The first day of what will become the Ukrainian Civil war has finished and since by tomorrow morning a lot can happen, I have decided to provide this intermediate SITREP update tonight rather than to wait for tomorrow.
The short summary of the day is: absolute chaos and local violence.
A couple of things stand out:
- The same source who reported that the CIA Director John Brennan visited Kiev on Sunday or Monday also say that the US plan is to use the Ukrainian military to blockade the rebel cities and to use special units (national guard, SBU SWAT, a newly created unit called “Shtorm” and Right Sector gangs) to actually do the repression.
- In a rather bizarre incident, some Ukrainian officers were told that 30 armed terrorists had seized an airport near Kramatorsk. They landed there supported by APCs and helicopters only to find out that only civilians were present. Rumors say that “several” to “eleven” civilians were killed in that operation. The amazing thing is that the officers really seemed to believe that they would be fighting some kind of military force. When they realize that this was not the case, most of the forces were evacuated and only a smaller force was left at the airport. It is currently surrounded by civilians who are blocking all exists.
- Same thing happened to the recon battalion of the 24th Airborne Division which was sent in to locate “terrorists”. When the saw that only civilians were present they refused to continue their mission, turned around and left.
- A convoy of Right Sector militants disguised as pro-Russian forces (they were wearing Saint George ribbons) were stop and searched by civilians. Soon, after some brutal interrogations the truth became obvious, the trucks full of weapons confiscated and the drivers beat up.
- In Kiev the Right Sector has given the so-called President and his regime 24 hours to take action. If not, they promised to overthrow him. In other words, the small, disorganized and demoralized leftover of the Ukrainian police now might be told to put down both the Russian-speakers in the East and the Galician freaks in Kiev.
- As for the always amazing White House, its press secretary has declared that the USA “praises” the neo-Fascist regime for its “restraint”.
Okay, so what is really going on here?
The Ukrainian military is told that it has to stop “terrorists”. Regardless of whether they believe it or not, the Ukrainian commanding officers are more or less willing to execute that order. What they seem to be unwilling to do is kill many civilians or, even less so, take a city by force. So they stop in the outskirts and conduct very tense and unpleasant dialog with very hostile and suspicious civilians.
The Ukrainian security services are probably more willing to shoot civilians, but they seem to be really weary of entering the rebel cities, and I can’t blame them. Unlike most of the barricades around the cities which are manned with civilians (including women and senior folks), some barricades and buildings inside the city are defended by armed men, some definitely with military experience, and supported by many civilian demonstrators. Any SBU force seen shooting civilians risks being killed by a lynch mob.
The Right Sector thugs would love to kill as many of the accursed Moskals as possible, but they have neither the training nor the numbers to seize a town. And should they be caught they have no hope whatsoever to make it out alive. They will be literally torn into pieces by the locals.
So, to sum it up so far:
1) The Ukrainian military only pretends to participate in the so-called anti-terrorist operation. While some units from Galicia might try it, most units are probably unwilling to shoot many civilians.
2) The cops, SWAT teams and SBU special forces probably would not mind shooting into a crowd, but they would be fearful to enter inside the urban environment of a city and storm buildings while having a furious mob all around them.
3) As for the neo-Nazi thugs and common criminals hired by the oligarchs, they have neither the training nor the means to put down a city.
Thus, the first day of that civil war is one of total chaos and confusion with only localized violence. Even if 11 civilians were killed, this is nothing compared with what would happen in the Ukrainian military decided to attack a city with Multiple Rocket Launchers like the Georgian did with Tskhinval in 08.08.08.
A few words about the Russian speaking opposition now.
I have watched as much video footage today as I could and here is what I see:
1) Lots of real civilians, unarmed, including women and seniors. They seem both frightened and very angry. Their plan is to form a human shield to stop the Fascist assault.
2) Lots of determined and solid looking men, many of the coal-mine workers. They are armed with metal rods, sticks and a few Molotov cocktails. Any trained force armed with real assault rifles could easily kill them, but they would probably make minced meat our of Right Sector thugs. These are simple but *very* tough men, and boy do they look mad….
3) An assortment of self-organized armed groups, mostly equipped with handguns and assault rifles, they have some real firepower, but are poorly trained and poorly commanded. They could not stop a determined assault either, but they could provide enough firepower locally to scare off the cops.
4) A few small groups (3-5 men) here and there who look like they know what they are doing. Some are former paratroopers, others have served in other well-trained units. They seem to be trying hard to get a more or less organized resistance going and they probably could mount an intelligent attack on an enemy column (as happened over the week-end in one case). I don’t think that these groups are very numerous, but they could show up anywhere and they are therefore a real threat to any attacking force.
Taken separately, none of these defenders amount to much of a force to protect even a small city. However, the combination of these very different type of defenders might present a real problem for the Ukrainian command, especially considering the morale problems on the Ukrainian side and what appears to be a fierce determination triggered by rage and fear by the Russian-speakers.
Besides, urban assault operations are always and inherently very difficult and very dangerous. During such operations the most typical scenario is one where the initial attack appears easy and victorious and then all hell breaks lose and what appeared to be a success turns into a nightmare. It takes not only a lot of firepower to prevail in an urban environment, but also a very strong determination and the willingness to kill a lot of civilians. In the eastern Ukraine almost every civilian runs around with a cellphone or camera so there are “eyes” everywhere and every event is filmed, some are even streamed live on the Internet. Not good for the attackers either.
One more thing: I think that a red line has been crossed today and that now that the entire population in the eastern Ukraine has been assimilated to “terrorists” while the two main candidates to the Presidential elections have been assaulted (and one, Tsarev, charged with, I kid you not, hooliganism and sedition!) there are no more hopes for a federalized unitary Ukrainian state. When civilians were shot today in an official and authorized army attack, which was ordered by the so-called “interim President” and which was praised by the USA for its “restraint” a qualitative change in the struggle occurred. Short of a miracle, my personal conclusion is that Ukrainian experiment has crashed and burned. It’s over for “the Ukraine”.
For several days I have spoken of an “escape velocity” and I think that today it was reached. To paraphrase a well-known English nursery rhyme:
The Independent Ukraine sat on a wall,
The Independent Ukraine had a great fall.
All the West’s money and all the West’s men
Couldn’t put that Ukraine back together again
The only question now is what human price will the West and its neo-Nazi puppets in Kiev extract from the Ukrainian people before accepting the inevitable?
Stay tuned.
The Saker
very symbolical video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF5INBiylgs#t=30
12:51 GMT:
The Donetsk Region has defined the questions to be put on the May 11 referendum, stated regional Councilor Irina Popova. There will be just two of them:
1) Do you support the creation of an independent Donetsk Republic?
2) Of which state should a Donetsk Republic be part of: Ukraine or the Russian Federation?
The Central Election Commission of Donetsk Region has already been allocated a headquarters building next to the regional government administration and is currently forming the list of members.
12:36 GMT:
Around 60 soldiers manning Ukrainian armored vehicles sent to Kramatorsk to carry out military operations against anti-government protesters have switched sides and joined the local self-defense forces, RIA Novosti reports, citing the self-defense forces.
“We’ve seen here that these are neither separatists nor terrorists, but ordinary local residents, with whom we are not going to go into battle,” one of the defecting soldiers said.
All of the troops who decided to side with the self-defense forces come from Dnepropetrovsk, the next-door region to Donetsk.
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
Great piece just up at RT on the army units in Kramatorsk switching sides. http://rt.com/news/ukrainian-tanks-kramatorsk-civilians-840/ There is the most stirring video in here of the six tank crews and the response of the public. The decency of these soldiers is very striking, as is/was that of the Berkut; I do not believe we have, or would, see that here in the US.
I swear to God that what I wrote above about the real issue being Putin I wrote before I saw this (an editorial in that voice of reason and fact, The New York Times):
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/opinion/mr-putins-power-play.html
Now, tell me that I am wrong that this is all about Putin. All.
And it is truly amazing. The entire Western press allied against one man. Press. Not people. Wow.
Anonymous @ 8:29
Yes. And again, I swear I hear American inflections in some of the background talk.
But, even supposing it is a ruse, the longer the pseudo-defected soldiers interact with the people — and see and hear about what’s really going on — the more difficult it will be to go back into formation and, you know, kill them. Making contact, building bridges, literally starting with just eye contact, with hostage-takers is always Step One of resolving a hostage situation. And the more these guys see all they’ve got in common with the people, the easier it will be for them to disobey (American) orders.
Evil is england and surprisingly enland is the most easy target forrusdiato neutrise by nuking coward english racewho can not fight but plot all wars to be fought by their patdies.
do the only solution is to stop delkvrring gasto england kill all english journalis spies and Nuke England.
Interesting article I just found by chance:
http://www.naiz.info/eu/hemeroteca/gara/editions/gara_2014-04-15-07-00/hemeroteca_articles/guerra-de-oligarcas-en-ucrania
People of Kramatorsk feed the defecting Soldiers
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HSFa8nXjMMQ&feature=player_embedded
let that be a lesson: feed an army or they may leave
The real event in the World now would thanks to Ukraine would Russia opt out of the global Petro-Dollar system ?
The renowned Political economist Paul Craig Roberts thinks so.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/04/09/us-world-coming-end-paul-craig-roberts/
The US would also be fighting tooth and nail not only to preserve the Petro-Dollar but also boot out Russia from European energy markets.
As Pepe Escobar believes here.
http://atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-03-150414.html
So which agenda would triumph ? Would it be the US or the Russian agenda ?
These two competing agendas are the real factors in my view behind the current situation in Ukraine.
What do you think about it ?
I would love your views on the same.
Take care
Debanjan
“The only question now is what human price will the West and its neo-Nazi puppets in Kiev extract from the Ukrainian people before accepting the inevitable?”
The answer:
The sky is the limit.
Just one similar setup:
In 1940 – after the fall of
1. Poland
2. France
3. Norway
4. Denmark
5. Serbia
6. Greece –
the German high command asked the very same question:
“When will England finally accept the inevitable and seriously start negotiating (about the Danzig corridor etc.)?”
The answer then as now is:
1. as soon as the Anglos get the war they always wanted
2. as soon as they loose it.
The war they want today is “Russia in Afghanistan II”.
Brzezsinski’s biggest personal triumph is up for a rerun in the heartland. They will have as many people killed as it takes for Putin to sign the marching orders. After that manpads, mercs and every conceivable support will be delivered to Ukraine’s “freedom fighters”.
Unless there is a counter coup in Kiev the only way to avoid this is to increase the direct risk for the empire.
“There is no large Russian military presence in East Ukraine, head of EU intelligence, Commodore Georgij Alafuzoff, has said. The spy chief has dismissed multiple accusations from the West alleging Russian involvement in the unrest in the region.”
http://rt.com/news/eu-no-russian-interference-ukraine-844/
“Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine have falsely claimed to be under attack to justify Russian involvement, a report by the U.N. human rights office said on Tuesday.”
I also thought this was sick. People have been killed, wounded, and drug off to dungeons in Kiev because of their political stance against an illegal coup government. Saying that doesn’t measure up to some fake standard of “under attack” is just revolting, as is the minimization of it by linking it to “justifying Russian involvement”. Uh no, you can’t read those people’s minds, and they have a right to speak out about their own situation. Let this UN guy suffer the same treatment in his home, see how he likes “not being under attack”.
This is one step removed from Israeli “Palestinians just say they are being genocided because they hate Jews”. Or AmeriKKKan Slaver: “Blacks just love slavery, they are just confused when they rebel against it.”
No, definitively it isn’t about one man, Mr Putin.
It is about the majority in the West living under the jack boot of the New World Order, and how Russia is becoming a place for all the discontented in the West to defect to.
Consider Mr Snowden.
The New World Order’s number one enemy is the people of the West. Mr Putin is merely using that fact to his advantage.
and they wonder why noone loves them! #charming
‘The ukranian neonazis left these inscriptions on the walls of Nikolaev: “7 days left, the revenge will come”, “Slaughter Moscovites”, “Hang communistst”
https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/pcb.1489735624583118/1489731437916870/?type=1&theater
Just for the record, the “UN Assistant Secretary-General for Human Rights” is Ivan Shimonovich, & here is a self-explanatory excerpt from his bio from wiki:
“Šimonović joined Croatian diplomacy after the break-up of
Yugoslavia.
He was an assistant to Foreign Minister Mate Granić during the 1990s, although he never joined the ruling party, the Croatian Democratic Union
(HDZ).
In 1997, Croatian President
Franjo Tuđman named him ambassador to the United Nations (!).
[2][3]
Šimonović served there until 2002.”
During this period, Croatia ethnically cleansed almost all Serbs, from 12% of population down to < 4% today.
Let me remind you that Serbs comprised 38% of the population before the WWII.
In fact, Ukraine is nothing but (an attempt of) Croatia 2.0.
Sending this “Assistant Secretary-General for Human Rights” to Ukraine would be identical to sending an Israeli one to Syria, or a British one to Iraq, or a Turk one to Kosovo, or a Polish one to Belorus, or .
Ergo, I am surprised that people here are surprised:).
Its all about Putin just as its all about Assad as its been all about Chavez … Its eastern to target one man than a whole political realm . Also with the leader gone states tend to return to old habits of infighting corruption power seeking . Putin is seen as a threat by the faceless men because around his figure so many ideals coalesce and people feel a positive energy that lesser leaders don’t emanate
I translated it and it’s posted here: http://www.legrandsoir.info/guerre-civile-ukrainienne-jour-1-15-avril-2014.html
And here: http://www.oulala.info/2014/04/guerre-civile-ukrainienne-jour-1/
and here: http://www.alterinfo.net/Guerre-civile-ukrainienne-jour-1_a101726.html
AND THANK YOU!
I translated it and it’s posted here: http://www.legrandsoir.info/guerre-civile-ukrainienne-jour-1-15-avril-2014.html
And here: http://www.oulala.info/2014/04/guerre-civile-ukrainienne-jour-1/
and here: http://www.alterinfo.net/Guerre-civile-ukrainienne-jour-1_a101726.html
AND THANK YOU!