I am not sure how optimistic it will sound, but I am aware that you had very lively discussions over the last three days. I will try, as has now become customary, to share with you what I think about some of the issues. Please do not take it badly if I say something that has already been said as I did not follow all the discussions.
To begin with, I would like to welcome Mr Karzai, Mr Ma, Mr Toje, our colleagues and all our friends. I can see many familiar faces in the audience. Welcome everyone to the Valdai Club meeting.
By tradition, this forum focuses on discussing the most pressing global political as well as economic matters. This time, the organisers, as was just mentioned again, have come up with a fairly difficult challenge asking the participants to try to look beyond the horizon, to ponder over what the coming decades may be like for Russia and the international community.
Of course, it is impossible to foresee everything and to take into account all the opportunities and risks that we will be faced with. However, we need to understand and sense the key trends, to look for outside-the-box answers to the questions that the future is posing for us at the moment, and will surely pose more. The pace of developments is such that we must react to them constantly as well as quickly.
The world has entered an era of rapid change. Things that were only recently referred to as fantastic or unattainable have become a reality and have become part of our daily lives.
Qualitatively new processes are simultaneously unfolding across all spheres. The fast-paced public life in various countries and the technological revolution are intertwined with changes on the international arena. The competition for a place in the global hierarchy is exacerbating. However, many past recipes for global governance, overcoming conflicts as well as natural contradictions are no longer applicable, they often fail, and new ones have not been worked out yet.
Naturally, the interests of states do not always coincide, far from it. This is normal and natural. It has always been the case. The leading powers have different geopolitical strategies and perceptions of the world. This is the immutable essence of international relations, which are built on the balance between cooperation and competition.
True, when this balance is upset, when the observance and even existence of universal rules of conduct is questioned, when interests are pushed through at any cost, then disputes become unpredictable and dangerous and lead to violent conflicts.
Not a single real international problem can be resolved in such circumstances and such a framing of the issues, and so relations between countries simply degrade. The world becomes less secure. Instead of progress and democracy, free rein is given to radical elements and extremist groups that reject civilization itself and seek to plunge it into the ancient past, into chaos and barbarism.
The history of the past few years graphically illustrates all of this. It is enough to see what has happened in the Middle East, which some players have tried to reshape and reformat to their liking and to impose on it a foreign development model through externally orchestrated coups or simply by force of arms.
Instead of working together to redress the situation and deal a real blow to terrorism rather than simulating a struggle against it, some of our colleagues are doing everything they can to make the chaos in this region permanent. Some still think that it is possible to manage this chaos.
Meanwhile, there are some positive examples in recent experience. As you have probably guessed, I am referring to the experience of Syria. It shows that there is an alternative to this kind of arrogant and destructive policy. Russia is opposing terrorists together with the legitimate Syrian Government and other states of the region, and is acting on the basis of international law. I must say that these actions and this forward progress has not come easy. There is a great deal of dissension in the region. But we have fortified ourselves with patience and, weighing our every move and word, we are working with all the participants of this process with due respect for their interests.
Our efforts, the results of which were questioned by our colleagues only recently, are now – let me put it carefully – instilling us with hope. They have proved to be very important, correct, professional and timely.
Or, take another example – the clinch around the Korean Peninsula. I am sure you covered this issue extensively today as well. Yes, we unequivocally condemn the nuclear tests conducted by the DPRK and fully comply with the UN Security Council resolutions concerning North Korea. Colleagues, I want to emphasise this so that there is no discretionary interpretation. We comply with all UN Security Council resolutions.
However, this problem can, of course, only be resolved through dialogue. We should not drive North Korea into a corner, threaten force, stoop to unabashed rudeness or invective. Whether someone likes or dislikes the North Korean regime, we must not forget that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is a sovereign state.
All disputes must be resolved in a civilised manner. Russia has always favoured such an approach. We are firmly convinced that even the most complex knots – be it the crisis in Syria or Libya, the Korean Peninsula or, say, Ukraine – must be disentangled rather than cut.
The situation in Spain clearly shows how fragile stability can be even in a prosperous and established state. Who could have expected, even just recently, that the discussion of the status of Catalonia, which has a long history, would result in an acute political crisis?
Russia’s position here is known. Everything that is happening is an internal matter for Spain and must be settled based on Spanish law in accordance with democratic traditions. We are aware that the country’s leadership is taking steps towards this end.
In the case of Catalonia, we saw the European Union and a number of other states unanimously condemn the supporters of independence.
You know, in this regard, I cannot help but note that more thought should have gone into this earlier. What, no one was aware of these centuries-old disagreements in Europe? They were, were they not? Of course, they were. However, at one point they actually welcomed the disintegration of a number of states in Europe without hiding their joy.
Why were they so unthinking, driven by fleeting political considerations and their desire to please – I will put it bluntly – their big brother in Washington, in providing their unconditional support to the secession of Kosovo, thus provoking similar processes in other regions of Europe and the world?
You may remember that when Crimea also declared its independence, and then – following the referendum – its decision to become part of Russia, this was not welcomed for some reason. Now we have Catalonia. There is a similar issue in another region, Kurdistan. Perhaps this list is far from exhaustive. But we have to ask ourselves, what are we going to do? What should we think about it?
It turns out that some of our colleagues think there are ”good“ fighters for independence and freedom and there are ”separatists“ who are not entitled to defend their rights, even with the use of democratic mechanisms.
As we always say in similar cases, such double standards – and this is a vivid example of double standards – pose serious danger to the stable development of Europe and other continents, and to the advancement of integration processes across the world.
At one time the apologists for globalisation were trying to convince us that universal economic interdependence was a guarantee against conflicts and geopolitical rivalry. Alas, this did not happen. Moreover, the nature of the contradictions grew more complicated, becoming multilayer and nonlinear.
Indeed, while interconnectedness is a restraining and stabilising factor, we are also witnessing an increasing number of examples of politics crudely interfering with economic, market relations. Quite recently there were warnings that this was unacceptable, counterproductive and must be prevented. Now those who made such warnings are doing all this themselves. Some do not even conceal that they are using political pretexts to promote their strictly commercial interests. For instance, the recent package of sanctions adopted by the US Congress is openly aimed at ousting Russia from European energy markets and compelling Europe to buy more expensive US-produced LNG although the scale of its production is still too small.
Attempts are being made to create obstacles in the way of our efforts to forge new energy routes – South Stream and Nord Stream – even though diversifying logistics is economically efficient, beneficial for Europe and promotes its security.
Let me repeat: it is only natural that each state has its own political, economic and other interests. The question is the means by which they are protected and promoted.
In the modern world, it is impossible to make a strategic gain at the expense of others. Such a policy based on self-assurance, egotism and claims to exceptionalism will not bring any respect or true greatness. It will evoke natural and justified rejection and resistance. As a result, we will see the continued growth of tensions and discord instead of trying to establish together a steady and stable international order and address the technological, environmental, climate and humanitarian challenges confronting the entire human race today.
Colleagues,
Scientific and technological progress, robotic automation and digitalisation are already leading to profound economic, social, cultural changes, and changes in values as well. We are now presented with previously inconceivable prospects and opportunities. But at the same time we will have to find answers to plenty of questions as well. What place will people occupy in the “humans–machines–nature” triangle? What actions will be taken by states that fail to provide conditions for normal life due to changes in climate and environment? How will employment be maintained in the era of automation? How will the Hippocratic oath be interpreted once doctors possess capabilities akin to all-powerful wizards? And will human intelligence finally lose the ability to control artificial intelligence? Will artificial intelligence become a separate entity, independent from us?
Previously, when assessing the role and influence of countries, we spoke about the importance of the geopolitical factor, the size of a country’s territory, its military power and natural resources. Of course, these factors still are of major importance today. But now there is also another factor – the scientific and technological factor, which, without a doubt, is of great importance as well, and its importance will only increase over time.
In fact, this factor has always been important, but now it will have game-changing potential, and very soon it will have a major impact in the areas of politics and security. Thus, the scientific and technological factor will become a factor of universal and political importance.
It is also obvious that even the very latest technology will not be able to ensure sustainable development on its own. A harmonious future is impossible without social responsibility, without freedom and justice, without respect for traditional ethical values and human dignity. Otherwise, instead of becoming a world of prosperity and new opportunities, this “brave new world” will turn into a world of totalitarianism, castes, conflicts and greater divisions.
Today growing inequality is already building up into feelings of injustice and deprivation in millions of people and whole nations. And the result is radicalisation, a desire to change things in any way possible, up to and including violence.
By the way, this has already happened in many countries, and in Russia, our country, as well. Successful technological, industrial breakthroughs were followed by dramatic upheavals and revolutionary disruptions. It all happened because the country failed to address social discord and overcome the clear anachronisms in society in time.
Revolution is always the result of an accountability deficit in both those who would like to conserve, to freeze in place the outdated order of things that clearly needs to be changed, and those who aspire to speed the changes up, resorting to civil conflict and destructive resistance.
Today, as we turn to the lessons of a century ago, namely, the Russian Revolution of 1917, we see how ambiguous its results were, how closely the negative and, we must acknowledge, the positive consequences of those events are intertwined. Let us ask ourselves: was it not possible to follow an evolutionary path rather than go through a revolution? Could we not have evolved by way of gradual and consistent forward movement rather than at a cost of destroying our statehood and the ruthless fracturing of millions of human lives.
However, the largely utopian social model and ideology, which the newly formed state tried to implement initially following the 1917 revolution, was a powerful driver of transformations across the globe (this is quite clear and must also be acknowledged), caused a major revaluation of development models, and gave rise to rivalry and competition, the benefits of which, I would say, were mostly reaped by the West.
I am referring not only to the geopolitical victories following the Cold War. Many Western achievements of the 20th century were in answer to the challenge posed by the Soviet Union. I am talking about raising living standards, forming a strong middle class, reforming the labour market and the social sphere, promoting education, guaranteeing human rights, including the rights of minorities and women, overcoming racial segregation, which, as you may recall, was a shameful practice in many countries, including the United States, a few short decades ago.
Following the radical changes that took place in our country and globally at the turn of the 1990s, a really unique chance arose to open a truly new chapter in history. I mean the period after the Soviet Union ceased to exist.
Unfortunately, after dividing up the geopolitical heritage of the Soviet Union, our Western partners became convinced of the justness of their cause and declared themselves the victors of the Cold War, as I just mentioned, and started openly interfering in the affairs of sovereign states, and exporting democracy just like the Soviet leadership had tried to export the socialist revolution to the rest of the world in its time.
We were confronted with the redistribution of spheres of influence and NATO expansion. Overconfidence invariably leads to mistakes. The outcome was unfortunate. Two and a half decades gone to waste, a lot of missed opportunities, and a heavy burden of mutual distrust. The global imbalance has only intensified as a result.
We do hear declarations about being committed to resolving global issues, but, in fact, what we see is more and more examples of selfishness. All the international institutions designed to harmonise interests and formulate a joint agenda are being eroded, and basic multilateral international treaties and critically important bilateral agreements are being devalued.
I was told, just a few hours ago, that the US President said something on social media about Russia-US cooperation in the important area of nuclear cooperation. True, this is the most important sphere of interaction between Russia and the United States, bearing in mind that Russia and the United States bear a special responsibility to the world as the two largest nuclear powers.
However, I would like to use this opportunity to speak in more detail about what happened in recent decades in this crucial area, to provide a more complete picture. It will take two minutes at most.
Several landmark bilateral agreements were signed in the 1990s. The first one, the Nunn-Lugar programme, was signed on June 17, 1992. The second one, the HEU-LEU programme, was signed on February 18, 1993. Highly enriched uranium was converted into low-enriched uranium, hence HEU-LEU.
The projects under the first agreement focused on upgrading control systems, accounting and physical protection of nuclear materials, dismantling and scrapping submarines and radioisotope thermoelectric generators. The Americans have made – and please pay attention here, this is not secret information, simply few are aware of it – 620 verification visits to Russia to check our compliance with the agreements. They visited the holiest of holies of the Russian nuclear weapons complex, namely, the enterprises engaged in developing nuclear warheads and ammunition, and weapons-grade plutonium and uranium. The United States gained access to all top-secret facilities in Russia. Also, the agreement was almost unilateral in nature.
Under the second agreement, the Americans made 170 more visits to our enrichment plants, touring their most restricted areas, such as mixing units and storage facilities. The world’s most powerful nuclear enrichment plant – the Urals Electrochemical Combine – even had a permanent American observation post. Permanent jobs were created directly at the workshops of this combine where the American specialists went to work every day. The rooms they were sitting in at these top-secret Russian facilities had American flags, as is always the case.
In addition, a list was drawn up of 100 American specialists from 10 different US organisations who were entitled to conduct additional inspections at any time and without any warning. All this lasted for 10 years. Under this agreement, 500 tonnes of weapons-grade uranium were removed from military circulation in Russia, which is equivalent to about 20,000 nuclear warheads.
The HEU-LEU programme has become one of the most effective measures of true disarmament in the history of humankind – I say this with full confidence. Each step on the Russian side was closely monitored by American specialists, at a time when the United States limited itself to much more modest reductions of its nuclear arsenal, and did so on a purely goodwill basis.
Our specialists also visited enterprises of the US nuclear arms complex but only at their invitation and under conditions set by the US side.
As you see, the Russian side demonstrated absolutely unprecedented openness and trust. Incidentally – and we will probably talk about this later – it is also common knowledge what we received from this: total neglect of our national interests, support for separatism in the Caucasus, military action that circumvented the UN Security Council, such as the bombing of Yugoslavia and Belgrade, the introduction of troops into Iraq and so on. Well, this is easy to understand: once the condition of the nuclear complex, the armed forces and the economy had been seen, international law appeared to be unnecessary.
In the 2000s our cooperation with the United States entered a new stage of truly equitable partnership. It was marked by the singing of a number of strategic treaties and agreements on peaceful uses of nuclear energy, which is known in the US as the 123 Agreement. But to all intents and purposes, the US side unilaterally halted work within its framework in 2014.
The situation around the 2000 Plutonium Management and Disposition Agreement (PMDA) of August 20 (signed in Moscow) and September 1 (in Washington) is perplexing and alarming. In accordance with the protocol to this agreement, the sides were supposed to take reciprocal steps to irreversibly convert weapons-grade plutonium into mixed oxide (MOX) fuel and burn it in nuclear plants, so that it could not be used for military purposes. Any changes in this method were only allowed by consent of the sides. This is written in the agreement and protocols to it.
What did Russia do? We developed this fuel, built a plant for mass production and, as we pledged in the agreement, built a BN-800 plant that allowed us to safely burn this fuel. I would like to emphasise that Russia fulfilled all of its commitments.
What did our American partners do? They started building a plant on the Savannah River Site. Its initial price tag was $4.86 billon but they spent almost $8 billion, brought construction to 70 percent and then froze the project. But, to our knowledge, the budget request for 2018 includes $270 million for the closure and mothballing of this facility. As usual, a question arises: where is the money? Probably stolen. Or they miscalculated something when planning its construction. Such things happen. They happen here all too often. But we are not interested in this, this is not our business. We are interested in what happens with uranium and plutonium. What about the disposal of plutonium? Dilution and geological storage of the plutonium is suggested. But this completely contradicts the spirit and letter of the agreement, and, most important, does not guarantee that the dilution is not reconverted into weapons-grade plutonium. All this is very unfortunate and bewildering.
Next. Russia ratified the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty more than 17 years ago. The USA has not done so yet.
A critical mass of problems is building up in global security. As is known, in 2002 the United States pulled out of the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. And despite being initiators of the Convention on the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons and international security, they initiated that agreement themselves, they are failing to meet their commitments. They remain as of today the only and largest holder of this form of weapon of mass destruction. Moreover, the USA has pushed back the deadline for eliminating their chemical weapons from 2007 to as far as 2023. It does not look proper for a nation that claims to be a champion of non-proliferation and control.
In Russia, on the contrary, the process was completed on September 27 of this year. By doing so our country has made a significant contribution to enhancing international security. By the way, the western media preferred to keep quiet, not to notice it, though there was one fleeting mention somewhere in Canada, but that was it, then silence. Meanwhile, the chemical weapons arsenal stockpiled by the Soviet Union is enough to destroy life on the planet multiple times over.
I believe that it is time to abandon an obsolete agenda. I am referring to what was. Without a doubt, we should be looking forward, we have to stop looking back. I am talking about this so as to understand the origins of the current situation that is taking shape.
It is high time for a frank discussion among the global community rather than just a group of the chosen, allegedly the most worthy and advanced. Representatives of different continents, cultural and historical traditions, political and economic systems. In a changing world, we cannot afford to be inflexible, closed off, or unable to respond clearly and quickly. Responsibility for the future – this is what should unite us, especially in times like the current ones when everything is changing rapidly.
Never before has humankind possessed such power as it does now. The power over nature, space, communications, and its own existence. However, this power is diffuse: its elements are in the hands of states, corporations, public and religious associations, and even individual citizens. Clearly, harnessing all these elements in a single, effective and manageable architecture is not an easy task. It will take hard, painstaking work to achieve this. And Russia, I will note, is willing to take part in it together with any partners who are interested.
Colleagues, how do we see the future of the international order and the global governance system? For example, in 2045, when the UN will mark its centennial anniversary? Its creation has become a symbol of the fact that humanity, in spite of everything, is capable of developing common rules of conduct and following them. Whenever these rules were not followed, it inevitably resulted in crises and other negative consequences.
However, in recent decades, there have been several attempts to belittle the role of this organisation, to discredit it, or simply to assume control over it. All these attempts predictably failed, or reached a dead end. In our opinion, the UN, with its universal legitimacy, must remain the centre of the international system. Our common goal is to raise its authority and effectiveness. There is no alternative to the UN today.
With regard to the right of veto in the Security Council, which is also sometimes challenged, you may recall that this mechanism was designed and created in order to avoid direct confrontation of the most powerful states, as a guarantee against arbitrariness and recklessness, so that no single country, even the most influential country, could give the appearance of legitimacy to its aggressive actions.
Of course, let us face it, the experts are here, and they know that the UN has legitimised the actions of individual participants in international affairs after the fact. Well, at least that is something, but it will not lead to any good, either.
Reforms are needed, the UN system needs improvement, but reforms can only be gradual, evolutionary and, of course, they must be supported by the overwhelming majority of the participants in the international process within the organisation itself, by broad consensus.
The guarantee of the UN effectiveness lies in its representative nature. The absolute majority of the world’s sovereign states are represented in it. The fundamental principles of the UN should be preserved for years and decades to come, since there is no other entity that is capable of reflecting the entire gamut of international politics.
Today, new centres of influence and growth models are emerging, civilisational alliances, and political and economic associations are taking shape. This diversity does not lend itself to unification. So, we must strive to harmonise cooperation. Regional organisations in Eurasia, America, Africa, the Asia-Pacific region should act under the auspices of the United Nations and coordinate their work.
However, each association has the right to function according to its own ideas and principles that correspond to its cultural, historical and geographical specifics. It is important to combine global interdependence and openness with preserving the unique identity of each nation and each region. We must respect sovereignty as the basis underlying the entire system of international relations.
Colleagues, no matter what amazing heights technology can reach, history is, of course, made by humans. History is made by people, with all their strengths and weaknesses, great achievements and mistakes. We can have only a shared future. There can be no separate futures for us, at least, not in the modern world. So, the responsibility for ensuring that this world is conflict-free and prosperous lies with the entire international community.
As you may be aware, the 19th World Festival of Youth and Students is taking place in Sochi. Young people from dozens of countries are interacting with their peers and discussing matters that concern them. They are not hampered by cultural, national or political differences, and they are all dreaming about the future. They believe that their lives, the lives of younger generations will be better, fairer and safer. Our responsibility today is to do our best to make sure that these hopes come true.
Thank you very much for your attention.
today I watched part of the debate in Valdai…
Putin is some levels above the current leaderships … that’s The Guy!
A great and very important speech. The depths of the US duplicity and cheating with all agreements with Russia and globally was highlighted very clearly.
As VVP says – everyone needs to work together.
On the same day the waffle waitress Haley is trashing Russia at a George Bush Institute hate fest with Albright and Rice (Trump not spared). Saying Russian meddling in the US election (Boris Yeltsin anyone?) was an act of war! – no evidence provided as usual.
The contrast between VVP’s speech and Haley really sums up the current state of world affairs. I know which country’s leader and Govt. I would want to be working with and trust……
speech is congruent with VVP’s expressed analysis of USSR ending due to inflexibility as result of ideology…in particular, adaptability… at http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/55882 last bit is
a telegraphing of this..
“…Fyodor Lukyanov: Thank you very much, Mr President. I would like to ask you to clarify something. You mentioned science and technology as perhaps the most crucial factor today. Yet even we, the current living generations, remember outbursts of euphoria over the importance of technology, and later that euphoria faded somehow and it became clear that what has always been, the fundamentals – territory, demography – are still eternal, and while technologies are adapted somehow, the fundamentals remain most crucial.
Why do you think it has the potential now to be a game changer?
Vladimir Putin: The things you mentioned do remain eternal, fundamental values. It is no accident that the Torah calls giving up territory a great sin. Both territory and the wealth of the land, people – those all remain the most crucial factors.
But today there has been a qualitative change. The rate of change is so high. Mr Gref must have told you (he can tell such tales till dawn) that it is becoming plain to see – science and technology is becoming the decisive factor in the area of military security and international politics. Everything is happening so fast, and the changes are irreversible.
Fyodor Lukyanov: Thank you….”
US also, it seems, suffers from inflexibility and ideology…
“Meanwhile, the chemical weapons arsenal stockpiled by the Soviet Union is enough to destroy life on the planet multiple times over.”
I checked the quote on the Kremlin site, and it is correct, but I can’t help but feel that it should not read “Soviet Union” but United States, instead.
This should be investigated. Sovjet Union or the United States, it is not a small thing, which one.
Again, President Putin shows he is head and shoulders about the rest of the diplomats and leaders of this world. I watched selected snippets and one sticks in my mind, probably forever. The last question he took after his speech was asked by an American news type, an elderly lady. Her question was in essence why was President Putin so negative concerning Russia’s ‘partners’ in EU and US, after all, US and EU were only trying to help Russia and maintain world peace and President Putin was reinforcing every negative stereotype concerning America and did it bother President Putin at all to reinforce these stereotypes.
President Putin proceeded to politely remind the lady of some of the betrayals, and that is what they are, betrayals, that US has done in the last couple years. He tossed in the current anti Russian hysterics in US and the fact that Russia is blamed for ‘someone’ losing the election last year and for pretty much everything else going ‘wrong’ in US with the possible exception of the breakout of adolescent acne in Sasquach Flats, Idaho.
President Putin spoke of the world’s troubles more than once in his speech and again offered cooperation and mutual efforts with USA concerning the world. However, as he often has of late, he reminded Foggy Bottom yet again that future negative actions against Russia will be met with symmetrical reactions, in other words he said Russia will take no negative actions against USA but will reply in kind to future negative actions from USA against Russia.The problem is every time President Putin offers an olive branch to Foggy Bottom, TPTB in that swamp take it as a sign of weakness and continue on with their foolishness and on the other hand TPTB scream bloody murder when Russia does take actions opposed to USA actions or wishes.
I do not know what the answer is to bring both parties to the negotiating table and iron out their differences but track records are fact and plainly visible and it seems Foggy Bottom thinks they are above reproach and can continue doing as they have done for the last 25 and more years, treaties and understandings be damned. What worries me is it is obvious now that Foggy Bottom and Five Points believe their own propaganda promulgated against Russia even though they can not possible know otherwise but that they are the source of the very same propaganda they believe. I just hope that this belief does not lead to war but at this time it certainly looks like war is coming.
Auslander
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link to relevant video reporter question and Putin’s reply @03:18 —mod-hs
link to youtube goto 03:18 for reporter question
Never The Last One http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGCY8KK A Deep Look In To Russia, Her Culture And Her Armed Forces
An Incident On Simonka https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ERKH3IU NATO Is Invited To Leave Sevastopol, One Way Or The Other.
Hi Aus!
I’ll suggest this:
“answer”?
A clear statement of the present day condition would, some experts say, strongly imply that the thing everyone is expecting is a revolution in DC such that the US becomes contract capable.
This is because the methods of the US no longer get useful results, the environment has changed.
If that happens, a change of methodologies in DC, the US can save itself by abandoning the empire. Otherwise…the wreckage will be colonized, possibly by cockroaches.
That implies that a revolution in DC is inescapable. Hard to imagine though…
And not very pretty, eh?
LZ
First. Mod-hs, thanks for the link to the lady’s questions and statements and VVP’s reply.
LZ99
The empire will never change nor will it ever become contract capable.
Auslander
I agree, Auslander, so far as “will”, in the sense of the German “wollen”. But what I wrote of was the US abandoning empire to save itself…because it has no other realistic choice. This is not “will” but “shall”… (Of course death is always an “option”.)
The US then might (may) become contract capable…this would constitute a revolution. Contract would then be reliable, because this would benefit all parties. Game theory stuff. To survive US has to come to contract capable condition.
The empire shall change, never mind “will”. I agree that if “will” were the decisive factor the empire would not change. People “will” what they like, if they can. Fact is empire is in collapse, many see this. Where does collapse end? With revolution? I expect so. Is logic. Not desire.
This approximately the idea…http://theduran.com/the-us-has-two-realistic-options-save-itself-or-destroy-the-world-in-trying-to-do-so/
The offer is open, America can abandon empire and undergo revolution, or simply undergo revolution and then lose empire. Or perhaps lose empire unwillingly, and then revolution. Second revolution may involve cockroaches, as these, they say, can live in radiation flux that is lethal to men. All pathways lead to revolution in US, though this seems improbable at present, it’s the logic of the thing.
Best to Aus, as he has my respect.
LZ
“the breakout of adolescent acne in Sasquach Flats, Idaho”….Putin did also this, to undermine the American society, and it is not funny as you think to have acne when you are 17.
Tomsen,
Of course he did it, he does everything, he never sleeps and is always thinking up new ways to spread turmoil and dissension in the ranks of the great unwashed masses of humanity ensconced in USA.
I may be old, not getting old but old, but I haven’t forgotten the dreaded 2 cm wide zit appearing the afternoon before your big Saturday night date with one of the local lovelies. What else is one to do with life’s little foibles besides laugh at them, bitter as some of the memories may be?
Auslander
Vladimir Putin’s full speech on double standards in case of Catalonia,
EU, Kosovo, uranium deal with US, UN…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdZsuuJ-6Lc
Jack Ma delivers speech Valdai Club in Sochi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q3jqchwT6I
One small correction.
“Meanwhile, the chemical weapons arsenal stockpiled by the Soviet Union is enough to destroy life on the planet multiple times over”.
Surely instead of “is”, the correct word should be “was”. Otherwise the sentence completely contradicts what Mr Putin has just been saying.
Perhaps it is because Dostoyevsky intrigues me so much and he works with triads often—3 levels of meaning etc. ( as did other writers such as Shakespeare in King Lear) that Putin’s formulation seems so correct: That is the relationship between man-machine-land ( meaning pure physicality, the earth?) and the rapidly changing technology/information world from which there is no turning back are the challenges of the future which is upon us now.
The only leader who has the integrity to pose the crucial questions facing mankind is in the East. What is happening in the Anglo-American sphere just breaks my heart.
Not to be maudlin but one is reminded these days of Ladinsky’s rendering Hafiz’s poem: ( yes, these are his works “based on the true story” type of non translations but based on the work The Divan of Hafez by Henry Wilberforce-Clarke) As pointed out by Mr. Mazaheri these are a bit “new age-ish” I have found that mystics, however, do speak the same language which is to attempt to describe the indescribable …..let Robots without heart intelligence and functioning pineal/pituitary glandular system attempt this and make it work for others.
The Quintessence of Loneliness
“I am like a heroin addict in my longing for a sublime state,
For that ground of Conscious Nothing
Where the Rose ever Blooms
O, the Friend has done me a great favor
And has so thoroughly ruined my life.
What else would you expect Seeing G-d would do?
Out of the ashes of this broken frame
There is a noble rising son pining for death
Because,
Since we first met, Beloved,
I have become a foreigner
to every world
Except that one
In which there is only You
Or—Me.
Now that the heart has held
That which can never be touched
My subsistence is a blessed
Desolation.
And from that I cry for more loneliness
I am lonely.
I am so lonely, dear Beloved,
For the quintessence of Loneliness
For what is more alone than G-d?
Hafiz,
What is more pure and alone,
Magnificently Sovereign,
Than G-d.”
The world needs more poetry….fight the Machine! I will obtain other translations of Hafez for future reference.
Preasident Putin says: “At one time the apologists for globalisation were trying to convince us that universal economic interdependence was a guarantee against conflicts and geopolitical rivalry. Alas, this did not happen. Moreover, the nature of the contradictions grew more complicated, becoming multilayer and nonlinear.”
Correct me if I am wrong: Did BRICS not in their recent press releases confirm support for globilisation? Also in the recent energy summit President Putin mentioned the “globilisation of energy”.
This problem you bring up is called “nominalism”.
As though the name of a thing or process has more intrinsic reality than the thing itself. This in itself is a deception. Dissect the deception into its component parts and weigh things such as honesty, intent, clarity of thought and spirit, and record of performance, based on cautious openness, with flexible, alert skepticism, not naivete.
The fact is that the planet (“globe”) is getting smaller because its distances both in physical terms and in terms of access to and knowledge of many more areas of the globe are spanned with less and less time, more and more speed.
Minions of the Empire hail these facts and salivate over their possible use of these facts to control the whole shebang and dominate it to their advantage and to the enslavement of others. Think of George H.W Bush salivating over his announced “New World Order” before his first and only term ended, as Russia was prostrated by the designs of himself and his masters.
Others, with contrary intent going back to the Non-Aligned Movement, or even the more idealistic in the Socialist or even Communist movements, the Labor Movements etc spoke, and still speak in terms of “a JUST New World Economic Order”.
The typical American of right-wing “cowboy” mentality (“my F-150, my gun, my money”) being a nominalist, detests both formulations of “order”, cannot distinguish between the differing intentions behind them (slavery vs freedom), and basically shuts down in confusion and fear of being tricked.
In so doing, these dupes fall victim to age old “divide and conquer” tactics of the Empire and are basically rendered a non-factor …..or worse (a battering ram against positive forces in the world) by virtue of their epistemological and cultural backwardness, as evidenced by their pathologically entrenched mental disability…..of which nominalism is a key component.
So, working toward NO conscious particular “order” of either desirable or evil intent….such dupes by being a either a non-thinking non-factor OR an error-prone radical activist (racist, terrorist, religious fanatic or some other form of dementia) a rage-filled instrument of chaos and DIS-order become tools of the very New World Order of slavery and Empire they say they oppose.
But they don’t know how to oppose it. Because they can’t think straight. Which muddleheadedness starts with being mesmerized and brainwashed by mere names of things (nominalism) rather than being more perceptive about the inner reality of things.
“Globalization” as promoted by the Empire is abominable, IMHO.
Yet, Far Away Analyst, you are correct that an actual process that IS occurring is (and is “up for grabs” by good or by evil….) occasionally carefully and with distinctly different intent in its use…to DEFLECT it from the globalization of nefarious intent…IS referred to by “good guys” lile Vladimir Putin…..also by the same word…but with diffrent content and intent, and not nearly so much mindless cheerleading.
JUDO!!!
The reality of a shrinking globe (but a solar system and galaxy more accessible to Humanity!) as spoken of by Putin and I maintain Xi as well is a completely different sort of “globalization” (sovereignty and national interest and cultural traditions survive and enrich each other, rather than being blended into raw sewage by Soros et al) which is the only realistic (because it has the physical, spiritual, financial, military means to defend itself from the other “Order” ) alternative to the Empire.
Discernment. Almost impossible without getting beyond the brainwashing that is nominalism.
Clear thoughts, Bro.
Today, when I was walking over millions of yellow red and brown leaves
I was not far from you, crossing roaring country roads, thinking about
machine-world where you have to be an assesory to guide it right.
Zero time for the inner space
thought about the little time left for it
free time, greatest luxury
before ‘free time only’
But in the machine-world is a
polite collegiality normal
I like Putin’s highlighting
of professionalism with him
as example – great educator
Thank you for your thoughtful reply, Clear Thoughts, Bro. Your sumary (second last paragraph) definately sounds plausible, but considering the times (and the world) we live in, we would be wise to rather remain on the sceptical side of things (always).
What you are proposing – or rather what Russia and China´s vision entails – as you explained it, could, in a way, just be another version of the same thing… (another form of “NWO”) – just with a more human face and with more freedom(s), but still more or less the same idea. So, an “Eastern NWO” as opposed to a Western NWO.
But what about a NO-NWO? That´s the direction we thought Russia and China was heading to, but this seems to not be the case
Russia and China´s vision of a Eurasian Union is not much different from the European Union or any other political and economic union of states or countries – which just comes down to global monopolies (in the form of centralised regional country groupings) fighting over resources – and these unions all continue to comply with global “management systems” such as WTO, IMF, World Bank.
Beyond any of these intermediate NWO varieties what we need is genuine decentrilized (key word) sovereignity and autonomy for nations, self determination of cultures and cooperation based on truly independent criteria.(This would be real multi-polarity).
Due to resource depletion and the natural will of all peoples to be soverign, our destiny is ultimately a NO-NWO.
Aside from all political considerations, Putin is just plain IMPRESSIVE.
This is a leader who knows how the world works, and knows how to make it work better.
No Western leader since FDR and Churchill has shown the same level of practical wisdom. US leaders in the last 30 years have been infantile idiots by comparison. Their “knowledge” is weird psychotic delusions, and their “solutions” are genocidal.
That is a remarkable speech and would be printed in it’s entirety as an oped if we had any honest media. Let’s see if it even referenced anywhere.