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Why war between NATO and Russia is inevitable in 2017

16284 Views July 07, 2016 Watch List The Saker

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  • War in the Ukraine the Unreported Truth

28 Comments

  1. Pandos on July 07, 2016  ·  at 1:38 pm EST/EDT

    Will this war affect my cell phone service?

    • Anonymous on July 07, 2016  ·  at 3:06 pm EST/EDT

      No. There will be NO service.

      • Singh on July 07, 2016  ·  at 5:01 pm EST/EDT

        So better to just prepare like this?https://youtu.be/WCFLg8_hHUA

  2. Karl Pomeroy on July 07, 2016  ·  at 4:29 pm EST/EDT

    If Donald Trump is elected US President, there will be no war with Russia.

    • phodges on July 07, 2016  ·  at 5:21 pm EST/EDT

      If it looks like a Trump victory they will start the war in the Autumn

    • Anonymous on July 07, 2016  ·  at 6:54 pm EST/EDT

      it is advisable to not expect too much of Trump.
      Why?
      Because the power of Zionists and their supporters in theUS over elected officials and
      official descision making is so pervasive and profound, it essentially renders the office holder(s) irrelevant.

      Didnt Obama promise ‘hope and change) ?
      Didnt he want to have dialogue with Iran and a ‘reset’ with Russia?

      His reaching out to Iran was potrayed as naive and dangerous and as for Russia you should know the story……..Obama was forced to pour cold water on the Sochi Olympics and authorize a coup in Ukraine.
      The JCPOA which he barely managed to eke out is under threat from both Clinton and Trump, despite the fact that it is in America’s national interests.

      So, just bear in mind that Mr. Trump will do WHATEVER his Zionist Overlords ask him to do..
      Already he has promised to increase the $BILLIONS paid to Israel annually. It really is a ”tribute” but it is euphemistically called ”assistance” so as to spare America(vassel) the humiliation!!!!!!!

      • chimmy on July 08, 2016  ·  at 1:22 am EST/EDT

        Agreed. Ask yourself, “how did Obama get to be president?” Answer: by contradistinguishing himself with George W. Bush. But people are smarter nowadays, they sense that there’s “not a dime’s worth of difference between the two parties” they can plainly see that “the system’s rigged.” In other words hysteresis has set in, and extraordinary measures are necessary. Enter Trump, the outsider.

        • chimmy on July 08, 2016  ·  at 2:22 pm EST/EDT

          It is a mistake to assume that there is a “will of the People” that speaks and is autonomous. The ability of elites to control and manage opinion, however, is not without constraints. For this reason, I much prefer the term, “mandate from heaven” (provided one sheds theological implications). I am ambivalent about Trump. What I like best about him, is the fact that “the usual suspects” loathe him (or appear to).

      • Jason on July 14, 2016  ·  at 3:41 am EST/EDT

        My take on Trump is this. He’s made a billion or two by being a shady real estate developer (in terms of real estate developers as group, the range only goes from shady to outright crooked).

        But now, the big boys are starting to show him where the real money lies. For instance, I saw a headline about him meeting with ‘defense industry lobbyists’. I suspect he was showed how that group pockets on a regular basis more money that Trump has made in his life. I mean Trump and his couple of billion is chicken-feed compared to the billions wasted on the F-35 or the constant cost overruns on a carrier named after our clumsiest President.

        They offer Trump a cut into that game. And maybe something like a really good deal on a block of Goldman Sachs stock to cut him into that big money game. And then Trump will sound and act very differently from his earlier statements.

        Besides, at this point, its just a whole lot safer to assume that every word from a corporate-party major candidate is a lie or a scam. It always is.

  3. Veritas on July 07, 2016  ·  at 6:55 pm EST/EDT

    There are quite a few articles which seem to intimate Ukraine will be the trigger point if the Russian diplomacy fails. It might be sooner than we think:

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/07/putin-calls-obama-cancels-region-visits.html

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/07/winning-diplomatic-war-russia-calls.html

    • Anonymous on July 08, 2016  ·  at 12:49 am EST/EDT

      Use the NK Kim noise meter, as I do.
      When you suddenly hear, after months out of the news, another way out (supposed) confrontational pronouncement that of course will send the neocon harpies into fits of screeching rage, some big event somewhere else is days away.
      So, here we are July 7 and look who shows up.

      North Korea says the recent US sanctions against its leadership ‘crossed a red line’ and constitute a ‘declaration of war.’

      A Foreign Ministry statement, carried by Pyongyang’s official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), said on Thursday that the new US sanctions targeting the country’s leader Kim Jong-un amount to “an open declaration of a war.”
      http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/07/474076/North-Korea-US-sanctions-

      • Uncle Bob 1 on July 08, 2016  ·  at 1:26 am EST/EDT

        So what are you saying there. The US slapped those sanctions on (sanctions that China condemned BTW) “knowing” that NK would respond angrily to them. And then they claim that NK is the one “destabilizing” the situation. It is the standard Western trick. While people continue to fall for that trick is beyond me.To believe the Western argument would mean a person must “accept” that the West is “exceptional” and free to do whatever they choose,whenever they want to.I wrefuse to accept that thinking.

        • Alan on July 08, 2016  ·  at 3:55 am EST/EDT

          yes, there is no end to stupidity. As Einstein said, “only 2 things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former!”

        • Anonymous on July 12, 2016  ·  at 2:10 pm EST/EDT

          Seems like I have seen this play before. Wasn’t sanctions of some sort, or the freezing of assets held stateside, the catalyst for the Pearl Harbor attack?

  4. Suzanne Majo De Kuyper on July 07, 2016  ·  at 8:02 pm EST/EDT

    Russia and China should know what Netherlands knows. The US first goes for the jugular vein, the country’s medical profession. Once enough have been killed to terrify everyone the rules are set up how to not treat patients.When a pattern of blind and terrified obedience is set up the rules of engagement with patients is set up. No more than 10 minutes of doctor/patient consultation. More you get “punished”. Recently that rule has been modified to ask if the patient wants 2 ten minute visit back to back.All doctor’s offices as wired for sound, maybe images too.

    Since surveillances are 150% all medical doctor’s problems are known too. Easy to assassinate.

  5. Suzanne Majo De Kuyper on July 07, 2016  ·  at 8:22 pm EST/EDT

    US experts calculations are that the US has no chance of genocidally removing Russia and the Slavic
    Nation populations but by a high risk nuclear war being started.George Bush 1’s Roman God of Chaos plans to take over the globe are highlighted here. Chernoble, as was Fukushima, was humanly, US, started.

    The present destruction of the famed British health service is the soon to be the well known US lietmotif of the, in this case, the UK takeover.

    Those hospitals US bombed (“OOPS!”) illustrate the rigidity of US country takeovers. “Here is how it is done!”

  6. Anonymous on July 08, 2016  ·  at 2:49 am EST/EDT

    http://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2016/07/07/1124047/merkel-defends-nato-plans-for-greater-troop-presence-near-russian-border
    TEHRAN (Tasnim) – German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Thursday defended the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s plans for a greater troop presence near the Russian border as a necessary deterrence measure.

    Ms. Merkel described the NATO plans, which include four new battalions to be stationed in the Baltic countries and Poland, as a “deeply defensive concept.”

  7. Richard Steven Hack on July 08, 2016  ·  at 3:33 am EST/EDT

    Everyone should definitely buy guns – but not to protect themselves from Russians, but from their own government – especially if Clinton gets elected, because her first act will be to try to disarm everyone. That will fail because everyone is already trying to hide their guns (do a Google search for “hide guns” to see how many products are being manufactured to make this easy.) 100 million armed Americans are going to tell Hillary to eat it…

    • vot tak on July 08, 2016  ·  at 4:56 am EST/EDT

      While I am not opposed to gun ownership, I find the idea of americans, the most indoctrinated population with far right, zionazi mostly, idealogy, using guns other than for the most selfish and criminally cowardly means (litterally what the country’s history is made of) completely ludicrous.

      • Anonymous on July 14, 2016  ·  at 2:17 am EST/EDT

        There are many Europeans and with reality issues, i.e. denial. Look at Ukraine, Poland, etc. It’s the American/Anglo/Zionist leadership, they are in control and psychopathic.
        See, http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.720653
        If you are armed, you have a chance. You can shoot back when they come looking for those who are not under the oppressors control.

    • Anonymous on July 09, 2016  ·  at 5:30 am EST/EDT

      Yes, one gun per household and twenty rounds. That will enable people to euthanase themselves when radiation sickness and starvation becomes too acute.

      It will be a sign that humans are not entirely without compassion!

    • Nombre on July 14, 2016  ·  at 3:48 am EST/EDT

      For decades, its been a standard line of Republican BS that the Democrat opponent will take away all of the guns Its the equivalent of the line of Democrat BS that the Republican opponent will take away a woman’s right to an abortion.

      Both are used to stir up the ignorant masses. None of whom apparently can pay enough attention to realize that we’ve been hearing both of these since at least the 1970’s, and strangely enough neither actually happens as a series of Democrats and Republicans rotate through the oval office.

      Its just a part of the mind control that keeps people voting for the two corporate parties, both of whom govern pretty much the same way, no matter what lies and scams and congames they pull during the elections.

  8. vot tak on July 08, 2016  ·  at 4:04 am EST/EDT

    US Marines Can’t Figure Out Why Their Planes Keep Crashing

    http://sputniknews.com/us/20160708/1042614828/us-marine-corps-mishap-investigation.html

    Well, it’s marines doing the maintenance and flying, and also marines at a loss as to why the problems are getting more frequent. See the common denominator here?

  9. JJ on July 08, 2016  ·  at 8:25 am EST/EDT

    Thanks for bringing yet another source re Donbass

  10. Anonymous on July 08, 2016  ·  at 6:29 pm EST/EDT

    NATO, right?
    removed. Mod.

    What a stroke of luck that Kim the pop-up puppet showed up yesterday to mouth off about the sanctions against NK being as good as an act of war.

    TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The boosting of US missile defense potential in Asia and the Pacific undermines the existing global security balance, the Russian Foreign Ministry said after it was announced that Washington intends to place missile defense systems in South Korea.

    “From the very beginning of the discussion of this issue we have consistently and invariably pointed at the most dangerous consequences of such a decision and called for our partners not to make this wrong choice. Unfortunately, our calls have remained unheard,” reads a Foreign Ministry statement released Friday.

    Earlier on Friday, the South Korean Ministry of Defense announced that Seoul and Washington had reached an agreement to put a high-tech THAAD missile defense system in South Korea amid growing nuclear and missile threats from the North. The system is expected to be in operation by the end of 2017.
    http://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2016/07/08/1124564/moscow-warns-of-dangerous-consequences-of-us-missile-defense-system-in-s-korea

  11. Anonymous on July 09, 2016  ·  at 12:45 am EST/EDT

    For better control when the war breaks out, what else.
    Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:15
    EU Will Create Own Autonomous Border Control Force
    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950417000339

    TEHRAN (FNA)- The European Union announced that it will create a larger, streamlined, obligatory “pool policing” force to guard its borders after its parliament approved the new agency.

    The European Border and Coast Guard Agency will add 1,500 guards to be deployed on a situational basis to “support, monitor and, when necessary, reinforce the national border guards, focusing primarily on early detection and prevention of weaknesses in the management of the external borders,” said a statement from European Parliament, Telesur reported.

  12. DennisM on July 09, 2016  ·  at 5:50 am EST/EDT

    Yes, following the dropping of the first nuke,every household should be allowed to have a gun and twenty rounds of ammunition!

    This will enable each person to leave this hapless world behind whenever they choose.

    It will also demonstrate that some humans have some compassion!

  13. RoyceRoyal on July 12, 2016  ·  at 2:44 pm EST/EDT

    Yes Yes as soon as the first half dozen body bags return with EU metro-sexual warriors, the war will be over. War requires coordination which only exists on NATO paper. A dozen languages and mentalities fighting against Russia, with one command language and defensive spirit spells doom for NATO. Georgia, trained by Isreali elites and US special forces, using first rate military technology lasted five days against Russia’s insignificant percentage of real power. Many fools, bribed to the gills, betraying the people of Europe with Fed dollars, will eventually find Mussolinin’s fate.

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