This is the big RT headline: Putin and Macron agree on measures to halt escalation in Ukraine.
Here is a machine translation of the official French statement:
Telephone interview with Vladimir PUTIN, President of the Russian Federation.
The President of the Republic held a telephone conversation with the President of the Russian Federation, Mr. Vladimir PUTIN, on Sunday, February 20.
They agreed on the following points :
– the resumption of work under the Normandy format on the basis of exchanges and proposals made by Ukraine in recent days.
– intensive work to allow the holding of a trilateral contact group meeting in the coming hours with the objective of obtaining from all stakeholders a ceasefire commitment on the line of contact.
– the need to give priority to a diplomatic solution to the current crisis and to do everything possible to achieve it. For this, intensive diplomatic work will be conducted in the coming days and weeks. The Minister for Europe and Foreign Affairs, Mr. Jean-Yves LE DRIAN, will meet with his counterpart Mr. LAVROV in the coming days and several consultations will be held in Paris to this effect.
– this diplomatic work should make it possible to make progress on the basis of the latest exchanges by involving all stakeholders (Europeans, allies, Russians and Ukrainians) in order to lead, if the conditions are met, to a meeting at the highest level with a view to defining a new order of peace and security in Europe.
– in order to conduct this work in serious conditions, the two Heads of State made firm commitments to take all necessary actions to avoid escalation, reduce risks and preserve peace.
So what is going on here?
First, the obvious: Macron wants to win the upcoming presidential election in France and being the “savior of Europe” would give him something to brag about.
Second, the no less obvious: Macron is trying to bypass his Anglo “partners” since neither the US nor the UK want anything short of an open Russian military intervention in the Ukraine. Notice the words “all stakeholders (Europeans, allies, Russians and Ukrainians)” which mentions neither the US nor the UK ( here “allies” is just an empty but politically correct placeholder term).
Third, and that is obvious too: the Anglos don’t give a damn about Macron or his plans.
Which all begs the question: why does Putin even bother?
The answer, however, points to a different kind logic on the Russian side.
First, Putin and Lavrov have as a policy to talk to (almost) everybody (“Ze” being the current exception). This is the Russian way of diplomacy: talk to countries that are each other’s mortal enemies, like Israel and Iran and talk to non-entities like Scholz or Truss. The Kremlin does not care how hard Lavrov or Putin need to “hold their mental noses” when talking to dishonorable, cowardly, liars if that gets them some tangible benefit (more about that in a sec).
And the Russians will always do everything in their power to avoid war, small or big.
Folks in the West are used to “western diplomacy” in which you only talk (i.e. “give orders”) to your colonies, never talk to your opponents (who are always demonized) and where NOT negotiating is seen as a sign of “strength”.
In Russia not negotiating as a principle is seen as simply stupid and counter-productive.
Furthermore, while Macron clearly wants to repeat the “feat” of Sarkozy who claimed (falsely!) to have stopped the 08.08.08 war, the Russians see another very tangible benefit of talking to Macron: creating even more divisions in the West as a whole and in Europe specifically.
Consider this: the Russian ultimatum has already had a lot of highly positive effects:
- The US/NATO, after years of totally ignoring Russia, are not only willing to talk to the Kremlin, they are even picking up past Russian proposals and presenting them as their own.
- Europe is afraid, very afraid. Not only of a major war with all that implies (including waves of refugees), but also from an energetic/economic collapse in case the US/UK prevail.
- The Ukros in power have suddenly realized that they might be targeted. Personally. Hence the flight of Ukie oligarchs to the EU and “Ze” “trip to Europe to participate in the Munich conference”.
- The Chinese now see that Russia is committed (I will clarify to what exactly below) and are throwing their considerable weight behind Russia.
You could use a Russian expression and say that Putin stuck a big stick in the West’s “anthill” and the said ants are now running around like crazy.
In that one single move, Russia achieved more than over several decades and, so far, she achieved that at a truly small price.
Having said that, I need to repeat something crucial here:
==>>This is NOT, repeat, NOT about the LDNR or even the Ukraine.<<==
Russia (and China!) wants a different multi-polar world order, one based on the full sovereignty of all countries, one in which international law serves as the basis for relations between sovereign states, one in which security is always defined and understood as collective security and one in which the United Nations remain the sole top authority to enforce the rules of international law.
The Kremlin often says that it wants a new security arrangement in Europe. And that is true. But, let’s not be naive here, the US domination over its European colonies is the cornerstone of Anglo world domination, so if the US/UK “lose” Europe, they will be finished as wannabe world hegemons.
The Russians and the Chinese are now leading the entire Zone B towards this goal by a careful mix of unilateral policies including the gradual de-dollarization of Eurasia and the energy markets, military pressure on the US and its colonies and by developing their REAL economies (as opposed to the West’s FIRE economies).
Okay, but what does that mean in practice?
That is too early to tell.
First, let’s see what, if anything, comes out of the French initiative.
Second, Macron’s initiatives will have zero impact on the LOC in the LDNR where exchanges of fire are constantly taking place but where, at least so far, the Ukies did not launch a ground assault across the LOC. But they might, literally any second now, both sides are fully prepared for such an event.
Then there is the very real risk of a major false flag event organized by the Anglos. The entire AngloZionist propaganda machine is now poised to instantly “pick up” such a false flag and blame it all on Russia. I don’t see how Macron could do anything about that, even assuming he wanted to in the first place.
So let’s not jump to conclusions and see what happens next week with both Macron and Blinken.
In the meantime, the Ukies are trying to scare the planet with rumors about them ditching their non-nuclear status and develop nukes. Please do not worry about that, at most what the Ukies can do is make a “dirty bomb”, but they exactly *zero* change to ever acquire real nukes (and, besides, if such a risk was even remotely real, Russia would take any and all actions to eliminate any such possibility).
The Ukies also sent a diversionary group into the LDNR but the local state security quickly intercepted them: 1 Ukie dead, one taken prisoner. Two lightly wounded in the LDNR special forces. Below is the video of that anti-terrorist operation.
Andrei
Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and US President Joe Biden accepted the proposal of French President Empress Macron to hold a summit on security and strategic stability in Europe.
champs elysees
Telephone interviews with Joe BIDEN, President of the United States of America, and with Vladimir PUTIN, President of the Russian Federation.
The President of the Republic spoke with the President of the United States, Mr. Joe BIDEN and the President of the Russian Federation, Mr. Vladimir Putin.
He proposed a summit to be held between President BIDEN and President PUTIN and then with relevant stakeholders to discuss security and strategic stability in Europe.
Presidents BIDEN and PUTIN have both accepted the principle of such a summit.
The substance will have to be prepared by Secretary BLINKEN and Minister LAVROV during their meeting on Thursday 24 February.
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The President of the Republic will work with all stakeholders to prepare the content of these discussions.
https://www-elysee-fr.translate.goog/en/emmanuel-macron/2022/02/20/spoke-with-the-president-biden-and-the-president-poutine?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=ru&_x_tr_hl= en&_x_tr_pto=sc
The heads of the United States and the Russian Federation “agreed to the provisions of such a summit meeting.” Questions for the summit will be prepared by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Sergey Lavrov and US Secretary of State Anton Blinkin during their meeting on February 24.
Earlier on Sunday, French President Emmanuel Macron had two phone calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin and also held telephone conversations with US President Joe Biden, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
Biden had a phone call with Macron on Sunday
White House press office
“President Biden’s secure communications conversation with French President Macron ended at 4:02 pm ET (00:02 Moscow time). The conversation lasted 15 minutes, the White House press pool said.
They discussed ongoing diplomatic engagement and containment measures in response to the buildup of Russian forces on Ukraine’s borders.”
Agence France-Presse reported earlier on Sunday that Macron intends to speak with Biden and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. The agency noted that the consultations would be about finding ways to reduce tensions in eastern Ukraine (by implementing Minsk-2))). Earlier that day, Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke to Macron on the phone.
Readout of President Biden’s Call with President Emmanuel Macron of France
02, 20, 2022
President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. spoke with President Emmanuel Macron of France today. They discussed ongoing diplomacy and deterrence efforts in response to Russia’s military buildup on the borders of Ukraine.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/20/readout-of-president-bidens-call-with-president-emmanuel-macron-of-france-2/
Using a broad brush to paint a picture, it’s clear that the European Union, typified by France and Germany, don’t want to see war break out in Ukraine and the Russians agree and so does Zelensky.
Arguably the damage to Europe’s economy, should war break out, would be worse than the damage to Russia. Fortunately for Russia they have a rich and powerful ally in China to support them.
In contrast, London and Washinton don’t care that much if there is a conflict in Ukraine. They see advantages to a conflict breaking out. They don’t imagine the conflict will affect them directly. The fighting, destruction and refugee crisis will be confined to Ukraine and Europe after all!
The quality of the leadership of Europe is so bad, so powerless, so incompetent, so deluded, so ideological at the present time, that Europe looks like a rudderless ship drifting towards the rocks whilst the crew argue over the gender of the person who should be allowed to grab the wheel. Very pathetic, very sad, and very dangerous.
The Kremlin confirmed the second conversation between Putin and Macron about Ukraine in a day
According to the press secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov, the presidents of Russia and France emphasized the need to continue the dialogue between the foreign ministries and political advisers in the “Norman format”
MOSCOW, 21 February. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin and French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday night had another telephone conversation on the situation in Ukraine. This was announced by the press secretary of the head of the Russian state Dmitry Peskov.
“Yesterday, at about 1 a.m., on the initiative of President Macron, the leaders of Russia and France had their second telephone conversation of the day. The presidents continued to discuss the situation around Ukraine.
They emphasized the need to continue the dialogue between the foreign ministries and political advisers [in the Normandy format (RF, Germany, France, Ukraine)],” Peskov said. “Contacts between Russia and France at the level of foreign ministers are also possible in the near future.
In fact, today, somewhere around one in the morning, there was the second [in the last 24 hours] telephone conversation with President Macron. Macron himself initiated this telephone conversation.
tension is growing.
Active contacts continue. [The leaders] agreed to continue the dialogue through the foreign ministries, as well as political advisers,” Peskov said.
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https://tass.ru/politika/13779525
Press Secretary of the President of Russia
– A summit of the leaders of the Russian Federation and the United States, Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden, can be organized at any time, if the heads of state deem it appropriate.
“Of course, we do not rule it out, and if necessary, of course, the presidents of Russia and the United States can at any time decide on contacts, either telephone or personal. This will be their decision.
While there are no concrete plans in this regard – there is an understanding that contacts will be maintained at the level of foreign ministers, we proceed from the fact that [Russian Foreign Minister Sergei] Lavrov may meet with his American counterpart [Anthony Blinken] this week. We also do not rule out contacts between the ministers of Russia and France.
A Putin-Biden summit is possible if the heads of state deem it appropriate, a decision can be made at any time,” Peskov said.
https://tass.ru/politika/13780541
When a problem arises for a Western politician, the question always is not “What can I do?”, it is “What can I say”.
Blair’s “New Labour” Government epitomised this, the answer to any problem was always a carefully crafted speech, which as a rule, was never followed by action. Lying to Parliament about Iraq WMD is a perfect example.
The truth was irrelevant, it was just a question of finding the right words to achieve the desired result.
British Courts have formally agreed in a test case that promises made during an election campaign are meaningless, and can be broken with impunity.
The word of a Western politician is worthless. How can Russia ensure that promises made by the West are promises kept?
Penalty clauses! )))
The United States left the INF Treaty without hypersonic missiles and new ICBMs, in addition, every year losing its nuclear stockpile by as much as an order of magnitude.
We, too, will go out alone. ))) And we will place mobile missile systems of medium and shorter range (on land).
Moreover, they are already on combat duty, it remains only to officially declare that their combat equipment includes unified launchers for medium-range hypersonic cruise missiles Caliber, Onyx, Zircons, Iskander, …. the range of which is up to 5500 km .
Including with nuclear warheads, and we have more tactical nuclear weapons than the United States by 15 times (more today))).
It seems that a major war is inevitable!? It is enough to understand the opening statement from the Grand Jury (the World Crime Tribunal happening now) by Dr Reiner Fuellmich, from 5th February and you will understand why:
https://odysee.com/@GrandJury:f/Grand-Jury-1-EN:0
Almost, everything else is smoke and mirrors to hide the campaign of the depopulation, dehumanization, transhumanization and enslavement of the mankind. Most of the world leaders are in on it. The difference is only whose computer technology will prevail (as injected into the people). Simply, by downloading some applications for detection of Bluetooth devices on our mobile phones, such as Bluetooth finder and scanner, AirGuard Pro, LightBlue etc.), we can see that most of the injected people broadcast BT signal (of BLE type) with a MAC address (Iphones and Samsung phones may need specific BT detection apps). The Apple, Microsoft, Elbus, Huawei etc. nano-processors could be detected by some apps (like LightBlue). Anyway, for those interested in the objective reality, some sources like Spanish website orwell.city contain a lot of info about this issue.
Now, the question is – which remotely controlled bio-chemical robots will prevail after the next war? Whatever happens, everything will be nicely rationalized by those who survive, because, anything can be rationalized.
It is needless to say that normal human beings are not supposed to broadcast Bluetooth signals, however, if we were really normal, we would not come in a situation like that. Aware, humane and conscious beings can not fall into such traps. History of normal human beings can not look like a history of an ordinary slaughter house, like it is ours, with psychopathological activities taking place, as we speak.
Did not Dostoevsky write about these times, long ago:
From Crime and Punishment (trans. Constance Garnett):
“He [Raskolnikov] dreamt that the whole world was condemned to a terrible new strange plague that had come to Europe from the depths of Asia. All were to be destroyed except a very few chosen. Some new sorts of microbes were attacking the bodies of men, but these microbes were endowed with intelligence and will. Men attacked by them became at once mad and furious. But never had men considered themselves so intellectual and so completely in possession of the truth as these sufferers, never had they considered their decisions, their scientific conclusions, their moral convictions so infallible. Whole villages, whole towns and peoples went mad from the infection. All were excited and did not understand one another. Each thought that he alone had the truth and was wretched looking at the others, beat himself on the breast, wept, and wrung his hands. They did not know how to judge and could not agree what to consider evil and what good; they did not know whom to blame, whom to justify. Men killed each other in a sort of senseless spite. They gathered together in armies against one another, but even on the march the armies would begin attacking each other, the ranks would be broken and the soldiers would fall on each other, stabbing and cutting, biting and devouring each other. The alarm bell was ringing all day long in the towns; men rushed together, but why they were summoned and who was summoning them no one knew. The most ordinary trades were abandoned, because everyone proposed his own ideas, his own improvements, and they could not agree. The land too was abandoned. Men met in groups, agreed on something, swore to keep together, but at once began on something quite different from what they had proposed. They accused one another, fought and killed each other. There were conflagrations and famine. All men and all things were involved in destruction. The plague spread and moved further and further. Only a few men could be saved in the whole world. They were a pure chosen people, destined to found a new race and a new life, to renew and purify the earth, but no one had seen these men, no one had heard their words and their voices.”
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So, there is a good news as well, as per the Eastern Gnosis (as represented by Gurdjieff, Ouspensky and Mouravieff), there are (or will be?!) people among us who would be able to override their (programmed) personalities and connect themselves to the Real Consciousness (The Absolute Consciousness, known as ‘Christ’, as well) and manifest it in this reality. At the end, I am wondering, if we would be able to see such people among us, any time soon, or – we have to become them?!
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Deputy commander of the People’s Militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic: Now is war
Eduard Basurin, deputy People’s Militia commander.
Игорь Маслов РИА Новости / RT
Eduard Basurin, deputy commander of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, in an interview with the “Rossiya 1” channel, speaks of the fact that the conflict has already lasted eight years, but has now entered an “active phase”, “in short, now is war”.
Apart from the shelling and material damage to residential buildings and damage to public infrastructure such as hospitals, schools and substations, there are civilian casualties and soldiers killed as a result of the massive artillery shelling.
North of Donetsk, there had been a breakthrough by Ukrainian units believed to be pushing through to the Russian border, causing panic among the civilian population of the DNR. In the process, the Comintern Open Air Museum was also almost completely destroyed.
In the morning, there had been an attempted act of sabotage at the Donetsk train station, in which the suspected assassin himself died.
Commenting on the discussion of whether genocide is currently being perpetrated against the residents of the rebel republics, Basurin said that as a result of the shelling, there is no longer a water supply in the locality of Dokuchayevsk. This is a clear case of genocide, he said.
https://de.rt.com/international/131481-live-ticker-zur-ukraine-lage/
“It seems that a major war is inevitable!?”
– If you mean the battle between the right and left hemispheres of your brain, then yes – there is a complete rout!
PS Tell the system administrator to adjust or change the algorithm in the processor. And then your bot is insane.
Wrong addressee, I did not write to you.
Now I will indicate to whom I am writing. )))
“Third, and that is obvious too: the Anglos don’t give a damn about Macron or his plans.”
You’re right, they don’t. But there might be a fourth here: What are the American fascist regime usually doing when they are clueless about Russia’s next step? They send the French.
To no avail apparently…
The USA will not now officially force Zelensky to comply with the Minsk agreements – stop shelling, withdraw troops, direct negotiations with the LDNR, reform ….
Biden will get the Nobel Prize even without it. )))
Will not? Or will?
Donbass rebels call on Russia for urgent ‘military assistance
https://www.rt.com/russia/550106-donetsk-request-help-military-moscow/
Is this news authentic?
It’s just raising the stakes in a pre-negotiation game…
Calm down, disinformation is part of the military – and not only – tactics.
Everything is according to plan – now there is an exchange of fakes that are being prepared by both sides. Judging by the media and social networks, there are already more than half a million “Russian” tanks near the border.)))
This is a Network-centric war – get used to it and don’t believe it until you see the official government document or at least not edited and not postakovochnuyu video. Although this does not give any guarantee of truth today.
And the fact is false. )))
Live: Talk of Putin-Biden summit on Ukraine ‘premature’, Kremlin says
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220221-live-talk-of-putin-biden-summit-on-ukraine-premature-kremlin-says
The mentality of plunderer-colonialist-rentier is no less strong among the French than among the Anglos. Only the fertility and diversity of their country has made them a little less crude in their appetites. They have more than a little bad cider to drink and their wives do not all look like old mares. The French are no more trustworthy than the Anglos.
I am reminded of Louis-Ferdinand Céline’s ‘Journey to the End of the Night’, especially his adventures in the post-WW I French colonies in Africa.
Russia claims five Ukrainian soldiers killed in border firefight
Moscow says its forces also destroyed two armored personnel carriers
Russia claims five Ukrainian soldiers killed in border firefight
Russia’s armed forces have reported that its troops have opened fire on a “Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group” that attempted to cross into the country, killing five servicemen and destroying their vehicles.
In a statement issued on Monday, military chiefs said that “a unit of the Southern Military District, alongside a border patrol by the Russian Federal Security Service, prevented a sabotage and reconnaissance group from violating the Russian state border from the territory of Ukraine.”
Five Ukrainian soldiers were killed and no Russian servicemen were injured during the firefight, they reported. The ministry added that during the attack, two combat vehicles belonging to Kiev’s armed forces crossed into Russian territory in an attempt to rescue the alleged saboteurs. Both vehicles are said to have been destroyed.
https://www.rt.com/russia/550119-moscow-claims-five-ukrainian-soldiers-killed/
RT is reporting an open confrontation between Ukraine and Russia.
https://www.rt.com/russia/550119-moscow-claims-five-ukrainian-soldiers-killed/
If 5 soldiers were killed, the sabotage group must have been around 20. Some might even be captured.
The Ukraine is playing with fire.
The UK and Ukraine are claiming Russian APCs crossed the border into Ukraine and/or are escorting a Russian aid convoy. Other reports claim the Russian Southern Military District claimed Ukrainian saboteurs cross into Russia, were intercepted. Two Ukrainian APCs crossed the border and were destroyed.
All this is little better than rumor at this point, since none of the media I’ve seen can be trusted.
I’m irritated by the fact that there is no reliable information source for what is happening either in Donbass or at the border. It’s all either, as Alexander Mercouris says, “informative but unreliable”, or in another language, or so biased as to be worthless.
If the above is true, it would seem that the situation has escalated from random shelling to incursions.
One thing I note about false flags is that they usually require a heightened degree of conflict in order to “justify” them. The party committing the false flag needs to show that the party allegedly committing the infraction was either “evil enough” or “desperate enough” to commit the infraction. That means the conflict has to be escalated beyond the usual background level of conflict. I suspect this escalation of shelling is intended to provide that context. Then comes the incursions to establish that the persons accused of the infraction have the opportunity to commit it. Then comes the false flag itself. In other words, the false flag requires “motives, means, and opportunity” as they say in criminal investigations.
How many times have I read the propaganda?
It is always quite predictable, and consistent across multiple sources.
I ever wonder at the personalities that are capable of, not just hoodwinking their
trusting readers, but lying to themselves when they produce their propaganda.
They have consciences, how do they do it?
Today, and certainly not for the first time, I read a propaganda piece and wondered
at the readers themselves. What explains it? Banality? Indoctrination?
How can they read without reflection? Yes, psychology says that they are protecting
their sense of identity – a profoundly rigid master – but, somewhere inside there must
be an inner voice that rattles it’s own prison bars. “Be True!”
Sometimes I just marvel at the lost souls:
By David Remnick
For The New Yorker
February 21, 2022
After watching most of the Russian National Security Council meeting it’s clear that Putin will be swimming against the current if he does not recognize the two republics. He said he would make a decision later. But would it be a mistake to do so before the next imminent rounds of talks, that Macron is organizing and creating fissures in NATO? Then again the US & NATO will be under no illusions what would happen if these talks fail again and if there is no advancement on Minsk. Somebody talked about how Biden could dismiss the attorney general of Ukraine in an instance. Similarly he could also tell them to abide by Minsk, like he tells Boris Johnson to stand by the Irish Good Friday Agreement, but he doesn’t. We know why, its the old grand strategy of the neo-cons. The NSC were all pessimistic that Ukraine will change. A moratorium on NATO membership is also a non-starter. Recent talk of a nuclear Ukraine just shows how this Kiev regime cannot be trusted.
There was talk on RT that if LPR and DPR are recognized it would result in sanctions.
If there is still time probably best to hold off this de facto recognition. The force of propaganda is so strong that the West genuinely believe Russian troops are already in both republics. This will be seen as another Crimea and further annexations. I think it will inflame the West. The hand has already been dealt, its clear what will happen if nothing changes and Minsk is stalled. Good strong position to go into talks again. I think Putin will wait just a little longer for maybe the inevitable. The NSC meeting live and on TV will give much food for thought and actions.
The UN can never be trusted as long as Uncle $hmuel provides most of the funding and the
location. Get it out of the U$ and expel the U$ from its membership. Then, maybe it will be effective in establishing a “rules based order.”