source: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150329/1020179851.html
Dmitri Yarosh, Rada MP and leader of Ukraine’s Right Sector, has declared that the unruly residents of eastern Ukraine must be deported and deprived of their civil rights before a program of ‘affectionate Ukrainianization’ can begin.
In an interview for Ukrainian newspaper Obosrevatel published on Sunday, Ukrainian Right Sector leader and Rada deputy Dmitri Yarosh stated that the unruly residents of eastern Ukraine should be deported and deprived of their civil rights.
Yarosh noted that much of Donbas is populated by ‘Sovoks’, an insulting slang term in Ukrainian and Russian derived from the word ‘Soviet’. Yarosh stated that the region “is populated by Sovoks –real Sovoks. And they should be deported. We have to deal with those who do not want to live by the rules and the laws of the state in a very harsh manner. This includes deportation, the deprivation of civil rights, and so on. Without force, it will not be possible to do anything with the region, to turn the tide so to speak.”
The Right Sector leader added that the region’s “unruly” residents must also be dealt with. “If we get rid of the unruly ones, everything will be fine, quiet and peaceful. And then, of course, a program of affectionate Ukrainianization can begin.” The MP noted that “spiritual rebirth” can begin only if authorities act in a consistent and forceful manner.
Yarosh cited Ukrainian authorities’ response to events in Konstantinovka, Donetsk, controlled by the Ukrainian military, where an inebriated Ukrainian armored vehicle driver recently crashed into a crowd of people and crushed and killed an eight-year-old girl in a hit and run incident, leading to riots in the streets.
“The events in Konstantinovka are an example of what I mean. If we had shown even a little bit of weakness…Right from the beginning a whole bunch of ‘heroes’ began crawling out of the woodwork, using the tragedy in their own separatist interests. And when our guys came out and began shooting into the air and arresting the instigators of riots, everything ceased at once. This is the rule,” Yarosh explained.
The MP noted that in his view, there are still many “real patriots” of Ukraine in the region, and that the present anti-Kiev attitudes are the result of many years of Russian propaganda and the removal of genuinely Ukrainian spiritual values. Yarosh explained that the “guys from Donetsk and Lugansk regions” fighting for the Ukrainian army “should become the [new] elite, on whose basis a qualitatively new society can be built…And those Vatnik [slang for Russians blindly loving their country], criminal oligarchic attitudes sitting in the minds of ordinary people for one reason or another must be removed.”
Dmitri Iarosh – now “advisor” to the Ukrainian Minister of Defense
The extreme nationalist leader noted that he has accepted the president’s invitation to come work in the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, adding that he has chosen to do so on a volunteer basis.Speaking about the Ukrainian army’s recent losses on the battlefield, Yarosh recalled that “we faced a route near Ilovaisk…On the one hand, we have learned to fight, with morale at a high level. But things are very bad when a pride of lions is led by sheep. They cannot lead us to victory, and only roll us back…Speaking about the current situation on the front, our forces are still threatened by several encirclements. And I don’t know, again, whether the sheep will react to this, or whether they are playing some sort of geopolitical game.”
The Right Sector is a far-right wing Ukrainian nationalist party. In January and February of 2014, the movement’s members participated heavily in fighting with Ukrainian police in the streets of Kiev, and in the capture of government buildings during the Euro-Maidan coup. Since April, they have taken the lead in the crushing of protest movements in eastern Ukraine, and enforcing the new order of the revolutionary government. In addition, they have also been involved in Kiev’s military operation in Donbas. Right Sector’s Ukrainian Volunteer Corps includes two battalions operating in eastern Ukraine, as well as eight reserve battalions throughout the rest of the country.
In November 2014, the Russian Supreme Court declared the Right Sector to be an extremist organization, and its activity has been banned on the territory of the Russian Federation. Earlier, in March, 2014, Russian authorities issued an arrest warrant against Dmitri Yarosh for incitement of terrorism, and for his organization’s combat operations in the First Chechen War against the Russian military.
Gettin better anyway. By summer last year they wanted the donbassers had their
throats cut off, as long as the residents unable to quit russian language and speak ukranian only!!
Just deport them is a far better deal in comparison.
usually deportation meant “no return”.
What constructive comment can be made from this? The Nazis are being used to cleanse the Donbass with the help of the western so called democracies. Shame on the world.
Constructive answer is needed, there was enough of vast comments.
And the answer should be lethal to the scum named Jaros and him similar.
But either the Kremlin has no drons or special forces nor balls to act as a super power!
The shitty state of Israel which is only faking its importancy would already send a clear message to the enemy of their (jewish) people.
And the hypocratic EU puppets are just silent???? Fine partners of Mr Putin.
They issued an order to arrest Seselj and bring him back to Hague!!! They are continuing to humiliate the whole Serbian nation. Seselj burned American flag last week in public and now they want him back to prison!
Russia, save Serbia!
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/mar/30/un-tribunal-says-serb-suspect-seselj-has-to/
UN tribunal says Serb suspect Seselj has to return to court
By MIKE CORDER Associated Press3:22 a.m.March 30, 2015
THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — Appeals judges at the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal ruled Monday that Serbian far-right leader Vojislav Seselj has breached conditions of his provisional release and must return to the court’s cellblock in The Hague.
The decision means authorities in Serbia will be ordered to detain Seselj and send him back to the United Nations tribunal where he already has spent more than a decade in custody.
Seselj on Monday reiterated that he won’t surrender voluntarily and challenged Serbian authorities to try to arrest him.
Time for a patriotic “maidan” in Serbia.Clean the nest of NATO friendly traitors out once and for all.
Uncle Bob 1,
it is not possible just yet. I think that things will change dramatically if Russia (or Novorussia) finally liberates the whole south-east Ukraine, from Odessa to Kharkov. I believe this will happen at the end of the Summer. Then, Serbia will rise again!
We need a decisive Russian victory in Ukraine to settle scores with NATO friendly traitors in Serbia.
Odessa is the key for the Balkans. In that region is Danube delta. I cannot describe how psychologically would liberation of Odessa affect all the countries in the Balkans.
What makes you think Russia will help when Russia hasn’t helped militarily in Novorussia – Russia has taken part in the western-pushed “peace deals” which were only to buy time when the fascists were losing and on the retreat.
Russia has been an ENABLER.
Plus Russia hasn’t done anything to stop the ICTY – Russia was involved either voting it in or failing to use its veto: it did the same with the bombing of Bosnian Serbs and some of the sanctions.
I’ve also not seen Russia show any interest in exposing the travesty of the ICTY – you don’t see the people doing research or collecting a list of its misdeeds at all.
Only once in awhile – about once every year or two – a Russian says that he thinks the ICTY should be closed soon. That’s about it for Russia and Russians.
Well said.
Russia allows to rape its friends and allies.
Russian president would probably bow himself if a partner had wished.
I wonder where is their red line….probably they would even give up St Petersburg. And nobody will care.
i cannot speak for serbian nation, but it is definitely not good for serbs to indentify with Seselj,his deeds and his far right reasoning. whatever reason he may have to hate other nations. he does not hate persons, he hate nations. he is like guy on picture above. he is right only from his own point of view, but for other, he is faschist.
I disagree.
Seselj is more like Mandela or Gandhi. Like them, he spent a lot of years in prison FOR NOTHING! He didn’t kill anybody, didn’t order killing of anybody, they did not prove that he did anything against the law. He was sentenced in his youth for being an anarchist (!), then he became a right-wing. He just wants the territories which were taken from Serbs by NATO and its Croatian and Albanian allies to be given back to Serbs. The Serbs will not be peaceful until Republika Srpska Krajina and Kosovo are a part of Serbia. Croats may not like it, neither Albanians, but the justice in on Serbian side. The traditional Nazis in the Balkans have always been Croats and Albanians.
He is the only politician in Serbia that openly supports Crimea as a part of Russia, and who calls for integration of Serbia in CSTO. Most of Serbs would like to be in CSTO. Most of Serbs support Seselj’s call for stopping the integration of Serbia in EU and NATO. Attack on Seselj is attack on Serbian nation.
And in the 90’s, I didn’t once vote for him. He earned his respect during the 11 years of the parody of trial in the Hague-NATO tribunal.
“And in the 90’s, I didn’t once vote for him.”
Serbian patriots are the ones the kangaroo court is after. I hope you weren’t one of the fools who believed Otpor. By the way, why aren’t those who were in Otpor being attacked for serving up Serbia to western-puppets who sold out the country and made things worse than things were under sanctions?
These types must be given the full blame – if only to make them so self-doubting that they never become a tool for the west again. They were pure-puppets who (mostly) didn’t know it – they weren’t smart enough to see the OVERARCHING situation and manipulation of what was going on.
Wend, i don’t know who you are or where you came from. but, i am telling you facts. i grown in SFRJ. was in war on Croat side because we were put in situation created by three extreme nationalism and forced to choose side regarding family, friends, etc. ’88 few years before war there were celebration on Petrova gora about ancient Kosovo battle against Turk empire. there, first time, serbs begin to show insignia of WWII royalist forces of Chetniks. Chetniks were ellite forces in WWI but in WWII made very and many evil deeds against muslims and croats civil poulation. as croat side with Ustashe did horrors against serb population. i am not talking about etnics cleansing. cleansing means something good. i am talking about genocide. end of ’80 i remember watching on tv same Seselj on staircase of Yugoslav parliament in Belgrade saying; i am duke of Chetniks. several times. in that moment there was stil Yugoslavia. there was no independent republics yet. saying that he helped Croatian nationalism to open eyes. it is nonsense to blame USA or Germany or Vatikan for what happened in Yugoslavia. we killed each other and separated in bloddy mess because ghosts of nationalism arised. and Seselj helped war during ’90 a lot. you may freely compare Seselj with Mc Cain in USA. warmongers both. you may think whatever you want if that make you feel happy, but it is not good to compare Seselj with Ghandi.
You forget about Tudjman writing out Serbs’ rights in the Constitution and invited old fascists and death camp commanders back to Croatia.
You forget about Croatian death squads which started attacking Serb civilians even prior to the official war – Serbs were being arrested, tortured and killed.
Croat Tomislav Mercep started this in Vukovar: he and his men were responsible for starting the war there.
You also leave out that the Bosnian Muslims were aligned with the Ustashe during WWII and were called “flowers of the Croats”.
Bosnia’s wartime president in the ’90s was a WWII pro-Nazi teenager.
The Bosnian Muslims were a special project of Himmler who believed the Muslims were useful in Nazi aims.
You also leave out that Croatia sent troops into BiH BEFORE the war began and was massacring Serb civilians.
Bosnian Muslims were also decapitating and roasting alive Bosnian Serbs – there is photographic and autopsy evidence of fully identified Serbs.
Croats lost mostly MILITARY and POLICEMEN in their attacks against Serbs.
Bosnian Muslims also STAGED and PROVOKED attacks constantly, but the mainstream media was silent.
UN officers and personnel who lived in Sarajevo during the war witnessed the Muslims staging crimes which killed Sarajevo civilians: all to blame the Serbs.
The Bosnian Muslim government even kept the UN food aid from the civilian population: UN says it wasn’t even distributing 60% of the food that was arriving into Sarajevo.
The government would distribute it to its army in there: 40,000 strong, and some got to the black market, but the civilians were PURPOSELY not given the food to create an impression that Serbs were starving them. NOT TRUE.
No, i did not forget anything. I know exactly what was happened and how croatia nationalist deliberately provoked ex JNA to shoot at own croatia forces constantly to break ceasefires and prolong armed conflict. I am not saying that foreign countries did not take advantage of situation and “helped” a litlle to steal or get back nationalized property during revolution, like Vatican. ’93 we (croatian army unit) got brand new shipment of arms from Kragujevac (Serbia) in exchange for petrol shipment. During war we bought weapon from enemy. One can get picture what criminals run war and for what purpose. Like today in Ukraine. None can build fair country from bloody theft called “patriotic war”. So, armed conflict was imperative for criminals to build what we have today. I wrote before there was nationalizm on scene. Why any one can think that one side nationalism is good but other side is bad? One thing helped Croatia to “get rid of serbs” and that is serbian nationalism. Yes, the same Seselj and similar persons helped a lot croatian nationalism to “win” and to stay in power today in Croatia. So, maybe we, i Croatia, have really good reason not to love that person. He is definitey not Ghandy. And if someone think oposite, i assure him, he is deceited.
@Anonymous (March 30, 2015 · at 9:56 pm UTC)
To be fair, I do know the facts which you are presenting. Strangely, it seems to me that in the past half century plus, it was only under the portly dictator Tito that the Yugoslav peoples lived in relative ethnic harmony (be it only because of the sharing of common hardships?). When being a “Muslim” or “Catholic” or “Orthodox” meant merely a cultural identification, drawing from distant history, all that it is.
All the disharmonies that befell those peoples were deliberately foreign instigated. Exactly what George Friedman is saying: the Western powers have forever thrived by the old “divide et impera” motto! The old Romans were using it … the British ruled India by that method … all the Western European vultures have been using it … and the Americans have been applying it for many years already, which is how they rule the world today. And it can be nicely described how exactly this was done to the peoples in Yugoslavia also – before the WWII and after the WWII – all the way to the 1990-es, though this requires more time & stomach strength, on another occasion perhaps…
As for Dr. Seselj, I think The Wend summarized it by his last paragraph above, “… And in the 90’s, I didn’t once vote for him. He earned his respect during the 11 years of the parody of trial in the Hague-NATO tribunal. …”. In the 90’s (and 80’s) Seselj’s conduct indeed had nothing to recommend itself. The Hague Inquisition changed that.
Please understand that the World Bank created the conditions for the Yugoslav war by calling in the loans all at once. The collapse of the economy, with hyperinflation, resulted in the various ethnic groups blaming each other for the crisis leading to ethnic wars.
It is a real shame that the people are so easily used by the “masters of the universe” who come in afterwards and buy up the assets at pennies on the dollar.
@The Wend: I agree with you 100%. Both about Dr. Vojislav Seselj as a person. and that the destiny of Serbia (and all the Serb victims of the illegal Hague Inquisition) depends on Russia.
During the formal proceedings of the Hague Inquisition, Seselj has famously declared that Serbs are a small but disobedient people, who are effectively of Russian ethnic and cultural heritage – “we are small Russians in the Balkans” (in Russian “мы Малые Русские на Балканах”, see video with Russian subtitles and English transcript on http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=759_1403869142 ) – which is the actual reason why Americans and their Western allies hate Serbs so much!
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Incidentally, Serbs did inhabit a part of Novorussia, and in XVIII century even had own territories called Славяносербия (Slavo-Serbia) and Новая Сербия (New Serbia) that were parts of Russian Empire (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%8F and https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CD%EE%E2%E0%FF_%D1%E5%F0%E1%E8%FF )
Seems that Dima is not versed in dancing, and/or mama didn’t remind him that I want doesn’t mean I get.
This s.o.b.Yarosh idea of “affectionate Ukrainianization” is not going to fix Ukraine’s on-going economic downfall and the suffering of the very vulnerable pensioners and children.
Corruption is draining Ukraine’s economy — or what’s left of it. Ukraine ranks 142 of 175 on the Transparency International list of most corrupt countries. Ukraine is -“Oligarch’s Paradise” .
Even the skinny “rat” with glasses admits the money situation is in very bad shape.
Over 40 banks have been declared bankrupt since the war began.
The only “affection” it will produce will be the Ukrainians hugging one another other crying in desolate despair and wishing Yanakovich would had not been deposed.
It’s disgustingly inhumane what has been done (and will continue to be done) to the innocent children and elderly. Both in the east and in the west of Ukraine.
The new Greece in the east
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2015/03/ukraine-s-economy
Carmel by the Sea
A poll in Transcarpathia I heard about showed 70% though it was better under the “dictator” Yanukovich.And only 10% though the “democratic” maidanites were better.
Very telling faschist jibber (vomitus). A true Galician hero of the mouth, an incestuous backstabber / murderer for the forces of antichrist (City of London, W arse in gton, Tel Aviv, Riad, Frankfart, Bruxelles…) A bit too “honest” about Saeuberungen (genocidal ) -intentions. Soon to be eliminated (“the revolution devours it’s children – a booktitle by a German excommie– see the French a. the anglozionist red colour “revolution” 1917 on Russian territory) by dumb reflexactive vassals in CIA controlled Kiew.
Bessarabvatnik:
Yarosh isn’t a Galician. He is a Russian speaking Ukrainian from Dnipropetrovsk who grew up and was educated in Soviet times in the 70’s and 80’s.
Just like Timoshenko, Turchinov, and Kolomoisky, and a genocidal maniac just like them.
The Galicians have enough problems without being blamed for the genocidal crazies produced by the bend in the Dnipr.
Really, what the hell is wrong with Dnipropetrovsk that such people come from there and rise to prominence?
Not really sure, though Dnepropetrovsk has always been a border Oblast.Parts of it swing towards Russia and parts not.Two out of the four you mention have Jewish backgrounds who decided to side with Ukrainian nationalism.One is a pure fascist,which trumps ethnicity I guess, in his mind.And the other is a religious oddball.Which divides him from the mainstream,both Russian and Ukrainian speaking.I suspect to be accepted,he threw himself into Ukrainian nationalism as well.
Why have you not reposted my remarks/e.mail ?>??? Publicised my response . ????
Yarosh is mad and dangerous. He has clear idea of what he wants to achieve. Let’s have a look to what was posted in 11 languages the day after Maïdan…
I went to that link. The english version — and only the English version — is blocked as ‘may be inappropriate for some users’. Yes — English speakers are not allowed to see this material unless they sign in, giving Youtube/google/spooks their personal information.
Why do Americans Brits, and Ozzies not know what is going on? We are not allowed to.
“Speaking about the current situation on the front, our forces are still threatened by several encirclements. And I don’t know, again, whether the sheep will react to this, or whether they are playing some sort of geopolitical game.”
Interesting!
So what does this implicate? Maybe that the cauldrons and great losses on the Ukr side were intent and for a purpose?
We will see…
http://russialist.org/bne-support-for-ukrainian-government-plummets/
a Kyiv poling Razumkov centre polls re support-surprise, surprise, declining fast.
I noted on TV this morning , Lavrov at Lausanne greeting the chinese foreign minister with ‘my dear friend” , and later saying he, Lavrov “is not payed enough to be an optimist’…..
These Guys are real gentlemen, aren’t they?!?
The entire purpose of the “civil war” in Eastern Ukraine and the South was to either exterminate the Russia-speaking Ukrainians or to force them to flee to Russia. Isn’t that what they have more or less accomplished? Even though the Ukies are losing at every attempt?
i wonder how many guys that have secured their families into Russia are contemplating or actually have returned to take up arms to defend their land?
March 30. /TASS/. Economic sanctions imposed by the European Union against Russia affect all countries, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in Helsinki Monday.
“Russia does not stick to the principle of a common approach,” Merkel said. “So we decided to act in a coordinated way and impose economic sanctions, although they affect all countries.”
At the same time, she said the EU needs to build its security policy not against Russia but with it.
“When the cold war ended and the Soviet Union stopped existing, we always kept looking on Russia as a partner. We have tried to interact in the economic sphere, we have an interdependence in the sphere of energy supplies. But something has changed when we look at events in Georgia and in eastern Ukraine,” Merkel said.
a very mixed message from Merkel????????
But Crimea is going strong-eg territorial waters one presumes………..
March 30. /TASS/. The force grouping in Crimea has been set up not only to defend Russia’s interests on the peninsula and in the Black Sea, it is also capable of performing tasks in the off-shore maritime zone, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said on Monday.
“The created [Crimea] force grouping not only defends Russia’s interests in the Black Sea area and in the Crimean Federal District, it can also successfully accomplish missions in the off-shore maritime zone,” he said.
The minister noted that nearly 100 units and organizations had been created by the end of last year under a program for deploying a self-sufficient group of forces in Crimea.
“On presidential orders we were instructed to deploy a self-sufficient combined group of forces in the Crimean Peninsula capable of effectively protecting the interests of Russia in this area. That task had been fulfilled by the end of 2014. A corresponding report was presented to the supreme commander-in-chief. Ninety six units and organizations were formed,” Shoigu said.
In particular, he said, “last year, forces of the Black Sea, Northern and Baltic Fleets comprising six warships ensured the Russian Navy’s permanent presence in the Mediterranean.”
In addition, “we have now organized the complete combat training of the Air Force of the Crimean group, the operational strength of the antiaircraft defense duty forces has been reinforced,” Shoigu said. According to him, the construction of new facilities in five military towns continues on the peninsula, and the rest buildings are undergoing capital repairs.”
In no way do I trust Merkel.Her message is actually easy to see. She lied that from 1990 the West wanted to be friends with Russia,and include Russia.That’s obvious from them lying to Gorbachev on NATO expansion.To trying to put missiles “against Iran” ,of course, in Eastern Europe.To plotting a coup in Ukraine.And what has changed at her “looking at events in Georgia and Eastern Ukraine” is that Russia is stopping letting herself be lied to and bullied around. Merkle is just giving more of the old “its not me,its you” double talk.Hoping her supporters and maybe the Russians will still believe her.
JJ:
Alfred E. Eckes explained this a long time ago in “The United States and the Global Struggle for Minerals”. In a modern industrial economy, the control of natural resources is the lifeblood of the state, its military-industrial complex, and the ability of the state to increase its population and the economic output of its population, and thus its global power. All modern wars since around 1870 have been fought for the control of minerals, oil/gas, and farmland. To inspire the masses to armed service, out come slogans of ethnic brotherhood and the unity of the nation and the like, but when it really comes down to it, its about who is going to control this oil well or that iron mine or this cotton field.
Germany seized the Baltics, Sloboda Ukraine, Donbass, Crimea, and Georgia in 1918 in the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. There was no more thought behind this than the wheat fields of Ukraine, the coal and iron and manganese of Donbass, the oil shale of Estonia, and the citrus industry of Crimea and Georgia, and a pool of labor. The region was a natural extension of Germany and Austria-Hungary, and borders on the Seversky Donets and Lake Peipus were as definsible as anything else.
When this ended in failure at Versailles with Germany forced to give up her “winnings” and Austria-Hungary dissolved as a state and then the recovery of the Russian state in 1921, the German Army High Command with the backing of the Ruhr and Silesian industrialists and the Prussian officer corps set about finding a new way to seize these same territories. They hit upon it with Hitler and his personal charisma and message. Don’t forget that Hitler, an obscure Army corporal, was purposefully sent to infiltrate the infant Nazi party by his army superiors, but that by 1923, he was marching at the head of men like Ludendorff. By 1922, it is now known that the German Army had drawn up the plans for remilitarization that were later adopted by the Nazi’s, and the purpose of these plans was set down in Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” namely restoration of a German Empire ont he territory of Russia.
World War II was simply another iterration of this same German struggle for the same lands and the same resources. When that ended in failure at the gates of Moscow and Stalingrad and then in the bunker in Berlin, the German military-industrial complex set about determining a new way to dominate these same lands that would not involve armed conflict – at least not on the part of Germany. The EEC morphing into the EU became the tool for this, with Germany now resolved to share the spoils with France and the Netherlands instead of aiming for continental supremacy. The fall of the Soviet Union and the reunfication of Germany opened up a potential new vista for the same enterprise. The German-French lead EU started swallowing up the same target countries – Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania. They got Yugoslavia back by proxy war. When it at last came to former Soviet states, they bit first at the Baltics, which were the easiest and got them, thanks in large part to their anti-Russian apartheid rules which disenfranchise the Russian population. Then began project Ukraine and project Georgia and project Caucusus Muslim Insurrection. These were nursed along by reinjecting the poison of people like the OUN and through street protests/riots to bring the right governments to power, or through subsidizing outright rebelling in Chechnya and Dagestan.
Its the same 100 year old contest being waged by the same crowd still bitter over their defeats in 1918 and 1945 that snatched these lands from their grasp twice. So, no, its not a mixed message from the Merkel puppet. She is serving the same masters that Hitler and the Kaiser served. They are trying very hard to achieve the same goal, but this time without destroying the asset in the process. War is too costly and destructive to be fought at full scale like was done in WWII. Much easier to use light proxy battles and sudden coup’s. You think Germany’s government is really unaware that there are open Nazi’s fighting in Donbass under the Swastika and Wolfsangel? Surely its not an accident that they aren’t willing to just let Crimea and Donbass go their own way and settle with rump Ukraine. Crimea and Donbass were precisely the major targets and prizes of the Maidan campaign. Galicia is a worthless piece of sub-optimal farm and forest and mountains. The EU is not subsidizing the Ukraine adventure to win Galicia. If that was what she wanted, the rest of Ukraine could probably have been easily persuaded to divide them off.
I disagree. The main European disaster was WWI and the winners did put all the blame on Germany and the older I get, the more I think that this version of the story is false.
The Pre-WWI German Empire was enormously successful in the fields of economy, sciences and industries, like no other country in the world. The economic and cultural expansion of the German speaking hemisphere would have grown completely natural without WWI.
WWI was in the interest of Germany’s enemies, namely France but above all in the interest of the Anglo-Saxon “elites”. The wanted to destroy Germany just because of its success and they wanted to hinder a cooperation/alliance between Germany and Russia.(In order to secure the Anglo-Saxon supremacy!)
And this is still a preponderate Anglo-Saxon geopolitical axiom. Today they want to destroy Russia just because of its “rebirth” and that it dares to dissent with the hegemon’s points of view.
Present-day Germany’s leading politicians and official journalists are all in US pockets! If they execute something which you might think are German interests then just because the US masters want it and they want it that Germany exposes herself in the shop window as a scapegoat for all the misery that this Anglo-Saxon neoliberal politics have been created so far!
Valjean72, That’s True. You are more correct than JJ, in my opinion. The onion needs to be peeled deeper back in time to get to the more fundamental truths of the matter:
The greatest set-back ever for the Empire was 1776-the crossing of the Delaware and Yorktown.
Second greatest set-back was the election of Abraham Lincoln and his defeat of their “Confederate States of America”. Despite their Canadian/Confederate assassination of Lincoln, what was set in motion in the few short years of Lincoln’s national (and international!!!!) leadership had strategic momentum that outlived him: The industrial mobilization of the Northern States of the Union, the Transcontinental Railways, the greenbacks policy independent of Wall St ( an “Empire” asset then and since its inception—-Aaron Burr, etc) and so on.
These non-military victories were admired by the world and studied in person by leading individuals such as Count Sergei Witte (Russia), Friedrich List (Germany) and even Japanese (names?) visitors all, to the first Centennial Celebration of the Declaration of Independence, 1876, Philadelphia.
Results: The Transiberian Railroad (including initial purchases of locomotives from the Baldwin Locomotive Co in Philadelphia by Russia, China, (Germany?) spread the American “disease” so widely that The Empire understood that its days were numbered. The response, was Edward the VII’s preparations to mess it all up by provoking a gigantic “family spat” ampong the intermarried (and inbred) royal families of Europe. This was the deeper cause of WW 1.
A precondition to setting off the powder keg of internecine stupidity was the removal of Otto Von Bismark by a manipulated, vain and stupid Kaiser Wilhelm. Bismark was too smart to allow such insanity to unfold. Once he was dismissed, the plans of the satanic “Prince of the Isles” were unimpeded.
While it is true that Germany also had its little Empire and Its imperialists, it also had List and Bismark and it was much less horrible in its practice of colonialism and Empire than was #1 England, # 2 The Dutch, # 3 the French, etc. Germany to its credit, was more interested in applying Henry C Carey’s anti BRITISH Free trade “American System” of economic development than they were in conducting imperialist looting of Asians or Africans. The plans for the Berlin to Baghdad Railroad by German politicians and engineers was the last straw, from the Empire’s strategic standpoint. An Empire based on control of the seas, central banking, assassination (if you can’t buy, kill) and the Venetian divide and conquer axioms of “geopolitics” could not survive Abraham Lincoln’s vision of “ribbons of steel, girding the globe” and freeing humanity from their satanic sea-based grip. Gotta go. I’ll finish later, and bring it up to the present day.
Unrelated to this article but still relevant to this blog:
Saudi’s rattled and afraid of Putin’s growing influence in the Middleeast:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/29/us-mideast-arabs-summit-putin-idUSKBN0MP0I920150329
Saudi Arabia are only brave with America behind them.
They criticise Russia for support of Assad while they support isis and Al
Quaeda and Al nusea.
The western leaders may choose to overlook this, but the vast numbers of the public know Saudi Arabia supports these groups
Dmitri Yarosh is an pro-American idiot and war criminal.
Agreed 100%. Cool him down in a far-away Gulag and let the Corporate Presstitutes rage and fume,
Yarosh and his NATO backers maybe need to get a message from a poll in Russia:
“Half of Russians reacted favorably to Putin’s statement made by him in the movie “Crimea. The Road Home “, that he gave the order during the Crimean operation’s willingness to use nuclear weapons. These are the results of a poll conducted by “Levada Center.”
In particular, 50% of respondents chose the answer “I approve, with the West can be the only way to talk, they understand when they are talking from a position of strength.” Anxiously Putin’s statement about readiness to use nuclear weapons apprehended only 27% of Russians.”
http://vesti.lv/news/opros-50-rossiyan-gotovy-k-yadernoi-voine
Oooops!
“Restitution – it is the law that every state and every citizen residing in the EU has the right to return any property that belonged to his ancestors before the First World War!”
I wonder how many Ukrainians have thought about the EU Law on restitution in their clamor to get in the EU.How much land and other properties belonged to Poles,Jews,Romanians,Germans,in the former Ukraine before WW1 and since.Lands and properties lost in that war and WW2,or in Soviet era nationalizations.And, an even better question might be.Do some people in the EU so anxious for Ukraine to join,remember that law?
http://victor-vos.livejournal.com/739224.html
???? what law is that? did someone just invent it? even for WW2 there is no EU law or rule. EU didn’t exist at the end of the war, did it? And then every country made its own laws about restitution for Communist era property losses.
Even if individuals were entitled to TRY getting back ancestral property, it would be for individuals. It certainly would not allow Poland to demand the return of Galicia, as the writer in your link suggests.
It’s a strange idea anyway… fight two wars, kill half a billion people, then 100 years later change all the borders back to where they used to be? very strange idea.
I don’t believe the law would work for nations.But I have heard of the law concerning individuals.And that was my point.There are thousands of people (or their heirs) in the EU with claims under that law for the return of properties.And hundreds of thousands in Ukraine that could suffer if that was done.I wonder if Ukrainians understand that.And if some in the EU do understand that.
As far as Galizians are concerned, their renowned grovelling before Western colonizers should make them just about elated to sacrifice a lot for the benefit of Enlightened Westerners. What’s the problem?
I am sure Russian special forces and FSB know exactly where this cowardly thug is at all times, and Putin should unleash them and give the order to snatch the fascist imbecile and bring to stand trial in Russia and answer for war crimes, murder and genocide. That should get McCain and Nuland all riled up nicely.
If they do, Yarosh might congratulate himself too: An instant nomination for the Nobel peace prize courtesy of Breivikland, ha!
Been thinking about what your average person in the EU, US, aye and maybe the rest of the planet, could do to push the 1% in to recognizing that we, the vast and overwhelming majority of the people want nothing to do with war, death and lies. I’m a Scot with Irish blood and family too, and like many others i’m appalled at what is happening in eastern Europe,Syria, Yemen and our collective world. I think that demonstrations in every capital city and also in regional capitals in Europe demanding high level diplomacy and peace would be a phenomenon that would be difficult for thems to ignore. we all got to….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7vSEBR_T5o
Espina
Indeed, I cannot really blame Western imperialism for taking advantage of people beyond redemption and below contempt. The ongoing immiseration and sodomization of the Ukraine courtesy of the EU can take place precisely because of the targeted population’s very own “moral stature”. Just as there are parasitic individuals and parasitic strata of society, so too are there entirely parasitic countries and peoples on this planet too. I don’t know whether Yarosh understands or even cares, but the fact of the matter is that he actually does contribute to bring about a glorious future for his “true Ukros” as these soon will be flooding the EU to offer toilet cleaning, commodified sex, and petty crime. Should be the ultimate reward and joy for each and every little drooling Euromaidan imbecile.
Pampers to the Ukraine — to the heroes toilet training.
Where is Saker?
Saker, are you ok?
He is fine, thanks for asking. He’s working on something.
ok, GREAT< THANKS!! I was getting worried.
Is he back from Switzerland yet? And how is the new baby doing?
I was thinking maybe he with the research assistants they were busy finding info on Nursery schools in Crimea — just in case Florida declares war on Russia, or if the state follows Yarosh’s idea and deports anyone who isn’t a natural born American and registered Republican or Democrat party member. There are people in the US and government who want to do that sort of thing — the old ‘love it or leave it’ bunch.
(And I was also wondering if his computer punked out, or something… Glad to hear not.)
It’s only been three days since he last wrote here ;)
He’s obviously busy (instead of relaxing like he probably should)
Since the early 1920s, numerous pamphlets and articles, even a few books, have sought to forge a link between “international bankers” and “Bolshevik revolutionaries.” Rarely have these attempts been supported by hard evidence, and never have such attempts been argued within the framework of a scientific methodology.
Indeed, some of the “evidence” used in these efforts has been fraudulent, some has been irrelevant, much cannot be checked. Examination of the topic by academic writers has been studiously avoided; probably because the hypothesis offends the neat dichotomy of capitalists versus Communists (and everyone knows, of course, that these are bitter enemies).
Moreover, because a great deal that has been written borders on the absurd, a sound academic reputation could easily be wrecked on the shoals of ridicule. Reason enough to avoid the topic. Fortunately, the State Department Decimal File, particularly the 861.00 section, contains extensive documentation on the hypothesized link.
When the evidence in these official papers is merged with nonofficial evidence from biographies, personal papers, and conventional histories, a truly fascinating story emerges. We find there was a link between some New York international bankers and many revolutionaries, including Bolsheviks. These banking gentlemen — who are here identified — had a financial stake in, and were rooting for, the success of the Bolshevik Revolution.
Who, why — and for how much — is the story in this book.
Antony C. Sutton
March 1974
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf
Spot on, Five Imperial Eyes. And what makes Western drivel such as this so extremely void and preposterous is, above all, the following:
Firstly, it simply dismisses the key role played by reactionary oppression in bringing about revolutionary change, even when considering an irrefutable case such as that of brutal and grossly incompetent Czarist despotism gladly sending off millions of poor, hapless Russians to die as cannon fodder in WW1.
Secondly, it also dismisses the highly concrete and completely logical measures of the Western banksters whom it accuses of having sponsored the Russian Revolution. Czarist Russia was highly indebted to Western banksters, most notably French banksters. This alone begs the question as to why these latter would ever plot against their most solid customer in favour of a revolutionary government flatly rejecting the previous government’s debts as illegitimate. Indeed, Western fairy-tales are for lesser creatures. The Western bankster cabal sent hoardes of bloodthirsty mercenaries — duly accompanied by the Corporate Media — against Soviet Russia.
Ergo: The proverbial 1% is made up of people who understand their class interests very well indeed even if their domestic subjects apparently do not.
“an irrefutable case such as that of brutal and grossly incompetent Czarist despotism”
Really??? Proof please… and if you say ‘1905 Bloody Sunday massacre’ or the ‘Jewish pogrom massacres’, then you have fallen for the old Zionist ploy. First demonise then destroy.
Bloody Sunday – SR assassins shot at the crowd to create a stampede.
Pogroms – an old Kahal trick to make Jews fear where they lived (the fertile lands of Europe) to immigrate to the safe ‘Jews only’ land of Palestine.
Sworn enemies of the Tsarist regime were treated with remarkable leniency.
For example, because of his revolutionary activities, Ilyanov (Lenin) was sentenced in 1897 to three years exile (parole) in Siberia. During this period of ‘punishment’, he got married, wrote some 30 works, made extensive use of a well-stocked local library, subscribed to many foreign periodicals, kept up a voluminous correspondence with supporters across Europe, and enjoyed numerous hunting and ice skating excursions, while all the time receiving a state pension. (Lenin’s letters @marxist achives).
Other revolutionaries such as Trotsky and Stalin received similar lenient exile treatment.
Compare that to after the revolution: The Jewish Bolsheviks thought nothing of butchering hundreds of people for acts of ‘civil disobedience’.
“Really??? Proof please…”
I did prove it all right, but for some reason you didn’t quote me till the end of that sentence, possibly being too upset by my evident lack of admiration for Czar Nicholas II. The sentence concluded thus (emphasis mine):
“/…/brutal and grossly incompetent Czarist despotism gladly sending off millions of poor, hapless Russians to die as cannon fodder in WW1.
Indeed, the track record of Nicholas II highly resembles that of Yeltsin — a stupid, inebriated fool and a complete puppet to foreign powers and to “Holy Men” — the latter being the “economic experts” in the case of Yeltsin. In short, two utter disasters for the country all along the line.
“Sworn enemies of the Tsarist regime were treated with remarkable leniency. “
Pretty please, don’t insult good ol’ Stolypin. That guy really committed himself to the fears and worries of Russia’s rich and wealthy.
“Compare that to after the revolution: The Jewish Bolsheviks thought nothing of butchering hundreds of people for acts of ‘civil disobedience’.”
Utterly laughable. As I explained, the Russian Revolution was greeted by insane hatred by the Western banksters, rightfully fearing the loss of their fat, juicy interest tributary from Czarist Russia. So they sent 14 armies to teach the rabble a lesson in close cooperation with such adorable Human RIghts Activists as Roman Ungern von Sternberg, WInston Churchill, and Aleksandr Kolchak. Your “hundreds of people” might actually be true, but your verdict still plain ridiculous.
I conclude by re-iterating what I believe is absolutely fundamental here:
Nussiminen
And you lived in Russia?
Please… where did you learn Russian history?
You don’t have to look too hard to find Jewish banker (Jacob Schiff & co) fingerprints all over the Russian revolution. The two sources I quoted below are are starting point.
Or look at the Jewish Communal Register of New York City 1917-1918, carried a two page laudatory sketch of Schiff which boasted of his role in funding revolution. This tome also gives many details of anti-Russian fund raising.
Go read some please.
Imperial Five Eyes… As a follow on to Sutton’s book…
Here are two original sources regarding American involvement in the Bolshevik revolution.
1. Papers relating to the foreign relations of the United States, 1918. Russia
Source: United States Department of State
Papers relating to the foreign relations of the United States, 1918. Russia
Volume I
U.S. Government Printing Office, 1918
http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/FRUS/FRUS-idx?type=header&id=FRUS.FRUS1918v1&isize=M
URL to cite for this work: http://digital.library.wisc.edu/1711.dl/FRUS.FRUS1918v1
2. Bolshevik Propaganda
Hearings before a Subcommittee on the Judiciary
United States Senate.
65th Congress
(February 1919 to March 1919)
https://archive.org/stream/cu31924030480051#page/n7/mode/2up
http://app.icrosschina.com//print.php?contentid=10754
BEIJING, March 30 (Xinhua) — U.S. Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew said on Monday that the United States is looking forward to cooperating with the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), as it welcomes and supports proposals that are helpful to infrastructure construction.
The cooperation can be carried out through liaison between the China-U.S. Strategic and Economic Dialog (SED), the World Bank and the AIIB, and any other mechanisms accepted by the two countries, Lew said in his talks with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang earlier on Monday, according to Chinese Vice Minister of Finance Zhu Guangyao.
Zhu told Xinhua after the hour-long talks that Lew also welcomes China playing a bigger role in international economic affairs.
This is an off topic comment. I came across this funny interview several days ago about international politics intruding into the video game “Eve”:
http://www.wbez.org/programs/worldview/2015-03-26/worldview-real-world-politics-play-out-virtual-world-eve-online-111774
Dear The Saker,
The only person that needs deporting is him! All the way to Russia to face trials.
Rgds,
Veritas
Deport this jamoke Yarosh to his true homeland, Dumfukistan.
Signed,
Your friendly neighborhood Katsap
This Yarosh guy never left the fascist glory days of pre-war 1930s Europe.
Dear The Saker,
Even the doctors in Mariupol can’t cope with these Nazi’s and because the “West” says nothing it carries on on a daily basis:
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/03/the-doctor-who-treated-women-raped-by.html
Rgds,
Veritas
I think yarosh is the the sort of Israeli-American depravity the ZPC/NWO wish they could impose everywhere. The perfect bum toy.
Definitely it is not clever for Serbs to support Šešelj, everybody in Balkans knows that Šešelj was one of Warmongers far right orientation before Balkan war, maybe he changed rhetoric in last decade but everybody knows what he was 90-is. Actually Šešelj and Yarosh have pretty much in common, for me he is just one of many war criminals here in Balkan, and we had them many.