[This analysis was written for the Unz Review]
To begin, let’s recap what just happened in the Crimean waters. First, the HMS Defender deliberately entered the Russian waters under the pretext that the Brits don’t recognize what they call the “annexation” of Crimea. The Brits deny it, but after seeing 4 bombs explode ahead of the HMS Defender, they altered their course as the Russians demanded.
Next, before looking into this deeper, let’s also keep in mind the following fact: the entire Black Sea is a de facto “Russian lake” meaning that Russia has the full military control of the Black Sea. For those alternatively gifted, let me explain what this means:
- The Bal and Bastion coastal defense missiles can sink any ship in the Black Sea in minutes.
- The Black Sea Fleet has seven advanced diesel-electric attack submarines, arguably the most advanced on the planet.
- The HMS Defender was operating without any air cover but detected over 20 Russian military aircraft overflying it.
[Sidebar: For a more detailed discussion of this reality, please see these four (here, here, here and here) articles by Andrei Martyanov. For a more detailed discussion of the laws of the sea, please see this discussion by Nat South.]
In other words, the HMS Defender was a sitting duck with no chance of survival had the Russians decided to fire in anger. General Konashenkov, who is in charge of contacts with the media, had this to say about the outcome of the British provocation: (emphasis added)
“The epic fiasco of the provocation of the British destroyer Defender in the Black Sea, which abruptly changed course from Russian territorial waters after the warning shots of the patrol ship, will remain a fragrant stain on the reputation of the Royal Navy for a long time”
(-: Thereby suggesting that the Brits soiled their pants and ran for their lives :-)
Speaking of anger: I have been parsing the Russian media over the past couple of days and I will only say that there are A LOT of commentators who are mad at the Kremlin for NOT opening fire in earnest and sinking the Defender.
Furthermore, several Russian officials have now indicated that the next time around, the intruders would be destroyed.
Did I mention that the British Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, George Eustice declared in an interview that the Brits plan to repeat such operations in the future?
This now begs the question: would the Kremlin really risk WWIII by sinking a British Navy Ship trying to, to use a British expression, “poke the Russian bear”?
Interestingly, the Brits deny that the Russians fired any munitions ahead of the Defender. Why would they do that? My personal explanation is that the British government does not want to freak out the British and European public opinion. But if they are hiding the truth, it means that this is a truth which makes them uncomfortable. What do you think they might be hiding?
Still, the two UK reporters who were on the Defender (by total coincidence, I am sure), both reported hearing explosions and seeing Russian combat aircraft. The Russian FSB also released video footage taken from the Russian border patrol ships which were shadowing the HMS Defender. You can clearly see the Russian firing their guns ahead of the HMS Defender:
The Russians also have radar footage from many sources and it has been really easy for them to prove that the Defender changed course and left after four bombs exploded ahead on its course.
The reason for all this? “We don’t recognize the annexation of Crimea”. Which makes no sense because EVEN if the UK does not recognize the Russian “annexation” of Crimea (and, along with that, the democratic will of the people of Crimea), they should still recognize the indisputable fact that Russia is the “occupying power” which, therefore, has the legal right to deny any ship “innocent passage” if it believes that this ship is a threat, collecting intelligence or used for propaganda purposes (again, read Nat South’s superb discussion on the applicability of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea to this situation). As usual, the Brits are lying about everything, including what the UNCLOS really says…
Now let’s look at this from the Russian point of view.
First, the Russians remember how the Brits declared a 200 miles zone around the Malvinas Islands (“Falklands” in UK parlance) and immediately sunk the cruiser General Belgrano as soon as it entered this zone. The Russians also remember how the Turks shot down a Russian SU-24 over Syria because it had penetrated in Turkish air space for exactly 6 seconds. The HMS Defender spent about 30 minutes in Russian waters.
Can you really blame them for feeling that “some are more equal than others”?
The Brits, being the superior race which only they think they are, declared that they only changed course because a slower Russian vessel was ahead of them and they decided to pass it from the open waters side. In fact, the Brits are so superior to the mongoloid Russian hordes and their dictator that they refused to even reply to the Russian coast guard vessel when it threatened to open fire if the Brits did not change course.
[Sidebar: NOT talking to Russia, ever, seems to be the latest fad with NATO. The same goes for the EU which is now hostage to the 3B+PU nutcases]
(I wonder, does anybody still believe this crap? Does anybody still believe that Great Britain is, well, great? In Russia the expression “мелкобритания” is increasingly used. Translated into English this would be something like “Tiny Britain”)
Anyways, all of the above clearly shows one of two things:
- The Brits do not believe that Russia could sink a UK warship
- The Brits are willing to risk a major military incident possibly leading to war in order to maintain tensions between Russia and the collective West (aka the AngloZionist Empire).
This begs the question: are the Brits correct, or are they delusional?
First, we need to understand the purpose of this provocation: to disrupt the planned summit between the EU and Russia which France and Germany seemed to support, and which the 3B+PU and the Netherlands and the Czech Republic (iirc) categorically opposed (the Ukraine is not member of the EU, but they sure acted as if they had some kind of moral veto power over EU decisions). Sure, the UK has Brexited and should therefore not have any say in EU decisions, but the Anglosphere has enough power over the EU to make this completely irrelevant. We also know that Boris Johnson personally gave the order to the HMS Defender to enter Russian waters. Obviously, that kind of high level decision could not have been taken without Uncle Shmuel’s approval, thus we are dealing with a very deliberately calculated action. If this was the goal, it has been a total success and the Brits just screwed over Macron and Merkel.
Second, this is really largely irrelevant for Russia. If the EU cannot muster enough political courage to talk to Russia, then Russia will directly talk with those countries which want to talk to Russia. To put it bluntly, Russia does not give a damn about the 3B+PU. As for the Netherlands, they are a big investor in the Russian economy and Russians don’t care about what the Dutch might or might not say, as long as they keep investing (in Euros, by the way!), which, so far, they still are. Besides, considering the economic size of Holland, even if they stopped investing this would only be a minor nuisance for Russia. In fact, Merkel has even declared that if the EU cannot agree to have a dialog with Russia, Germany would seek other venues for this purpose.
Third, what just happened is yet another clear sign that the EU is profoundly dysfunctional. After the end of the USSR in 1991, russophobic Neocons in the West decided to make the Russians “pay” by incorporating ex WTO and ex Soviet Republics into NATO. At first, it looked great, but now it has become clear that the blowback from this truly idiotic policy has many unexpected benefits for Russia and major problems for the Empire. They include:
- Russia got rid of all the Soviet periphery which was bleeding the Soviet Union dry.
- None of the newly created states has become a viable, successful state.
- The Empire spent many billions trying to prop up these newly independent states (ex USSR and eastern Europe) and tried to turn them into some anti-Russia showcase. They totally and comprehensively failed.
- Now the UK and, even more so, the 3B+PU have taken the EU hostage and are preventing the countries which matter from, well, mattering anymore.
- Countries bordering Russia are now all demanding NATO troops, which puts the latter in the worst possible position, right across the Russian border and, therefore, within range of too many Russian weapons to list here.
- Last, but not least, the stupid and, frankly, totally irresponsible actions of countries like the UK and the Ukraine risk involving all of Europe in a most dangerous and devastating war.
Bottom line is this: the leaders of the AngloZionist thought they had scored big with the expansion of the EU and NATO. Now they are screwed in a major way and with no solution in sight.
This all is hardly big news, but yet another confirmation of the advanced state of collapse of both NATO and the EU. Conversely, the more EU countries decide to hold bilateral talks with Russia, the better for the future of the European continent.
As for the Brits, they are clearly suffering from phantom pains for their lost empire. Think of it, in less than one century the British Empire went from being the empire upon which the sun never sets, (Britannia rules the waves, etc.) to being the USA’s poodle which nobody respects or takes seriously. Bojo is desperate to prove that he is a “new Churchill” which will teach the damn Russians (and Chinese!) to kowtow to the UK or, failing that, at least kowtow to the Anglosphere. And, as a typical western politician, Bojo is both too ignorant and too narcissistic to understand the risks he is taking.
[Sidebar: the Brits seemed to be combining imperialist arrogance (and delusion!) with a truly shocking lack of PR skills. Not only did they deny that the Russians opened warning fire ahead of them, only to have the FSB prove this denial false by publishing the video of the Russian coast guard vessel firing ahead of the Defender, but now they came up with a truly clumsy piece of nonsense about how a “super dooper secret” dossier on the British plans was somehow apparently found by a passer-by in a heap of trash behind a bus stop in Kent (you think I am joking, then see here). Needless to say, the Russians openly made fun of the Brits saying that “007 agents aren’t what they used to be”. Furthermore, it now appears that some top UK officials were very much opposed to this move which was demanded by Johnson personally (see here and here).]
What about the British military?
We know that their actual capabilities are laughable. But what about their understanding of the situation?
I am not a mind reader and I don’t know what the British sailors (and their bosses) were thinking, but there is one thing which I am sure of: the next time around (and, there will be a next time according to UK ministers), the Russians will use force. If possible, they will try to ram the intruding vessel; if not, they might strike at the intruding vessel’s engines/props to disable it and, possibly, tow it. Should the intruding vessel try to fire back, the Russians would probably fire a torpedo and disable it. That is my best guess. I also decided to ask Andrei Martyanov (a former Soviet Navy officer) what he thinks will happen the next time around. Here is his reply:
“Most likely, they will open fire, but first only with small-caliber naval artillery (30-mm from the Russian border patrol ship or even 76-mm), and that fire will be aimed at the propeller-steering group (i.e. at the stern) to begin with. At the same time, the coastal defense batteries will actively track the intruder with their targeting radar, plus the Russian will “hang” 15-20 Su-24 and SU-30SM in immediate readiness to use more serious means – for example, the supersonic (M = 3.5) anti-radiation X-31 and take out the mast with its radar. That is just for starters. Next, the Russians will gauge the reaction of the intruder: if they try to shoot at any Russian target, they will be sunk. But this would only happen inside Russian territorial waters. Outside Russian waters the Russians will only monitor their moves. Lastly, do not forget – there are anywhere between 4 and 7 Project 636 submarines at any one time patrolling the Black Sea, each capable of firing 6 3M54 anti-ship missiles in one salvo.”
The British paratroopers also recently engaged in a major airdrop in Jordan. The Brits see that as, quote “as show of force to ISIS and Russia”. Russia’s reaction? The Russian Aerospace Forces dispatched two MiG-31K carrying the Kinzhal hypersonic missiles to the Russian Aerospace base in Khmeimim, thus showing the Brits that their ships in the Mediterranean and Black Sea sail at the pleasure of Russia. Again, this won’t be reported by the western legacy ziomedia in order to keep the public opinion totally unaware of the risks Bojo and his gang are taking in the name of their phantom pains about empire. Russian Aerospace Forces Tu-22M3M were also recently deployed to Khmeimim.
Here is a short video of the Russian MoD Zvezda channel to give you an idea of how this all looks (in Russian, but no translation needed) and which quite openly shows whom the Russians consider their likely target.
Here is a Zerohedge article also discussing some of this.
[Sidebar: does anybody still remember what happened when the “invincible” British Navy tried to participate in Trump’s (totally failed) cruise missile attack on Syria? The British subs in the Mediterranean were shadowed by not one, but apparently two Russian submarines. That convinced the British sub commander that firing its missiles would be suicidal. The Brits gave up and left the area]
There is a pattern here: western politicians make a lot of very loud statements; the Russians simply take whatever actions they deem necessary, which frees them from the need to make threats of roaring statements in the first place.
This approach has a problem: only highly specialized people in the West are fully aware of what the Russians are doing and even less people fully understand the implications of the Russian actions. Add to this a western media which lies for a living, and this results in a population in Europe which is almost totally unaware of the very real risks the reckless actions of their (supposed) representative governments engage in. How many Brits will realize that a grinning and apparently happy Boris Johnson has almost stumbled into a war with Russia? Very few I bet. If anything, the common folk in the West are told that (a) their military is the best and (b) that the Russian military is much weaker and the Russians understand that. Ergo: there is no risk.
Then there is the fact that while the general population is kept in total ignorance, western political elites are mostly composed of folks with very strong narcissistic tendencies combined with a total inability to learn from mistakes (both theirs and those of others). Needless to say, history does not inform these people either. Finally, since these folks can never admit a mistake, however minor or serious, they cannot change course; doubling down over and over is pretty much all they are capable of.
Conclusion:
There is no doubt that the Biden Administration has taken a very different course towards Russia (and Iran, by the way!) than the one favored by the Trump administration. I attribute this change of policy to the likely realization by top Pentagon officials that the US desperately needs to “catch its breath” and that the US military is in no condition to take on any other halfway competent military. Even if this is a ploy to win time for reorganizing, I welcome this as, by definition, anything is preferable to war, especially a full-scale war. However, there are clearly interests in both the US and Europe which are desperately opposed to any form of detente with Russia and who want to maintain an atmosphere of crisis and tensions just short of war. Of course, I don’t believe in any meaningful differences between the various factions competing for power on a strategic level: they all want to destroy, submit, break up and otherwise devastate Russia. This 1000 year old dream of the western ruling elites (pretty much all of them) still remains the strategic target of the West. But on a tactical level there appear to be two factions, one which understands that the Empire desperately needs a break to regroup and refine its strategy and another one which still seems to believe that the Empire is invincible and appears to be hell-bent on triggering as many conflicts/wars as it deems necessary to restore Uncle Shmuel’s worldwide hegemony.
That second group, clearly strong, has ties with the UK and the 3B+PU gang who are desperate to remain relevant and who understands that should there ever be any type detente (or even a tense modus vivendi) agreed upon between Russia and the West, that group would become comprehensively irrelevant to the future of our planet. While we can disagree with this logic, we have to remain aware that for countries like the UK or the 3B+PU this is truly an existential issue and that they see a continuation of tensions as the only path to political survival. On this specific point, I happen to agree with them.
I mentioned that ever since Dubya, all the US Presidents who came to the White House were extremely weak, which resulted in the breakup of any single US foreign policy into many different, and often contradictory, “mini foreign policies” by various branches of the government (Congress vs White House, plus a Pentagon foreign policy, a CIA foreign policy, a Foggy Bottom policy, a DoE policy, etc. etc. etc.). Hence, for example, the recent seizure by Uncle Shmuel of the PressTV domain name. (BTW – the domain name https://www.presstv.ir/ still works!).
This all makes for a very dangerous brew. Especially since the Russians clearly and sincerely believe that they cannot back down any further.
I therefore conclude that a future military incident, with the use of fire in anger, and possibly resulting in a real war, remains not only possible, but even likely, unless the factions in the West which want a time-out to regroup manage to get the russophobic nutcases under control.
Will that happen? I doubt it very much. Biden is not only weak and senile, his Administration has been organized with wokeness and (pseudo) “diversity” as opposed to competence or expertise. Thus, the collective Biden (which I designate as “Biden” as opposed to the real Biden) is probably too weak to get the crazies under control, even for a short time.
And here is the really scary thing: from the Russian point of view (and Russians all understand all of the above), sinking a British ship might well be the best solution. Why? Because once this happens, it will be impossible to conceal from the western public opinion that its so-called “leaders” are reckless, incompetent, delusional and simply dangerous narcissists who are now willing to risk a continental war (possibly nuclear!) just in order to keep denying the reality of their irrelevance. If Russia wanted to invade the UK, I believe that most Brits would be willing to risk it all to defend their motherland. But I very much doubt that a majority/plurality of Brits would support the notion of dying for Crimea even if they believe that Russia “annexed” the peninsula and is now “oppressing the Ukrainian people of Crimea”. Nor would they want to die over MH17, Skripal, Syria, Navalnyi or the oppressed homos in Chechnia.
There is one more thing I think Putin could do: make a solemn speech and directly address the people of the West telling them the truth about what the western political leaders are doing. He could honestly tell the people in the West that Russia has retreated as far as she could. He can tell the people of the West that Russia did what she so often did in history, she traded space for time and that the four years break of the Trump Administration has allowed Russia to fully rearm, retrain and reorganize her armed forces which are now quite capable of taking on both the US and NATO and prevail.
Yes, I know, Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi tried to appeal to the people of the West and, in both cases, the democratic and free western media completely obfuscated these admittedly naive and clumsy attempts. But if Putin speaks directly to the people of the West, and explains to them what a war (even a conventional one) would mean for Europe, they would have to listen. Putin could clearly indicate to the people of the West which actions of the Empire Russia could never and would never tolerate. Finally, he could clearly spell out why the Russian people would prefer war to any surrender to the Empire. And, just to make sure that the message gets through, the Russian Navy might want to have one of its Yasen-M class SSGN surface somewhere in the Channel or the Tu-160 practice a cruise missile release on London (only electronically, of course). Hussein and Gaddafi did not have such capabilities. Russia does, and she should make use of them.
Fear, especially existential fear, might well be the only thing which could break through the wall of silence and disinformation which the western media has been feeding the people for decades.
How much hope do I place in the Biden Administration taking control of the nutcases or for Putin to directly address the people of the West? Not much at all. And the next best outcome is for Russia to sink a US/UK warship (or shoot down an aircraft) without triggering a continental war. Is that even possible? Yes, I think so. Very dangerous, but possible.
Does Russia have any other choice? If so, I don’t see it. Do you?
The Saker
Post scriptum: this just in – the USS Ross (DDG-71), an Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer in the United States Navy, has just entered to Black Sea on her way to Odessa where the Ukies are preparing maneuvers in their “mosquito fleet” in the latest “Sea Breeze” NATO maneuvers (the biggest ones to date – 30 countries participate!). The Ukies have also declared that the Ross plans to follow the exact same course as the Defender did. The Russians? They announced that the USS Ross is now a “fat target” on their coastal defense missiles Bal and Bastion. As for Foreign Minister Lavrov, he just authored a seminal article entitled “The Law, the Rights and the Rules” which, still using diplomatic language, shows the utter disgust even Russian diplomats feel for the incompetence and hypocrisy of the West.
“More of the same” seems to be the trend of the day…
one can only hope.Personally I’d fire a dud torpedo into it to show how easy it is to destroy it, message recorded for the media and the British, over and out.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if NATO attempted to sail every one of those 32 ships past Crimea at the same time to really put Russia to the test. NATO wouldn’t be able to turn tail and run as it would make them a laughing stock forever. Russia would not be able to permit it as they would never again have security from invasion anywhere. War would be guaranteed! Russia would have no choice but to make a huge warship graveyard in the Black Sea.
They say that hizrolayness King George ordered his minister Grey to “find a reason for war, at any cost”…so it has been revealed and published… so for what reason his his royalness make this order?
(he got millions slaughtered and ruined the empire)
To prevent the Germans from making a land mass economy and economic relations with the Middle East and with the (gasp!) East, eg Russia.
Result?…uhhh well, here we are…
Sounds like Barbarossa 2.0 in on the horizon….for same same reason…it’s all about the phucking money, more or less, essentially looter against farmers…the oldoldstory.
This scene was more or less predictable 20 years ago…Mr P even published a note on it. It was ridiculed.
Now? Bite… I was right.
“Thou shalt not covet”. Stupidity takes the major part of human history.
Nato recently claimed they would “outspend” and “outsmart” Russia in the military area. If Russia shoot all 30 Nato ships down in the Black Sea, Russia will spend a lot of money on ammunition which will bring Russia’s economy in tatters. A calculation on the excel sheet shows it.
I think it’s likely Russia won’t starting anything first unless it has an undeniable evidence of incursion, aggression, her warnings being ignored and so on. Sometimes I think Russia wouldn’t even react if one of her ships/aircraft is shot at near her borders. I think this because it looks to me as if Mother exercises an extreme restraint and one of the reasons for that would be proving the Western aggression too much of the globe. Yes, I realise Russia has been doing this for years now but she also knows what the reality of war is, and so wants to avoid an all-out war. Not her weakness but her strength. I realise mine is a minority view and so I certainly could be wrong.
Some folks let their worries get carried away.
Russia enforcing its territorial rights (and the NATO/US lunatics risking their ships and crews) is not ‘starting a war’.
If you think Russia must stand down and allow just this once, and then a second and then back up, and then give more ground and then allow its rights and borders to be trampled on, you don’t know shit about reality.
There comes a time (by fate or bad luck or enemies plotting) that you must confront a thug, a thief, a killer. Sociopath or psychopath–it doesn’t matter. You have to protect what is yours and yourself.
This isn’t the garden of Eden or nirvana we live in. It can become a charnel house swiftly. That’s the lessons from history, near history and distant history.
The geopolitical reality is the rest of the non-West world, 75% of humanity, is counting on Russia to survive, thrive and lead.
Russia is being tested. It’s about Power.
I expect Russia will be the Russia we all think we know. She will kick ass if the asses come to be kicked.
It won’t be war because the other asses not kicked directly will get the message of seeing the Brits or the US or whoever steps up to get its ass kicked is weaker than Russia. They will see that they are allied to the loser.
Russia has the DNA to stand alone for the highest values mankind has identified. Faith in God, Trust in Christ, Family, Nation, Freedom and Sovereignty. These are the Justice and Peace values the great civilizations have always defended. Once upon a time, the West taught these values. Since those days, the West has abandoned those values.
That is what this is about. A test of Power.
Yes. I can’t rationalize it, this feeling, but I am quite confident that the Good will come to pass. Sodom (or whatever “Rome” has become, is in self-destruct, while the good arises, like it or not, fight or not…somehow I am sure.
It would, I think, be nice if there were trials…but ya never know. It would be very nice if violence did not take place.
My bets with Stumpy run run other way.
I bet the Russian smash their antagonists… $200 bucks at 100 to 1 (Stumpy knows nobody can ever collect those markers, get it?)
Never go to war against Russia, or China…it’s baldly insane…piratical over-reach.
That is such an important point: they are LOSERS!
I’d say that captures the state of the West’s ruling elites accurately. They’ve run their economies into the ground because corruption means more to them than running a country properly. They are behaving like Nazis towards their own citizens because they are bullies who can’t resist coercing and exploiting their citizens’ weakness.
In short, they are great winners and happily work together when they believe they are winning. Doesn’t matter how much damage they actually do because they are psychopaths with no empathy for others. As losers, however, their solidarity will shatter instantly. Then we’ll see what cowards they really are.
I think these actions are related to the election audits in the US. Anything to distract the people from finding out the depth of the corruption and how perhaps 2/3 of the Congress and the president participated in the fraud or where never actually elected.
That is the dangerous thing on the horizon. Another dangerous thing is how the spending is so out of control that hyper inflation may be emerging. What better way to further cook the books than to start a war? The Dems only love power. If their power is threatened, and it is, they are capable of anything.
They are always driven more by domestic politics than anything else.
‘If Russia wanted to invade the UK, I believe that most Brits would be willing to risk it all to defend their motherland.’
I’d risk a lot to defend my motherland (Scotland :-) or failing that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Russians
Saker You’re jumping the gun with all this sinking or striking of ships . If the Russian Federation is really pissed off . All they have to do is Block the exit to the Bosporus. They don’t even need military vessels to do that. What the hell is the US or England going to do about it?
Dear Russians, you must have a lot of patience. For at least 15 years the greatest Western leaders are no longer what they once were.
By dint of attending Masonic lodges, homosexual orgies, satanic sects and pedophile tourist resorts they have lost the light of reason. Even their cultural level, in recent years has dropped a lot, what do you expect?
I would like to give you some advice:
if World War III should break out, do not indiscriminately drop atomic bombs everywhere, just bomb the buildings of politics and high command, the rest of the Western population, once freed from this dirty and corrupt political class, a new life will start again and things will return better than before.
Best regards!
A cool phrase: “For those alternately gifted” …
The incident with the dyke builders was on 24 June. FFG was supposedly either coming from or going to Gruzya, stayed outside territorial waters of Russia and then turned towards the Kerch Straights, wherein lies the bridge with limited and strongly controlled access to the Azov. I posted yesterday about the dutch complaining mightily about being ‘threatened’ by Mother. Don’t want your feelings hurt? Stay out of the Russian Lake.
Auslander
Sadly, many Americans with eyes to see fantasize about Russia taking out the psychopathic leadership destroying our country and our lives.
This sentiment reminds me of a line from the Russian movie “Dear Comrades,” where an older Russian tells his daughter similar sentiments about JFK bombing the Soviet Union.
There is no negotiating with the absolute insanity of the ruling class.
That only leaves a few options on the table:
1. Ignore
OR
2. Defend/Attack
Since these monsters find pleasure in conflict and torture, ignoring them is not an option for long,
that is unless you can ignore them long enough until they completely destroy the US military because they are doing it.
Does the US government understand they are destroying the military? Is it intentional?
Or do they honestly believe they are making it better?
What is the true reason for the animous toward Russia?
Is it merely the psychos of the West wanting complete control over Russia OR
is it something much deeper and hidden?
True reason is “animus” is the product of a cardinal sin> gluttony in the form of endless lust for treasure. The nazi pirates come, take, colonize and extract… and move on. It is necessary for them to believe in an ideology that “authorizes” this basic characteristic of nazi pirate. It’s a psychological necessity.
It comes down to a juxtaposition of Character and Perception and reality… There is the Character of Target, and there is Character of nazipirates.
I think that Great Lady Hillerbilley said it…”…it’s not fair that Russian has all that oil and diamonds and lumber and fresh water and the arctic route and it’s not fair that they actually study…said after of course they’ve trashed NA and come to despise it’s people.
(Why We Fight / Capra, pt 1 of 7 https://youtu.be/Eo94Q_vGi6k (funny how war propaganda can, in time, explain matters, eh))
That Great Lady was going to do war on Russia, many people expected…and the result was Trumpie got elected…probably twice…but the snafu’d 4 years rodeo permitted the Targets to make certain preparations…
Anyway, animus does not drive the aggression, greed, cardinal sin of gluttony, does. The animus is just the necessary manifestation of Mind that enables the Policy…and the animus is curated too.
I thought it interesting that the Ukrainian nazis and the “other nazis” were Both Named together as nazis in a report from Donbass.
Quiz Friday, 10 points> Name the “other nazis”… the ones that took over after the German nazis were rehabilitated in the 1950 ratlines, the ones that made a separate “peace” from office in Basil…with German Army Italy, and the ones that wanted “Operation Unthinkable” and the ones that used anthrax and so on against Koreans and Chinese, the ones trashing NA to-day.
The US had likely been taken control of by the MIC, much like the militarists under Tojo taking control of Japan before WW2.
The Brits have ventured into Russian territorial waters (Ukrainian waters to them), but with their weapons fully loaded and cocked – a very severe provocation.
Now is there a chicken which the Russians can kill to frighten the monkeys?
Events can be better understood now.
One of those was the insults against the Deutch anthem at wembley.
It is not only a campain with regards Russia, but also actions aiming at destabilizing the move from Deuchtland towards Russia, and NS2 evidently.
This persistence only reveals the blindness of USUK to take into account the facts and realities.
Germany will never abandon NS2.
Sending bristish, netherland… warship in the russian waters just shows how NATO works. NATO is at the exclusive use of the USA. Other members are just canon fodders.
Surely the russians understand that which explains some restrains from there warplanes and Other.
The actual confrontation will take place in Syria. It is now developping on a dayly basis
“But if they are hiding the truth, it means that this is a truth which makes them uncomfortable. What do you think they might be hiding?”
The UK are attempting to hide the fact that they were fired upon in warning & that they did not react in kind but sailed away, like the USS Donald Cook in an earlier iteration of a similar provocation. Russian resolve is being tested, of course all the NATO powers know that Russia is a serious military force, & after Syria they know that Russia has a high level of combat readiness at all levels & is prepared to engage – what they don’t know, or did not know until now, was will Russia really blow their ships out of the water if they approach the coastal area. The reason for testing this is it gives the UK/US/NATO a more precise indicator of just how confident Russia is in taking on NATO militarily. They, NATO, are looking for an angle, an advantage, something somewhere, where they can strike & maybe gain the upper hand. Note all the incidents in the skies between fighter aircraft, that is the same kind of test of resolve, how prepared Russia’s defences really are & preparedness to use their military force against NATO.
Saker,
As a midwestern American I would like to offer my small account of current events.
I agree that the Arizona vote audit is becoming an issue for the collective that ruined the last vote.
Whether the vote was correct or not is meaningless against how the vote is percieved by millions of average conservative voters and any hint of impropriety that is discovered will create conditions for the next phase of civil revolt..
Those installed “usurpers” in the whitehouse know they can not withstand the whirlwind that ensues.
Russia is known among real Americans as a natural ally. No one who has an opinion on the matter trusts or believes the propaganda spewing forth on the US public airwaves. So the best course of action is for Russia to continue the stable approach they have wisely followed to date. Each day that the wild accusations of Russia’s behaviour go unfufilled is one more day the average Americans expectations of Russia as a fair actor is confirmed and one less day the criminal contingent in our government have to attempt to cause a War.
I almost posted during the last confrontation that caused Russia to mobilize their military as I am fearful those criminals in our .gov think they can first strike with the right plan. in lieu of that, any grey area response by Russia to a planned provocation would quickly be used in the propaganda infosphere.to further distance average Americans from the truth.
While many are firm in the belief that Peace is the only way forward the “right” drumbeat can get a lot of folks dancing to the tune of war.
If Russia can hold on until the results of the Arizona audit are released I think the chances for a real War diminish significantly as now those same apparatchiks who are pushing for War now have one but it will be on the steps of the Capitol despite the powerful forces running this open air gulag called America.
Until America has figured out the actual votes and the changes to the Smith Mundt Act are repealed, We are at the mercy of those who took the Citadel and turned the defenses on it’s own populace.
And what those forces seem capable of is apparently centered on poorly crafted narratives and ignorance of their adversaries.
As an American I am constantly told lies, from morning to night, in all areas of public discourse with no ability to make needed changes in the required timeframes so it falls to those who can help free us from the scourge of corrupt politicians and hidden power players buried deep in the organs of this failing Empire.
We have time, they do not and they know how precarious a position they inhabit as the current propaganda is becoming a wail of failed ideas shouted at empty rooms.
I bet we are much the same now as the average Russian was in the last days of the Soviet Union.
I thought before the 2020 election that Biden would start a shooting war with Russia. In the insanity of American politics, Trump was the anti-war candidate. The only issue is the timing of an event to cause the shooting. Apparently at least NATO countries want to start it ASAP. The Russian-Phobia has reached ever new levels of hysteria which make some sort of war inevitable. Here is a link to US State Department Travel Alert on Russia. The Advisory is “Russia – Level 4: Do Not Travel”. This is like a state announcement from an Orwellian novel.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/russia-travel-advisory.html
Even if Russia had sunk British warship, it wouldn’t have started WW3 because US & UK know they can’t win such a conflict – Putin
a clear indication that next time a similar provocation happens, the russians will start shooting a live target. i am excited.
To Saker.
After checking the specifications of the British defender type 45 destroyer, the Aster missiles that the destroyer deploys are Aster 15 : Maximum speed MACH 3.5 and Aster 30 MACH 4.5. Now you stated that Russia
for example can use “the supersonic (M = 3.5) anti-radiation X-31 and take out the mast with its radar.”
My question: How can the Russian anti-radiation X-31 intercept Aster 30 which has a speed of MACH 4.5?
Could you please enlighten me on this? Thanks.
Putin recalled that the West “raised a big fuss” when Russia conducted military exercises near Ukraine, as a result of which Putin asked the Defense Ministry to end the exercises.
“We did that. But instead of responding positively and saying, ‘OK, we understand your reaction to our outrage,’ what did they do instead? They came to our borders,” Putin stressed.
http://eu.eot.su/2021/06/30/putin-comments-on-the-military-exercises-in-ukraine/
This alone seems to illustrate that Russia’s cautious approach is only inviting more Western aggression.
I do not think it is needed to sink an english ship unless it fires first. Really. there is a way to deal with this problem in an emphatic way and it is up to Russia to implement it. I do not want to give up the card but I can hint it has to do with TURKEY.
The point is here that i think that turkey try to play them outr both. and therefore there will no help in this from the,
to be honest, yes War is bad of course but a War against Russia is needed to get those Western polit clowns grounded. It it a tragic for the Soldiers involved in this (because many of them will likely die) but the realization is badly needed on western side. Learning through pain is the most successful method for this.
Thank you for this analysis. After reading the comments, I have become convinced that these provocations are, indeed, about stopping cooperation and trade between Russia, Germany and France.
As Lord Ismay pointed out, NATO is all about keeping Russia out, Germany down and the US in. I am quite sure that the US is ready to sacrifice a ship and some sailors in the continued pursuit of that goal.
The Mighty Wurlitzer (h/t Frank Wisner) of propaganda will spin it, the masses will swallow it, and Germany will fall into line, is my prediction.
The Russians need to judge the maximum that they can do without NATO lifting a finger to come to Britain’s aid.
Britain would last 5 seconds in a war with Russia and anyone with a pea for a brain knows it. We have a lamentably small navy, an air force that would struggle to engage with Russia over Crimea, let alone the largest geographical country in Eurasia and an army that now promotes LGBTQI wokeness in an arena where killing the enemy ruthlessly, cold-bloodedly and efficiently is still the Key Performance Indicator for success in military missions.
So clearly, it wouldn’t be a good idea to do anything that meant that Biden would actually lift a finger to help. Ditto Geli Merkel. Ditto Emanuel Macron.
Perhaps they could use a micro-nuke to make Old Trafford collapse into its own footprint? All the supporters of Man Utd would be joyful inasmuch as a new stadium would have to be built to replace the leaking roof, the poor security and general lack of upkeep since 2005. It wouldn’t be a threat to the mainland USA, and if the Glazers have corrupt insurance policies in place, they could probably emulate the owner of WTCs in making a billion out of a crisis…..
I don’t somehow see ‘wet affairs’ taking on Dominic Raab as their next target as the most likely outcome of all this….
Here is a video of Putin explaining his thoughts on the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08ePhdbbGds
I’ll disagree with a couple of things. “soil their pants” – from what I’ve seen of the RN they will keep firing until all the ammunition is gone or the ship sinks under them.
The second thing is that one round from a 20mm cannon could be enough to take out the Defender’s main engine. In some ways these warships are not particularly robust. Would they fire back if fired upon? That depends on their orders.
So answer is obviously no, as Dutch ship got the same treatment as Brits.
Thank you Saker for yet another excellent contextualization… based on facts, and geo-strategic realities (rather than … some … what looks like a severe social psychological dysfunction, likely multiple).
We could, in the old days, call this kind of behaviour, at a state level, “insane”* .
* – that is, no material or… really existential advantage to be gained, at extremely high risk to… well, pretty much to all we know, including the viability of the biosphere itself.
With such so-called leaders, it is of little wonder that anything that they pronounce (without getting too close to it, I hope… you know… about… stuff and policy relating to … like … infectious agent(s) as existential threat… and such), is deeply suspected as facade by a certain, reasonably cycnical segment of citizens of the so-called western liberal democracies for … other secret agenda(s).
Yet, we see an embedded cohort, somehow, incredibly, facilitating this insanity across multiple supposedly independent sovereign nation states?!
These actions (HMS Defender in Black Sea) are not only greatly prejudicial to the quality of life of the citizens of these nation states, but to the entire planet.
I know you have written extensively on the corruption and moral decay, i.e. woke fascism (including, as is sometimes the ironic/hypocritical case, following a trend, I should add, a sub-org self-described as Antifa – Anti-fascism), but this is yet another symptom, not an underlying driver, what is the underlying driving force, across all of these nations?!
I don’t expect an answer for this question here, in this specific article; I know this is a large and fundamental issue.
However, perhaps you could give an opinion, specific to the HMS Defender self-soiling in the Black Sea incident:
Would this have gone to VVP?
Thanks for all the chuckles – dc
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