).

    But while the narrow-minded politicians and their dim-witted think tanks, thoughtfully twirling a glass of wine in their hands, talk about how they can deal with us without entering into a direct war. Dull idiots with a classical education.

    — Dmitry Medvedev

    HAL TURNER ANALYSIS AND EDITORIAL OPINION

    Medvedev makes no secret of his NUCLEAR threat. When he wrote “Everything will catch fire around them” and “They will literally have the earth burning and concrete melting.” he is clearly and unambiguously referring to exactly what takes place upon a NUCLEAR explosion.

    We in the West are being warned, yet again, that the actions WE are undertaking, will result in US getting hit by Russian nuclear weapons!

    How much more forthright can the Russians be? They are telling us what will happen. They have warned us over, and over, and over again, since their Special Military Operations began in February, yet our Public Servants in government seem to laugh it all off as some sort of “posturing.”

    In my assessment, it is not posturing – at all.

    It seems to me the public servants of government here in the USA and over in Europe aren’t going to believe they are causing us all the possibility of nuclear annihilation, until an actual nuclear bomb flies through their window and blows their asses to Kingdom Come!

    By continuing to supply ever more lethal weaponry to Ukraine, the public servants in government both here in the USA and over in Europe are going to get a lot of us killed. They should stop what they’re doing and let Ukraine fall.

    • Joy on September 13, 2022  ·  at 10:29 pm EST/EDT

      The Medvedev quote is legitimate and posted on his Telegram channel. But, Medvedev lately has taken on a role of saying outrageous things, and in this capacity speaks only for himself, not the RF government. So it is just colourful rhetoric from a politician.
      https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/177 (in Russian)

      However, the Lavrov quote is a FAKE, it is fan fiction on a single social media site post. Definitely NOT the words of Lavrov. Link to the sole source of this statement (in Russian):
      https://ok.ru/nepokoryonnaiarossiya/topic/154636408378269

      • grr on September 14, 2022  ·  at 2:55 am EST/EDT

        Hal Turner website is never to be trusted. It’s the equivalent of a London tabloid.

        • AHH on September 14, 2022  ·  at 6:29 am EST/EDT

          Joy,

          Thanks for clarification on Lavrov. However Medvedev doesn’t trigger the West out of personal whim… As the “Deputy Chairman of the Security Council” STAVKA and Leader of the dominant ruling United Russia party, and during an existential world war, we can be sure every letter he tweets is weighed and vetted.

          He serves as Bad Cop in this phase to provide Russia significant political and PR room. Much of the usual diplomatic channels at the state and personal levels were severed.. so public messaging it often is, whether kinetic or tweets, two mediums highly receptive in the fallen West..

          Further he is calculated to enrage Russian enemies to mindlessness — he is a doppelgänger of the last Czar they’d assassinated and a liberal globalist formerly close to western elites.. — making his daily bitch-slaps that much more salty!

          Last, happy birthday to him today September 14, one day closer in our intrepid September countdown!

          grr, please have a heart. What would life be without a little spice? 😔 Hal T is also an invaluable PR organ, sometimes presignaling events to come if you can read between the lines.. Often I visit him before this site!

          • Emmett Pierce on September 14, 2022  ·  at 6:23 pm EST/EDT

            World
            Russia strikes Reservoir Dam; Sends water Surging downstream
            WORLD
            HAL TURNER
            14 SEPTEMBER 2022
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            The Russian army launched a missile attack on Kryvyi Rih, the hometown of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. There were two attacks, the local administration did not announce in which parts of the city the defeats took place.

            Military observers tweeted that Tu-95MS strategic (and nuclear) bombers attacked dams and reservoirs in Ukraine with Kh-101 missiles, which have a range of 5,500 km and carry 500 kg of explosive warheads. The deputy head of the presidential administration in Kyiv, Kiril Tymoshenko, announced that a total of 8 rockets were fired at Kryvyi Rih.

            Some missiles hit below the waterline of the dam across the Ingulets river. The impact severely damaged the dam and the water level in the Ingulets river is now surging – severely as seen in the video below:

            Electricity and fresh water is now cut-off in Kryvyi Rih.

            This is now the second large demonstration of what Russia is capable of doing to Ukrainian infrastructure; the first being missile strikes against electrical stations a few days ago.

            Unlike the electric grid, which was re-routed, there’s no way to make a quick fix to this dam.
            PS: there’s a video of this but I don’t know how to post it..

      • Pavel on September 15, 2022  ·  at 2:58 pm EST/EDT

        Russia continues working within the Joint Coordination Centre in Istanbul for facilitating grain exports from the Ukrainian ports. Since August 1, 2022, 12 ships carrying 375,000 tonnes of agricultural products have left these ports. We must emphasise that the Russian Defence Ministry kept the maritime humanitarian corridors open long before the grain export deal was reached. These corridors have now been extended to 307 nautical miles, and operate around the clock.
        We have taken note of the situation with bulk carrier Razoni, which left Odessa on August 1, 2022, for Tripoli, Lebanon, with a shipment of grain. It turned out that it carried fodder corn instead of the wheat which the Lebanese needed. The buyer in Tripoli refused to take this corn, and the ship is now waiting for new buyers.
        Unfortunately, not a single vessel carrying grain has so far reached the African and South Asian countries, where people are suffering from hunger. The ships are mostly heading to Western ports, carrying corn and sunflower oil, not wheat, which raises questions about the sincerity of what the West has been saying about the grain deal being instrumental for global food security.
        The Australian National Review exposed another telling aspect. According to this media outlet, three major US transnational corporations – food and chemical giants Cargill, Dupont and Monsanto – own 17 million out of 64 million hectares of cropland in Ukraine. These are the companies growing wheat in Ukraine, and they are the ones selling it.
        Let me remind you that the package of documents signed in Istanbul included agreements on grain exports from three Ukrainian ports which started a week and a half ago, as well as on selling Russian food products and fertiliser on the global market. So far, the latter provision has not been carried out. We hope that all the agreements included in this package will fully materialise and the Western countries create the necessary conditions for enabling Russian fertiliser and food to access the global market.

        See Briefing by Deputy Director of the Foreign Ministry Information and Press Department Ivan Nechayev, Moscow, August 11, 2022 https://mid.ru/ru/press_service/spokesman/briefings/1825841/?lang=en

  2. Surferket on September 13, 2022  ·  at 8:17 pm EST/EDT

    The right thing to do is shut down the railways and power stations right at the border where NATO is now openly sending long trains full of artillery and tanks across the Polish borders. It’s idiocy to let them send all the hardware to the front lines and then attempt to smash them.
    Such one-handed fighting cost both pro Russia civilians and Russian soldiers lives.

    • s.a.t. on September 13, 2022  ·  at 8:46 pm EST/EDT

      I have written this in various places for months. Why make it easy to transport materiel and troops ? Ofcourse there will be attempts to repair roads or take alternative roads but restoring railroads after being hit in several places will prove more difficult and can be monitored easily. A second strike can undo all repairs within minutes.

      I am also amazed that there are still radars and airfields in operable state they should have been destroyed long time ago. The russian MOD is lazy with the airforce.

      • SoTexGuy on September 14, 2022  ·  at 9:15 am EST/EDT

        My guess is much of Ukraine outside the conflict areas is bristling with portable and stationary anti-aircraft defenses, active and passive. Some of it surely top US and Western design and operated by capable US and NATO saboteurs. Russian is reluctant to seeing even one of it’s first-line attack aircraft smoldering on the ground, it’s pilots crucified and their bodies desecrated on video by the Nazis.. Along with Moscow’s belief in a limited war. Of course there are always missiles? Thanks.

    • Bones on September 13, 2022  ·  at 10:16 pm EST/EDT

      If you wanted to de-Nazify Europe, why would you stop it? I’d let it simmer before I cleaned all of their clocks.

    • Erebus on September 14, 2022  ·  at 1:03 am EST/EDT

      Why? Because it’s easier to blow that stuff up in your front yard when it’s handled by semi-trained personnel, than to have to blow it up in some distant theatre when handled by fully trained personnel. An order of magnitude easier.

      Not only UA is being de-militarized. NATO’s arsenals have largely been emptied and delivered to the scrap-yards of eastern Ukraine. It will take years for NATO to replenish the lost materiel. Until then, NATO is truly no more than a “parade ground army”, and maybe not even that. Given the economic disaster facing Europe and to a lesser extent the USA, NATO may in fact never recover.

      The real danger is that most of whatever is not making it to the front due to the (too) widely reported “corruption” is in fact being stockpiled/pre-positioned in UA for a future NATO war to be launched from eastern Poland/rump UA. The Kremlin should be paying close attention to that.

      • Gryunt Scarhide on September 14, 2022  ·  at 8:50 am EST/EDT

        “It will take years for NATO to replenish the lost materiel.”

        Will they ever? In all the talk about their energy problems, sometimes overlooked is the fact that the West is also suffering from a still-declining industry base and, more dangerously, a rapidly-shrinking pool of truly skilled labor as the DIE and ESG fanatics continue to their financial warfare against anything actually useful.

  3. pablozz on September 13, 2022  ·  at 8:18 pm EST/EDT

    can someone inform me about ukraines power. Was the electricity grid completely taken out after the initial first hits. There was some restoration of power and internet, then i heard there were further attacks. Havent heard a summary of where its at today. i did hear there was equiptment and manpower moved up to the front by rail so im a little confused as i thought the elec grid was to be taken out totally

    • s.a.t. on September 13, 2022  ·  at 8:47 pm EST/EDT

      I doubt the russians will strike nuclear powerplants. But they can strike powerlines coming from them.

      • Alex on September 14, 2022  ·  at 2:47 am EST/EDT

        No, in some cases that is the same as striking the nuclear plant itself.
        Some designs need an external connection to the grid to run or for some functions such as safely shutting down, seen in Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant

        • ZOFH on September 15, 2022  ·  at 3:52 am EST/EDT

          @Alex: It’s facts like these that drive me nuts, that the world is still running on stoneage uranium reactors that are literal pressure bombs waiting to go off, and require external power to shut down safely, when alternative nuclear technologies without any of those problems have been known for half a century.

  4. Carl on September 13, 2022  ·  at 8:20 pm EST/EDT

    The north holding then fast retreat was a Rooskie plot to distract the Bandera and now them Rooskies will make a dive to surround Odessa before autumn mud?

  5. andrew on September 13, 2022  ·  at 10:29 pm EST/EDT

    it all sounds ominous.
    the medvedev quote is from his telegram account if it is his own and as well an RT interview featuring that quote.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/562734-medvedev-apocalypse-revelation-ukraine/

    The lavrov quote i cannot locate.
    please see if you can find and quote the original lavrov quote.
    provable primary sources are essential to research.

    it also appears that go. oo1gl. .e. is censoring searches on the subject.

    i am wary and weary of hal turner. i have noted his poorly researched ideas that make the rounds.

    • Joy on September 14, 2022  ·  at 2:40 am EST/EDT

      @Andrew: The Lavrov “quote” was a hoax on a single social media site, ok.ru, see my post at the top of the thread with linked url. It is every bit as fake as it reads. If Lavrov had actually said anything like that it would have been headline news worldwide.
      OTOH, since Medvedev’s demotion, (no longer next in line of succession) he has struggled to remain relevant by becoming a shit poster on Telegram. Back in February, Medvedev was still looking west and his son was in University in the USA. Either Medvedev suddenly is a born again Russian nationalist and war hawk or a political opportunist, take your pick.

  6. Andalusian on September 14, 2022  ·  at 10:03 pm EST/EDT

    Tucker Carlson may be voice of sanity when it comes to Russia, but when it comes to China his sanity vanishes. On China he is the same as Russophobes to Russia. I do not like neither do I trust this guy.

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