Note: this article is dated July 20th because it took 2 days to translate it. I think that this is a *must read* for all those who wonder about the nature of the ugle behind-the-scenes infighting between various Russian groups about the future of Novorussia. A huge “thank you!!!” to all those who helped translate this most interesting text.
The Saker
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What Makes Strelkov Feel “Melancholy” – Military-Political Situation Report, July 20, 2014
by Boris Rozhin aka “Colonel Cassad”
Some genuinely do not understand why, for some time now, along with his usual military briefings, Strelkov has been making fairly pessimistic statements. In reality, the reasons here are fairly transparent.
The Change in the Russian Political Line
In May-June, when the political line that changed in April (the question of military intervention was taken off the agenda on April 24) progressively started to influence the operational-tactical situation on Donbass, the hostilities also gradually gained momentum, leading to a scenario in which an irregular militia was forced to fight against a regular army. At the stage when the seizure of power in Donetsk, Lugansk and Slavyansk occurred, this scenario was not initially planned for – everyone was betting on the recognition by the Russian Federation and the intervention by the Russian army.
After the commencement of hostilities and the change in the political line, the agenda became dominated by the question of tacit assistance. So you can understand it from Strelkov’s example, all he had during the three months of fighting in Slavyansk was 2-2.5 thousand men (wielding light arms and heavy machine guns, automatic grenade launchers, ATGMs (many of them non-functional), a few MANPADS, and so on), only 3 tanks, as well as an IS-3 monument taken off the pedestal, several BMPs and BMDs, 4 or 5 Nonas, and several 12.7mm and 23mm calibre antiaircraft guns. This is about the size of one column from the Voyentorg “military supplies store” that the Junta now records almost daily.
That is about all that Strelkov received sitting in Slavyansk for 3 months, and the meager size of this aid was apparent from the amount of equipment that was taken out of Slavyansk at the end and by the very modest trophies that the Junta was able to demonstrate [after taking Slavyansk] (1 BMD, a batch of inoperative ATGMs, a few automatic rifles, and several mortar shells). That is about all that kept Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Nikolayevka, Semyonovka, Krasniy Liman, and other settlements from falling into the hands of the enemy, despite the manpower ratio of 1 to 3.5-4.5 in favour of the Ukrainian army. In other words, it must be understood that, from the standpoint of weaponry, aid was coming in, but in the amounts entirely insufficient to fight an enemy grouping totaling up to 10-12 thousand men, even without taking into account the tanks, the artillery and the air force.
Strelkov’s Appeals for Assistance That is why, with the development of hostilities and the outpacing rate of the enemy’s concentration of its forces, Strelkov started openly to make complaints, the general sense of which could be boiled down to the message that the aid was insufficient. Nevertheless, the curators of Russian policies in Donbass (and this was, first and foremost, Surkov, who was given partial reigns of control over Russian policies in Donbass, while, at the same time, Volodin was pushed to the side) fairly calmly contemplated how the Junta slowly, but surely enveloped Slavyansk, closing the ring of the operational encirclement.
Equally as calmly, they contemplated the enclave in Soledar (which has been defended by the Junta spetsnaz forces – 150-200 men – since the beginning of March), where over 1 million units of light arms were kept, making their way into the hands of the Militia for money (the trade started approximately at the end of April – beginning of May, when the sides of the conflict were noted massively to be armed with old weaponry). In fact, Strelkov himself wrote in the spring that they were forced to buy weapons from the Junta officers.
Also, over the 3 months period, no intelligible assault was organized on the tank base in Artymovosk, despite the fact that even pessimistic estimates suggested that there were 20-25 battle-worthy tanks, without even taking account the possibility of repairing other more-or-less preserved units at the expense of the non-functional ones. Over the months, no one bothered to take the base, let alone create a group to de-blockade Slavyansk by conducting strikes against the columns of the Junta enveloping the city, which would have enabled the Militia to continue to retain Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and so forth.
Despite the fact that Slavyansk was being encircled and was, finally, encircled, no one in Donetsk moved a muscle to assist. Sheer heresy was started to be written about Strelkov’s briefings, to wit “if Strelkov is melancholic, success is not far behind,” even though, looking at his briefings now, they objectively reflected the worsening situation near Slavyansk. The reasons why Strelkov was ignored are fairly obvious – while he fought in Slavyansk, negotiations between Surkov’s people and Akhmetov’s people were being conducted through Donetsk. Moreover, in the city itself, a conspiracy to surrender the city to the Junta was developing. You can read about the political underpinnings of these processes here, where they are covered in greater details: Colonel Cassad LiveJournal.
Strelkov’s Breakout from Slavyansk and Its Significance
On July 2nd, the battles for Nikolayevka commenced, leading to the loss of control over the last significant highway that enabled supplies to flow to Slavayansk. Strelkov grew more “melancholic,” as it became obvious that Slavyansk, along with him and the garrison, were written off, and that no one was going to come to their aid. On July 2nd-3rd, when street battles still persisted in the surrounded Nikolayevka, where Motorola’s unit continued their heroic resistance (even despite the betrayal of two field commanders who stripped the irflank of defences), a decision to break out of the encirclement was adopted in Slavyansk; it must be understood that this decision had both a military and a political component – Strelkov was warned from Moscow that a surrender of Donetsk was being prepared.
In the night of July 4th-5th, the Militia effected a successful breakout, sustaining only minimal casualties. In doing this, Strelkov thwarted the secret negotiations being conducted between Surkov’s people and the people of Akhmetov and Kolomoiskiy (through Kurginyan’s people). The gist of these negotiations was an attempt by near-Kremlin circles to coordinate with the Ukrainian oligarchs the question of a “large Transnistria,” to be fashioned out of the Lugansk and the Donetsk Republics, at the head of which would have been Oleg Tsaryov, with a part of the financing flows feeding the South-East being locked on him.
In these contacts were implicated the mayor of Donetsk, Lukjanchenko (who has since fled to Kiev), the speaker of the Novorossiya Parliament, Pushilin (since dismissed from his position of his own volition), DPR minister of State Security, Khodakovskiy (since dismissed from his position as a minister, with Batallion Vostok having been transformed into a brigade and operationally subordinated to Strelkov’s staff), and police general Pozhidayev (the local command of the Ministry of Internal Affairs was purged almost immediately after the arrival of Strelkov’s brigade in Donetsk). All these people were, in one way or another, connected to Akhmetov. Antjufeev was sent to cleanse the upper echelons of DPR, following which a series of dismissals took place.
The Secret Collusion is Thwarted and the Hostilities Explode
As soon as Strelkov’s retreat from Slavyansk scuttled the secret negotiations, hostilities across the entire front sharply activated – Ukrainian oligarchs, who were contact with Moscow, immediately became the targets of a mass media campaign. Following contacts between Kolomoiskiy’s deputy, Korban, and a person from Kurginyan’s circles, the campaign against Kolomoiskiy in the Ukrainian mass media took on wide-scale proportions, including even traditional SBU [Ukrainian Security Service] leaks, such as the discussion about the preparation of a harassment campaign against Lyashko, the goal of which was to turn the Nazi radicals against one of their sponsors.
At the same time, open declarations by Kolomoiskiy, Filatov and Korban that time had come to confiscate Akhmetov’s property were no longer finding support in the mass media. The Junta mass media en masse defended Akhmetov, who had already given up Mariupol to the Junta and was preparing the groundwork for Donetsk to be surrendered. After the negotiations were thwarted, the Junta completely ceased to have any scruples about destroying cities and the infrastructure (there was no longer any chance that they could be obtained without battle through a collusion with the curators of Kurginyan and co.), as control over Donbass could only be established in a military manner.
Immediately following this, almost right away, the Militia gained access to a fairly significant number of tanks, BMPs, artillery (D-30 howitzers and Govzdika self-propelled artillery systems), and MLRS. To make the point clear, in one week the Militia obtained more heavy armour and military equipment than over the entire preceding three months. This immediately led to operational successes – the “Southern Cauldron” was formed, and the Junta offensive that began on July 1st, became bogged down on all directions by July 13th-14th. It is quite obvious that if the aid that has been provided in July had come in May, in the same quantities, then the battles would have now been taking place somewhere in the vicinity of Izyum, rather than near Donetsk.
Insufficient Piecemeal Military Assistance
At the same time, even despite the ongoing material and technical assistance, which was provided, and continues to be provided, the Junta’s rates of accumulating manpower and military equipment are still higher (without even taking into account the material, technical and organizational assistance from the United States and from NATO). That is why, due to the overall numerical superiority in manpower and military equipment, the Junta regrouped and continued its offensive despite the defeat, attacking the weaker sections of the front (the Militia simply has insufficient manpower and military equipment to defend everything equally well).
For clarity – Strelkov broke through to Donetsk from Slavyansk with 1 tank, 3 Nonas and several BMDs/BMPs. To his aid came 4 tanks, 3 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery units and several BTRs/BMPs; somewhat earlier a few Grad MLRS turned up near Donetsk. All this equipment is spread over the wide front that stretches from Snezhnoye, through Donetsk, to Gorlovka, and, from there, to Mozogovoi’s zone of responsibility. Whatever Strelkov could spare for Mozgovoi, he has sent off to him. At this time, his military equipment is tied up in the battles for Marinovka (DPR) and the airport, while also ensuring the defence of Donetsk and Gorlovka. He just does not have sufficient forces for anything more.
In fact, his continuing pessimistic statements arise from an objective assessment of the real balance of forces at the front. Fantasies of the “a bullet is dumb, but a bayonet is true” and “so what if the enemy has a lot of tanks and aircraft, we will break them with our fighting spirit and prayers” kind naturally can have no effect on the difficult operational situation. And that is why Strelkov’s “melancholy” is essentially a way to convey through the public (where he enjoys widespread support) to the government that he needs more weaponry and military equipment. It is understood that requests like this are also passed on through closed channels – in a more objective and less emotional manner. But this is just one aspect of the problem.
The Political Dimensions of Strelkov’s “Melancholy”
The second aspect of Strelkov “melancholic” statements is a political one. The failure of the defeatists’ faction in the conspiracy to surrender Donetsk did not at all lead to their elimination. It is not difficult to glean from the continuing informational campaign against Strelkov that his presence in Donetsk obviously inhibits the plans of the collusion with the oligarchs and the Junta with respect to the future of Novorossiya.
Strelkov wants to continue fighting and to advance on Kiev, but to do this he requires men and arms, which he receives in insufficient quantities. And because this idea enjoy widespread public support, it is not possible to conduct open negotiations about the future of the “larger Transnistria” with the Junta and the oligarchs. In essence, Strelkov is not allowing to die the idea of the “larger Novorossiya” – an idea which Surkov and co. already wrote off, for the most part, in the spring.
In other words, Strelkov is a political hindrance in the way of the attempts to effect a political exchange of Ukraine for DPR and LPR. And that is why he will continue to be blamed for all mortal sins (today, the provocateur Kurginyan, in Dorenko’s best style, gave birth to the idea that Strelkov allegedly wanted to shoot down Putin, and, if we follow his reasoning, ended up hitting the Boeing), so as to clear the scene for a future collusion with the Nazi Junta about the future of DPR and LPR.
At the same time, military aid to DPR will be apportioned so as to keep the resistance from collapsing entirely (the version of complete abandonment of DPR and LPR appears to the Kremlin to be too burdensome), while simultaneously trying to chop off the assistance channels organized by the public – resources of informational support for DPR and LPR are being blocked, accounts are being closed, including through collusion between Russian banks and SBU and its curators. Junta’s provocation with the Boeing has already been picked up by the Russian faction of defeatists, who are, in effect, playing into the hands of the Junta propaganda machine by floating suppositions that Strelkov and the Militia stand behind the downing of the aircraft.
The Attack on DPR – from Without and from Within
In other words, the attack on DPR is, essentially, two-fold – on the one hand, there is the United States, its satellites and the Junta, and, on the other hand, the Russian comprador-defeatists and their mass media servants, such as Kurginyan. The floating of the idea about Putin, whom Strelkov allegedly attempted to kill, is necessary to create the conditions for someone in the highest echelones to give the go-ahead for the cessation of support to Strelkov. In other words, the necessary picture is being painted for the highest leadership of the Russian Federation, equally as much as for the public.
The gist of the operation is the following: (1) discredit Strelkov in the mass media (start taking note of those who participate in this campaign – by considering this wave you will be able easily to determine which of the talking heads are tied to Surkov and those who are preparing the groundwork for collusion with the Nazi Junta – they are the ones who constitute the mass media infrastructure of the real fifth column, and not the liberal buffoons who are usually represented as such); and (2) prepare the groundwork for his replacement.
If to implement this plan it would require the surrender of Mozgovoi or a part of the territory around Donetsk, this possibility cannot be excluded because it was exactly in this manner that, very recently, they tried to prepare the groundwork for the “heroic death of Strelkov in Slavyangrad.” The “heroic death of Mozgovoi in Lisichansk” might become a very convenient opportunity to continue attacks on Strelkov, who, they would argue, was unable to support him – with all of his 4 tanks.
Their ideal option is to subordinate the military command of DPR to Surkov and Co., so as to preclude any independence, and then to start negotiations with the Junta. While Strelkov, and such field commander as Mozgovoi, are alive, these plans have plainly stalled, and the defeatists are forced to spend time and political capital on Strelkov’s elimination. For Strelkov, the attack is obvious, and that is why, same as he did before, he continues to communicate to the society and the government, through public means, the simple idea that it will be impossible to backstab him that easily (i.e. that he will not go gentle into that good night [Note: original – he will not go silently to be sacrificed]) and that to win this war real aid is required, therebu appealing to the “war faction”, which provides real (rather than token PR) deliveries of aid and which is interested in spreading the insurrection beyond the boundaries of Donbass.
The Fork in the Road Demands Decisive Action
Understandably, he is not a lone wolf and that there are structures in Moscow that support him – otherwise, he would long ago have been buried somewhere near Slavyansk. And the generalized essence of all this fuss in Moscow consists in the fact that the options proposed by Strelkov are simple and clear, and Strelkov formulates them pessimistically – either the war is conducted more actively on the territory of Ukraine, or a capitulation and the transfer of the hostilities onto the territory of the Russian Federation will follow. And over the backdrop of the “all is lost, all has been given up”-style hysterics, this evaluation indicates a realistic fork in the road, which has been obvious since May.
Strelkov does not say “all is lost” – he says that the trend is unfavourable. And the development of the situation continues to confirm his conclusions. The defeatists’ faction, which increased its influence following the decision in April not to intervene militarily, is still trying to occupy two diverging chairs of war and capitulation, in the hopes of achieving an agreement with the Nazi Junta (which Strelkov is preventing) and the Ukrainian oligarchs. They hope, in the end, to secure an outcome that can be represented over the backdrop of the declarations made in February-March 2014 as something other than a complete surrender.
In this scenario, Strelkov, whatever his own views may be, has long ago become a symbol for those who wish to continue the fight either for the entirety of Ukraine or at least for a part of it. Strelkov’s opponents, on the other hand, have long ago written off Ukraine and are now attempting to find a way to escape this situation, so as not to cause unrest in Russia proper, even if, over the long term, the surrender of Ukraine will have the most catastrophic consequences for Russia itself.
And while this confrontation continues, Strelkov will continue to feel “melancholic” and “sad” until the moment when the choice between the two obviously unpleasant decisions is made. Or until the moment of his death, when both unpleasant decisions will be realized at once.
source: http://cassad.net/category/politic/232-o-chem-grustit-strelkov.html
The Jamestown Foundation has published an article on Vladimir Antjufeev today.
The Kremlin ‘Specialist for Creating New Independent States’ Moves to Eastern Ukraine
It is interesting to note that the self-proclaimed government of the “Donetsk People’s Republic” just appointed as its new deputy prime minister Vladimir Antjufeev, the former head of the KGB of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (Transnistria). On July 10, he was presented to journalists at a joint press conference, attended by Girkin/Strelkov and Aleksandr Boroday, the self-proclaimed “prime minister” of the Donetsk separatist “government.” According to Antjufeev, he will be responsible for security issues as well as justice and home affairs.
It seems there is another english translation of the same source which has appeared 2 days ago:
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/32315.html
It is fully understandable to feel despair facing the odds and ruthlessnes that Novorossia faces in the P-Ukes/fascists/nazis.
However, it should be stressed that the fight is not simply for overwhelming military victory. It must be viewed as a prolonged saturation campaign to bleed Kiev of resources and diplomatic goodwill. At some point Kiev will implode due to social unrest and opposition to this horrible military campaign. Once collapse happens, THEN we can speak of overwhelming military victory, because by then it is highly likely that the Ukrainian army will turn on the puppets in Kiev.
Stay strong.
Norwegian Bob
This article sounds rather believable. What seems hard to fathom is how the Kremlin expects to handle the Crimea and a radicalized Ukraine on its borders. Surely Kiev will start destabilizing Crimea and the West will threaten sanctions, so it gets back to the decision of where and when to fight, not if you will fight. There is no way the West is going to forgive Putin/Russia for Syria, and needs to make it be so there is a huge price for the insolence of taking Crimea.
Oh, Saker.
And how exactly does Putin fit into all of this? Does he simply sit uneasily atop all the warring factions, unable to work with the Duma to chart what he considers the best course? I.e., is he as effectively neutered as most Western leaders, just by different constraints? You said maybe a week ago that the Russian equivalent is different in many ways than our Deep State; I think I need a refresher course, or maybe an intro one actually: How Things Really Work Over There. Certainly what’s going on in the Donbass is a tangled skein (or five), but what you’re saying is there’s not enough centralized authority in Russia to respond in a coherent and optimally effective fashion to what is clearly an existential threat? o boy
davidius
Isn’t time to smoke out the rats in Kremlin. So the rebels can put up a real resistance in Novorussia, and get the fascist a run.
This is a link to Asia Times on line, about another downed plane. Iran Air Flight 655 in 1988
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-01-220714.html
Dear Saker,
Could it be a question of the timing of RF full support rather than RF failing to support? Putin and Co may be holding off real support until winter when the Kiev Junta should be near political death from its ongoing failure to feed, warm and otherwise support its citizens in the west Ukraine.
Then hypothetically the military would/could back yet another Maidan removing the junta and welcoming the fighters from east Ukraine.
IMO the win may be long in coming but I believe it will come as there is no way that Russia will allow a Nazi govt with NATO bases on its borders.
The only value in these two links is that they represent the type of biased distorted commentary going on in the msm in Oz.
If it is representative of elsewhere in the Western domains then there is indeed a big challenge to get a balanced view based on facts. I’m not recommending wasting any time on them unless you wish to hear examples of the trash being served up.
Masha Gessen (“The Man Without A Face: the Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin.”) is clearly not only ill informed but is actively pushing anti-Russian/Putin propaganda.
http://www.abc.net.au/…/latenightlive/masha-gessen/5612432
Pavel Felgenhauer (Journalist and allegedly independent military analyst, Moscow) is also clearly not seeking truth and facts.
http://www.abc.net.au/…/mh17-and-the-strategic…/5615768
I’m not sure where they dragged these characters from but if this is being said from Moscow then Putin has some real challenges at home base.
I look forward to a few weeks down the track where we’ll likely see some red faces or, it’ll all be ‘too hard’, and end up a forgotten footnote that someone made a ‘mistake’ (i.e. Kiev did it).
Strelkov’s opponents, on the other hand, have long ago written off Ukraine and are now attempting to find a way to escape this situation, so as not to cause unrest in Russia proper, even if, over the long term, the surrender of Ukraine will have the most catastrophic consequences for Russia itself.
Well, then, what to do about Crimea? There’s every indication that the Ukies were not bluffing when they said they were going to (try to) take it back. Are these Russian defeatists going to be willing to let that go as well? And if so, do they not think *that* is going to cause “unrest in Russia”? (Not to mention, if Putin lets that happen he’s over with. Perhaps that’s what the defeatists want, actually.)
Strelkov – the man is a force of nature. God be with him.
Saker, at your opinion, what is the poistion of Putin about all of that? with te defaitists(change his mind because of the crash) or ready to continue and support Novorossia? Thanks to share your opinion…
Wonder if Putin’s national security meeting today is to plan the way forward. Seems like the conflict enablers are trying their best to split and weaken Russia. What will it be – appeasement or stand firm?
Debate in Kiev over the new conscription bill:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=295_1406028606
Flight recorders going to the UK!!?? Not good.
The biggest fear I have regarding Putin’s policy, is that he by trying to fine the delicate balance between gains on the ground and retributional sanctions, he will be strung along while the Self Defence Forces are crushed and all Novorussiya reoccupied, and then he will be hit by the full sanctions retrospectively anyway and will have lost everything and gained nothing. In fact even if Russia went in and disarmed every militia man in person and personally handed the Donbass and Crimea back to the Ukraine, they would apply full sanctions anyway because it was done too slowly.
If the MH17 teaches us anything, it is that the enemies of the Eurasian powers, will stop at nothing to try to stop their rise and cannot be trusted.
My advice, use the Defence Military report yesterday as clear evidence of the Ukrainian authorities committing the atrocity and that the deliberate attempt to frame the Russian Federation is nothing more than an act of war and act accordingly.
I really fail see what Putin now has left to lose.
Nevertheless, the curators of Russian policies in Donbass (and this was, first and foremost, Surkov, who was given partial reigns of control over Russian policies in Donbass, while, at the same time, Volodin was pushed to the side)
I take it that Surkov has an official position within the Russian government. Is this so? What is Surkov’s full name?
Any help would be appreciated.
I am hoping it is not Vladislav Surkov, the ex deputy Prime Minister.
Nevertheless, the curators of Russian policies in Donbass (and this was, first and foremost, Surkov, who was given partial reigns of control over Russian policies in Donbass, while, at the same time, Volodin was pushed to the side)
I take it that the Surkov referred to has an official position within the Russian government. Is this so?
What is Surkov’s full name?
Any help would be appreciated.
I am hoping to goodness that it is not Vladislav Surkov, the ex Russian Deputy Prime Minister
So does the anti-Nazi resistance have any chance to survive and defend the people of Novorossiya?
It is clear that the NATO gangsters, together with their wall street godfathers, are not going to let go of their “investments” to undermine Russia. The west controls 99% of the mass media and has super deep pockets…I feel despondent and exhausted and I’m not even there, in the midst of exploding shells, horrors and tragedies.
The stench of British MI6/GCHQ psychological operations are all over this report. (I don’t mean they wrote it- I mean their operations directly influence the way the rebels choose to write/think about themselves).
Kiev is emotionally, very weakly motivated, and the rebels are, emotionally very strongly motivated. In military terms, this should speak incredibly well for the rebels. However, the British are experts in the use of psychology to break the will of an ‘enemy’.
Unlike the Americans, for whom brute force is everything, and when brute force is missing they expect defeat, the British know that the manipulation of Men’s minds can easily provide victory in circumstances that seem hopeless.
Who here does not think that the false flag has seriously sapped the will of the rebels and their supporters, as it was designed to do? Everywhere one sees morons waste their mental efforts as they excitedly discuss the minutiae of the false flag.
Meanwhile Britain uses the fallout of the operation to funnel a large boost of mercenaries and military advisers into the battlefield, and instructs Kiev to go fully ‘Gaza’ on the Humans of Novorussia.
The fantasy that East Ukraine could protect itself, without overt assistance from Russia, is exposed as naive and disastrous. The entire military intellect of the West is overtly available to the neo-Nazis of Kiev, and the false flag and the vile zionist mainstream media/ George Soros pseudo-independent media propaganda campaigns are just a tiny part of this.
As Kiev slaughters more Humans, imprisons more Humans, Tortures more Humans and rapes more Humans, Kiev’s taste for this neo-colonial method of waging war only grows. Kiev is now fighting a ‘slave revolt’, and you don’t show slaves- not slave women or slave children- any form of mercy until you gain total dominance again.
On the other hand, the rebels pride themselves on following the ‘rules’ of War- rules the West has never every obeyed even in the slightest. There can be no question of the rebels breaking the will of Kiev, since the rebels clearly choose not to take the battle there.
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So the rebels fight largely as an amateur, gentlemen’s army. As their numbers grow, Kiev, under British advice, increases its horrific punitive actions against the general population of the region. Britain didn’t rule the Earth’s most impressive Empire unskilled in the ways of converting whole nations into passive slaves.
And again, all this foul death and destruction could have been avoided if the supporters of Novorussia had all loudly demanded that Putin sent peacekeepers into East Ukraine right at the beginning. But oh, no. That solution was ‘childish’ that solution was ‘simplistic’. That solution didn’t involve self-important people with blogs full of ‘analysis’.
As I said at the top, the Brits are masters at playing with people’s minds. When it is time for action, the British ensure their enemies bog themselves down with endless pseudo-intellectual conversations- and think themselves so ‘clever’ by doing so. Now just as taking about the false flag is a waste of time and resources, so is any discussion of rebel activities in Novorussia.
People need to focus on putting maximum pressure on Putin and the rulers of Russia instead. Blogs like these should maximise coverage of the atrocities in Novorussia (which British Military Intelligence operatives try to persuade you is a ‘defeatist’ tactic). Blogs like this should always have links and images on the front page to photos and videos of the unthinkable Human suffering in Novorussia. Simple infographics keeping constant tally of the number of destroyed homes, schools, factories etc- the number of dead and wounded- the number of raped and tortured- and the number of refugees forced out of their homes.
It does not matter if these numbers are decent approximations- it is the operatives of MI6/GCHQ that want you to say “we are honest gentlemen, so we can’t report anything without absolute confirmation of every last detail”.
The background expose of treachery by fifth columnist traitors and oligarchs working to sell out the militia and the RF buffer, at the least, is mind-blowing.
Why did not a few bullets end this conspiracy?
These men in this cabal are the enemy of the people of Russia.
What is going on? No wonder the wipe out in the Southern boiler halted so quickly.
We need to know what allows this kind of intrigue to operate. I don’t understand how FSB, military and Putin’s government allow this.
Who actually is Colonel Cassad who wrote this?
From RIA Novosti today :
“Russia’s sovereignty is secured largely because the country refrains from entering into any alliances, according to Putin.
“Thank God, Russia does not belong to any alliances and, to a great extent, it guarantees our sovereignty. By entering an alliance, any country immediately gives up a part of its sovereignty, and it is not always reflective of the country’s national interests,” Putin said.
Russia for its part “strictly abides by international law and obligations given to its partners and expects that other countries, associations, military and political alliances will act the same way toward Russia,” Putin underlined”.
I don’t think this bodes well for Novorussia unfortunately. I sometimes really wish I could grab Messres Lavrov, Putin et al and give them a good shake and yell wake up ! But what do I know. Im just a member of the public who like countless others are starting to do has woken up to the unspeakable evil of western so called “leaders”. And I am also pretty damned sure that there are also several cold war warriors in the state Duma who have also seen the writing on the wall of what the future holds. What Russia choses to do about it only time will tell. Events are gaining a momentum of their own and everything will be played out in time.
Listening to BBC – economic war going full tilt on all fronts with talk about the prospects of bring Russia to heel through sanctions and what the chances of getting support from Germany and France are and whether the UK would be willing to go after Russian investments run through London. Means are being readied to sanction non-compliant banks.
On the crash – attempts at every opportunity to disparage the forensic process (just in case there should be some disturbing evidence coming to light no doubt.
Very good analysis. Meanwhile, civilians continue to die albeit not on the scale of Grozny or Syria. Time favours the Ukrainian Parliament. Every day that passes means negotiation becomes less of an option. Presumably, Strelkov and his personal guard of 700 or so will make a last stand somewhere whatever happens. I can’t see anyone wanting him alive. He does seem to tell it like it is. Bailing out to Transnistria doesn’t seem his way. Actually, perhaps the end will be one of his men shooting him. He’s already not very useful.
Soarintothesky on another account.
Listening to BBC – economic war going full tilt on all fronts with talk about the prospects of bring Russia to heel through sanctions and what the chances of getting support from Germany and France are and whether the UK would be willing to go after Russian investments run through London. Means are being readied to sanction non-compliant banks.
On the crash – attempts at every opportunity to disparage the forensic process (just in case there should be some disturbing evidence coming to light no doubt.
Those who believe that the sacrifice of E Ukraine to the U.S./NATO backed Ukrainian regime will end military operations do not recognise that this alliance will next target Crimea (and Transnistria).
If one or more parties are committed to war, regardless of efforts to prevent this outcome, war will occur. Russian analysts are no doubt aware of this reality. Hostile operations (information warfare, economic warfare, proxy war operations, etc.) are already active and expanding (while military forces/assets are being mobilised under claims of ‘defence’. The situation will become increasingly untenable until eventually, a response will be necessary. I respectfully advise Russian strategists that when Russia is forced to respond, that it respond decisively.
The Anglo-Zionist project of global hegemony through militarism (political engineering through successive wars/proxy wars and involving the expansion of the U.S./NATO military bloc) will not cease. Destabilisation/partition/regime change operations against and within Russia are also active as is the pursuit of nuclear primacy through the gradual deployment of missile architecture. So long as the Anglo-Zionists and their collaborators remain able to, they will continue to agitate, destabilise, infiltrate and attempt to subjugate in their insatiable pursuit of power and profit. For peace and stability to be established and maintained, their abominations and ability to agitate must be ended.
Dear Saker
This is off topic
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This short insert is from RT
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After Venezuela the Chinese leader arrived in Cuba on Tuesday where he is meeting President Raul Castro on the last stop of his four-country visit to Latin America.
Xi Jinping hopes to expand political and economic ties in the other communist nation. The island has had close political ties with China for decades, and was granted generous trade credits in the past.
http://rt.com/business/174588-china-oil-deal-venezuela/
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My question is
which are ” the other communist nations”?
First of all Cuba does not call herself a communist country.
Spain never called herself a fascist country and UK does not call herself a capitalist country, even China does not call herself a communist country.
How can you win the information war against Anglo-Zionist when RT is infiltrated with NATO-ists?
No wonder Strelkov is melancholy. The entire MSM is focusing on him and talking about him as the latest evil straw-man to confuse the masses. It’s a lot of chit for any decent human to bear.
Was thinking the other day about those pesky Oligarchs. If I were a Rothschild or a Rockefeller and had to use a Kolomoiskiy as part of my world-wide team — a feudal princeling to rape the masses — I’d be scrapping the bottom of the barrel. It’s obvious why this CFR-NWO system is so fuked. Fed by Satanism and child abuse. When you recruit people because they have NO moral compass — you get the DNA dregs. The resistance won’t get rid of all the bad guys. But if they eliminate some Oligarchs it puts them all on notice and gives whoever remains a better chance for life in that region.
ZUSA (aka CIA, MIC, Mozy, etc) created the chaos taking place throughout the middle east and Ukraine. DOS is like a bad college sorority full of sluts and legacies tweeting BS about the popular girls. And EU will freeze this winter unless they tread gently.
Americans like to root for the good guys. Unfortunately, America hasn’t been “the good guy” for a long time. Most folks don’t know that — yet. Fasten your seatbelts.
Here’s another question, O/T though and not just for Saker (Lord knows, he has enough to do!): according to this article, the plane that crashed did not have the same identifying number on it that is being claimed; also included here is a purported screen-shot showing the original flight had been cancelled. Is there any way to establish the validity of this site, or these claims?
http://www.iknews.de/2014/07/21/flug-mh17-faktencheck-welches-flugzeug-ist-wirklich-abgestuerzt/
I would not doubt the commitment of the Russian people and the Kremlin to Novorossia, Kiev, Odessa . . . this is the defining conflict for Russia’s history and future.
The borderlands must move to the west.
– from Nazi-occupied Amerika
Col Cassad blog is awesome!
The articles…maps etc show the gravity of the conflict
Yet its obvious upon seeing the mickey mouse reach of
kiev into the east with welfare bast looking light armor
units with garbage everywhere in the bush
These of course get zapped and kiev runs away
which shows that few….few determined fighters in the
east are nearly checkmate this shitty kiev army
candid….the east are not showing to fight…no they are not!
Cuz if they were…they would overrun the shitty kiev army and
take all their shit!
Syria does this….falls on the trash and takes their nato supplied
weapons and builds a peoples resistance.
10,000 ukie army?….
Even the collabo french are jeering.
East….get off your ass and go ransack the confused kiev
army in the field.
Attack every night….no sleep for kiev
Amnesty International and the War in Ukraine
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/21/amnesty-international-and-the-war-in-ukraine/
some exerts:
The facts show that EuroMaidan authorities started the terror campaign promptly after toppling the former government, that is to say long before the start of the war. The spiral of violence raging now in Eastern Ukraine is the sequel of the geopolitical drama called EuroMaidan.
In addition, to see the whole scale of violence in Ukraine one should gather information about abductions, tortures and other ill-treatment throughout the country and not only in Eastern Ukraine. And the time period should be enlarged: it`s necessary to take into consideration all of the violence perpetrated since the victory of EuroMaidan and not only since the beginning of the hostilities.
When the new post-EuroMaidan government was formed it unleashed unprecedented repressive measures, which became more and more stringent and violent.
After EuroMidan, Ukraine is a country full of political prisoners.
Perhaps this conflict should not be seen in simplistic terms of East vs. West. The participants of the Maidan revolution wanted to take down a system of structural corruption associated with the oligarchical plundering of the country. It was not so much a statement against Russian influence as against the oligarchic regime. Yanukovich’s refusal to sign the EU accord was merely the flashpoint. Even though it was the correct choice, given that the EU was offering nothing but austerity and pain, it robbed the people of any hope for change.
(As we know, the revolution was hijacked by a competing group of oligarchs (Kolomoisky, Tymoshenko etc)
in conjunction with the neo-Nazis they financed. This was not simply taking advantage of an opportunistic situation, but rather had been planned well in advance, waiting for the right moment. The competing oligarchs had to do something to protect their fortunes which were being cannibalised by the Yanukovich clan.)
We now have the people in western Ukraine living under a different, and far more brutal oligarchic regime, clinging to the fading illusion that the EU agreement will somehow make their lives better. They have not yet come to grips with the reality of their situation, and the few that did are being ruthlessly suppressed. There was no great animosity towards eastern Ukraine prior to the revolution just as there was no reciprocal animosity from the east. People, for the part, just want to get on with their lives. What changed the dynamic was the annexation of Crimea (a rational and prudent move by Putin). It brought back memories of the Soviet Union and galvanized a spirit of Ukrainian nationalism. The rebellion in the east only reinforces this perception as it is viewed in terms of us vs. them.
This has shifted the focus from the real problem, the fascist oligarchic regime now running the country. They are cynically exploiting the situation by pushing through austerity measures and consolidating their power. Lets not overlook the fact that the media infrastructure in Ukraine is 100% owned and controlled by the oligarchs; any dissenting voices crushed by the neo-Nazis. Therefore the narrative of the situation is defined by their parameters – an ideal condition for propaganda control. And when people turn to western media via the internet, what do they get – more propaganda demonizing Putin.
The people in the west are being conditioned (brainwashed) to perceive the conflict in terms defined by the regime and for the most part may not even be aware of the extent of the atrocities taking place in the east. To
demonize them as hating eastern Ukrainians is too simplistic. Other than a few rabid nationalists they have no special hate. They don’t want a war where their sons are forced to fight other Ukrainians. They, as with most people, just want to get on with their lives. This is a different kind of atrocity being perpetrated on all Ukrainians by the degenerate oligarchal regime, fully supported by the Americans.
This is one brave lady: Veröffentlicht am 21.07.2014
Die Abgeordnete des ukrainischen Parlaments von der Partei “Partei der Regionen” Elena Bondarenko über die aktuelle politische Situation in der Ukraine.
Deutsche Übersetzung Vladimir TheRussian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k25m68oy0vY#t=420
The Ukrainian Parliament of the Party “Party of Regions” Elena Bondarenko about the current political situation in Ukraine deputies.
German translation Vladimir theRussian:
p2. Australia, a partner of the U.S./NATO Israel alliance, is also currently escalating its hostile rhetoric (and associated initiatives) against Russia. Australian strategists believe that its geographic situation translates to immunity from retaliation. In the event of possible (arguably probable) conflict between military blocs, I respectfully ask Russia to prove them wrong.
The political wavering, indecision and lack of vision is precisely why you cannot wait for a leader to emerge… the ones that do are unknowns! Their loyalty, vision, integrity and determination is untested and unknown. Strelkov and other true non-political visionaries end up paying the price. Once these men have been betrayed, and destroyed, the enslavement of the population is almost inevitable.
Sadly, the political leadership of things in Novorussia is the major reason Russia cannot intervene in any significant way.
My heart grieves for men like Strelkov.
Oh fergawdsakes, those flight recorders handed over by Borodai to Malaysian authorities will be analyzed in the UK.
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140722/191108456/Flight-Recorders-of-Crashed-Malaysian-Boeing-to-Be-Analyzed-in.html
I am fighting very hard right now against my gut sense that the only thing left as far as the Donbass is concerned is the mop-up. After that? Who knows; there’s still plenty of time for Russia to gather all sorts of strength in all sorts of arenas while we simultaneously lose ours.
Could Strelkov be Putin’s biggest threat? let’s see how much effort will be put to discredit him, then we know the Kremlin is behind it.
My gripe with Putin is that he did not invade after the Odessa massacre.
This was a very bad error of judgement on his part.
The narrative the Kiev Junta and the US are pushing is simple,
destroy Russia’s reputation,
a co-ordinated character assassination against Putin,
and the discrediting and mudslinging of the anti-Nazi Kiev Junta freedom fighters in East Ukraine.
It is a vilification campaign aimed at justifying the ethnic Russian genocide taking place.
Putin must help the Donbass region to break free from neo-Nazism.
So I wish his military brass will eventually force him to, as I believe they should.
The more he waits, the more the danger he ends up like Saddam with Kuwait, though in this case with his own people disowning him.
There is also the clear danger to see him replaced by a Russian Nationalist sympathetic to Igor Strelkov who will be fervently in favour of helping ethnic Russians wherever they are in Eastern Europe, and by force.
The impression that Putin is currently giving is that he does not seem to mind having civilians, his own flesh and blood ethnicity, being butchered and massacred on his own doorstep.
This makes him look weak and craven.
In the confrontation precipitated by the downing of the Malaysian plane, the propaganda war has been won by Strelkov and his comrades.
This war is by no means an ineffective part of the long war in which he and his men are engaged, and they have conducted themselves in exemplary fashion in this matter.
I don’t believe this war will be entirely won by weaponry. It is going to be won by stages and may include defeats on the battlefield that we would all wish not to happen. But a turning point has been reached in the larger war, and I hope that will assuage Strelkov’s melancholy to no small degree.
It is not a contradiction to say that both he and Putin are heroes in this war. I say it. Both are making strong arguments against the current regime, and that regime is going to fail. I pray for both safety and strength.
p3. ‘Australia the cat’s paw for US threats against Russia’
“Calculated decisions have been made in Washington to utilise the MH17 disaster to demonise Russian President Vladimir Putin and pressure the European powers, in particular, to join the US in dramatically heightening the economic and military pressure on Moscow. Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s government in Australia has proven a convenient and reliable cat’s paw for the campaign….
Australian imperialism is thoroughly integrated into the US pivot in the Asian region to undermine China—which is paralleled in Europe by the campaign to destabilise Russia. This includes hosting an array of key US communications facilities and military bases.
The previous Labor government played significant roles in preparing the basis for the US air war on Libya in 2011 and attempting to create conditions for a similar onslaught on Syria last year…. With the exception of the Ukrainian regime itself, the Australian establishment has been arguably the most aggressive in accusing Russia of responsibility. In parliament last Friday, an atmosphere of unrestrained condemnation prevailed. The Labor Party and the Greens amplified the unsubstantiated allegations made by Abbott, Bishop and other government representatives. Over the weekend, Labor leader Bill Shorten and Greens leader Christine Milne declared they would support banning Putin from taking part in the G20 summit in Australia later in the year.
Throughout the media in Australia, Russia’s guilt, and the need for retribution, is almost universally presented as fact. With reckless abandon, calls are being made for not only economic sanctions but a military confrontation by the US and European powers against Moscow—a nuclear-armed state.” (UN resolution on Flight MH17: Australia the cat’s paw for US threats against Russia, By James Cogan, WSWS, 22 July 2014)
I have a few questions.While I agreed with this article.I wonder is it available to be read in Russia.I think the fall of the resistance in Ukraine will lead to a disaster for Russia herself.The terrorist junta will be emboldened to move on Crimea.Not an open attack at first.But terrorist gangs causing violence (they wouldn’t be stopped by the fighting in the East as they are now).And the junta will be able to solidify their control with the backing of NATO and fed by massive propaganda from their press stooges on how they have “beaten Russia” and “saved Ukraine”.That defeat will also doom Transnistria as well.Very likely Ukraine and Moldova will team up to close the border and Moldova seize Transnistria.With NATO threatening Russia if they try to intervene.With the passenger plane shoot down.That false flag has given the EU the excuse for their people as to why they “need” to punish Russia by imposing more sanctions.The time is quickly coming for Russia to either fight back or kneel.Something I never thought I’d see.The mistake of not crushing the Kiev coup at the beginning is coming back to haunt us.But right today,if Russia is willing to accept that no matter what they do the Cold War has returned and fight back,all is not lost.There are many Ukrainians unhappy with the junta.And they would love to see it fall.If Russia would fully support the resistance with arms and volunteers they can topple that evil regime.But if they don’t soon,all will be lost there.And the battlefield will turn to Crimea and Russia herself.I’m not sure the Russian people understand how serious this is for the survival of Russia itself.
Thanks to all the commenters and especially the Saker for all his efforts to provide this forum and his commentary.
Debate within Russia. ITAR-TASS has two articles up on Alexei Kudrin’s position:
Ukraine’s conflict escalation may cost Russians 1/5 of incomes — ex-finance minister
Russia
A new round of confrontation might boost military spending on both sides given that Russia’s military budget is ten times smaller than that of NATO member states, Alexei Kudrin said
MOSCOW, July 22. /ITAR-TASS/. Further escalation of the conflict in eastern Ukraine and western economic sanctions may cost Russians as much as one-fifth of their income, Russia’s former finance minister, Alexei Kudrin, said Tuesday.
On July 17, the White House announced new sectoral sanctions against Russia, targeting some of the country’s largest energy corporations and banks as punishment for Moscow’s alleged reluctance to curb violence in Ukraine.
“I support the stance that Russia should avoid military intervention in eastern Ukraine,” Kudrin told ITAR-TASS. “This could cause uncontrolled risks in economic, military and political spheres.”
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/741779
Russian business against country’s isolation – ex-finance minister
Russia
“I do not share the anti-western rhetoric,”adding that Russia’s stand-off with the west might affect the country’s economic and political modernisation, former finance minister Alexei Kudrin says.
MOSCOW, July 22. /ITAR-TASS/.
Some forces in Russia are interested in the country’s isolation but the Russian business wants to invest in global markets, former finance minister Alexei Kudrin said on Tuesday.
Kudrin told ITAR-TASS that he was “surprised with the extent of anti-western rhetoric that has emerged” following the Ukrainian crisis.
“Things are different in business,” he said. “Businessmen want to work, to invest, build factories and develop trade. And businessmen are very concerned about what they hear on radio and TV.”
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/741814
Here is some good news.
http://en.voicesevas.ru (English version)
Voice of Sevastopol-English
Won’t need Yandex to read the Cassad/Sevastopol website any more.
Bookmark it.
what’s up with consortium news? looks like ddos
It seems to me that E Ukraine is much different from Crimea and that Putin’s advice not to hold referendums at the time was quite valid.The economic and politacal holdings are such that pressure to compromise with Kiev is what the bosses want,as for the locals I have no idea although indescrimate destruction of civilian areas may change opinions.
Russia’s best option is to stand back and ‘watch’ the place self destruct. The beatings will continue until marale improves.
My gripe with Putin is that he did not invade after the Odessa massacre.
This was a very bad error of judgement on his part.
The narrative the Kiev Junta and the US are pushing is simple,
destroy Russia’s reputation,
a co-ordinated character assassination against Putin,
and the discrediting and mudslinging of the anti-Nazi Kiev Junta freedom fighters in East Ukraine.
It is a vilification campaign aimed at justifying the ethnic Russian genocide taking place.
Putin must help the Donbass region to break free from neo-Nazism.
So I wish his military brass will eventually force him to, as I believe they should.
The more he waits, the more the danger he ends up like Saddam with Kuwait, though in this case with his own people disowning him.
There is also the clear danger to see him replaced by a Russian Nationalist sympathetic to Igor Strelkov who will be fervently in favour of helping ethnic Russians wherever they are in Eastern Europe, and by force.
The impression that Putin is currently giving is that he does not seem to mind having civilians, his own flesh and blood ethnicity, being butchered and massacred on his own doorstep.
This makes him look weak and craven.
Update on English Voice of Sevastopol.
The English version does not have a complete item by item version as yet.
So, alas, you still need Yandex to get the battle reports, etc.
It would be nice to find a school of students who are bilingual and who could make translation into English their project. So many videos could use subtitles, and many important articles need work.
IF Russia and Russians are interested in promoting their world view and demonstrating the moral high ground, this “soft approach” is where it has to start.
Particularly, the words from the mouth of the ordinary people caught in the grinder is so important to get to the global village on the Internet.
“and the people of Akhmetov and Kolomoiskiy (through Kurginyan’s people)”
Important article on Kurginyan’s background. He has long history of supporting zionist 5th element interests in Russia.
Кургинян: Израильский след (Kurginyan: the Israel trail)
http://www.novorosinform.org/articles/id/129 (trans) http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2671-kurginyan-izrailskiy-sled.html
The Kolomoisky-Kurginyan-Israel connections. The article, besides showing Kurginyan’s duplicty, gives a good idea of how zionist connections play a very important role behind the scenes in ZPC/NWO geopolitics. The Israelis may be playing coy officially, but their people are in the thick of the Ukraine destabilisation, running it in the Ukraine and supporting it in the Ukraine, the USA and EU, as well as the main people behind the Russian destabilisation 5th element.
вот так
Not so good news. Hope the black boxes will not be tampered with by the British vassals.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/mh17-black-boxes-will-go-to-uk-for-analysis-says-deputy-transport-minister
It was almost amusing to see Kerry warning the Russians to stop secretly supplying the Russian rebels in NovoRussia. He really sounded like he felt it wasn’t fair that another party was doing what the US was doing.
It was almost amusing to see Kerry warning the Russians to stop secretly supplying the Russian rebels in NovoRussia.
He really sounded like he felt it wasn’t fair that another party was doing what the US was doing.
It was almost amusing to see Kerry warning the Russians to stop secretly supplying the Russian rebels in NovoRussia.
He really sounded like he felt it wasn’t fair that another party was doing what the US was doing.
From the Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2700531/Biden-claims-got-Vladimir-Putins-face-visit-Russia.html
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Vice President [of the USA] Joe Biden claimed that he came face to face with Vladimir Putin during a visit to Moscow in 2011 and told him: ‘Mr. Prime Minister, I’m looking into your eyes, and I don’t think you have a soul’.
Biden told the New Yorker [weekly magazine] he was touring then-Prime Minister Putin’s office when he positioned himself several inches from the Russian politican’s face and made the biting comment.
‘And he looked back at me, and he smiled, and he said, “We understand one another”‘
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I laughed when I read this. I read it back to my wife, who does not follow events and knows neither who Biden is nor that he isn’t the smartest card in the pack, and she laughed and said “What a clever guy Putin!”.
It is not clear to me what is so bad about that “Surkov-Akhmetov” plan. It is discarded in one sentence without paying any attention to details.
As I see it such plans should receive considerable attention as they may become realistic again later on.
This upbeat vid (Italian subtitles) says Russia should not take the bait; it reminds me of Alexander Nevsky’s dilemma and his decision to accommodate many Tartar demands while looking to the (very) long term (Ivan III) i.e. 200 years or so. The threat of extermination was very very real. How long before today’s Tartars implode? The originals lasted out 200 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ59APT0Zks
on Malaysian airliner, this vid apparently walks you thru the unmasking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K52skvuMwZI
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/21/joe_biden_to_vladimir_putin_i_dont_think_you_have_a_soul/
@ anonymous 14:42
East….get off your ass and go ransack the confused kiev
army in the field.
Attack every night….no sleep for kiev
Unfortunately, The defense forces have a HUGE problem with manpower, and have had to rely on “imports” such as chechens and serbs. It seems many of the young men in SE Ukraine have been “westernized” – they’d rather retreat to Russia with the women and children than fight for their land. Stretched so thin, it’s all the defense forces can do to hold on to a few cities.
So. If the people of an area refuse to defend it, is it so hard to see why Putin has not charged in?
The next step for Europe: nuclear fallout from Ukraine, courtesy of the USA. The wind blows west. Europe should be asking Russia for help in stabilizing Ukraine. But they will pay the price for their treachery and cowardice.
Saker have a look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdpJqi3XcuI
Putin speaks to sanctions against Russia:
“Russia is virtually being presented with ultimatums, either let us destroy a population that is close to Russia or we will introduce some sanctions against you,” Putin said. “It’s a strange logic and, of course, absolutely unacceptable.”
A tacit admission of helping forces in Novorossia? I find this statement surprising and heartening.
AGS,
Left you a message on the other post.
In a previous post I asked what is so bad about that “Surkov-Akhmetov” plan.
Let me explain a bit more: I understand that it was not nice to sell out Strelkov in Slavyansk. But if Strelkov’s skin becomes the only reason for continuing the fight you have a problem.
@ Anonymous 14:15
“People need to focus on putting maximum pressure on Putin and the rulers of Russia instead. Blogs like these should maximise coverage of the atrocities in Novorussia (which British Military Intelligence operatives try to persuade you is a ‘defeatist’ tactic). Blogs like this should always have links and images on the front page to photos and videos of the unthinkable Human suffering in Novorussia. Simple infographics keeping constant tally of the number of destroyed homes, schools, factories etc- the number of dead and wounded- the number of raped and tortured- and the number of refugees forced out of their homes.”
Yes. I often thought that the terrible images coming out of there every day need more exposure, and maybe should be collected in one place. Instead, people are afraid to be considered rude in bringing them, or voyeuristic in looking at them. They are hard to watch, but that’s what you need to do become sufficiently indignant and, yes, keep pressuring Putin to put an end to this slaughter.
It does not look good for him at all. He will be demonized whether he does something or not. But if he keeps on doing nothing, he looks weaker and weaker.
I don’t know. Maybe Russia doesn’t really have the military means to face NATO even at its own border. But this seems unlikely. So the only conclusion is that they are too afraid to confront the situation. Horrible for its image though.
The Iron Chancellor said that “History is not made without blood being shed.” There is no escaping the virtual certainty that some, in these circumstances, will be.
Everything I’ve learned and experienced and observed over the years says that way to limit bleeding is outrun deteriorating events by moving rapidly and decisively. Russia has the military means, but is too sloth and indecisive-it needs to get aggressive and assertive and act fast and right.
putin is too slow to act.he cares too much about his enemis than about his allies and wellwishers.
russia msut run a proxi war with full effort otherwise direct war is unavaoidable within a year or two.
@Wim Roffel
The problem with the Surkov-Akhmetov plan is that Akhmetov refused to go with it.
Anglo-America ascribe to the Doctrine that it is Only Might that makes Right, and that the Victors write the History, and that Everyone comes to believe that Version of History soon enough, and so it Does Not Matter what Really Happened, because it Only Matters what you Believe.
There are People who think that Anglo-America is the Global Hegemony of the World.
A very telling interview of how things are working in Moscow, and the gigantic task that Putin is facing. Things don’t stop at the border of UA/RF.
The decisions are do not belong entirely to Putin, he has said so in many occasions.
Interview with State Duma deputy Yevgeny Fyodorov, July 17, 2014
http://rusnod.ru/nodtv/video4370.html
Why hasn’t the spotliught been placed on Surkov, more should be known about this AdMan.
Fingers crossed, that Col. Strelkov takes Kiev.
@ Nora,
Friends, foes, enemies and enigmas?
Check out Alexey Miller, the head of the Russian oil company Gazprom…
Saker,
Could we get a brief lineup of these swine traitors and who they are and why they have influence, such as money, position in society, and what is their life expectancy?
We hear a name, and they are in Ukraine, in Moscow, and we have no idea who and how they operate?
All this fifth and sixth column stuff does not tell us how they exist. And it is clear they have some protection or Borodai and Strelkov would have capped them, wouldn’t they?
Give us a rundown on what this gang of troublemaking SOBs is all about.
quote of the traitor-who counts business more than country. if country does nto exist then no business or anything.
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“I do not share the anti-western rhetoric,”adding that Russia’s stand-off with the west might affect the country’s economic and political modernisation, former finance minister Alexei Kudrin says.”
such traitors msut be shot dead .
stalin was right to kill the traitors working for anglosaxon scumbags.
military victory alone will ensure that neao Russia and Russia survives.propaganda is all towards military victory and without military victory and facts on teh ground there is no value of propaganda
so russia msut try for military victory rather than wasting time justifying ehr existence to her enemis.
unlike this quote “Once collapse happens, THEN we can speak of overwhelming military victory, because by then it is highly likely that the Ukrainian army will turn on the puppets in Kiev.
Stay strong.”
Flight recorders going to the UK!!??
is russia so stupid to trust the most vile enemy that russia has and always had?
what a stupid loser russia is to not smash but trust the msot vile nation in the world -english liars.
quote anonymous said “When it is time for action, the British ensure their enemies bog themselves down with endless pseudo-intellectual conversations- and think themselves so ‘clever’ by doing so. Now just as taking about the false flag is a waste of time and resources, so is any discussion of rebel activities in Novorussia. “
exactly
russia is sos tupid to fritter her enemrgy rather than concentrating on one thing-nuke england and kill english nation for ever. all other actions are wastage of time.
Daniel Rich,
Do the money guys always win?
How the hell do we get any of this back under control?
Dayum.