Ukrainian Nationalist – New Regime Is As Bad As The Separatists [ENG Sub] (Shuster Live)
Translated by Tatzhit Mihailovich
Sep 26, 2016
It only took these people two and a half years to realize what sane folks like me have been saying all along – the Maidan “revolution” is a scam, and is the worst crime against Ukrainians in recent history.
Even under Stalin, Ukrainian population grew steadily (by some ten million), whereas under various “patriotic” governments, Ukrainians have been dying out at an ever-increasing rate (real population of Ukraine is probably under 40 million now).
Wow. That fellow has guts.
Katherine
“New regime is as bad as the separatists”. Notice still, the association of Russia with being the aggressor, and the lack of condemnation of the west. Economic reality sets in, but the persuasive power of the west/USA is still strong and probably will stay that way.
Since yesterday, after reading through Scott Adams’ Blog (shared by webmaster in the Trump-Clinton debate article), I’ve been thinking and rethinking some of the recent events concerning Russia along his line of thought. As luck would have it, Scott’s latest article regarding ISIS very well illustrates the use of weapons-grade persuasion: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151056198611/the-wall-around-isis
If you replace ISIS with Russia and some changes, you get pretty much the following:
“Here’s how you destroy Russia:
Step one: Quarantine Russia. (Build a wall around it.)
Step two: Control all digital communications from the area.
Step three: Control all foreign press in Russia so there are no objectivity.
Step four: Depopulate Russia over time by removing trusted women and children and killing everyone else. I don’t recommend any of this, by the way. I’m only predicting…
If you take a purely military approach to Russia, you will kill yourself obviously. You might even strengthen it if Russia survives much more than you. Persuasion is the only weapon that can make a difference. And to persuade, first you must control the conversation. You can only do that by physically and digitally quarantining the entire Russian world. Otherwise there will always be too much idea-leakage.
We also need persuasion tools to deter intelligent loners from self-realization and becoming a patriot. But that’s a separate persuasion process. The most important strategy involves controlling all communication into and out of Russia. Once you brand Russia as a loser – by totally controlling the stories coming from that zone – you can mop up the patriots over time.
That’s how you kill a re-emerging power as strong as Russia. There really isn’t any other option.”
Hauntingly familiar?
Regarding the MH17 tragedy, I now think Russia lost big time then, and even more now. The west deployed weapons-grade persuasion immediately following the attack to brand Russia and the separatists as the aggressors and guilty party. Remember “Putin’s missile”? To sell that persuasion immediately around the world, they were able to cite high tech satellites and sensors/whatever as confirming Russia as the attacker and most importantly, they spoke in English. All that happening while Russia was still in translation from Russian to English and fact-checking. Too late for that. Facts and truth doesn’t matter now, even if you have them.
Ask yourself which is more believable: “High-tech USA confirms BUK missile fired from Separatist zone” statement released 10mins after it happened, versus “Russia MOD denies shooting down MH17 from rebel area” released 3 days later. Even more funny when Almaz-Antey tried 2 times just before the Dutch investigations due to release their “findings”, they tried to prove and give evidence of their innocence. Russia had the chance to do that early on, but she didn’t. And to do that now seems to imply they are struggling and trying to cover-up something. This might be the reason why the Dutch investigation didn’t even bother to consider those tests and new information. To even accept “new” information is to accept doubt and possibility that Russia might be innocent. No way!
Russia and the separatists shot down MH17 is now a fact. Evidences don’t matter now. Didn’t matter in the beginning too. Persuasion mattered. Weapons-grade persuasion matters.
Remember last year when Mr Lavrov spoke in English to the world: “If it looks like a terrorist, if it acts like a terrorist, if it walks like a terrorist, if it fights like a terrorist, its a terrorist right?” and how effective that statement was, compare that to anything important he now says in Russian. Important information spoken in English straight out of Russian government personnel immediately pierces through the information blockade and reaches directly to the rest of the world. Anything non-English gets lost in translation and precious time is wasted.
If on that day MH17 was downed and the Russian MOD immediately released press conference in English stating: “MH17 shot down by US-supported Ukrainian coup-government based on traffic control, military and satellite data.” How big a difference that will be! Only weapons-grade persuasion deployed on both sides will make facts and evidence matter. Else no, as evident now.
The recent emergency meeting regarding Syria, Aleppo now seems to be a huge weapons-grade persuasion to the world to brand Russia and Syria loyalists as women, child and aid personnel killers, while at the same time make the west change its image to be civilian-caring good doers. Again imagine if on the day the convoy was attacked, Russia MOD promptly releases that drone video and radar data with a lengthy English press release to foreign reporters “US-supported terrorists hide heavy weapons with UN Aid convoy hit by US-made predator drone”. That will be a winner!
But alas…
What you have written does not make sense at all.
Russian discourse is not controlled by outsiders in Russia.
Russians talk openly about the threats to there nation.
They understand the threats perhaps better than anyone
What they discuss is how to deal with the threats as they do not want all out war.
They are also very aware of the lies told about them.
Even in the west the discourse on Russia is not 100% influential even if it’s controlled.
The issue of ukraine and Syria most every day people quite frankly do not want to get involved in any more wars.
I agree completely, Russia is losing the propaganda war in the west were truth and evidence does not matter. Sound bites and first to post is what counts as the attention deficient masses has been conditioned to respond only to sound bites.
Ali and Anonymous at 12:30 pm completely miss the point that James makes, and I will add to:
Their problem is the disease of “spectatoritis”.
As spectators, they observe the deadly games of death and deception being played, fairly well, but only partially,and are in awe of the skills of the devils and in despair at the stupid blindness of the millions of morons in their thrall.
As a transitional point to a goal of victory for humanity over its oligarchic controllers, this state of mind is not horrible. In fact, it could be almost useful if it is quickly passed through and improved upon, by rejection of the subjective role of spectator of a horror show, and acceptance of an objective moral responsibility to intervene “on the playing field, as a contestant, contesting the right of the oligarchy, the Empire slave masters and all their slaves, to play the game they are playing.
If that transitional state of semi-awareness of the game being played is not superceded, such comments become self-fulfilling and everything continues on the road to hell.
Then, potential allies like Ali and Anonymous at 12:30 have to be considered POWs captured and in the thrall of the enemy command.
Instead of players on the side of Truth, they themselves have been played, clowned.
The battle is on the planet earth, but it is also in the mind and soul of every human being. “As above, so below.”
Consciousness of that fact is where the rubber meets the road.
What about YOU, reader? Are you a spectator in a rigged game, or are you going to stop being a clown?
Now what is the worth of a conscious being that leaves the stands and the GMO hot dogs (very dangerous missiles in this fight!), moons the NWO vdeo cameras, and throws a pie in the face of one of the political referees trying to determine reality on the field?
Possibly more than all the idiots in the stands, suffering from spectatoritis, put together, IMHO.
MH 17 Update
“To whose benefit?”
https://youtu.be/30_ygWpNoPc
quite a few items re ukraine today on anna-news
http://www.anna-news.info/node/65266
rus language a ukrainian raging against Poroshenko
http://www.anna-news.info/node/65264
discussion re federalisation of ukraine
Moldova refuses ukr pork due to swine fever, electricity tariffs go up by 3% a month,no one has published the terms of the recent IMF tranche loan
“Permanent Representative of the International Monetary Fund in Ukraine Jerome Your said that for three years Ukraine will return to international debt markets. However, this immediately questioned members of the Ukrainian expert community, saying that it is just a friendly Jerome decided to support the Ukrainians.
And Alexander Dudchak economist called such talk “a carrot, which will try to wave under the nose of Kiev, to motivate him to further privatization and the sale of land.”
In the West, because for a long time wondering: why this ukrotuzemtsam much fat black soil?”
“As the scientist of the Institute of Statistics and Demography of the Higher School of Trade in Warsaw Paul Strzelecki, the last two years the number of Ukrainians who cross the Polish border, has increased in 4 times. Before the war he worked in Poland 200 000 people came each year, but now this figure had risen to 800000. It is 90 per cent of all migrants in the country. Ukrainians shaft flee to the West, and most of them – young boys and men of military age.”
“A few days ago stopped working five district courts of Ukraine. They just do not have the judges left. Such is the lamentable result of the judicial reform.
The fact that the five-year term ended in about 700 judges. The Verkhovna Rada did not consider their reassignment for life. So it happened that the courts were left without competent staff. Workers justice simply thrown out the door.’
etc
plus recently
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/09/tatiana-montyan-tells-it-like-it-is.html
for example
The Official and Implausible MH-17 Scenario.
Exclusive: Another problem with the new report blaming Russia for the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 shoot-down is the bizarre route that the investigators say the Buk missile battery took, a wild ride that made no sense, reports Robert Parry.
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/29/the-official-and-implausible-mh-17-scenario/
Troubling Gaps in the New MH-17 Report.
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/28/troubling-gaps-in-the-new-mh-17-report/
Golubev sounds like a perfectly Russian family name.
Anyway, i am happy for Ukraine becoming what it is now. Judas got to get the lessons of their miserable lives. They sold brotherhood with Russia for few pennies, now go get and suck it up.
No pennies for you either.
Must God bless people like him and make more of them come forward. Both the Ukrainians and the rest of the world need to be told the truth about what’s really happening.