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“I am surrounded, they are outside, I don’t want them to take me and parade me, conduct the airstrike, they will make a mockery of me and this uniform. I want to die with dignity and take all these bastards with me. Please my last wish, conduct the airstrike, they will kill me either way. This is the end commander, thank you, tell my family and my country I love them. Tell them I was brave and I fought until I could no longer. Please take care of my family, avenge my death, goodbye commander, tell my family I love them“ Alexander Prokhorenko |
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“This is for our guys” Roman Filipov |
[This analysis was written for the Unz Review]
We are currently living the most dangerous days in human history. You think that this is hyperbole?
Think again.
We are risking a nuclear Armageddon
The first thing to realize is that this is not, repeat, not about Syria or chemical weapons, not in Salsbury, not in Douma. That kind of nonsense is just “mental prolefeed” for the mentally deficient, politically blinded or otherwise zombified ideological drones who, from the Maine, to the Gulf of Tonkin, to NATO’s Gladio bombing of the Bologna train-station, to the best and greatest of them all – 9/11 of course – will just believe anything “their” (as they believe) side tells them. The truth is that the AngloZionists are the prime proliferators of chemical weapons in history (and the prime murderers of Arabs and Muslims too!). So their crocodile tears are just that – crocodile tears, even if their propaganda machine says otherwise.
Does anybody seriously believe that Trump, May, Macron or Netanyahu would be willing to risk an apocalyptic thermonuclear war which could kill several hundred million people in just a few hours because Assad has used chemical weapons on tens, hundreds or even thousands of innocent Syrian civilians (assuming, just for argument’s sake, that this accusation is founded)? Since when do the AngloZionist care about Arabs?! This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!
For those who would say that speaking of “several hundred million people” killed is hyperbole, I would recommend looking up past western plans to “solve the Russian problem” including:
- Plan Totality (1945): earmarked 20 Soviet cities for obliteration in a first strike: Moscow, Gorki, Kuybyshev, Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, Omsk, Saratov, Kazan, Leningrad, Baku, Tashkent, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, Magnitogorsk, Molotov, Tbilisi, Stalinsk, Grozny, Irkutsk, and Yaroslavl.
- Operation Unthinkable (1945) assumed a surprise attack by up to 47 British and American divisions in the area of Dresden, in the middle of Soviet lines. This represented almost a half of roughly 100 divisions (ca. 2.5 million men) available to the British, American and Canadian headquarters at that time. (…) The majority of any offensive operation would have been undertaken by American and British forces, as well as Polish forces and up to 100,000 German Wehrmacht soldiers.
- Operation Dropshot (1949): included mission profiles that would have used 300 nuclear bombs and 29,000 high-explosive bombs on 200 targets in 100 cities and towns to wipe out 85% of the Soviet Union’s industrial potential at a single stroke. Between 75 and 100 of the 300 nuclear weapons were targeted to destroy Soviet combat aircraft on the ground.
Articles like this one, this one, and this one are also good pointers (these are all estimates, of course, nobody knows for sure; all that matters is an approximate orders of magnitude).
By the way, I am not suggesting that at this point in time the AngloZionists would want to deliberately start a thermonuclear war with Russia. What I am suggesting is that there is a very simple and basic asymmetry between the Russian and AngloZionist forces in the Middle-East which could lead to such an outcome regardless of original intentions. Here is how:
How are we risking a nuclear Armageddon?
Step one: the AngloZionists strike Syria hard enough to force the Russians to retaliate.
Step two: now outraged by the Russian response, the AngloZionists retaliate against the Russian forces in Syria.
At this point it is crucial to remember that while the Russians have better equipment and far better soldiers than their “western” opponents (the examples of Alexander Prokhorenko or Roman Filipov will tell you all you need to know about how Russians in Syria fight, especially compared to the kind of personnel deployed by the US and NATO), the CENTCOM+NATO+Israel+KSA have an immense numerical advantage. It does not matter how effective the Russian air defenses or (tiny) air superiority aircraft force is when it can simply be overwhelmed by numbers. All the Empire needs to do is first fire a large number of dumb old Tomahawk cruise missiles, let the Russian use their stores of air defense missiles and then follow-up with their more advanced weapons. The truth is that if the Empire wanted to, it could even establish a no-fly zone over Syria and completely wipe-out the Russian task force. Sure, there would be losses on both sides, the Russians would fight heroically, but they would lose. Unless, of course, they got help from the Motherland, specifically in the form of cruise missile attacks from the Black Sea Fleet, the Caspian Flotilla, the aircraft stationed in southern Russia (Crimea) or even in Iran. Russia also strike with land and sea based missiles. So Russia does have the capability to strike at numerous lucrative (and more or less defenseless) US and “coalition” targets throughout the Middle-East. But what would be the consequences of that?
Step three: Russian strikes on CENTCOM targets would force the Empire to fight back and strike at Russian Navy ships and, even worse, at military installations in Russia proper.
Step four: US/NATO attacks on Russian territory would inevitably trigger a Russian response on the USA itself.
That response would be initially conventional, but as the losses on both sides would mount, the use of nuclear weapons would be almost inevitable.
Yes, in theory, at any time during this escalatory cycle both sides could decide to de-escalate. In theory. But in the real world, I don’t see that happening nor have I ever seen any model which would convincingly explain how such a de-escalation could happen (especially with the exceptionally low-quality type of narcissistic and psychopathic individuals in command in the USA – think Trump or Bolton here – and all their “we are the best and biggest and greatest” pseudo-patriotic nonsense).
I am not predicting that this is what will actually happen, but I am saying that this is the risk the AngloZionist Empire is willing to take in order to achieve.. what exactly? What is worth taking such a risk?
I think that the UK Minister of Defense put it best: the AngloZionists want Russia to “go away and shut up”.
Why we are risking a nuclear Armageddon (go away and shut up!)
“Go away and shut up” has been the dream of all western leaders since at least a millennium (interspersed and strengthened by regular (and failed) attempts at conquering and/or converting the Russians). Just think how frustrating it has been for a civilization which has established colonies worldwide, including in the farthest regions of our planet, to have this unconquerable nation right next door which was not only refusing to submit, but which would regularly defeat them on the battlefield even when they all joined forces lead by their “best and brightest” leaders (Napoleon, Hitler and… Trump?). Just imagine how a civilization centered on, and run by, bankers would go crazy realizing that immense riches were literally “right next door” but that those who lived on that land would, for some unfathomable reason, refuse to let them exploit it! The very existence of a “Russian Russia” is an affront to all the real (as opposed to official) western values and that is simply not something the leaders of the Empire are willing to tolerate. Hence Syria, hence the Ukraine, hence all the silly accusations of “novichok” cum buckwheat attacks. These are all expressions of the same policy
- Paint Russia as some kind of Mordor and create yet another “grand coalition” against her
- Force Russia to submit to the AngloZionist Hegemony
- Defeat Russia politically, economically or militarily
These are objectives for which it is worth risking it all, especially when your own Empire is collapsing and time is not on your side. What we are witnessing since at least 2015 is yet another western Crusade against Russia, a kind of holy war waged in the name of everything the West holds sacred (money, power, hegemonic world domination, secularism, etc.) against everything it abhors (sovereignty, independence, spirituality, traditions).
The simple truth is this: were it not for the Russian military capabilities, the West would have wiped Russia “off the map” long ago, and replaced it with something like a number of “mini-Poland’s” ruled by a liberal comprador elite just like the one currently in charge of the EU. The desperate scream “go away and shut up” is just the expression of having this “western dream” frustrated by the power of the Russian armed forces and the unity of the Russian people behind their current leader. But even the admittedly frustrating existence of Russia is not a sufficient reason to risk it all; there is much more at stake here.
Russia as the tip of a much larger iceberg
Due to geographical, historical, cultural, religious and military factors, Russia is today the objective leader of the worldwide resistance to Empire, at least in moral, psychological and political terms. But that does not mean that she is “anti-USA”, not at all. For one thing, Russia does absolutely not run or control the worldwide resistance to Empire. In fact, to a superficial analysis, Russia often looks pretty much alone in her stance (as shown by the recent Chinese behavior at the UN Security Council). The truth is that other countries who want an end to the AngloZionist hegemony have absolutely no incentive to join Russia on top of the US “shit list” and expose themselves to the wrath of the Hegemon, especially not when Russia seems to be more than willing to bear the brunt of the Empire’s hatred. Besides, like all large and powerful countries, Russia lacks real friends and most countries are more than happy to demand that Russia fix all their problems (as shown by the constant stream of accusations that Russia has not done enough in this or that part of the planet). And yet all these countries are not exactly standing in line to show solidarity with Russia when she might need it. So when I say that Russia leads the resistance I am not suggesting that she does that the way the USA runs NATO or some “coalition of the willing”. Russia simply leads by the fact that she does not “go away” or, even more so, does not “shut up”.
Russia is the only country on the planet, with the possible exception of Iran, which openly and unapologetically dares to denounce the Empire’s hypocrisy and which is willing to back her words with military power if needed. The DPRK is a unique and local case. As for the various Bolivarian countries and movements in Latin America, they are currently being defeated by the Empire. In theory, the Muslim world definitely has the potential to play a bigger role in the resistance to the Empire, but the Wahabi-virus injected into the Muslim world by the USA+KSA+Israel has, at least so far, prevented the emergence of a successful and truly Islamic model besides the one of the Islamic Republic of Iran (hence the demonization of the latter by the AngloZionists).
And yet …
The Empire is in the process of losing the entire Middle-East. Not so much because of some brilliant and Machiavellian Russian or Iranian policies, but more as a courtesy of its own infinitely arrogant, stupid and self-defeating policies. The overthrow of Saddam Hussein will probably go down in history as one of the dumbest political decisions ever (Bolton was behind that one too, by the way). That was an entirely self-inflicted catastrophe. As was the almost equally disastrous invasion of Afghanistan. Another self-inflicted disaster for the AngloZionists was their support for the US/EU led coup in the Ukraine, which not only resulted in a calamity which the Europeans will have to pay for for many decades to come (think of it as a big Somalia on the EU’s doorstep) but also did an amazing job uniting the Russian people behind their leaders and reduced the pro-Western feelings in the Russian public opinion to something in the range of 2-5 percent at the most. “Getting” the Ukraine sure would not have been worth “losing” Russia.
Then there is China which the USA has grossly mismanaged since the so-called Third Taiwan Strait Crisis in 1996 when Clinton militarily threatened China (see here for details) and with whom Trump has now launched a trade war in order to MAGA (good luck with that!).
In contrast, all the real “action” is now centered around the OBOR project in which China and Russia play the main role and in which the Anglosphere will play no role at all. Add the Petro-Yuan to the equation and you have the emergence of a new Eurasian model which threatens to make the entire Empire simply irrelevant.
And then there is Turkey (2nd most powerful NATO member state). And Pakistan for that matter. Or Afghanistan. Or Iraq. Or Yemen. Everywhere the Empire is in full retreat leaving only chaos behind.
The truth is that Russia would never be a credible threat to the AngloZionist Hegemony if it was not for the innumerable self-inflicted disasters the Empire has been absorbing year after year after year. In reality, Russia is no threat to anybody at all. And even China would not be a threat to the Empire if the latter was not so arrogant, so over-stretched, so ignorant, reckless and incompetent in its actions. Let me just give one simple, but stark, example: not only does the USA not have anything remotely resembling a consistent foreign policy, it does not even have any ministry of foreign affairs. The Department of State does not deal with diplomacy simply because the US leaders don’t believe in diplomacy as a concept. All the DoS does is issue threats, sanctions, ultimatums, make demands, deliver score-cards (on human rights and the like, of all things!) and explain to the public why the USA is almost constantly at war with somebody. That is not “diplomacy” and the likes of Nikki Haley are not diplomats. In fact, the USA has no use for International Law either, hence the self-same Nikki Haley openly declaring at a UNSC meeting that the USA is willing to ignore the decisions of the UNSC and act in complete violation of the UN Charter. Simply put: thugs have no need for any diplomacy. They don’t understand the concept.
Just like their Israeli masters and mentors, the US Americans have convinced themselves that all they need to be successful on the international scene is to either threaten the use of force or actually use force. Which works great (or so it seems) in Gaza or Grenada, but when dealing with China, Russia or Iran, this monomaniacal approach rapidly shows its limitations, especially when your force is really limited to shooting missiles from afar or murdering civilians (neither the USA nor Israel nor, for that matter, the KSA has a credible “boots on the ground” capability, hence their reliance on proxies).
The Empire is failing, fast, and for all the talk about “Animal Assad” or “Rocket Man” being in need of AngloZionist punishment, the stakes are the survival of Hegemony imposed upon mankind at the end of WWII and, again, at the end of the Cold War, and the future of our planet. There cannot be one World Hegemon and a multipolar world order regulated by international law. It’s an either-or situation. And in that sense, this is all much bigger than Syria or even Russia.
From Douma to Donetsk?
There is still a chance that the AngloZionists will decide to strike Syria symbolically, as they did last year following the previous chemical false flag in Khan Sheikhoun (Trump has now probably tweeted himself into a corner which makes some kind of attack almost inevitable). Should that happen though, we should not celebrate too soon as this will just be a minor course change, the 21st-century anti-Russia Crusade will continue, most likely in the form of a Ukronazi attack on the Donbass.
Quick reminder: the purpose of such an attack will not be to reconquer and then ethnically cleanse the Donbass, but to force the Russian Federation to prevent such an outcome by openly intervening. Such a Russian intervention will, of course, quickly stop the war and crush the Ukronazi forces, but at that point the tensions in Europe will go through the roof, meaning that NATO will (finally!) find a halfway credible mission for itself, the Germans will have to give up on North Stream II, Poland and the Baltic statelets will make money by becoming the East European version of Okinawa and the Anglo powers (US/UK) will firmly reestablish control over the EU, Brexit notwithstanding. Furthermore, Russia will become the target of a total economic war, including an energy blockade (the US will be more than happy to impose its overpriced gas on the Europeans), a disconnection from SWIFT, a seizure of Russian assets, a ban on Russian financial operations in the EU, etc. That could be risky, of course, especially with a trade war with China also taking place, but these are just options. What is certain is that as long as Putin or anybody like him remains in power in Russia, the Congress will continue to slap sanctions after sanctions after sanctions on Russia. In fact, during most of her history, even before the Revolution, Russia was under one type of western sanctions or another. There is absolutely nothing new here and, as I like to remind people these days, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, especially with maniacal regimes and leaders.
Besides, as I have already mentioned in the past, and unlike the current confrontation in Syria, a war in the Ukraine is a very safe bet for the Empire. First, when the goal is the defeat of “your” side, almost any military adventure is pretty safe. Second, once the Russians are in Novorussia, they will “own it”, meaning that they will have to carry the huge financial burden of rebuilding it. Third, such a Russian presence would consolidate and even boost the Ukie nationalists who, by the way, will have a golden opportunity to blame everything they did wrong over the past 4 years on the Russians. Fourth, any such operation will get a lot of the worst and most rabid Ukronazi killed and that will remove a potential problem from the Poroshenko-types the US much prefers to deal with. Finally, as I said, this will give NATO a sacred mission to “defend Europe against a revanchist Russian rogue state” thereby crushing any European hopes for even a modest degree of independence from the Anglosphere. And the worst case? The worst case would be if the Novorussians can stop the Ukronazi attack without overt Russian intervention. But even if that happens and even if the Novorussians launch some kind of counter-offensive liberating Mariupol or Slaviansk, these are irrelevant losses from the point of view of the Empire which sees both Russians and Ukrainians as cannon fodder. Just as the Empire wants Arabs and Muslims to kill each other on Israel’s behalf in the Middle-East, so does the Empire want nothing more than to see Ukrainians and Russians kill each other in maximal numbers and for as long as possible.
[Sidebar: Some might suggest here that the Novorussians could not only defeat the Ukronazi forces but also liberate the rest of the Ukraine, including Kiev. I find that exceedingly unlikely. Here is why: First, all the hurrah-patriotic nonsense notwithstanding, there are very good and objective reasons why the Novorussians could not liberate Mariupol the first time around (there was a major risk of Ukrainian envelopment for the Novorussian force) or why it took them so long to retake control of the Donetsk airport: during most of their existence, Novorussian forces were composed of a mix of different types of units which, for all their personal courage, were simply not capable of operational-level offensives. They were limited to tactical-level engagements which, even when successful, do not necessarily lead to operational-level developments. There seems to have been major changes made in the command structure of the Novorussian forces. The liberation of the Donetsk airport and, even more so, the Debaltsevo “cauldron” were joint DNR-LNR efforts, but even if, as I suspect, the Novorussians are now capable of operational-level counter-offensives, this is still not what it would take to liberate Kiev. Furthermore, as one Novorussian officer commented, “the further West we go, the less we are seen as liberators and the more as occupiers”. Last but not least, Russia will not allow the Novorussians to liberate most of the Ukraine even if they could do so, because then Russia would have to pay for the staggering costs of trying to fix this massive “European Somalia”, and that is a task far beyond her current means. For all the East-European hallucinations about some Russian invasion, Russia has neither the desire nor even the means to invade anybody. The painful reality is this: the Ukrainians will pay a dear price for their Russophobic delusions and most of the bill to fix that mess will have to be paid by the rest of Europe. They created that nightmare, let them fix it now.]
Conclusion: back to Syria
None of the above should distract us from what is by far the biggest danger currently facing us all – the risks of a US-Russian war in Syria. In fact, this reality seems to be slowly dawning even on the most obtuse of presstitutes who are now worrying about a spill-over effect. No, not in Europe or the USA, but on Israel, of course. Still, the fact that there are folks who understand that Israel might not survive a superpower clash on its doorstep is a good thing. Maybe the Israel lobby in the USA, or a least the part of it which cares for Israel (many/most only pretend to), will be more vocal than all the silent Anglo shabbos-goyim who don’t seem to be able to muster even a minimal amount of self-preservation instinct? Bibi Netanyahu felt the need to call Putin after the Israeli ambassador to Russia was read the riot act by Russian officials following the (admittedly rather lame) Israeli airstrike on the T-4 Syrian air force base. Not much of a hope, I admit..
This is not about good guys versus bad guys anymore. It’s about sane versus insane. I think that we can safely place Trump, Bolton, Haley and the rest of them in the “terminally delusional” camp. But what about the top US generals? I asked two well-informed friends, and they both told me that there is probably nobody above the rank of Colonel with enough courage left to object to the Neocon’s insanity, even if that means WWIII. Again, not much hope here either…
There is a sura (Al-Anfal 8:30) of the Qur’an which Sheikh Imran Hosein often mentions which I want to quote here: And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners. And since we are talking about Syria where Iran and Hezbollah are targets as much (or more) as the Russians, it is also fitting here to quote a very popular Shia slogan which calls to remember that the battle against oppression must be fought ceaselessly and everywhere: “Every Day Is Ashura and Every Land Is Karbala”. And, of course, there are the words of Christ Himself: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” (Matt 10:28).
Such religious references will, no doubt, irritate the many “enlightened” westerners for whom such language reeks of obscurantism, fanaticism, and bigotry. But in Russia or the Middle-East, such references are very much part of the national or religious ethos. To illustrate my point I want to quote from Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah’s “Divine Victory Speech” spoken in 2006 following the crushing victory by a relatively small Hezbollah force of the combined might of the Israeli ground, air and naval forces:
We are today celebrating a big strategic, historic, and divine victory. How can the human mind imagine that a few thousand of your Lebanese resistance sons – if I wanted, I would give the exact number – held out for 23 days in a land exposed to the skies against the strongest air force in the Middle East, which had an air bridge transporting smart bombs from America, through Britain, to Israel; against 40,000 officers and soldiers – four brigades of elite forces, three reserve army divisions; against the strongest tank in the world; and against the strongest army in the region? How could only a few thousand people hold out and fight under such harsh conditions, and [how could] their fighting force the naval warships out of our territorial waters? By the way, the army and the resistance are capable of protecting the territorial waters from being desecrated by any Zionist. [Applause] [And how could their fighting] also lead to the destruction of the Mirkava tanks, which are an object of pride for the Israeli industry; damage Israeli helicopters day and night; and turn the elite brigades – I am not exaggerating, and you can watch and read the Israeli media – into rats frightened by your sons? [How did this happen] while you were relinquished by the Arabs and the world and in light of the political (human solidarity was profound though) division around you? How could this group of mujahidin defeat this army without the support and assistance of Almighty God? This resistance experience, which should be conveyed to the world, depends – on the moral and spiritual level – on faith, certainty, reliance [on God], and readiness to make sacrifices. It also depends on reason, planning, organization, armament, and, as is said, on taking all possible protective procedures. We are neither a disorganized and sophistic resistance, nor a resistance pulled to the ground that sees before it nothing but soil, nor a resistance of chaos. The pious, God-reliant, loving, and knowledgeable resistance is also the conscious, wise, trained, and equipped resistance that has plans. This is the secret of the victory we are today celebrating, brothers and sisters.
These words could also be used to describe the relatively small Russian task force in Syria. In fact, there are numerous parallels which could be made between Hezbollah’s role and position in the Middle-East and Russia’s role and position in the world. And while both are well-trained, well-armed and well-commanded, it is their spiritual power which will decide the outcome of the wars waged against them by the Hegemony. AngloZionist secularists will never understand that – they just can’t – and that will bring their inevitable downfall. The only question is the price mankind will have to pay to have that last Empire finally bite the dust.
The Saker
I’m not sure if Empire would collapse with a nuclear Armageddon.
But I’m sure that US won’t trade New York, UK wont trade London, and France won’t trade the Paris for Duma.
I’m sure that Assad regime, Russia and Iran, if decide to go HARD, then they could bomb Duma ala Dresden.
The threat on North Korea, and the threat over Syria might be a new tactic of Globalism toward World OCUPATION.
This I believe refers to a very common misconception.
Of course nobody will risk WW3 over Douma, or anything Syrian.
Rather, Douma is likely just the pretext for belligerence that was always intended, likely for the reasons Saker cites in his article.
the dumb psychopaths in charge don’t really know what they are doing – so it could get out of their control very quickly. We (especially foreigners watching Harvey Goldstein – produced movies with pedos in them like Kevin Spacey etc) have been exposed to a lot of propaganda to assume that these dumb idiots are in control, wise and some kind of experts….In reality they are kind of like American ambassadors world wide – greedy, rich (in money and nothing else) ass-lickers who have no clue about diplomacy or anything else. Most have inherited their money (and therefore power and influence). And they get their positions through bribes and donations. And are quite insecure and weak mentally.
I remember a couple of years ago there was a hearing at the US congress – and the ambassador to Norway did not even know which parties were in power in Norway. .
Tomo, I actually have a theory about their riches. They got them by robbing countries like Germany blind, using “holo…..” as an excuse.
I agree – and I have met children of these very wealthy people – insecure, not that happy at all, feeling inadequate etc – many overdose. Their parents treat them badly- sometimes they don’t even talk. to each other. They eventually leave them the inheritance, sometimes not.
Also in England – I used to know a son of Queen’s Secretary – a really nice guy has a degree from Edinburgh uni I think. He ended up in some kind of mental institution – very likely because his parents treated him like a dumb idiot (and he had a degree in physics I think and was a bright, nice guy)
The UK ruling ‘elite’ go through the psychological trauma of private school education, often boarding. There they are inculcated in the habits and ways and means of psychopathy, particularly the joys of bullying sadism and psychological torment. The process produces the type of villain, like Churchill, who used poison gas in Iraq, and who, when reading a report on the Great Bengal Famine in the 40s, which he worsened by exporting food from the region as the famine hit home, noted in the margin, ‘Why has Gandhi not been killed yet’.
The Zionazis prefer their stooges arrogant but stupid, compliant but ignorant and corrupt. They chose the lesser types because it feeds their malignant narcissism and their belief that they represent some sort of intellectual Herrenvolk. It’s one of the reasons they despise, and fear, China. No self-respecting Chinese is ever going to buy the guff that ‘Ashkenazi Jews’ are the most intelligent people on Earth, one of the bed-rocks of the Zionazi group narcissistic self-image.
No FIFA World Cup, Occasional-that is certain. For starters. The publication today of the ludicrous sham of ‘evidence’ of Russian responsibility in the Skripal Affair, and, risibly, Putin’s direct control of the chemical weapons assassination process, by the May regime, tells you that as well as being insane, incompetent and extraordinarily stupid, the regime thinks everyone else is as well-in addition to being terminally gullible.
“Go away and shut up” has been the dream of all western leaders since at least a millennium (interspersed and strengthened by regular (and failed) attempts at conquering and/or converting the Russians). Just think how frustrating it has been for a civilization which has established colonies worldwide,”
-You do know that pretty much everything beyond European Russia is colonies right? Or do you think the tribes that Russia crushed and annex in central Asia and Siberia actually held a vote to join Russia?
Neither did anyone ask the various tribes that make up modern day UK, Germany and literally every other country in human history if they want to join.
Democracy is degeneracy and sickness. Ad hominem statement removed … mod
It remind me of the tribes in North America….is that what you say ?….by the way, the colonies of the USA in South America , Asia and….EUROPE are also under the “protection” of the Big Brother ?….
“Go away and shut up” has been the dream of all western leaders since at least a millennium (interspersed and strengthened by regular (and failed) attempts at conquering and/or converting the Russians).but which would regularly defeat them on the battlefield even when they all joined forces lead by their “best and brightest” leaders (Napoleon, Hitler and… Trump?). ”
-All countries fight against each other from time to time, this type divisiveness attemping to create conflict narrative between different European countries where Russia is the eternal victim is ridiculous or do you think that UK is in a millennium long struggle to conquer France or that France is in a ancient struggle to conquer German territories? You do know that before Hitler attacked Russia(USSR) he attacked France, tried to attack UK and attacked Poland? You do know that before Napoleon attacked Russia he attacked pretty much everyone else first.
Can we please stop peddling the MSM narrative like the ugly word(s) “Assad Regime”? This is not a Regime. It’s a democratically elected “Government”.
The same applies to any democratically elected government, particularly Russia or Iran.
Thank you.
As Mr. Orwell pointed out, language matters. If you control someone’s language, you have at least in some part controlled how they think. Double-talk leads to double-think.
So, yes, this commenter is correct and what they say is important. We should all be careful not to adopt the language that the propaganda channels try to insert into our minds.
At this time, one thing I can say with a high degree of certainty, that it is “highly likely” that Theresa May is a liar.
there is no way that can be disputed ,
“Highly Likely” May.
Kind of a funny handle for The Hag, since “may” is a modal verb meaning merely “possibly,” not “highly likely.”
Katherine
Uh, everything collapses with a “nuclear Armageddon.” That’s why its called Armageddon.
If anyone at all survives such an event, they’ll be trying to rebuild from the equivalent of the Dark ages. Even if some major city does not get nuked out of existence, the complex structures that supply such cities with needed food and materials collapse and people would have to flee that city. It is only those complex logistics that allow such a concentration of people to live in one place far from farms.
Please don’t forget the background radiation which will be responsible for generations to come of cancers and birth defects….. so yes, not likely any city will survive after the bomb falls.
As usual, it’s perceived to be very important to even the most die-hard, rugged Western ”individualists” never to express any sympathy — let alone admiration — for the West’s enemies, past and present; hence their instant parroting of whatever Zionazi propaganda memes they are being served such as the ”Assad regime”.
And, yes, the imbecilic tripe was submitted anonymously as per procedure.
Saker
Why didn’t Russia do way more shows of force before this moment came ? Why no MOAB drop ? No calibers lately or scuds from Iran ?
Why didn’t Russia pull out of START and test some nuclear bombs ? All Russia had to do was put a scare in some congress ppl and some Europeans. The western axis was more afraid of Kim Jong Un a few weeks ago than they are of Russia today ! Because Russia didn’t do enough shows of force.
WHY WHY WHY did China sit back and let this happen at the UN ? Why didn’t China join Russia at their bases in Syria ? Why didn’t China help Assad in exchange for a navy base in Syria ?
Secularists tend to live through nihilistic pessimism, so show them more threat, they just see the chance to make more bombs and clear the planet of more rotten people. The Empire needs to be shown for what it is, to its everyone including its own people. Going all in is perfect for the opposite – no time to think for anyone, and the story is lost, there would just be a world war between the two camps, and 90% would suspend reason entirely there and then.
“WHY WHY WHY did China sit back and let this happen at the UN ?”
The best explanation (actually, the only sensible explanation) i’ve so far seen is this /east-med-sitrep-march-april-2018/#comment-509358
‘Why, why, why Delilah… Forgive me Delilah I just couldn’t take any more’
“China to stage surprise live-fire navy drill ‘to warn Taiwan and show support for Russia’
Beijing springs announcement of exercises after staging the country’s biggest navy parade”
‘Beijing announced suddenly on Thursday that it would hold live-fire drills in the Taiwan Strait next week, a move military observers said sent a message to Taipei and was also a show of geopolitical support for Russia to put pressure on the United States’.
@http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2141505/surprise-move-china-mount-live-fire-navy-drills-taiwan
“Vanuatu PM defends China deals but vows to oppose any new foreign military base”
‘Port Vila: Vanuatu’s Prime Minister has vowed to “fiercely oppose” any push to build a foreign military base on the Pacific island nation, while also defending his government’s close ties to “friend and global leader” China.
In his first major statement since Fairfax Media revealed China’s ambitions to establish a permanent military presence in the South Pacific, Charlot Salwai also maintained that a Beijing-funded and constructed wharf capable of accepting warships was entirely Vanuatu’s idea and aimed at helping its people…
Fairfax Media revealed on Tuesday China was eyeing a permanent military presence in Vanuatu and had made initial approaches to the country. Beijing has been showering Vanuatu, which has a population of about 270,000, with hundreds of millions of dollars in development money over recent years.
Top national security figures in Canberra and Washington are deeply concerned about China’s ambitions for Vanuatu and its overtures to the small nation”.
@https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/vanuatu-pm-defends-china-deals-but-vows-to-oppose-any-new-foreign-military-base-20180412-p4z96m.html
“Intentions can change overnight’: Ex-minister’s warning on China’s Vanuatu plan”
‘London: A former British defence minister has called on Theresa May’s government to reassert itself in the Asia-Pacific, saying China’s assurances that it poses no threat to the world order cannot be trusted.
Sir Gerald Howarth, who served as the under secretary of state at the Ministry of Defence before his retirement last year, has been pressing Westminster to take a more muscular stance against China.
Sir Gerald said Fairfax Media’s revelations that Beijing has sought to establish a military base in Vanuatu showed President Xi Jinping’s assurance that China “does not have geopolitical calculations” was hollow.
China’s actions speak louder than words, Sir Gerald told Fairfax Media.
‘Their relentless build up of military facilities on South China Sea atolls whose ownership is disputed, their cavalier dismissal of the judgement of the international body in The Hague which rejected China’s claims, their threats to neighbours like Vietnam and now their reported interest in establishing further military facilities in Vanuatu flatly contradict Xi’s claims,” he said”.
@https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/intentions-can-change-overnight-ex-minister-s-warning-on-china-s-vanuatu-plan-20180412-p4z9c1.html
Think globally, act locally.
That’s why, Delilah.
“That’s why, Delilah.”
Where is the “support” for Russia in any of that (other than saying it is)?
http://www.unz.com/akarlin/ww3/
“2.f. China
There’s a small possibility that China will use the opportunity to seize Taiwan and solidify its hegemony over the South China Sea, though it’s not really militarily ready for that yet (many of its weapons system are close to qualitative convergence with the US, but it has yet to mount a credible buildup, which will take another decade or two).
Still, the US being so preoccupied elsewhere might be too juicy of an opportunity to miss out on.
Although it is uncertain to what extent China will help out Russia, it is not in its interests to allow it to collapse and drift over to the Western camp. Russia is China’s strategic rear, and a secure source of hydrocarbons and minerals should tensions with the US increase to the point that they shut down its sea routes to the Middle East.
Still, on the off chance that China decides to join the West in pressuring Russia, then the latter’s situation becomes hopeless, and it might as well capitulate sooner rather than later.”
China has made its position quite clear. Including by flying their defense minister to Moscow and issuing public statements that China is standing firmly with Russia.
This comment board seems full of people who think that if someone isn’t blowing something up, then they are not serious. Which just tells me that they probably watch way too much western, corporate television.
China has been very open and direct in saying that if Russia falls then they know that they will be next. Which of course means that they know it would be better to fight now with Russia as a strong ally than to fight later alone.
And of course, Trump has been a complete strategic moron in attacking China with a trade war at exactly the same time that China is deciding whether or not to stand with Russia. A more intelligent and subtle war criminal like Kissinger would have launched a charm offensive at China trying to seperate them from Russia. But someone like Trump who can’t seem to think even as far ahead as his next tweet has pushed China towards Russia at exactly the wrong time and thus made it even more certain that China will absolutely stand with Russia.
“China has made its position quite clear. Including by flying their defense minister to Moscow and issuing public statements that China is standing firmly with Russia.”
You mean, as clear as mud:
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804051063249110-chinese-defense-minister-russia-visit-analysis/
“”We’ve come to support you,” Wei said after meeting with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. The Russian Defense Minister reciprocated his counterpart’s sentiments, saying that the visit “underlines the special character of relations between Russia and China.””
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/13/russia-vetoes-u-n-draft-resolution-condemning-chemical-attack-in-syria-china-abstains/
“After spending days claiming it would welcome United Nations involvement in the Syrian chemical weapons attack, Russia used its veto power on the U.N. Security Council to block a resolution condemning the attack and calling for its perpetrators to be brought to justice.
China abstained from the vote instead of voting “no,” a decision President Donald Trump praised as “wonderful” and a sign of progress in U.S.-Chinese relations since China generally votes with Russia on Syrian affairs.
China’s U.N. ambassador, Liu Jieyi, said the resolution could be “amended” into a form China would vote for and said it was his country’s “longstanding hope that the Security Council can speak with one voice on Syria.”
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If Russia can operate in multiple theaters, so can China.
But whatever. Its China’s total loss. China cant seem to handle anything extra and is the worlds worst in history at playing the strongest hand there is to play *worlds biggest CREDITOR*
Hahaha… I liked that ‘Delilah’. Brilliant mind, good sense of humour.
Dear me-some pipsqueak from the rapidly crumbling off-shore island, the ‘septic isle’, is threatening China from, what, 15,000 kilometres or so away, over China’s relations with another sovereign state. These loonies must think it is 1839 again, and China is still the ‘sick man of Asia’, and God is an Englishman! Tell me it’s a sham, a sad, sick, joke, by someone. The raw, stinking, reeking, stench of racist contempt simply pours off this tripe.
Really.
The sense of entitlement to the whole globe is . . . startling in the extreme.
Brings to mind the flea walking up the elephant’s leg with “seduction” on its mind.
Keeping it PC here.
Katherine
What has happened that China has ‘allowed’ at the UN?
Last I heard, both sides resolutions were vetoed and nothing passed. Thus, nothing has happened.
It of course makes zero difference as to how many veto votes are cast at the UNSC. There was abolutely nothing to be gained by having China cast a second veto vote. And if holding back a completely meaningless vote throws even a slight degree of confusion into one’s enemies, then so be it.
Total absolute rubbish. Every time China abstains instead of votes with Russia, the western axis gloats.
Exactly. But, they are wrong. China does NOT mean what they think.
“Why didn’t China join Russia at their bases in Syria ? Why didn’t China help Assad in exchange for a navy base in Syria ?”
To paraphrase a quip by US President Coolidge at the time of US isolationism: “The business of China is business” :-)
The question could be turned back: why would China bother about a Navy base in the Mediterranean? Why would it war in Syria? “What’s in it for us ?”
If it all kicks off in Syria, and forces the US focus, politically, militarily and financially, some in China might argue that this would be a good time to take back Taiwan.
I’m not suggesting likely; but in that scenario, that’s arguably the best help that China could give in fighting the empire.
I believe China has invested a lot in Syria and Syria is important for their Silk road project.So there’s that.
They have long memories, and recall their embassy was bombed by NATO in 1999, there’s that too. That provocation was never settled.
I guess they have invested some, but Syria is not a really major country, its economy was rather poor even before inception of civil war, and it’s not in any way necessary for the Silk Road project.
It’s as if one asked whether Burma or Laos are economically important for the EU. Well, there is some European investment there, yes, but…
Plus Burma and Laos at least are not havocs of civil war.
I think current Chinese leaders are first and foremost realists.
In other words China prefers building things and seeking mutual and multi-lateral benefit, to destruction and killing. How very inscrutable they are. Do they not care for Western ‘liberal values’ as personified by Trump, May, Micron and Bibi?
If two rational and intelligent countries from an alliance, then it is rational that each would use their strengths to their advantage.
Russia has a more advanced military and at least a small degree of an ability to project force outside of Russia. China has not shown this ability.
On the other hand, China has a strong and growing economy and has been projecting economic power outside of China.
Thus, it makes sense that each side would use their strengths to do what they do best. Which of course is what has happened in Syria. Russia military power to defeat the jihadists, followed by Chinese economic strength to help them rebuild.
What rational and intelligent people and countries do not do is to waste efforts and resources on meaningless symbolic efforts just to ‘send a message’. And, here’s the part that’s guaranteed to shock the west who’s been taught to think like gangsters, they can even trust each other and count on their allies to stay true to them.
A truly shocking thought to the western mind that has been taught that the only thing a ally is good for is in providing a back to stab, I know.
Overseas bases are expensive to obtain and even more expensive to maintain, meaning to man, supply and defend them. As the British have learned, the loss of a base is a huge blow to the reputation as a powerful. The last loss was only averted with the help of the USA. Falklands and South Georgia.
The first part of Saker’s piece “On Escalation” by the late Herman Kahn.
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Why didn’t YOU carry a sign on your downtown street corner telling your country to STOP!
Lots of commenters want Russia or China to do something, when the commenters themselves won’t do anything.
Be the change you want to see.
Do something!
Because it’s all a game. The real war is between the people and those who rule.
The Cold War at some level was fake and so is this entire set up between the West and China/Russia. I do not doubt the sincerity of Putin or a host of other(mostly non-Western politicians but they are being manipulated.
A rooster fighting in a cockfighting is also sincere and doing what comes natural to it but that doesn’t mean someone placed it there knowing it would fight.
And when a politician finally sees the strings and tries to do something really unpredictable and asymmetrical, like JFK conducting diplomacy outside the box, they kill him.
That the entire WWII was planned and scripted is clear from Hess’ flight and Schacht’s acquittal
Does anybody doubt that the League of Nations was founded mainly for one reason, to facilitate the British Mandate over Palestine and thus the massive Jewish immigration into it. And the UN for the creation of that terror state that is to be the seat of their anti-Christ.
Each time they tore down the entire structure and burned down the world when it no suited their interest.
It doesn’t matter to them that just about every in the world is waking up the truth and the true nature of our history. Most of them will perish anyway in their designs. ‘Mowing the lawn and all…
I am always amazed that the vast majority of those that advocate the theory of evolution never ponder its logical conclusion: at some point a tiny portion of Homo Sapiens Sapiens will stop reproducing with rest and develop a set of beliefs seeing them as a separate species. One that would see itself obviously as the more evolved one with all the ethical and even spiritual implications this has.
How do we view and treat animals for instance?
This subsection of humanity would view itself as ‘Chosen’ as it were, to be the raw material that is to be used in the creation of Man, a creation that, in their view, is still to come since we haven’t finished or even entered the sixth day of Biblical creation.
A heavenly day being the equivalent of a thousand years, in such a view the world would have indeed have been created 6000 yrs ago.
You could even have competing groups w
ithin the group of people subscribing to this view: each of them scrambling to be ones to break free from and dominate the rest of ‘humanity’.
Did I say dominate? I meant to say domesticate.
At the perceived end of each thousand year period there would be a mad dash among them to control the city that is prophesized to be seat of control for the next epoch. When pondering world history and seemingly unconnected events like the Crusades and the Knights Templar, the modern day creation of the Zionist State , Hitler and his talk of a thousand year Reich things make more sense.
Why else would any sane group of leaders, no matter how greedy or shortsighted, risk everything and even court nuclear war?
How would you act in a world, including all the rules and laws in it, you are convinced will not and is not meant to survive?
Of course certain fatalistic beliefs have a way of fulfilling themselves if only enough people act on them.
Is this why, when asked whether he feared the end of the world, Putin joked he did not since he knew exactly when it was due: in billions of years of time when the Sun is set to explode.
Recently I became aware of an Orthodox Christian concept called ‘Katehon'( on a somewhat unrelated note I recommend the eponymous website for a definition and more ).
In short, it is that which hinders or blocks the arrival of the Anti-Christ and thus the End of Times.
There is no agreement about what or even whom it is.
It think it’s faith;
true faith which entails acting in accordance with it.
Well it’s getting late(or early actually) so I am gonna end my rant with something worthwhile as opposed to the rest of it:
By (the passage of ) Time.
Verily Man is in loss!
Except such as who have Faith, and do righteous deeds,
and exhort each other to Truth,
and to Patience and Constancy.
Surah Al Asr
Johnson was receiving prompts from an earpiece on BBC Question Time which was picked up by his microphone.
https://twitter.com/nw_nicholas/status/984559847466307585
MI5 asks Jo Johnson to wear a wire on BBC Question Time. He blows it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAOQzP7r_pg&feature=youtu.be
That’s good. No wonder they are mad and (literally) hearing voices in their heads. Split personalities at work. Simply dumb end-nodes on a whispering network of PR ‘worm-tongue’ deceit. No wonder they cannot think for themselves — they can’t think; full stop! WTF are we paying them for? Our servants they are not (although servant class they truly are). These types revel in being ‘representatives’. News readers and from memory Obama was a prime example.
Some missile action will have to occur if there is going to be reasonable cover generated for a stray missile or two to take out the Dome of the Rock so that construction of the Third Temple can commence.
Dearest Saker, it seems that many truth seekers are coming to the conclusion that we are indeed confronting dark, satanic, and evil forces and, unfortunately, some of the worst represent my country, the USA. ( Bolton, that raving lunatic Nikki Haley, John McCain, and I would include the man that’s lying through his “tweets”, Donald Trump). I don’t know what this means but I’ll mention it anyway. A commenter on one of your articles on Russia Today discovered the following fact (and I did check it out). Guess what the winning lottery number for the New York lottery, Trumps home state was on January 20, 2017 ( Inauguration Day). It was 6666…. Is there any way in hell that that could be a coincidence….?
Really? Well, if true, may be the satanists made it happen – this is their sick way of showing that they were celebrating something, in this case, I bet, that they would attack with their satan support…
In simple terms, Russia has to be more than willing to kill Americans inside Syria. Al Tanf and Hassake bases should be on the target list for retribution. They are indefensible and packed with troops, proxies and equipment. But neither is fortified nor could they sustain under Kalibr or better, Iskander ballistic missile attack.
The defeat would shock the US public like the Tet Offensive did in ’68.
More so, prisoners should be taken and held until the US withdraws.
There is nothing the US public could accept if they saw a few hundred dead and a few hundred marched as prisoners. They would demand immediate withdrawal.
With Pompeo bragging today at his confirmation hearing in the Senate about killing 200 Russians as punishment for Moscow, and bragging on America’s exceptionalism, it’s long past time to shame the American goon elite and shock their world with a counter-strike.
As for Ukraine, there is a ready solution to the expense of taking on Novorossiya’s cost for rebuilding and development. China. They would come in with money to build and farm and extract minerals. Take Odessa, Mariupol and turn them into Chinese vacation locations, with casinos. Russia would have two huge cash cows, not losses sucking their treasury dry.
Destroy as much of Ukraine as you can, take what you want, hand the rest over to China. They’ll move 30 million Chinese in and transform Ukraine completely.
The loss of NS2 will be temporary. The Chinese will use the power in Ukraine.
Eventually, the hold on Europe will be lost.
The Empire cannot hold its colonies while it has to fight Russia, Iran and China. It is impossible.
Defeat of the Hegemon is entirely possible.
We don’t have to wait for some collapse, some falling apart, some Black Swan event.
You do what Vietnam did. You kill them, break the public support, crush their will, and triumph.
Yeah, genocidingbthe Ukros will do much to improve Russian standing in the world, Sun Tzu.
I like your idea about Ukraine. At least, under Chinese, it would finally prosper as it should considering its size, position and natural resources.
“Russia has to be more than willing to kill Americans inside Syria”
Why is Russia obligated to want to kill Americans? Why should the Russian leadership decide to fight against the US? Why should the Russian people bear the cost in blood and treasure of such a war?
Why do you think you have a right to decide what Russia “has to” do? Have you received your marching orders and have you been integrated into Russian armed forces that you propose to put in harm’s way? Are you even Russian?
Gerasimov has stated quite clearly on March 13st what Russia’s “red line” is, that is what condition would prompt Russian reprisal against Western forces : that’s Russian soldiers killed by Western bombs.
Provided it doesn’t happen, Russia can be expected to tolerate Western strikes against Syria. The problem is that war is the territory of the unknown… and Western forces might very well kill Russians even by mistake. I can’t see Russia tolerating such a “mistake”.
I agree with you Alexis, in that Russians and Americans are not natural enemies.
The US leadership however, does not represent the US people, but that of Zion.
Israel is salivating at the prospect of US and Russia fighting each other. It has been mentioned by others on these boards, and I agree, that with NATO and Russian warships in proximity in the Med, we have to be vigilant to Israeli motivations to use a sub to attack a ship from each side before slinking away.
‘Let’s you and him fight.’
It is essential not to fall into the trap. I repeat my own mantra, that to avoid such an outcome, Israel must be told that if it all kicks off in the Med, that their military bases will be flattened as a matter of course. If Russians suffer casualties, then take it out on the Israeli military. It’ll all then blow over quickly.
The worst possible option by far, is for the parties to be tricked into a world war. cui bono?
Well the simple answer to most of your questions is, after Syria it’s Iran and after Iran it’s Russia that’s slated for destruction, the timing and order may change but this is what the Anglo-imperialists are after.So for Russia it’s a simple question of waiting until all the nations near and around Russia are turned from friendly or neutral nations to hostile ones like Ukraine and then fighting the USA when they themselves are attacked or stopping them in places like Syria.
In plain language Russia has to fight the USA in Syria to avoid fighting the USA in Russia.Of course they won’t be fighting alone in Syria Iran,Iraq,Hezbollah,Turkey and of course the Syrians themselves will be fighting with Russia.Incidentally the Russian position of retaliating only in case of attack against Russian assets changed a few days ago to retaliating against any attack on Syria.
Hmmm, not sure that Turkey can be trusted.
Their main contribution would be to
a) stay the heck out of it,
b) permit the Russian Airforce to fly over its airspace.
That latter point alone is hugely treacherous towards NATO, so I guess, just (a).
Erdogon’s natural tendency is to play both sides against each other while grabbing as much as he can for himself. He is therefore an untrustworthy ally to both sides. It is also highly likely to try to side with a winner.
NATO surely can not count on him and Turkey as being certain allies.
There is a possibility that NATO might attack him as a result of this. In some ways, they already have done this with the coup attempt that tried to assasinate him. A further NATO attack on him of course pushes him firmly to the Russian side.
I’ve got this gut feeling that if push comes to shove, Turkey sides with Russia. But its also highly likely that Russia has to show that they will be the winners of this war before Turkey does this.
I can see him allowing Russians to overfly Turkey, especially in terms of a retreat path to get their small forces out of Syria and not having them totally destroyed. I’m not as sure about him allowing Russian attacks to go the other direction across Turkish airspace.
NATO is already in the process of pulling its forces out of the Incirlik airbase. So, I think they’ve gotten the hint that they cannot rely on Turkey.
“So for Russia it’s a simple question of waiting until all the nations near and around Russia are turned from friendly or neutral nations to hostile ones like Ukraine”
Russia is very far from being surrounded by hostiles.
China and Iran are obvious exceptions, just as Central Asian countries. Further away there is India, and Egypt, and most South American countries… Even Israel has a rather good relation with Russia – more than 1 million Israelis are Russians, by the way, which does help :-)
it’s Russia that’s slated for destruction, the timing and order may change but this is what the Anglo-imperialists are after
No imperialists, neither Anglo nor Eskimo nor other will attack a country sporting a resilient nuclear deterrent force. And the Russian one is indeed resilient and secure.
It is standard western corporate propaganda to proclaim that their enemies are isolated.
American mistakes?
They drop bombs on a hospital for an hour but don’t intend to kill the patients and staff in it.
It is only when the price is high that the American public wakes up and demands the war to stop. That is why they switched to a all volunteer army. Less protests. It is also the reason they are going to robotic army as fast as they can. Even a volunteer army complains too much for the war mongers’ liking.
It doesn’t have to be Russians attacking the US bases. The locals would be more than willing to do it.
In any attack there will be a long period where the US air power will not be able to protect their bases in Syria and Iraq. As long as the locals are given the times when they can attack without being under air assault they would extract a very heavy price.
Come on. Russians have been killed before in this conflict. At some point, either they make a stand and react firmly, or they accept that the anglozionists won’t stop till they drive them out. I tend to agree that they need to put their foot down and make a real statement, beyond words. I also believe the anglozionists are mostsly bluffing. They won’t push this beyond the brink. They are not suicidal.
Problem is, this is not about Syria: this about Russia. And pretends that is otherwise is simply wishful thinking. To do nothing in the face of face-slapping and humiliation sends the wrong message, because bullying is about fact-perception. The bully perceives himself as almighty and the others perceive the same. Until the moment in which someone administered a well-deserved beating to the bully and reality sets in (vide Kostya Tszyu versus Zab Judah and Buster Douglas versus Mike Tyson) . It is exactly as in the classroom: if someone slap you in the face and you do exactly nothing, forget it. You will never recover from that. It is about decision and it is about respect. How can you allow some demented Nikki Haley say in a world-stage like the ONU that they will “slap you in the face whenever they want” and do exactly nothing?
The situation is this: Americans don’t respect Russia and the Russians. It is as simple as that. Maybe they are getting the Russians wrong (I believe it), but nobody knows for sure. Surely Zab “super” Judah got the great Kosta Tszyu deadly wrong. We know that know for sure. It is a fact. And the name of this fact is Knock-Out or the Kosta Tszyu Fist.
Now it will escalate. More humiliations, more demonization, more false flags, more deaths. Syrian, Iranians… and Russians (…it is preferable a Syrian dead than a Russian?). In the Middle East and in Ukraine (or wherever their deranged minds plan it). More athletes humiliated and left out. No Football World Cup or a hellish one. And so on and so on. And know what? Someday, in a no very distant future, it will be the Russian succulent territory itself. Because this is really the plan. You surrender to our reckless imperialism or else. They not only don’t respect the Russians: the hate them. Simply because they are “the Enemy” for them. Like someone told me when I was in the US: “You have the DNA of the enemy”. And this will not change. Ever. They are absolutely convinced that the Russians are inferior people (garbage –like Yeltsin: drunkard-buffoons; like Putin: KGB-mobsters). And more than that: they are convinced that their tactics worked then (that they defeated the Soviet Union in the eighties) and that their tactics are working know (that they will finally get away with it: the big prize).
In front of this deeply consolidated, persistent and damaging illusion, there is one and only one answer: the Kosta Tszyu Fist. And better now than tomorrow. Russians have so many options, and they are doing exactly nothing. But to do exactly nothing is not an option.
Or scorched earth…evacuate Donbass and leave it irradiated…?
LM: What makes you any different to the yanks in the way they treat others??? ‘Destroy as much of Ukraine as you can, take what you want, hand the rest over to China.’ Who are you to decide on people there??? I personally know people in the Donbass (Donetsk) & kiev, there are many good people both sides, and you think destroying ukraine is OK??? Have you even been to the DPR/spoken to people there???
If there wasn’t moderation on this site you know what I’d really say to you.
Ralph, I suspect some of the bloodthirsty advocates of destruction are plants, sent here to discredit the views of the entire site. Death and destruction is the ‘Real Evil Empire’s’ game, its modus operandi and its very existential purpose-that’s why it is uniquely Evil.
Thanks for the reminder of what Pompeo said at the hearing..Good Lord Almighty, what an insane display. I can see which “base” he is playing to, there. Apparently these Mixed Nuts (possibly a minority?) will be overjoyed at even larger numbers of Russian dead — if that is the case, I pray that a few of them will visit a national military cemetery, and loose their crazy gung-ho attitude. People talk about the “end of the world”, as if it is some kind of future event. When you see all the tombstones, or, even more disturbing, stand at the site of a mass grave, you realize that for all of those human beings, and for so many of their families, the world ended the day they died. We cannot keep going on like this…… enough is enough!
Thank you for that thorough analysis. It seems step 1 is due tomorrow or soon after, including the sinking of USS Donald Cook. The objective was for Trump to appear tough and invincible, so a strong retaliation is certain. I cannot see how the superpowers could de-escalate from that point on.
Very good analysis( I mean long and very detailled) here,but ultra pessimistic.
According to A Karlin,Putin and RF are done.Capitulation or WW3.
http://www.unz.com/akarlin/ww3/
A good point from that article:
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One commonly cited but fake reason: Supporting an ally. As I have long been pointing out, it was Vladimir Putin himself who pointed out that prior to the war, Assad had visited Paris more frequently than Moscow.
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It’s a bad point from a doomy gloomy article. Syria is a Russian ally – militarily, economically, strategically.
Why else would Russia have her military fighting for Syria?
Who cares about how many times Assad visited Paris before the froggies stabbed him in the back, as they did with Ghaddafi?
“It’s a bad point from a doomy gloomy article”
If you have reason to feel chipper, please share:
“In any case, the ultimate outcome is clear and near certain: The Russian military presence in Syria will be eradicated within a week (mostly within the first two days).”
I guess, so long as you don’t live in Moscow (or New York or London or…) or do but have a lot of clout there is some hope for most though:
“Although the majority – probably the vast majority (90%+) – of the world’s population will survive, that is extremely unlikely to include myself. Although Moscow has the A-135 anti-missile system, which uniquely uses 10 kiloton nuclear missiles to knock down incoming nuclear missiles – in the process flattening much of the surrounding Moscow oblast – it cannot stop a barrage of hundreds of missiles. The most it can do is buy a bit of extra time for the Kremlin elites to descend into the D6 secret subway system and spirit themselves off to remote control bunkers such as the one at Mount Yamantau.”
at Anonymous on April 13, 2018 at 5:11 am UTC
“Although the majority – probably the vast majority (90%+) – of the world’s population will survive, that is extremely unlikely to include myself.”
To be honest, no one really knows. There are plenty of people who’ve modeled nuclear winters, and they’ve come up with answers ranging from “‘very little happens” to “pretty much all life on the planet is doomed”.
The world nuclear arsenal combined will be of Nine countries in the world, which possess a total of 14,900 nuclear weapons. The United States and Russia account for 93 percent of them.
If the world nuclear arsenal combined will explode, we cannot breath for 2 years, and cannot plant for 10 years. There would be survivors, but the world population will go through a “Bottle Neck”, and survivors must start everything from the scratch. Remember the Chernobyl Disaster.
Why do I have a feeling that if a nuclear exchange takes place…Russia will not strike Israel on the basis that Israel will not engage Russian forces directly ?
This would be a very stupid move in my opinion. The survival of the Zionist state of Israel after a nuclear war would be the next biggest disaster after the nuclear war itself.
A full scale attack on NATO forces should include a clause where Israeli defense forces should be at least conventionally decapitated by default !!
Tactically speaking, I can imagine you want to focus on a single nuclear armed enemy……In Russia’s case that is NATO forces (all NATO tactical and strategic targets)
….but how would Russia’s nuclear forces deal with trying to target multiple independent nuclear armed forces ?? How would any nuclear armed nation deal with such a problem ??
May the forces of good win over the forces of evil, inshallah !
Moyen de désescalade : frapper les jésuites c’est frapper les tireurs de ficelles qui veulent la troisième guerre mondiale pour leur agenda diabolique !!
développement sur le sujet :
https://thomaldrin.wordpress.com/2018/04/06/affaire-skripal-gaz-novichok-et-banque-rothschild-jesuites-ma-reponse-cordiale-a-aline-de-dieguez/
In 1987, the guided missile frigate USS Stark was severely damaged by direct hits to her port side from two Exocet air-to-surface missiles launched by an Iraqi modified business jet. The maximum speed of that missile was just under Mach 1. Both missiles were fired simultaneously about 22 nautical miles out and took approximately 2 minutes to impact the ship. Only one of the missile warheads detonated but the strikes were sufficient enough to cause the vessel to list to port and fires raged heavily below decks.
The crew were unprepared for the attack since the ship was sailing outside the conflict zone of the Iran-Iraq war and there were a number of blunders that were attributed to the Stark not engaging the Iraqi jet with the ship’s defensive systems. You can read about the details here (see: https://news.usni.org/2017/05/17/the-attack-uss-stark-at-30 ).
The point made about this event is these ships are vulnerable to missile strikes that will knock them out of combat ready status. When we think of the concept of “massive naval power”, we look at the offensive capability of the missile platforms such as the U.S. highly lauded AEGIS system which can launch scores of missiles into the air. Russia has the S-XXX series of anti-missile batteries that are designed to destroy incoming ordnance but can easily be overwhelmed by shear numbers of attacking missiles.
It seems to me the better counterattack strategy is to focus on incapacitating the warships that are in range of
land, sea and air launched anti-ship missiles simply because only one or two successful hits will do the job as what happened to the USS Stark. Today’s technology for ship defenses is certainly more sophisticated than 30 years ago but so have anti-ship missile speeds increased in excess of Mach 2.
When something hits a ship and explodes causing fire and smoke, klaxons sound and the crew leaves their assigned stations and form up into damage control parties to fight the fire. Emotions run high including fear and panic because of the danger the ship will sink. If the U.S. does attack Syria with cruise missiles and Russia
counterattacks, the world will see the first sea engagement of anti-ship missiles and the devastation they can
bring to the fleet of U.S.-NATO warships in the region.
Yes indeed. If the Russian anti-ship missiles work as advertised the entire fleet would be sunk in hours.
Would it be possible to de-activate or remove the missile warheads, and just have them strike a ship with the kinetic force of Mach X, and the explosive force of the remaining fuel??
To clarify:
A strike from a missile whose warhead had been deactivated would a) demonstrate their capacity and will to target and actually strike launch platforms, without necessarily sinking the vessel or even causing loss of life.
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/18943/putins-air-launched-hypersonic-weapon-appears-to-be-a-modified-iskander-ballistic-missile
“The missile flies at hypersonic speed, 10 times greater than the speed of sound, it is maneuvering in all parts of the flight trajectory. This allows it to overcome all existing and, I think, future air-defense and missile-defense systems, delivering to the target nuclear and other warheads at a distance of more than 2,000 kilometers [1,250 miles].”
Mig-31s which can launch this missile are based in Crimea
A key point in all of this is that the weapons Putin announced had ‘completed testing’.
There is a considerable amount of time between successful tests of a weapon and having large stocks of them at the needed military bases to fight a sustained war.
Which is precisely why the west has decided that now is the time to escalate against Russia. They will have calculated that their chances in a war today are far better than in a few years when Russia has had time to build and deploy these new weapons, along with building more S-400’s and S-500’s and more Armada tanks.
Russian ‘spirituals’ have nothing to say about God’s plans for Russia?
Oh yes they do. Google orthodox Christian ww3 prophecy
In the fast moving world of today, by the time the above article was written and posted, the US Government blinked, and is backing away from confrontation with a nuclear power. The fear we all had before going to bed on Wednesday night was replaced with relief in on Thursday morning when we awoke to news that the NeoCons backed down. Life has been given a 2nd chance on this little blue planet …
Surprisingly, not many web portals are gloating on the fact that the US blinked and has backed down its rhetoric.
Life has been given a second chance? I don’t think so. More like we’ve been given a chance to catch our breath before the next wave.
From Mike Pompeo’s confirmation hearings this week:
“Pompeo described Russia as “a danger to our country” and blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for any “bad blood” between Washington and Moscow. He also vowed to “confront [the Russians] at every vector, cyber, economic, et cetera. We need to make sure Putin doesn’t succeed.”
To quote Jim Morrison: we are riders of the storm.
hi Saker I agree with you this period we live in is very dangerous and easily can end with nukes
and there is another thing that we must think of
there always can happen some unpredicted event that can speed up this hole crisis to armagedon
Wow the spiritual dimension is not something a lot of these sites put forward for consideration. A lot of huffing and puffing lately. Not much calm introspection. The motivation of those building and using the arms is a factor, it is obvious that throwing money at tasks is mostly a good way to spread corruption, whereas honoring commitment and humanity builds a movement. Respect earns more loyalty than cash. I wonder as the “rebels” ride off in the busses how many think, gosh has my commander ever shown mercy? It has to grind away at some of them, why am I fighting for these vicious creeps? Surely they aren’t all psychopaths.
Your words continue to give me some degree of hope Saker, it is ironic to me that you present the Russian perspective and yet reside in the US. I would like to move to where the damage is and help in some way rebuild what these evil folk have destroyed. Contributing to this western culture feels futile. How can one enjoy such excess when others are denied a peaceful association with their loved ones, let alone any comfort. Is anyone trying to organize a peace corps type intervention. Or was that another illusion? All the best to you and yours!
Thank you for bringing up the vitally important spiritual dimensions of all of this unfolding disaster.
And as so many rebels and affiliated groups are now in Idlib….they had better behave or they are nicely concentrated……
Come on World, we cannot let this happen! Allowing these monsters to ruin the only place we have. We can’t go to another Earth, it does not exists. They’re playing with our lives, with our children’s future, erasing all the great things humanity has achieved over millennia of existence. The time is NOW and there will be no more time left for any of us. Do not allow Imbecility, Warmongering, Irrationality and FEAR to annihilate humanity. With each nodding and excuse that “it would not affect me” we become more zombified and closer to complete dilution.
Remember, these criminals are NOTHING without us. They got there with our blessing and carelessness. Just because they walk, they talk, or wearing clothes, does not make them human. They’re just MONSTERS walking, talking and wearing clothes
WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN!
Thank you for your wise and caring comments.
Excellent article, as always from The Saker. I would like to add three points:
The Russian force in Syria is small, but only on the surface. It has the backing of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean, the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. It also has the backing of the Russian Air Force in Russia and in Iran. This makes the Russian military in the Middle East very formidable. No doubt the Pentagon is now analyzing what would happen in case of an attack against Syria, ie. if Russia would sit back and do nothing, or if it would back the Syrians, with all the above mentioned forces. No doubt the Pentagon has in mind the latest Russian high tech, making US naval forces very vulnerable.
When it comes to the US military leadership (generals and admirals), we have a very dangerous situation. I would like to remind readers that during Obama’s Presidency, hundreds of US military officers were purged in a Stalinist type of purge. All competent, pro-US officers were removed, while pro-Wall Street “yes men” were installed.That was reported by analysts on the Internet. The Saker is indeed correct to state that today’s high ranking US officers dare not go against the imperial plans of the Anglo-Zionists. This means that Wall Street is dictating to the Congress, the US Government and the Pentagon, Trump included. In fact Trump leaves the impression of being reduced to a remote controlled robot, doing as told.
When it comes to the Donbass, I do not have the impression that the Russians of Donbass want to liberate the whole of Ukraine. They have no need for that. Why should they ? All they have to do is hold on to what they have. I have to admit that I am slightly surprised that Poroshenko did not attack the Donbass prior to the elections in Russia, as I was expecting it. It would appear that he is having second thoughts. The Donbass Russians have on the Internet openly stated that they are prepared for the attack, having more than three years to organize their military, which has assumed an almost professional status. Poroshenko on the other hand can rely on his demoralized conscript army. Last year the Ukrainian police was raiding night clubs and disco clubs, looking for draft dodgers. You don’t fight a war with that kind of material. This year there were also two demonstrations in Kiev against Poroshenko, which is remarkable, bearing in mind the number of neo-Nazis in the city. The impression is that both the Donbass Russians and Putin are playing the waiting game, waiting for Ukraine to implode financially. The country has been reduced to a feudal state, looted by foreign corporations, banks and domestic oligarchs. The bulk of the population regrets that coup d’etat in 2014, being reduced to feudal serfs having trouble paying their monthly bills. Analysts are already predicting the break up of Ukraine into three parts, and I think it is going that way. Putin does not need to intervene in the Donbass, as I don’t see Poroshenko being able to retake it. Those high tech weapons given to the Ukrainian military mean nothing, as the Russians in the Donbass are dug in. In case of attack, the Ukrainians will be in the open. A few days ago the Ukrainian Army launched a commando raid in the Donbass, testing the Russians. They killed two Russians in a surprise attack. However, they themselves lost two dead and four wounded, achieving nothing.
Finally, the Anglo-Zionists are aware that times are changing and that Euro-Asia is on the rise. However, they are having trouble accepting it. No empire wants to disappear, as plundering habits cannot be cured. We shall now see how far the empire will go to save itself. However, time is not on its side, not with its gigantic foreign and domestic debt and the fact that the dollar is printed backed by nothing. How long can this last ?
Battle of Pharsalus
Caesar’s forces were outnumbered approximately 10 to 1 against Pompey..”Pompey’s men have options, ours do not.” Caesar, by deft employment of a concealed reserve force of infantry, decimated and routed Pompey’s cavalry. In the pursuit thereafter, Pompey’s force was virtually destroyed or deserted. Pompey himself fled to his unpleasant end in Egypt.
Strategy can outweigh numbers… here we have dual theater war – China on the economic side, Russia on the military side. Trump has his own internal enemies as well, an unauthorized strike is Syria, could lead to a impeachment (of course this detail ignored in the past, by favored Pres. that were gratis); however here, the lack of congressional approval can be used by his enemies (Trump is firmly non-gratis) to impeach promptly. More strategy to consider.
ThirteenthFloor
As military history proves, quality on many an occasion surpassed quantity. I trust the Pentagon knows what it is doing. Or does it ?
I think PCR put it well: belief vs facts…
“Here is “Mad Dog” Mattis, the US Secretary of War, stating that he has no evidence that there was a chemical weapons attack in Syria last week, but that he personally believes that there was one.
I remember when a person who claimed to believe something for which there was no evidence was either a religious fanatic or an ideologue. No serious person would express a conviction when there was no evidence to support it.
This raises questions as to Mattis’ fitness for office. He is prepared to lead the US into war with Russia based on nothing but his belief. This is insanity.”
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/04/12/american-officials-continue-make-laughing-stocks/
Anonymous
It’s not insanity, but a severe case of wishful thinking based on self delusion. We have two mafia style banking clans, one in London and the other one in New York, who are in big financial trouble. They are, yet again, applying the old banker trick of taking you to war every time they find themselves in trouble. Don’t forget that the US solved it’s 1930’s depression by entering World War Two, when production increased, boosting the economy. The Military Industrial Complex was then created, which cannot function without wars, all based on phony pretenses. That’s what we have today, yet again.
“We have two mafia style banking clans, one in London and the other one in New York, who are in big financial trouble.”
They have a greater share of World wealth than they ever had, what trouble are they in?
They are definitely not in trouble – rather just an insatiable appetite.
Anonymous
Wrong. They are in trouble. All their wealth expressed in fiat currency is becoming worthless, excluding real estate. London is short of gold. Why ? Where did it go ? Fort Knox has very little gold left. Why ? Where did it all go ? Now who took it ?
Wrong. They are in trouble. All their wealth expressed in fiat currency is becoming worthless
Why is it becoming worthless? if the sum of humanity can be fooled into believing the ponzi scheme (e.g) Apple is worth 1 Trillion $US or 10 Trillion $US or £900GBP or £9000GBP, so long as you own the Lion’s share of the scheme there is no problem. When your credit default swap assets are, eventually, found to be based on fluff you are already out of that – just design an even more opaque financial instrument and do it all over again. After all any “real” debts will be socialised and they have got off scot-free again.
More “things” (of value & useless depending on your viewpoint) are being created by mankind now than ever before. When you take your cds scheme fiat currency and turn it into houses in London or cures for cancer – you have already won.
Agreed.
‘Bust’ is part of the cycle of theft. It merely requires an alibi, such as trade wars, or actual wars.
Author and researcher, Wayne Jett, argues that contrary to what we are taught, that Roosevelt and the Fed together, did everything they could to DEEPEN and EXTEND the great depression (which the Fed itself engineered). Roosevelt raised taxes in every but one of his years office, wiped out savings by making the smaller banks hostage to new reserve ratio rules introduced suddenly, that forced them to call in good loans early and bankrupt them before in turn bankrupting themselves.
Money was removed from the economy every which way, till those on the inside, wink wink, bought land, assets and companies, for pennies on the dollar, while obliterating a large swathe of the middle class.
So back to today: Look at the insane valuations, and levels of debt. This is a well worn routine, but just once in a lifetime mind, and we are due it again. The bankers do not fear a collapse; they are orchestrating it. Maybe this march to WW3, along with the trade wars with China, will be the alibi.
We are ALL of us, being set up to be harvested, by the same old players. In that context, this Syria madness makes sense; just another bankster manouver.
It is true that the cost of the Federal Reserve to print 100 USD bill is only 20 cents, but the Feds controls the most part of the world gold, so it is very complicated to compete USD with another Hard Currency.
The Fed Has 6,200 Tons of Gold in a Manhattan Basement — Or Does it?
Eighty feet below the streets of lower Manhattan, a Federal Reserve vault protected by armed guards contains about 6,200 tons of gold. Read more at:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/the-fed-has-6200-tons-of-gold-in-a-manhattan-basement-or-does-it
The statutory price of gold is set by law. … Although the Federal Reserve does not own any gold, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York acts as the custodian of gold owned by account holders such as the U.S. government, foreign governments, other central banks, and official international organizations
There has been no US gold audit since the 1950’s.
It is a question of trust. Do you trust them? I have zero trust in them. All the gold is gone. The culprits are also long gone. They are probably still around, but are all likely dual citizens of you know where.
He is right.Stop the ‘our partners policy’.It is war.
Yakov Kedmi – Israeli Intelligence: It Will Be Either War by Military or War by Sanctions With US
https://youtu.be/ps9hRP1NyD4
And another one of these bombastic nuclear mushrooms rises …
Apocalyptic horses leave droppings, too.
What is the appeal of doom and gloom?
What may happen is limited by what is technically and humanly possible, which excludes so-called “nukes”, which are no science and all fiction, just a seven decades old Jewish bugaboo.
Uncle Sam, or let’s say Zio F/UK/US, may strike using the means at their disposal.
But there will be counterstrikes to Zio F/UK/US military assets, which they will not be able to defend against. The naval assets, in particular, are highly vulnerable.
Also, the strikes alone won’t change the situation on the ground.
I could be wrong, as I’ve been before, but I think the most likely outcome is … a negotiated solution … no big fireworks. What an anticlimax. We’ll all be horribly disappointed.
“What may happen is limited by what is technically and humanly possible, which excludes so-called “nukes”, which are no science and all fiction, just a seven decades old Jewish bugaboo.”
Even here, and on all other alt. media, the cognitive dissonance is overwhelming on that one, even though there is both psychical, theoretical and circumstantial evidence en masse to support it.
Kent
You keep claiming this but never offer any evidence.
Check out the self-appointed ‘Dark Lord’ AKA Vox Day’s moronic comment:
“Now, FFS, stop overreacting!
What did I tell you? What did I tell you, again? NEVER react to any statement, let alone tweet, by the God-Emperor, until at least two days have passed.
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Never said when an attack on Syria would take place. Could be very soon or not so soon at all! In any event, the United States, under my Administration, has done a great job of ridding the region of ISIS. Where is our “Thank you America?”
I’m getting more than a little tired of all the memory-impaired Chicken Littles freaking out every time the God-Emperor rattles his sabre, especially those of you who will promptly forget this latest incident and start running around proclaiming the sky is falling as soon as he tweets about military action in Iran or Uganda or wherever.
Try to recall that there is no inherent truth value in rhetoric and only an idiot makes a habit of openly declaring his every intended action to the vast collection of his enemies, foreign and domestic.”
The Germans have a saying, ” Don’t announce the revolution ahead of time”. Unless you’re not planning to have a revolution.
Its going to be a no fly zone set up thats why their stalling.
Their waiting for the carrier to arrive to provide air superiority.
The question will then be what will the Russians and Syrians do next? Is Russia really going to fight 200+ planes with a dozen aircraft?
Once this is done this will put huge pressure on Assad to go as they cant win without an airforce. Not to mention the US will be able to fire at will anytime it wants anywhere for the foreseeable future in Syria.
The Russians don’t have to fight 200 planes with a dozen aircraft. They can hide behind their missile defenses all they want. You have also forgot about the incredibly long range of Russian cruise missiles. They can hit anything in the eastern Med from over the Black Sea with ease. Even if Aegis anti-missile missiles could hit the hypersonic cruise missiles, the Russians would be operating from land bases with rail lines for re-supply. The carrier group cannot be re-supplied with such ease. There would be nothing stopping the Russians from launching barrages of cruise missiles at the carrier group till it was out of any munition capable of knocking down the Russian cruise missiles, and then it would game over. In short, the number of planes on each side is irrelevant, because of the missiles, and Russia has more of them in the immediate vicinity.
US cruise missile attacks against Syria have already taken place last year. Washington took pain to make sure that zero Russian serviceman would stand in harm’s way, for fear of the risk of escalation. Moreover, the attack was of symbolic scale.
There will most probably be a new similar small attack – with small participation by France, possibly Britain as a bonus. No serious consequence will ensue. That won’t change the Syrian government winning, and the civil war drawing to a close.
There is however a possibility that the US are actually planning a larger attack, which is the reason why it hasn’t been launched now: Washington might be waiting for the aircraft carrier USS Harry Truman to be in range, along with several hundreds more cruise missiles embarked in cruisers and destroyers. Such a large attack would have larger objectives than merely token “punishment” for chemical weapons “use”.
If the US chose to refuse their defeat and victory of Syria, they could knock the table over by defeating the Russian expeditionary corps in Syria, paving the way for an extended air campaign against Syria, prolongation of the war and a new chance for Islamist-Jihadist forces. That would be extraordinarily stupid to be sure – but it can’t be excluded.
Also, it could happen by accident. Even if Western forces take precaution to attack only Syrian not Russian forces, war is the territory of the unknown, and blunders do happen. I can’t see Russia tolerating dead Russian servicemen under Western bombs, even if only because of a blunder.
In case a Western-Russian war started in Syria, however:
1. The US would defeat Russia in Syria quite easily, the Russian expeditionary corps there is small and US losses would be relatively limited (*)
2. There would be no chance of nuclear escalation, Syria is way too small a stake
3. Russia would definitely exert reprisal, most probably in another place. Its objective would not be to save the Syrian regime, but to ensure America pays a serious price, so that nobody is tempted to make war on a Russian expeditionary corps again anytime soon. In short, Russia wouldn’t be fighting for Syria anymore, she would fight for herself.
However, Russian forces are not so big – the Soviet Union is no more – and the reprisal would have to be limited in scale. Possibilities might include:
– Neutralization of a US naval force including destruction of its aircraft carrier. Russia would need to concentrate its resources to manage that, but they would probably succeed
– Invasion of the South-Eastern half of Ukraine which would become a new separated State protected by Russia, like Northern Cyprus was invaded by Turkey in 1974 or Kosovo by NATO in 1999
– Withdrawal from NPT and sale of fully operational nuclear missiles to Iran
– Any other option… the Russian high command may very well be more creative than me!
4. After the Russian reprisal, things would probably quiet down, because everybody would know escalation is not an option. At worse, after a number of strikes, battles and counter-strikes, one of the parties (probably Russia) would send an ultimatum demanding immediate ceasefire threatening to use tactical nuclear weapons, and that threat would stop the war
No we are not on the verge of global nuclear war. We are at a very dangerous crossroads when ill-thought actions by amateurs (Trump, Bolton, Macron, May…) could result in Western forces meeting their first serious adversary in decades and Russian forces being tested to the breaking point.
(*) That’s just a fact:
– Not only are Russian aircraft only a few dozens, only a minority of them are modern types such as Su-30 or Su-34. They would be no match for the air group of a US aircraft carrier
– Russian air defense assets in Syria are real, but limited. Even if the S-400 is everything it has been touted to be and more, one thing is sure: the US could overwhelm it with hundreds of cruise missiles while S-400 missiles are not in the hundreds (those are definitely much more expensive than mere cruise missiles)!
– Russian troops and advisors are serious soldiers, but they are a few thousands, and their logistics could be interrupted once the US have established air dominance over Syria
– Russia has ships and probably submarines in the Mediterranean, but the US Navy is much larger than Russia’s
– Russia does have cruise missiles, launched from surface like Kalibr, or launched from bombers, meaning that US and Western forces in the Middle-East would suffer. They would have losses. But again, numbers count and Russia doesn’t have that many cruise missiles
“– Not only are Russian aircraft only a few dozens, only a minority of them are modern types such as Su-30 or Su-34. They would be no match for the air group of a US aircraft carrier”
But one hit on an aircraft carrier (KH-22) and all those planes are irrelevant. The US has not even claimed (other than the uninformed and deluded) to have something that could stop one of these. Never mind a dozen.
Or, a simple 10kT nuke-torpedo detonated under the carrier group. No more carrier group.
Aircraft carriers are simply too big and too vulnerable of a target in the modern theater. Floating coffins.
What will be interesting (as in ‘May you live in interesting times’) is what the US reaction to losing a carrier, or carrier group. Either they back off, or it goes full nuclear. Unfortunately, sane thinking left the US a long time ago, so, nice knowing you all.
Not dwelving too long, but:
– Kh-22 could take out a carrier only when used en masse, so as to overwhelm the carrier group’s air defenses (SM-3 missiles are quite able to intercept a Mach 4 missile)
– Russia doesn’t have that many Tu-22M and Tu-160 able to launch such a massive missile – again, Russian forces are much smaller than the Soviet Union’s used to be – therefore it’s questionable whether the volley would be large enough
That being said, when concentrating all its available attack means – including missiles launched by 949 Antey submarines – I think it very probable that Russia would succeed in taking out one aircraft carrier and its group. It’s just that I imagine such a thing – requiring large coordinated effort of Russian forces – more as a reprisal for the loss of the Russian expeditionary corps in Syria, if it came to that.
As for taking out a carrier with nuclear weapon, that is obviously quite feasible, but this wouldn’t be done except to defend Russian vital interests. And Syria is not, repeat not a vital interest for Russia.
One doesn’t have to sink a carrier to make it, and its flight wing, irrelevant. A barrage of many smaller, less expensive, and more easily launched cruise missiles could overwhelm the air defense system around the carrier and hit its flight deck. This would disable it and force it to return to port for repairs. I’m not an expert on the Russian missile arsenal but surely they have a missile like I describe above.
Hi,
Thanks for the response regarding Sm-3.
Remember the Gulf War when Patriots were reported as being 85% successful at hitting SCUDs? Years later it came out that it was ~5%. Typical of the US MIC. Make huge claims that the politicians accept blindly. Check has cleared by the time the claims are shown to be false.
Anyway, please look into the actual performance of these (Sm-3) in the real world. It ain’t too good. It also depends on the Aegis system actually functioning. *Khibiny* (Funny that the US sent the Donald Cook, the earlier Khibiny victim.)
Also, Russia has plenty of other systems, the KH-22 is merely one. Moskit (Sunburn) and a variety of others are available too.
Now Russians may be exaggerating their performance too, but history has shown that they usually underestimate whereas the US MIC consistently over-promises and under-delivers.
Google maps very kindly displays the network of Power Stations across Europe.
With the aid of some schoolboy mathematics its possible to calculate which stations
are logistical nodes in the supply chain of Electricity across the entirety of the western
european continent.
I did the maths, its actually twenty five stations variously situated in France, Poland, Italy, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania Romania Hungary Spain and the UK
Their destruction with a simple cruise missile assault would overload the entire network and plunge Europe into darkness, and not just for twenty four hours either, but for at least two years!
Google maps very kindly displays the water supply and purification reservoirs for all the principle cities of Europe. For example we see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_Londonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_London
seventy percent of London’s water supply clearly indicated where some accurate cruise missile strikes would deprive the city of fresh water in short order.
Now imagine London, Paris, Berlin or Warsaw in total darkness and their respective water supplies destroyed. And if your feeling creative, a few tactical strikes on key road and rail networks and shipping Ports and you have cut off their food supplies and well.
Europe without electricity, food and water will turn its population into a rabid blood thirsty rampage of savages where neighbours will slaughter neighbours for a bottle of water or a loaf of bread.
Governments will have to divert precious military resources just to prevent the complete collapse of society.
Who needs nukes when you have google maps.
You have a lot of imagination.
You like to imagine what kind of damage could Russia do in Western Europe. You don’t go as far as to imagine what Western European reprisal would be. In short, you like to make plans with Russian forces like little pawns in your mind, but you do not worry about the consequences… since – correct me if I’m wrong – you are not Russian.
If Russians and Western Europeans destroyed each other’s power, or water or road networks, the only victors would be Jihadists, who fester on chaos.
In a war at the level of sovereign actors civil infrastructure is always the first target.
The Israelis did this in Lebanon many times, the Americans in Iraq.
Its not a case of ‘imagine what they will do in return’ its a case ‘this is what we must to to survive’
Of course there will be reprisals but to imagine Russia being on the receiving end of a military action from
Nato or the U.S and for Putin to sit down and instruct his Generals ‘don’t hit their water, electricity or food supplies because we don’t want to offend them’ is puerile naivety.
“In a war at the level of sovereign actors civil infrastructure is always the first target.”
No, that’s only true when there is sufficient imbalance that one side can be sure his attacking of the enemy’s civilian infrastructure won’t prompt similar reprisals on HIS civilian infrastructure.
No fight between Western Europeans and Russians would be so imbalanced.
Even if fighting did break out between US or Europeans and Russians – it’s a clear risk, but not a certainty – Syria is seen the same when looked from Washington, Moscow, Paris or London.
It’s seen as a foreign country.
I see no mention of Russia in his post, that is purely speculation on your part.Above mentioned plan can easily be carried out by Iran if they wanted to.And if simple bombs(planted by Jihadists) are used instead of cruise missiles then quite a few nations/groups in the middle east can carry it out.Maybe Western Europeans should worry more about reprisal against them for their actions in Arab/Muslim lands and elsewhere?
No mention of Russia? But who else could attack European countries with significant number of cruise missiles? :-)
Iran has no cruise missiles with enough range. And Jihadists are too few, too poorly organized and too chased by police to be able to organize such a plan.
In a recent spat with Europe an Iranian general claimed they could easily increase the range of their missiles to reach all major European cities.And of course what we know of the weapons Iran and other nations in the region possess is what they tell to the public.
“Easily”, eh? :-)
Yes, I’m sure they can. It will not be difficult!
what, if they proclaimed a war and nobody turned up?…if a properly run poll was conducted in the west and east ,what would be the result of the poll?….i do not think the NORMAL peeps in the US or Russia will want a war,even the european and asians are not even paying attention.
The ordinary guy wants a roof over his a head, a neat car ,some fun,sex,some friends or family ,go to the pub ,watch a movie or play xbox get sleep and repeat ,who the hell wants war?The majority does not want war period.
The only ones who want war, are the politicians of all shades and colour,all military men who thing it is brave to kill peeps{listen to POMEOA],just yesterday in the confirmation hearing.Religious psychopaths who want damascus or jerusalem toasted depending on which book they hold dear to,and some other colours of tribalistic mad ones….These dudes hold the power cause that is how they want it ,they dreamed for this ,this is their goal in life but the fact is they are not the MAJORITY.{sorry mod}….so i propose the majority tell this idiots we the majority have decided since we are the majority…”get off this planet” go fight ,go to heaven,be brave …and don’t comeback.
In the west, what ordinary people want doesn’t matter a hill of beans to the ruling elites.
The one thing that has been shown by the Trump win of the Presidency is that what the government does not do what the people want.
If what ordinary people wanted mattered, then the American people would have access to humane health care under a national-health-insurance/medicare-for-all type of plan. This successfully polls at around 60% when asked in a non-rigged poll question.
I feel that if Russia is forced to retaliate for an attack on Syria by the West Russia should take out an entire USTaskforce. There is no sense in sinking only one ship.
The West will make any retaliation look like Pearl Harbor 2 anyway. If Russia retaliates she might as well do it in a big and definite way and at the very least wake the people of the West up to the fact that this is a real war with real consequences.
Maybe, just maybe that will put the so called leaders of the West under enough pressure to answer for their lies which may lead to their demise. If they can be removed maybe people with saner cooler heads might prevail.
Warnings of “grave consequences”… yup…peoples will go to the grave. Simples.
oh, wait, how come it didn’t fall on my mind, they will attack symbolically, as the revelation is written symbolically and stupid me cannot defragment the text…
(to myself) no, stupido, The Antichrist Wrote The Revelation, making up Armageddon, and now is the time for paying the price because you so called christian didn’t care, you slept over … you’ll never wake up, simply because the death will be faster – go, thank today’s church fathers because the hell on the earth, go thank trump, you know with what, …
one lousy empire and all of a sudden whole world has to pay – looks like I stupido lost myself on earth
The Antichrist Wrote The Revelation http://therevelator.freeblog.site/ and that is the main reason they are gattering in syria, oil/gas is just an alibi, serving satan is their drive
Lets imagine for a minute that there was only Russia on Earth. What would we see. A huge vast country. With immense resources. Able to feed its population without a problem. Maybe a few tropical foods wouldn’t be available.But no one would be hungry. And the country has the technology to clothe,house,and provide medical care for its population. An educated population. With the skills to provide a modern lifestyle for her people.Russia is not a backward third world state.If the “West” was to cut off all trade with Russia,what would that mean.Who would suffer? The wealthy elites connected to globalism might suffer a lot. But the average Russian after a short period wouldn’t miss it at all.
That is of course only if Russia was alone. But Russia “isn’t alone”. She has an Eastern neighbor,who has the largest economy on Earth (by GDP PPP). There is literally almost nothing that Russia “might” have needed from the West that she can’t get from China.As well as China is in need of many of the resources that Russia can easily supply her.So while a cutoff in trade with the West would affect the Russian elites that deal most with the West. For Russia herself,the people and the state. She probably alone among nations is most able to withstand any and all sanctions the West attacks her with.
We are so used to seeing things from Western eyes that we miss a few points. Russia today is the 9th largest country by population (1st in land size). And of those 9 countries only 3 surpass her in GDP PPP ( China,the US,and India). In all the countries of the world,regardless of population, Russia competes with economic powerhouse Germany for 5th place in GDP PPP. And in military power Russia is acknowledged as number 2. I would argue that in some sectors she should be number 1. Under no circumstances is Russia a weak state for the West to attack.
I’ve seen a few articles lately that things are about to change inside Russia. That Putin,whether by choice,or necessity has decided to make important political changes. That the days of appeasing the West are coming to an end.That more resistance minded officials will be appointed. And the economy will move into much more of a nationalistic stance.I don’t know if that is true. But if so it is a very good move.With a nation such as Russia. There is no reason they such ever be dependent on outside forces that hate her and long to destroy her. So I look forward to the new restructuring taking place.
UB (Diadia Vania), You said it man. I second that.
Allegedly the US has asked the Russians for the location of all their troops in Syria, and Russia has refused to comply, so the US is holding off an attack on Syria until it estanblishes how to attack Syria without hitting Russian troops, hence the delay or lull we see now.
Gosh….just as stupid as Macron saying sorry in advance just in case they hit any Russians but do not blame us as you did not give us the information……..if that is the level of intelligence Russia is dealing with in the military hotlines….ye gods….there is no hope.
I very much appreciate the sort and severity of question that this essay poses. However, it reflects the sort of blinkered view that I detect from the Russian government, itself. There appears to be no thought as to how to reach the American public. Neither is there any suggestion of the desirability of stimulating anti-war ACTION by the American public. Neither is there any suggestion of methodology for stimulating anti-war ACTION by the American public, after means of communication is determined.
At least, as regards this essay, that is how I read
“That kind of nonsense is just “mental prolefeed” for the mentally deficient, politically blinded or otherwise zombified ideological drones who, from the Maine, to the Gulf of Tonkin, to NATO’s Gladio bombing of the Bologna train-station, to the best and greatest of them all – 9/11 of course – will just believe anything “their” (as they believe) side tells them. ”
So, my questions for the Saker is: do you think changing American public opinion is worth the effort, or are we – in your view – hopelessly “zombified”?
Secondly, if we are not completely “zombified”, then what suggestions do you have to stir Americans to ACTIONS to change the course of events?
Please note that the a significant number of right wing media types, without whom I don’t think Trump would be President, have not supported this latest lunacy by Trump. Specifically, Alex Jones of infowars (who openly called Douma “chemical attack” a false flag), Michael Savage, and Tucker Carlson.
So, there are 3 examples of influencers who are not “zombified” – amongst the people they influence, there are millions. It is self evidently true that “zombification” is not monolithic, or incapable of being resisted.
Unfortunately, you seem as devoid of ideas for de-zombifying the American public as the Russian government.
I recently wrote of a no-brainer that would – barring censoring from Twitter – allow Putin to reach millions of Americans, every day. Both pro- and anti- Trump Americans.
/trump-tries-to-tweet-russia-into-submission/#comment-509044
Another idea leaps out: There are 1 million Russian Americans. Can they not arrange a speaking and debating tour by Sergei Lavrov? Yeah, I know that in an ideal world, he would be performing his #1 job of being Russia’s top diplomat, but faced with the prospect of a NUCLEAR WAR, I think he could show enough flexibility to delegate to his reports. Last I heard, he’s looking to retire, anyway, so ending his diplomatic duties is on his radar.
A suggestion for billing for such events: “The Soviet Union was a US ally during WW2, suffering a loss of about 20 soldiers for every US soldier. Why are former allies currently at risk for a nuclear confrontation?”
The question you ask is very good. The answer is less impressive. Some outside-the-box thinking would improve the answer.
surely if Russia believes war with the USA is inevitable it must threaten to sink US warships before their missiles come within range of Syria? Then actually sink them if they continue to advance.
That’s the mistake that the zionists want Russia to make. ‘Let’s you and him fight.’ Pearl Harbour 2.
The AZE is following a purely satanic agenda — the secular trappings are to distract deluded liberals and commies. Behind it all is the quest for the supremacy over the gentiles as promised in the Talmud and the Old Testament. That’s the dark spiritualism of the Empire. That’s why Christians were annihilated in the so-called revolutions in France, Russia, Spain etc etc etc
“Due to geographical, historical, cultural, religious and military factors, Russia is today the objective leader of the worldwide resistance to Empire, at least in moral, psychological and political terms.”
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I’m sorry Saker, but it’s more than that. It’s the dream of the oppressed and the still to be oppressed as well. Russia is the objective leaders of the worldwide resistance to the Empire because the President of the Russian Federation stood in the UN and told that Empire : “We will stop you.”
Now you might tell me that is not what he said but I will tell you – that is what we heard.
Just a small comment regarding this “Second, once the Russians are in Novorussia, they will “own it”, meaning that they will have to carry the huge financial burden of rebuilding it.” No, that would not be any kind of huge cost at all. The effect would only be like stimulation of the economy. Crimea which earlier was the scare has cost some max 10 billion a year and that’s with all the grand infrastrcuture projects. For those who don’t understand macroeconimcs, that’s a very insiginificant amount of money. Present Donetsk and Lugansk would not require more than that. The whole of Novorossia max. 15 billion more. Which all come back in form of economic stimulus. Besides Russia does not need to give Russian standards of living to them right away, especially not in time of war.
One way to nip this very plausible scenario in the bud is for the Russian ambassador to the UN to give the UNSC a list of the cities that Russia will nuke if there is any attack on Syria.
Which American and British politicians would be the first to say “I think we should call their bluff”? Bolton and Johnson, in my view.
Assad had no reason to use gas. The Islamic extremist rebels had every reason to use gas.
http://www.fort-russ.com
Is down.
Yes, “403 – Forbidden”
Thats what I received as well. Forbidden!!, of all things to say to me.
Site is back up. though its been sketchy this whole week.k
” I ever seen any model which would convincingly explain how such a de-escalation could happen ”
I think the way this could happen is if the U.S. public en masse tells Washington: “No!” I don’t want to find out if this is correct.
Excessive doom laden comment. Some points, but it’s a bit unbalanced.
You’re just looking at numbers here Saker, but they are pretty meaningless without a few other factors.
Firstly, all a big Navy flotilla is now just a good target. Aircraft carriers can be taken out with one or two Kalibrs.
But there’s another factor, and that is the quality of American “numbers”. From all I read, so much of American military hardware is falling to pieces. They have a latest model fighter plane which is more trouble than it’s worth. The worst, however, are the “men”. AFter years of feminization, “pink high heels”, they are less a fighting force than a pretence of one. The American Army has had to reduce the fitness level for new recruits, as there are so few fit young men left in the country– just as it has had to reduce the level of literacy and training. So far they had 4 ships running into massive container cargo carriers and ….. rocks. It’s not much a fearsome fighting force when it cant recognise these. I had a letter from a man who had been serving in the American Navy, telling me of kids getting minimum “on the job” training, who couldn’t be trusted to paddle a canoe, much less being left in critical positions as they were.
Add to this something known and understood since the crusades – a man fighting to protect his home, on his own soil, fights harder and better than an invader on foreign soil. America fighting in the Middle East and at Russia’s borders has a major logistical problem getting back up and supplies to the front – and via or through and increasingly hostile Europe [Note neither Germany nor Italy will support any American strike on Syria, no troops nor any other support will be supplied].
Finally, Putin has said “Never again will Russia fight to defend herself on her own soil”. Those new missiles he demonstrated can hit America – and they are designed to do so. At the first hint of severe aggression, I suspect all the cover Russia has – and it’s a lot – will go to full on, and Sarmats will be lobbied down the East Coast, talking out just about the entire country.
It’s hard to maintain a fight overseas, when your home base is gone.
So – I think there may be more to be considered here than just weighing the numbers on either side, and the likely alliances. They do carry weight – but there’s more to be considered.
I still think Russia would win from her own abilities and determination and people and their heart and soul, not only because of American failing Empire stupidity.
You do not need to be too physical nor have much training just to press a few buttons to send missiles….only brain washed and disciplined to follow orders no matter what.
Despite what Merkel says….. USA Ramstein will still be operating…and vulnerable.
You still, at the end of the day, have to have boots on the ground. It’s been long known that you can’t take a country with air power alone. Even here Russia is superioreally – she has more skilled intelligent men. But it’s on the ground where a country is won or lost – and no-one will take Russia there. Never have and never will.
Here in the UK we have a Classical Music station which the people vote for there favorite piece with the chart of 300 all played over Easter, now i hope people noticed but the winner this year was as i put it ” do not screw with Russia ” yes the 1812 overture by Tchaikovsky ,yes one rousing piece with bells of Moscow ringing while the evil Napoleon trudges back to France well beaten (think of Macron ) i could say more about the arts both music and literature ect , but no it is the west that thinks it is the best ,
A great description by Saker of where Germany stood in 1941. Since 1933 the Anglozionists had conducted an economic war against her. In fact, a complete embargo of all German products and exports was declared upon Hitler winning the elections of 1933. Germany, without gold, had also been completely cut off from the Anglo-zionist usury money machine, unlike Russia today.
All those little struggling fragments of Zionist shattered empires strewn about all around Germany were teetering on collapse, just as now in the ex-CIS, due to Zio-banking. Slovakia had sided with the Germans against the artificial construct of Czechoslovakia which had doomed them to a slow genocidal purge like the Hungarians and Sudetans, but Slovakia was no more a loyal partner to the German resistance to Zionism than Belorussia is today.
There was the German rescue of Danzig that is so similar to the Russian rescue of Crimea. Hitler proceeded to take all of Poland when the ango-zio empire declared war on Germany. Putin failed to secure Ukraine from the anglo-zionists. To Hitler’s demise, he didn’t have the strategic depth of Russia, and couldn’t allow the anglo-zionists to use Poland against him.
Then we have Stalin’s incredible hordes of offensive tanks (24,000 vs 8000 German) of which the vast majority were heavier armored, heavier gunned, faster, and many were even amphibious to cross the rivers of Poland and Germany. The Germans were hopelessly out gunned and out numbered by the Soviets and their Anlgo-zionist allies, yet they prevailed.
Even these fake chemical weapons attacks in Syria have their parallels in ’40’s battles for the destruction of Germany and Russi, namely Gleiwitz and the vom Rath murder (Kristalnacht), both of which were Anglo-zionist false flags and war provocations.
Unfortunately, so many like Saker still buy the wikipedia version of WWII hook, line and sinker.
While you, by contrast, prefer slandering Stalin and the USSR that he led — incredibly original for a Western piece of opinion; hats off.
“Sure, there would be losses on both sides, the Russians would fight heroically, but they would lose. Unless, of course, they got help from the Motherland…”
And this is the point, isn’t it. It’s not all about numbers, it’s about access to the fight, and it’s about morale of the soldiery, and the support of the domestic population. When the US takes those losses, what stomach for the war then?
In America, and in Britain and Germany, and in all the vassal states, there are religious and patriotic men and women fighting the empire from within. Russia does have not a monopoly on strength and righteousness. The same faith and determination which motivates Russians also leads people to stand against their own nations in the hope that they will return to a path of freedom and justice. I understand the history of my own Christian Europe, and I recognise its many sins, but I will not condemn it. There have always been a small number of people with noble aims working to educate a much less enlightened majority. The current situation might be a bit more extreme than in the past but it is the same old struggle.
The twitter dimplomacy of Trump, is completely non-sensical. We know, vis a vis his 2013 tweets, that he’s aware of the dangers of war in Syria, fabrication of evidence etc. Yet, he fired 60 odd missiles into an empty airfield “for the children”, same this time round.
Then, the current timeline, as I understand:
-> 2/3 weeks ago, he’s pulling out of Syria (very soon), this completely out of thin air and against narrative (why?)
-> the chemical false flag
-> hysteria, brink of war – the missile coming at you fast/smart was psychotic
-> next day pull back, congressional hearings, Mattis has no evidence of chem attacks.
Unless they are all actually totally lunatic, the only scenario that makes sense to me is Trump feigned pulling out of Syria to precipitate the false flag and catch traitors in the act.
If you were a real patriot faced with a layers of corruption at every level and 100% media collusion how could you deal with it? Play the fool, Claudius style, and have them all underestimate you (again), and then catch them with their hands in the cookie jar, i.e. the planning and activation of a false flag. This then, gives you the evidence of the gravest imaginable crimes on which to proceed.
If the latest Russian evidence of no victims in hospitals is true, then the botching of this attack and the Scripal nonsense, defies credulity; May/Johnson have been diminished massively and could easily lose their jobs – was that also a setup? Also, Bolton? Feed him info that can be traced to the perpetrators – could explain that hiring.
I’m praying for sanity in there somewhere.
Russian Ambassador to uk holding press conference bravely attempting to call out usa and uk white helmets and usa supported american medical group in Syria as provocateurs of so called Gouta attack…live on RT….
I think this is a big litmus test…if usa etc does not accept these evidences by Russia regarding white helmets and Syrian American medical society…..and by logic the implication of their funding and support of these illicit groups…..then all bets are off regarding further action- being heavily dependant on OPCW inspection on Saturday though usa says it has the right of preemptive action not going through UN……all or nothing now maybe…..
…..because usa and”friends” still believes in its exceptionalism to support such organisations and its hegemonic ambitions….western press refuses to pass on and even acknowledge direct evidences only suppositions….and the mantra Assad is guilty…Russia is guilty…there is a need for action against both…..
Russians have to shift the focus of the conflict to the European continent by combating some of NATO’s targets in eastern Europe that violate global strategic stability. it will undo the American choice of Syria as a battlefield where they think to destroy Russia. it is only choice to avoid big war. nobody in Washington or London will cry for romanian or baltic states targets. as long as the war is “there somewhere far away” no one gets excited. When war is in front of the door then is another story. because of the South Korea Trump did not anything against the North Korean in combat sense. so. because of the European stability it will not do anything against the Russia in terms of combat activity against RF. nor EU has bal*s to do anything except barking and sanctions ,etc…
Yesterday I read this comment in MoA (regarding Trumps apparent backing-off) and I was wondering if someone has evaluated the likeliness of this scenario:
“I think you missed the point. I don’t think Trump blinked. Trump said he wanted troops out in six months. The deep state and Israel went wild. Then comes the fake chem attack and they are all howling at the moon to attack Asaad. Trump wants out not in deeper so he raises the ante. If we are going to attack, we are going to go BIG. He knows Russia will have to respond. The deep state hacks don’t mind killing other people, but they don’t want to die, so the chickenhawks chicken out. Trump ran on ending the wars. He said a couple of weeks ago he wanted out of Syria in six months. The person with the widest range of behavioral strategies is typically going to prevail in any encounter. That is basic NLP. Trump has no problem making an ass of himself in public in negotiation. That is why the politicians can’t stand him. I think he won this round. They will have to impeach or kill him to win. ”
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/syria-threat-of-large-war-recedes-but-may-come-back.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b8d2ea6c78970c
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804131063506853-us-russia-relations/
USA will not withdraw from Syria…..
As Salam Wa Alekum,
That was an enjoyable read Saker. Thank you for quoting the Quran. In the end we have God Almighty on our side, so we need not worry too much. Allah (God) will knock them off their high horse, as is happening today, those who sow discord among humanity on earth.
About the Donbass, you know, the peoples militias were having a very hard time against the Ukie’s , that is until the Russian MoD sent Mr. Khadyrov’s, of the Chechen Republic of the Russian Federation, troops to the Donbass. Once there , the highly experienced Chechens organized the Donbass militias, brought with them sophisticated weapons and tactics, especially lightning maneuverability very much like Hezbollah or the SAA Tiger Forces.
Once the Chechen shock troops showed up, it was a turkey shoot. Donetsk airport was unconquerable, no matter what the Ukie’s tried, and the Chechens deployed a couple of envelopment, and flanking maneuvers on the Ukrainian armored divisions at various times including Debaletsevo.
These Chechens are nothing to play around with, and should the Empire and Kiev make a move, the Chechens should be brought back where they will not let Russia down. They are among the best of the best in warfare anywhere on the globe. As resilient as the Taliban, Houthis and Hezbollah, the Chechens can handle the Ukie’s . Just give them the arms.
These same Chechens I mentioned are also in Syria now, as military police in Aleppo, and now East Ghouta and a few other locals in Syria. There is rumor they are also embedded with the SAA’s Tiger Forces as shock troops. Interesting, but there is a battalion of Chinese special forces in Syria, I wonder what they are doing, and whether they are seeing combat.
Russia, is given a divine duty I believe from the Almighty, to correct the injustice in the world. It is a noble cause and Russia need not be afraid. You supply the weaponry, cover the skies( Electronic warfare systems, ground to air systems, man-pads, general air defense) and the Shia Crescent will supply the troops. The boots on the ground. Sunni’s too will join on your side, as wahabbi’sm is so passe, and has and is losing its luster in the Islamic world. The SAA, Hezbollah, Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units(who answer directly to Khamenei), Houthi’s , IRGC all have years of hardcore combat experience and have been distilled down to the best fighting forces on the planet. There is no way any western power can match them, even at 5 : 1 odds. And the entire region has a pool of millions of youth to pull from. Iran itself could muster say 5 million men under arms.
Israel is in a big time bind. they see the writing on the wall, they know they are in big trouble. The Zionist project was its own enemy. The latest attack on the T-4 Syrian airbase that killed 7 Iranian military advisors only served to make the Shia more enraged than ever. Thye want a chance to strike, and strike hard, and that’s exactly what they will do.
Anyways, great article.
Excellent and profound analysis. I know I have read that all wars are essentially religious wars. And the long war waged first upon Contantinople, and then upon Moscow, for the past many hundred years by the “West” is certainly a religious war as well. Russia, Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah can rightly say: “If God be for us, who can stand against us”? Praise God. …… And pass the ammunition.
The UK, already a decadent power, triggered two World Wars just to try to keep the illusion of being the lone superpower alive. We already know the human and material costs of that.
I hope that, in a world of nuclear weapons, the USA be more gracious, and bow down more peacefully.
So, in the alternate universe that you came from “the UK triggered two world wars.” How very odd. But still you don’t seem surprised by what’s happened in this universe. Thus, your alternate universe where the UK triggered two world wars must reach a very similar state today as in this universe where Germany triggered two world wars. Interesting.
It is fascinating how people from so many different universes with so many different histories can all come together in this place and talk and meet. I truly find a lot of strange versions of history here that can only be explained by people coming from alternate universes. Thank you Mr. The Saker for providing the place where we can all cross over between universes and converse.
it seems that the touted “new and smart” missiles from Trump are not found during the search and prompting him to backtrack and retwitted ” I did not say WHEN?”
they are still looking into their stockpile but all they could find are “old and dumb” ones.
My Lord
I’ll I really want to know is….
Are US little uk and tiny France waiting for uss Truman….
The time is very late now. Any moment missiles may be launched into Syria by the unstable American Empire.
Russia’s back is against the wall. I don’t think Russia can accept the destruction of Syria. They are aware that Iran, and then Russia would fall next. Russia needs to make it clear in it’s response to the coming missile attack, that it is drawing the line right now, right here in Syria. If the Empire is determined to destroy Russia, this is the time and place to counter it. Putin has done his best to avoid open war, but now is the time to stand firm and fight for Mother Russia.
And if a war limited to conventional weapons takes place, Russia should make it clear that no part of the Empire, including Europe, and the US Mainland will be spared in the fight. If the war goes nuclear, which is highly probable, then no one will be spared.
All foreign bases in Syria and Iraq will probably become targets of the locals. That will leave tens of thousands of US troops isolated and under siege.
The empire is powerful but is spread very thin. The US is very worried that is a shooting war with Russia gets going in a big way that China will take Taiwan. The US no longer has the ability to do more than one front at a time.
Beautiful essay.
I think there is a mistake though. Doesn’t Saker actually inquire as to the cost of of defeating the Empire?
That is not the same thing as the cost of the collapse. This is very significant. Defeat is one cost. The collapse is going to cost again.
Why is that? Because when Empire is defeated the mainland seat of the retreat falls into civil war and revolution. This is what History shows and logic reveals… Now then, considering all the dangers of such a miserable situation in the US (and maybe London/UK/(and Israel) would create – dangers of weapons and chemicals and atomic materials, melt-downs of all sorts and unthinkable evils – considering all that, what would China, Russia, who who knows who, be obliged to do. Obliged for their own safety, to do? If nothing, there will be costs. If something, less cost and some control over events…and the moral pathway, too.
Saker inquires as to the cost of defeating Empire. Of course this must be paid, so it shall be.
The cost of the Collapse is liable to be greater still.
I agree. The Empire has to fight because the home front has been abandoned. Without foreign tribute the Imperial Cities can’t survive on the taxes collected within it’s own provinces.
In actual fact the entire history of the anglosaxons in America has been a series of secret and not so secret intrigues between factions and foreign forces, usually states. More recently the OSS was built on advice and under control of MI6. In the run up to WW1 Wilson was manipulated by Room 40 through some 80 British agents in the US,,,and the Black Tom job….a SBALIT intelop. (stand back and let it happen)
I have to admire the trade-craft of MI6, creating Zionism as a tool to control the US. Brilliant! And if it goes wrong? Right, blame the Jews… Just incredible!
In the US there’s stuff enough in most cities for 3 or 4 days… You tell me what happens.
Empire is in a zuswang trap of it’s own making, Wth a clown king to become pharmacos… How humiliating a way to end.
Re.: Cundalini at 5:02 UTC (googling) and the main article. As for googling for targets consider the case of Norway: that country has 50+ hydropower facilities spread over its mountains and valleys. They even display this on their own website. One can also google them. These are potential targets because Norway is host to the US Army Prepositioned stocks at Bjugn, Tromsdalen and Frigard, all in the Troendelag, where Norway also hosts the F35 no-flyers (at Oerland Airport), a US expeditionary marine Corps (at Vaernes Airport), while Norway also hosts an F16 contingent at Bodoe Airport to be supplemented with 6 new Poseidon reconnaissance aircraft, and then there are some caves with unknown content at Andenes peninsula and there is at the gate of Barents Sea Vardoe’s powerful radar installation, so powerful that Vardoe citizens complain they cannot use their mobiles or watch television (which is a blessing because NRK is the worst state broadcaster by any measure in the entire world, except perhaps for SA).
Amidst all speculation about scenarios in Saker’s note and the comments (speculation not meant in a negative sense), I still feel the Baltic and the Nordic area is overlooked and China is the wild card. Re.: https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/04/13/china-could-be-the-wild-card-if-us-attacks-syria.html
Okay, Syria is important for China as a node in the OBOR/BRI scheme, China has assets to defend there. Like Russia. The question is, should they focus their response in Syria (where they risk being overwhelmed) or look for the option of diversion; diversion by China in the South China Sea, where it may seize the opportunity to ‘solve’ the Taiwan issue once and for all, build more bases on artificial and friendly islands, build up PLAN capabilities. Russia can divert to the Baltic, to safeguard North Stream, Kaliningrad and eventually the Northern Sea Route in the Arctic.
Coordination between Russia and China for a simultaneous implementation of these options would stretch Empire’s capabilities, while it would be vainly bombing some deserted SAA assets in the desert.
Putin’s speech in March unveiling their new delivery systems for conventional or nuclear weapons, convinced the realists in the US War Department that a nuclear first strike on Russia was not feasible. On the other hand, this also made it clear that conventional US military power in the world is at it’s zenith right now, but it is also in decline. Time is on the side of Russia and China in this regard. This makes the option of an all out conventional war against Russia, and soon, seem attractive. Even if such a war did not result in the invasion and total defeat of Russia, it might weaken them enough to make them irrelevant.
What is happening today with regard to Syria represents the Empire testing if they can bait Russia into a protracted conventional war. Russia must make it clear that it is not going to permit this to go forward, and that the “foreplay” of limited missile strikes is going to be cut short by vigorous responses from their side. This is the time to make it clear that Russia refuses to be drawn into a protracted conventional war in Syria. She needs to deliver a strong and convincing slap to the world bully, just as soon as this unprovoked aggression is initiated by the US.
Seems like some angst about China and Russia wrt Syria, even from Mr Saker himself.
1. The Western cabal already knows which way the Chinese cookie will crumble: in favour of Russia.
No need to rise to the bait at UNSC. A veto together with Moscow would draw clear ” us vs them” Cold War lines that leave little room for fence sitters or diplomacy and avoid catastrophe.
Even now, Zakharova is talking about communication to resolve the potential crisis.
2. The statement by the Chinese general during his Russian trip already speaks for itself. He has certainly not been publicly chastised for speaking out of line.
3. When Donald Trump dropped the bombshell on the Chinese leader during dinner – that Washington had launched missiles on Syria – his intention was to take a measure of the man.
President Xi barely flinched. The
American act of aggression was, after all, America ‘s problem, and nothing to do with China.
The point is – China won’t react to provocations. It acts when time comes to act.
This is similar to President Putin attitude.
Both leaders have been shaped by the hardships of their postwar societies, and firsthand accounts of the horrors of war from their parents.
They say what they mean, and mean what they say.
Donald Trump, for all his buffoonery and Twitter diva-ness, is a smart man and knows what he is dealing with.
4. Strategic patience is pretty much in the DNA of Chinese leadership.
In his excellent Forgotten Ally, author Rana Mitter points out that Chiang Kai Shek, after years of bobbing and dodging, decided after the Marco Polo bridge incident 1937, that time had come for China – poor, weak and backward – to ‘ fight to the end ‘ against ruthless and technologically advanced Japan.
A rallying call that has come back as China again marshals its forces to fight containment under the fig leaf of trade war.
5. On a final note: in the Chinese zodiac, Trump is a Dog and Putin, a Dragon.
These signs are born hostile to each other, especially in this Dog year, when both are in conflict with the ruling Lord Jupiter.
Annus horribilis, indeed.
God bless Russia.
One other possibility is that Trump puts congress and the generals on the spot. All he would have to do is to say that there is no authorisation currently in place that would allow for war on Syria (true) and congress needs to vote on it. Tell the generals to prepare a briefing for congress.
With a formal declaration of war against Syria on the table and congressional elections this fall how many will vote for a hugely unpopular war? Would the neo-con generals be able to fudge enough evidence to sway congress? Would they admit as they did previously that even a no fly zone over Syria means war with Russia?
It would create cover for himself and enjoyment watching all the neo-cons lying and congress squirming. At the least it would delay action until it becomes a moot point.
If he does that then he obviously doesn’t want war. If he just attacks then he is a totally owned sell out.
This just gets better and better, (i jest), apparently British ‘intelligence’ services have just made the diabolical discovery that the Russian GRU have had both the Skripal’s under surveillance for FIVE YEARS.
Additionally…..
The British copy of Russian secret services Assassination Manual, (otherwise known by it’s working title of “How to totally bodge an assassination and ensure your enemies know it was you”), contains a section on how to kill someone by door knob.
I’m so sorry but i just can’t help laughing, i know I shouldn’t, but really do the MSM and governments think we are all that stupid as to buy this this, continuing farce of a narrative. It seems they are hell bent on making there war happen this time, if it wasn’t all likely to end in a blinding flash and total total destruction, it would be worthy of the big screen, a bucket of popcorn an a bottle or two of good alcohol (of your choosing, a Vodka, ‘of a type developed by Russia perhaps’?
Response to US sanctions….
Russia nationalizing US trademarks and associated US commerce assets in Russia, giving them the right to use McDonalds, Starbucks, of any organization under US jurisdiction as a Russian owned entity as though it were the US owned entity without regard or attribution to the parent organization or US treasury. It would also deny the right of owners to sell out, or privatize (transfer the risk to locals) to deny them the ability to recoup their capital investment.
http://www.pravdareport.com/news/russia/economics/13-04-2018/140720-russia_usa_response-0/
And in wake of Russias decision to restrict export of titanium as part of its response, Boeing and Lockheed production may be hobbled until they can come up with an alternate supply, or a substitute for Russian titanium. Said production would be needed to replenish lost military assets.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-13/boeing-faces-backlash-russia-may-halt-titanium-exports-plane-maker
Interestingly, a related search result turned up the fact that Boeing has a titanium related plant in the Urals inside Russia. This could not play out well for Boeing because of the first point made in this post.
The point in Russia throwing down the gauntlet right now, is that the Empire is planning to gradually escalate it’s strikes and provocations anyway. Russia needs to say to the bully, “If we are going to fight, let’s get it on right now!” Meet their annoying missile slap with a hard punch in the face.
Sometimes a clear and forceful response is the best way to deter all out war. Strike a blow for peace by countering the bully in no equivocal way – make the return message impossible to misunderstand. Don’t be a Chamberlain.
Sometimes a clear and forceful response is the best way to deter all out war. Strike a blow for peace by countering the bully in no equivocal way – may the return message impossible to misunderstand. Don’t be a Chamberlain.
I don’t watch much TV. When I do I always irritated by the obvious falsehoods of the commercials. But for most Americans this is part of their bloodstream. To me this is why they ignore and/or apathetic to the government and MSMs equally obvious, but far less entertaining lies.
The public’s passiveness is both an asset and a potential liability for the warfare state, allowing them to conduct all these small wars everywhere as long as the body count of volunteers isn’t great. But in a major war with Russia, I have no idea what the public reaction would be, because nobody talks about or has much interest in what’s really going on anymore.
If a war goes nuclear then it doesn’t matter what people think.
In a conventional war, after a few weeks almost all the long-range standoff weapons will be gone, and a lengthy slow grind of essentially continental siege warfare will begin. Russia is made to win this kind of conflict. Even if the US gains air superiority over Russia (I doubt it) they will eventually run out of munitions. Within six months, without Russian and Iranian, and perhaps the entire MEs, energy exports, the global economy will collapse. This is simply a problem that they can’t print their way out of.
So winning WWIII would come down it the grit and determination of a western public that has up to now been kept in a state of blissful ignorance and apathy. I don’t think resorting to totalitarianism can be a real substitute for genuine support, because the state will have only limited resources to throw around.
The only chance of a real western victory is to humiliate Putin and cause his government to fall. This, I am sure, is the plan — a fantasy of the Neo-Cons. Hopefully those who are able to see the likely outcome of non-capitulation by the Russians (the DoD?) are able to pull away from this course.
Another possibility is the Russians hit back so hard and fast (if they do have the best technology) that the West can’t fight back conventionally. This, however, would get the Western public’s blood up, but then wouldn’t matter.
I have no idea what the best course of action is. The one thing I am sure of is that eventually if Russia wants to survive they’ll have to fight, the Empire will not let go easily like the Soviet Union did. Unfortunately, it’s leaders really believe in themselves. Way too much.
I just saw Zombie Haley before the UNSC going full emotionalist propaganda with her gas stories and this time I couldn’t help thinking there is no coming back from this. The warmongers are committed.
Real name of Nimrata Randhawa?
Perhaps it is the feminine form of Nimrod?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley
What is NOT fake with those people, I wonder. Except for their madness and hubris, of course.
What if all the ships Russian-Chinese ships are surprise attacked first en-masse by cruise missles at such close range as they are, before they can launch their cruise missles? How does that change things?
Why would anyone fire a cruise missile from close range?
Gordon Duff called t the way it was going to be from the get go. He stated that Trump was a tool of you know who. Even though Trump told AIPAC that he didn’t owe them anything he was in the pocket of Adelson and of Goldman Sachs.
Speaking of Goldman Sachs, this link illustrates their geopolitical aim with “WWIII by 2013” by Charles Nanner chief strategist for Goldman Sachs as the USA’s debt is un payable otherwise…..check the link and remember Trump’s words about Iraq, he only regretted not having taken their Oil….think at the hostility against Iran and the occupation of Eastern Syria’s Oil rich region
Putin vows to ‘choke’ NATO in WWIII — disq.us
https://youtu.be/-FhCi7qQPbk
I thought Trump was a better choice than Soros sponsored Hitlary. But he has walked back on everything he promised. He has given up on draining the swamp, getting on better diplomatic relations with Russia, pulling out of Syria and wars of choice, even in the clash between Globalists and Nationalists, he is walking back with his late endorsement of TPP. I agree that actions speak louder than words and Putin should NOT go to Washington to bolster a lame duck president unless there is a serious effort to undo what was done in Ukraine, ABM installations near RF, sensible diplomatic and trade relations with Russia, etc. But this is not likely since Trump is looking like a single term president right now.
When did Trump say he never owed AIPAC anything? Do you have a link? Not, I presume in his March of 2016 speech? It’s pretty disgusting actually.
http://time.com/4267058/donald-trump-aipac-speech-transcript/
Where he made such statements as:
I love the people in this room. I love Israel. I love Israel. I’ve been with Israel so long in terms of I’ve received some of my greatest honors from Israel, my father before me, incredible.
Actually, I just noticed an interesting comment in that speech. Rudolph Giuliani flew to Israel in December of 2001. There was no good reason given for this except “to show solidarity with terror victims”. Interestingly he flew in Trump’s plane. No smoking gun of anything really but for those hoping that Trump will blow the lid off 9/11 it should make you say hmm….
I heard and saw his speech on TV. This was in his introduction where he bragged of being a self made billionaire and implied that he knew they were funding anybody but Trump. But this is not included in Time transcripts. He basically stated you don’t own me. But Adelson did and so does Goldman Sachs which brings us back to where we are now. At the edge of the precipice.
That is why the response from the AIPAC crowd was so tepid or subdued despite all the subsequent ass kissing which was scripted and in is present in the transcript.
The final part of the article is very good and is interesting to see russians(now decidely crhistians) and muslims fighting against the atheist and pagan empire. Soloviev in his AntiChrist …
I prefer Paul Craig Roberts’ 3rd option:
Russia escorts the Donald Cook away from the scene and simultaneously wipes out the military capabilities of Saudi Arabia and Israel, removing Washington’s ground-based allies in its attack on Syria, thus loading the odds in Russia’s favor, and making it clear that Russia is going to pre-empt attack, not respond to one.
One provides extensive capital from proceeds of its oil from its sovereign territory for the West to convert to military energy to perpetrate major illegal false flag military campaign, without which potential for such action would be starved.
The other mooches money from Christian organizations in the US and then quietly looks the other way, when the ISIS terrorists they publicly said they supported as a means to overthow Assad, murder, and behead, and burn alive and subject to every brutal form of murder, the Christians in Syria whom Assad protected. Naive Christians in the US are indirectly tithing to those who at the very least, do not speak out over the destruction of the Body of Christ in Syria by way of the militants they support.
And then we have Jordan whose soveriegn territory has been consistently used as a special forces training ground for breeding new terrorist militants, as refuge for special ops personnel and military hardware, as a base for aircraft and aerial refueling tankers, and a port for receiving military hardware that will be used in hostilities against Syria/Russia/Iran. Nobody seems to mention Jordan for some reason not sure why.
Yeah, good point; the poisonous dwarf always seems to fly under the radar.
i dont have confidence in Putins leadership. He seems to be loosing it now.
It was not exactly rocket science to suggest that there was to a false flag in Syria at some point.
He could have had all syrian air sorties from russian bases with int observers on site to prove cw are not being loaded onto aircraft and hell. It wouldnt have been hard and it would have been harder to fake the false flag with just artil shells.
Whats the russian rebutal? “nothing happened” when something clearly did as urine samples are testing positive for cw. He could have just said “the rebels did it” or with the british f flag a 3rd party did it to frame russia. Instead by saying nothing happened it discredits them from the best answer.
He could have cut loose E Ukraine just a tiny plot of land anyway, he already won crimea with a slap on the wrist. He could concentrated on the eurasia intergration which was russias strongest card. Nato was already on his border anyway the rest was just a provacation that could have been ignored.
Whats he going to do now fight half the world with 20 planes and a couple of s400s? Is the russian army going to really be able to operate in a no fly zone with 200 hostile planes intimidating them every day?
All is lost so quickly, its just that many havent had time to get their head round it yet
It’s the US that will “go away and shut up” , ’cause the other side has got the big guns. You don’t bluff when your opponent knows your hand and Russia has a very strong one.
Dear Saker.
Compare the empire to a tooth-ache. The more you wait for the dentist to remove it because you are afraid of him or the pain, the more it will Give you pain, rot, spread its poison in your entire body. Just get rid of it asap for the sake of your health.
This job has to be done there is no alternative. There cant be a peacefull Co-existence between Russia and its supporters and these morons possessed by satanic instincts. Our Western government doesnt reflect the Will of its people. If I look the comments on FB on official media sites, there is a massive number of people that see the wrongdoing of the US. There Will be massive uproar everywhere. They see the lies more and more.
Saker its odd that you compare Napoleon with Hitler. Hitler was not a brilliant commander. His discisions on his armies turned often out to be strategic disasters. When you call one, Erwin Rommell deserves it instead of Hitler. The former attacks on Russia happened when Russia was weak. If Russia is weak again and be attacked, it Will respond again like a body to a virus. It,s industrial potential Will rise rapidly and the Numbers it has a shortage on Will increase. Just like you Saïd before. The russians are fighting for a good cause while the empire soldiers and workers dont have that spirit. They are already now slaves of the banks.
Saker I disagree on your Ukrain scenario. Russia Will never help Donbass with its army even when Ukrain
attacks. Ukrain is on the brink of economic collapase and ppl wil even remember the good old days before Maidan when everything was cheap and affordable. When the State owned the assets instead the World Bank.Poroshenko,s approval rate is 7%. So dont bother. Let the Ukronazis do the job in Kiev. And besides that, the EU Will have a very hard problem to solve with nationalism in Ukrain which is strong embedded. Stronger than in Any other country. How Will the Ukrain react if Brussel wants to flow the Ukrain with waves of islam refugees?? Will they then still hate the russians and have a devotion for the Western imperialists? Really the russians dont need to have a conflict with Kiev. It Will only be the case when Kiev attacks the Crimea. But i dont see this happen. Donbass is not Somalia Saker. It has good economics and resources. Its not a bottomless shithole country.
Further, you may add North Korea to the duo Russia and Iran. Maybe Lebanon too. I agree that South America is lost to the zionists for the time being…
Faced with the possibility of the end of the world, I’ve decided to spend my time listening to music that I’ve really liked over the years. And of course, anyone who actually knows me wouldn’t be surprised to find me listening to a lot of Grateful Dead. :)
“the abc’s, we all must face, to try to keep a little grace”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgnQVjp3VUY
This song has a chorus line that repeats a cry of “I will survive.” By the finale, it changes to a group “we will survive.” Good memories of shouting that out with a 100,000 good friends. We Will Survive! . I felt like sharing that with other good friends today. Don’t know if that’s true or not, but it doesn’t hurt to think positive thoughs “We Will Survive!” If not, I’ll look forward to seeing those old friends and you, my new old friends on the other side, whereever that might be.
Lovely memory, Anon. I like what Garcia said about the ‘Dead: “Instead of one dumb guy, five dumb guys.” Absolutely hilarious and relatively true (Garcia was no dunce), but when they’re good, they are very, very good indeed. Even smacked out of his mind, Garcia could solo to the heavens and he may be the last guy who could consistently fill stadiums to do it. (Cue Ms. Coulter here.)
Regarding the above superb salvo from the Uniquely Superb Non-Millenial Falcon, in spite of upped trolling here and everywhere else (ZH now officially unreadable), I recall a few nights ago being in the presence of the Doobie Brothers, great concert, who were trying in spite of it all to bring a little human happiness… And being with several thousand people pumping my fist in the air singing “Black Water.” Do I think these fellow DB fans want war with what they think “Russia” might be? Hell, no! Of course, the neocon bankers and masters do not care. But they are not in the majority. Everyone with half a brain knows were are dangling over the precipice. Trump supporters from yesteryear especially, maybe. They’ve been had. God help us all! Singing cannot hurt!
“What price will mankind have to pay for the collapse of the Empire” – a very good and profound analysis by Saker with very pertinent arguments. What can I add to this ? what can I add is very subjective, mostly based on my inner feelings and overall understanding of the entire situation in the physical realm and in the spiritual realm : at this stage of human history, we are yet again at a crossroads, the signs of that road are showing us two directions, which one should we use to follow ? This time, the entire humanity is staying at that crossroad, even though some may think they are somewhat out of it. NO, all of you, all of us are involved, this time, there is no neutrality left in place – this just a self deceit – cause the whole world would be affected. Yes, the time for wake up call is now !!! these things may be postponed for a while, but not erased, they will come back more and more acute, as a postponed operation on an infected body. You have to appeal to all of your representatives in the actual political arena, make them remember that they have been elected by you, the people, and they have now the greatest task to hear you in these very dangerous hours, when the future of mankind is at stake. You can pray but the prayers are not heard by those you elected, you have to take action and pray. If that does not help either, at least you can feel absolved, you did what you could and from that on, everything will be judged by God.
The last time humanity was faced with an opportunity to take a collective spiritual step up, was toward the end of the 1980’s, specifically at the beginning of the 1990’s. Humankind at that point reneged on the chance to move beyond the influence of the Astral Plane ( the Astral Plane is the vast world beyond the Physical or “Pinda” Universe, where man’s emotional body derives from ) and to accept greater responsibilty for it’s actions. The Causal world affords the wisdom of hindsight, and w/out the murk of the emotions to cloud judgement, the conscious decision to accept responsibilty for one’s actions as a result. That was of course the beginning of the Clinton era, and well, the rest is history. So here we are, on another useless round of the merry-go-round, only things are much, much worse. Ce la vie.
” All the Empire needs to do is first fire a large number of dumb old Tomahawk cruise missiles, let the Russian use their stores of air defense missiles and then follow-up with their more advanced weapons.”
What if Russian (Syrian ) attack the warships not only the missiles ?
Is it possible only a local battle to check each other military capabilities and not going right away into a full conflagration ?
The Empire can follow with From Douma to Donetsk. Safer.
” And the worst case? The worst case would be if the Novorussians can stop the Ukronazi attack without overt Russian intervention. But even if that happens and even if the Novorussians launch some kind of counter-offensive liberating Mariupol or Slaviansk, these are irrelevant losses from the point of view of the Empire which sees both Russians and Ukrainians as cannon fodder.”
But Mariupol,Slaviansk and some other cities and territories in Donbass are lived by russians and under Ukrainian control,don’t know what kind of life they have. Always there is a price to pay.
The last 10 minutes of the movie ” White Tiger” ( English subtitles available) comes to mind when I see the world events and in particular the Neo Bolshevik war posturing vis-a vis Russia. Look it up on you Tube. it will be worth your time. A wonderful allegory of evil,.. everything is there portrayed… the everlasting insidious evil, the swamp in which it hides, the faith that saves those who any spiritual faith. Hitler’s imaginary monologue at the end of the movie is a masterpiece which finds so much resonance with the current events.
“… you know what has to be done.”
I hate to say it but I think Trump will go big especially with Bolton in place. He didn’t hire Bolton to pussyfoot on anyone. These fools have been beat, they know it and will probably try to make Russia look bad, very bad. Send a message so to speak. Humble Putin for standing up to them. Dare him to respond. If he responds meekly, expect them to escalate maybe even demand Russia surrender/leave the area.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Israel bombs Iran, Hezbollah, France, UK et al. bomb the shit out of anything they find. You can feel how furious these guys really are and they just gotta do something big. They want to prove moral superiority and rally people behind them even though they made up the whole chem thing.
I think Russia must know this is probably it and they are gonna have to fight. This one is not the same old bullshit the Angle/Zionists give out. They think they have this one in the bag.
If this goes big I hope Russia will use “Dagger” and take out the whole US carrier group in the gulf. Make it a no go zone.
I think Russia will try to ride this out like they have been doing, use diplomacy and international law etc. This may not work much longer as the fools on the other side will just stage another false flag.
At some point Russia and China will have to hit these neocons hard, very hard. Let the chips fall where they may.
Of course, I am probably wrong and full of it but this one feels different.
I am not sure if the AZ asses know the real ramifications of what they are doing but they think that they control everything. But what if Donbass rebels, with Russian support, flatten the Kiev “army”? What if China decides this is it, why not take Taiwan? I mean really, if everything is on the line who the hell needs to put pipelines into Germany. Let them pay a fortune for US “gas” and screw Europe.
Its gonna happen anyway. The fascists will put massive pressure right up to the first double flash. Then they will say Uh Oh! and disappear.
Just had a look at the Drudge Report and it says that Trump will be speaking to the US about what is going to happen re Syria at 9pm ET, which is now!
Also saw this report on Yahoo – Pence has left the Latin American summit and was whisked off to his hotel …
https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-pence-arrives-peru-latin-american-summit-201037884–politics.html
And Wael (@WaelAlRussi) reported 3 minutes ago that explosions are rocking Damascus :o
Does this mean WWIII has begun?
It is simply the time for people in all countries to stand. It is a wake up call.
War has been going on for long time ago…it does not matter the place…We reached a cross-road…It is a fight against the light but the light will win if a majority of the human beings stand-up for their dignity.
At this point anything is possible, but all I can say is 1984 is most likely the desired outcome, with either that scenario being the end that is desired(fluid, continual war for profit) or just the next step towards global governance. Russia doing nothing just encourages the idiots and at the very least might start getting folks who actually think on their own to start thinking about a level of complicity in all of this, like it is kabuki theater to keep the masses fearful and disoriented.