by Peter Lavelle for The Duran
The writing would seem to be on the wall – Washington and its stenographers union (better known as the west’s mainstream media) are all fired-up and strategically positioned. The War Party has ascendancy and the window of opportunity is wide open, though slowly closing. The long desired wish to tame Russia is now in its final stage. “American Exceptionalism” must subdue any real or imagined threat. Importantly, intentionally generated phantom threats are given the most attention and media space. Russia is in this category. The reasons are patently obvious:
Russia refuses to take the bait: From the proxy-backed South Ossetian conflict in 2008, to the forced regime change in Kiev in 2014, and to the defense of Syria’s sovereignty in its fight against western supported terrorists, Russia has stood its ground against western-inspired machinations. In all three cases, Washington’s attempt to lure Moscow into confrontation has failed. In fact, the west has been the net loser in each of these foreign policy maneuvers – all three attempts ending in fiascos.
Result: We should expect Washington to up the ante – direct confrontation with Russia via its NATO minions.
Sanctions against Russia have failed: Western sanctions attempting to control Russian “behavior” have had the opposite impact. Step-by-step – without fanfare – Russia has retired 30% of its external debt in only two years. Import substitution has continued apace, leaving a number of European markets stagnate with relief nowhere in sight. Sanctions against the banking sector certainly have been not without pain. Though there is an upside: Russian businesses are in the process of withdrawing from the west’s toxic financial sectors. When the next bubble bursts, Russia will avoid much of the damage the U.S. will export to the global financial system.
Result: We should expect more faux media-inspired circuses like the “Panama Papers” attempting to discredit Russian businesses and finances.
Humiliating the Empire never goes without punishment: Washington and its allies are not used to taking the answer “no” lightly. Through hook and mostly crook the “Washington Consensus” gets its way almost all the time. When there is a dissenting voice vast resources are marshalled to silence and destroy the contrarian. Russia is the quintessential “Contrarian Power” in the Washington-centric world. Russia has and will defend itself against the NATO alliance moving to its borders, it will respond in kind to missile defence aimed at its nuclear deterrent, it will defend its sovereignty and those of others (like Syria if Moscow has the resources), it will demand equal treatment on the world’s energy markets, and it will not turn a blind eye to Washington’s addiction forcing illegal regime changes around the world.
Result: We should expect the west to invent a crisis in one of the Baltic States. Even though many ethnic Russians face discrimination and hardship in these states, many do actually have a stable life. There is zero evidence they want this to change. But never underestimate Washington’s fear mongering!
Those damn Russians refuse to be isolated!: It is repeated over and over again that Russia is isolated internationally. There is no evidence of this whatsoever beyond no longer being a member of the G8. The fact Russia was excluded from this group is a blessing in disguise. It is the G7 countries that account for most of the world’s woes and suffering. Come to think of it how often does Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov visit Washington? Interesting – it seems U.S. Secretary of State is constantly on a plane to Moscow to meet with Lavrov and/or Putin. Moscow has on numerous occasions proposed a solution to the Syrian quagmire; it is Washington that can’t stomach defeat there (even though defeat has been staring Washington in the face for years). Years from now history will record how the “Washington Consensus” isolated itself in a world undergoing incredible transitions.
Result: Washington will continue its “the worse the better” approach in Syria and the Middle East and blame Russia. Russia didn’t destroy the Middle East starting a vast immigrant/refugee crisis. Europe will continue to pay a high price for its senseless and cruel meddling. Of course Russia will be blamed.
Putin’s authoritarianism or western-made global rock star?: The simple fact is there is no political, social, or grassroots opposition ready to initiate a people’s uprising against the hated “Putin regime.” Widespread dissent against the current political establishment is pure western media fantasy. Putin is widely popular and respected, though there are those who openly speak out against the Russian president. There is nothing extraordinary about that. Actually, Washington and Co have given Putin a significant boost in his poll numbers. After two years of recession in Russia there is no indication the people at large blame Putin. Standing up to the west has seen Putin’s poll numbers soar. Most importantly for the majority of Russians their country has returned to the world stage as a proud power defending its own interests and international law. Putin gets the credit.
Result: Once the west calls someone Hitler, then there is no way back. The demonization will continue. The results of such a policy have already been shown to be counter-productive and dangerous.
Peter Lavelle is anchor of RT political debate program CrossTalk. The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of his employer.
We see President Vladimir Putin dressed as usual in a tie and business suit sitting cross legged on a blanket. Joining the president is Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu wearing his uniform and kneels down with his feet tucked beneath him. It is a clear sunny day and both men are looking down and observing the noise and dust coming from the battle drills below the plains in the neighboring countries on Russia’s western border. The politician and the general have an inventory of modern military plastic toys next to each other such as: tanks, artillery, soldiers, airplanes, personnel carriers and missile launchers.
Putin: “Okay Sergei, now you be NATO and I’ll be our defense forces.”
Shoigu: “What?? Why do I have to be NATO?”
Putin: “Because I’m the president, that’s why.”
Shoigu: “S***.”
Putin: “Okay you start and try a surprise attack on our border.”
Shoigu: “Why, I’ll get wiped out.”
Putin: “Go on.”
Shoigu: “S***.” He picks up a toy airplane in each hand, simulates the sound of a jet engine and flies them across the imaginary border of Russia.
Putin: “Oh look, a surprise attack!” The president launches two surface to air missiles and destroys each of the invading aircraft.
Shoigu: “Crap.” With a frown on his face, he lights a fat cigar and blows thick smoke across the border.
Putin coughs from the heavy fumes, “What’s that for??”
Shoigu: “Smokescreen.” He then moves his battle tanks aggressively towards the president’s forces.
Undeterred, Putin advances a line of personnel carriers on each side of the tank column forming a flanking gauntlet and simulates launching multiple antitank missiles to obliterate the large moving vehicles.
Shoigu: “S***.” He decides to move all his army corps of men and machines in one single thrust to break across the border.
The president responds by calmly removing a large hammer from behind his back and smashes all of Shoigu’s toys to smithereens.
Shoigu: “What was that??”
Putin: “Tactical nukes, your NATO forces are all dead.”
Shoigu: “S***.”
“””””Shoigu: “What was that??”
Putin: “Tactical nukes, your NATO forces are all dead.”
Shoigu: “S***.””””””
Oh, how smart.
And do you have a clue what happens next?
Apparently you missed the part where US-NATO invaded Russia.
There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth by the western hegemon. If they choose to escalate, the east coast of the U.S. will look like toast burnt around its edge. Washington will huff and puff but do nothing else because they know they can’t defeat Russia and will not risk a massive loss of their civilian population.
I agree with PTT that Russia has options with which to smash invaders.
But I am not competent to play with the planes, tanks and missiles in his scenario.
To me, it seems that the largest ingredient in this, until things suddenly escalate ina time frame of hours or even minutes, is the political game.
If Russia can respond defensively, or has to use tactical nukes on invading forces already in Russia, it would seem that:
1. She has to.
and 2 She is in good shape in the political war.
I don’t think Martin is alarmed at such. If I am right, he is alarmed at the idea of escalation of Russian missiles hitting in foreign territory, before any NATO missiles are launched.
On the other hand, if missiles are in the air, headed for Russia, it seems that the logic of war would mean Russian missiles targetting foreign territory. This escalating into intercontinental missiles is the doomsday worry. I’ve heard arguments that it could stop with tactical nukes very close to the borders of Russia, but I certainly share apprehensions about that scenario widening without end, until it is intercontinental.
MAD.Mutual Assured Destruction contains the aggressor.
NATO/US cannot retaliate with strategic nukes because the world would end.
The whole point of MAD is to prevent the end. It does not prevent tactical nukes used in close quarters.
So, run the script of the war game again and see how the attacking land or sea force gets nuked and can’t respond.
Putin and Russia have worked this out a million times. That is why they are, with their air defenses, impregnable. You attack, they kill you.
Russia is not USSR which might have had offensive capability to enter West Europe with a massive force. (Of course, they never did, nor threatened it. They moved inside their Warsaw Block in force, Hungary and Czechslovakia. But they were never an aggressor state beyond their sphere.) The US had the same plan of defense. Tactical nukes aimed at the Fulda Gap through which the tanks would come.
So, there would be a defeat of the aggressor using tactical nukes and no end of the world.
Case closed.
Now, for all the folks worried about the coming WW3, it is on already in Hybrid form. The West is going nowhere with it, but it is very real and doing some damage.
And if you think for a moment Putin will toss them on their ass soon in several places. He knows what he is doing, as does the Security Council of the RF, as does Shoigu and Rogozin and MIC in the RF, as does Lavrov and the Foreign Ministry. They are so far above US thinkers and leaders as to be Major League against low Minor League. US has enormous power, has to use it against weak third world targets. Can’t fight on the land. And against RF can’t fly and get air superiority.
So you are hard put to show me how the US/West/NATO can do anything to start or win or fight a WW3 in military terms. They have no idea. The largest campaign the present Pentagon has planned was Gulf War 1. It took them 6 months to amass a comfortable edge against Iraq in Kuwait.
Tell me, how many hours would it take Russia to do the same task?
We saw Syria and how they entered and fought that war. Russia is a military nation.
The US is a Liberal oligarchy that hasn’t won a real war against a substantial foe since 1945.
It has fought endlessly since then and has yet to score a victory.
Trump is winning on one of his battle cries: “We don’t win any more!” And all Americans understand it.
Few Americans are alive since the last victory. (I know, Grenada and Gulf War I should count for something, but they don’t. They are a joke.)
The US has four wars going right now and no hope of victory in any of them.
Maybe, when Trump gets in, he and Putin can team up and ISIS can be defeated.
So, then, WW3, we are left with one Strategy. A Space launched war, a surprise attack that takes out all Russian electronics and catches all systems alseep, underground, on rails, in planes, missiles, submarines, wherever.
Do you think that can happen? That Russia is not ready 24/7 for a massive strategic nuclear attack?
Work out how all those incoming get launched at Russia from all the points in Space, Air and Land, by what systems, manned by who. And keeep it a secret from Russia.
And you think it could happen?
The US think tanks have run this scenario for 66 years. They have never found the “window” to do it.
But mere civilians think its very probable. They write columns about it.
I take you back to January and Turkey’s shoot down of the Russian jet. Recall the fear that paralyzed the West, NATO, the US, the DOD. What froze them from defending Turkey? They knew Putin could wipe Turkey and they could do nothing. Why? Because they can’t stop him. They would get wiped also. And then, they would have to attack. And the Attacker dies, too.
Quick reminder…
“The US is a Liberal oligarchy that hasn’t won a real war against a substantial foe since 1945.”
The US didn’t win that — USSR did.
My Dad was a Naval officer all over the Pacific and he didn’t mention any Russians fighting out there in the Coral sea and Guadalcanal.
However, he always thought the cold war was a construct of banks. Like most vets of that war, he was a total cynic about all things Washington.
Americans who don’t profit from weapons sales are horrified at the idea of war with Russia…we have Russians all over the US…teachers, waiters, cooks, sailors, spies, crooks, and some Orthodox priests and monks…the there’s the Old Believers in Oregon.
I know you are proud of your marvelous country…but the Allies won the war. We sent ship after ship through the dangerous North Sea route through the U-Boats to feed your people. The American people are no enemy of yours.
Interesting question. What happens next? Does the Empire really want to risk Armageddon for the sake of some East European pawns or are they insane and fixing to go all the way?
Information Released on June NATO Exercise in Kherson
Translated by Ollie Richardson for Fort Russ
31st May, 2016
The new version of the Cold War is just a con played not against Russia but the populations of the West. No one in Washington other than some Evangelical Christian Air Force officer is interested in going to war with Russia.
@Poke the Truth…funny, in a gallows humor way. But Putin probably went to visit all those meditating monks in Greece for more than one reason—a blessing for sure. The deep state types think that they can chip away at Putin ( it took them 2 wars and 13 years or so to “get” Saddam Hussein) and so much of this is bully posturing aided by their deep sense of racist superiority.
However, I do not think that the Russian leadership is about to put up with this harassment much longer; in fact, I am surprised at their forbearance since missiles on the border or even in hemispheric proximity of the USA would never, ever be tolerated. And thus, paradoxically enough, they have no respect for the ” Ruskie’s” waiting game which sadly enough is seen as weakness. oh pride cometh before a fall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7N-CNPRjN8
saw today something disturbing…
4 or 6 ‘counties’ of nato plan an ‘exercise’ going into odessa and another port,
the area of the eercise is just norh of crimea with heavy weapons,
usually these exercises are announced with great fanfare for intimidating
and propaganda purposes. not, apparently his time.
also, a ‘snippet’…small vessels are leaving odessa with grain and
vegetable oil in haste, it seems.
i can’t do links but it was on fort russ i think.
i’ll try to locate the article again.
Haha Martin;)
But change the tactical nuke, to one of the many much better weapons russia has for such:)
Nukes is not advisable, especially not on an invading army. Russia dont want nuke fallout on their soil.
And russia could easily just blanket-firebomb the invading army with squash earth tactics over them. Leaving nowhere for the invading army to run to.
Russia proberly has the most efficient grads, etc type of warmachines. It would be litterary hell for the invading army.
It’s quite simple: the cowardly bully & murderous USG, having taken on minion countries, thought it could continue its arrogant way with Russia, but instead it has been bitch slapped by Putin more than once, and is angry – and confused – that it hasn’t got its way, again.
Up against a very serious combatant, the USG has had to howl instead of fight, and been shown for being a pile of unworthy, evil s***.
There are five paragraphs with “Result” but the five reasons seem rather weak…
Here is a couple of video’s that show why that is a bad idea for the empire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD484zpctUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAxK9oUoDLk
To add to my comment. I found an English subtitled recording of the first song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEsdJZKYYQY
Thank you Peter for a good succinct piece.
Today the US is again showing its impotence with the State Dept now urging Americans not to visit Europe:
https://www.rt.com/usa/344968-state-department-europe-advisory/
“Europe is not the place to be for American tourists this summer, according to the State Department. A travel advisory warns US citizens there is a risk of terrorist attacks on tourist sites and major events in the Old World until the end of August. ….”
Well we have all been warned – terror is going to increase in Europe or are they just stopping US citizens spending their dollars abroad? That is more damage to EU economies that rely on tourism. Not good for Euro 2016 either. Why so specific with the end date? Very fishy.
Haha,yes,I saw that. And was thinking that ironically, now would be a good time to encourage those tourists to visit Russia instead.Think of how “burning mad” the EU and US would be if a lot of the tourist business went to the comparative “safety” of Russia this year.Images of tourists flocking to the Crimean and Sochi areas for the Summer holidays. Would enrage them (and warm my heart). Auslander might not be so happy though. But the “information war” value would be “priceless”.
A pox on tourists! We’re already overrun with the vermin. Dang it. Do I need to post a new ‘Rules for Tourists in Sevastopol? Hmmm.
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The people in places you visit write the same things about you.
The West does not want to go to war with Russia. Both sides would be wiped out. The West wants to chip away at Russia and threaten their borders. The West wants to send in Jihadists to attack Russia. The West wants to economically and financially hobble Russia. But ultimately, the West wants a beautiful color revolution in Russia, resulting in a stooge taking power, who will transform Russia into a very large Greece.
I agree that is their “ideal” hope. I’d only add Ukrainian nazis to the Jihadi’s in your post.
That’s the only real threat to Russia. No direct military invasion can happen–remember, the U.S. military is mainly a racket not an effective fighting force.
Nothing going to happen. Cornered rat will piss on self after few attempts at bittng bears testicles. Then the bear, in his mercy, will deficate on rodent.
ioan will really like your comment.
But if you could put it in verse, he’ll love it.
NATO rat on Russia’s border sat,
Waiting for a chance to fight….
Bear shrugged and turned his back,
Rat darted in quickly, to bite!
Bear sat down, crushing poor rat
Under a huge,furry brown rump!
Dazed was rodent, crippled at that,
Then buried under a bear-sized dump.
Hahahaha,you do have a flare for verse.
Thanks RoyceRoyal for the idea and Anonymous for the “provocation” with verses (I like it much) !
Here is my answer : The fancy Rat
Nato rat on Russia’s border
Wanted bear be put in order.
Jumping over obstacles,
Tempting to his testicles…
Cornered rat will piss on self
This is not a nine past elf.
Bear has showed his big ass
Firstly trumpeting some gas…
Then he put the cake on it
As a way to show him mercy.
What the hell, this is hot shit !
Said the rat, the man of fancy
ioan, you are really getting good at this verse! Even participating in duels. I am duly / duelly impressed. :-)
S113,
It’s not a duell, it’s a duette. I’m glad you like it.
@ ioan. Not quite A.Pushkin, but close enough.
I knew that would get you going, ioan. Anonymous was me in a hurry.
Do you know French, and Rabelais, by any chance? I am wondering where your raunchy inspiration comes from. Bro ho ho ho.
RoyceRoyal – I am far behind his shoes.
BroAnon – of course, I couldn’t miss that.Yes I know him (not personally though), mon francaise c’est pas tré bon, j’avait oublié beaucoup pendant le temps.The inspiration comes from my tiny box above my shoulders.
Thank you, the poetry befits the situation as I see it. If interested free PDF of novel “Russia’s Diamond Ruble” available to your email. In Russian or English.
Agreed .
I agree with poetic justice expressed here. There will be no nuclear WWIII. The window of opportunity for this closed two years ago. There is an ongoing hybrid war, but that’s as much as the West can manage. The West is losing, btw. That’s why all this wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Supreme Eurasian Economic Council meeting.
A meeting of the Supreme Eurasian Economic Council took place in Astana.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/52047
Putin is the first ever Russia’s head of state to visit Mount Athos, and he was there together with the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church. See the most amazing pictures here
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/52029
Vladimir Putin sent greetings to Russia-Islamic World Strategic Vision Group meeting participants
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/52016
The world is uniting with Russia, and the West is not invited. [The West is those English speaking the Five Eyes and their shills]
There is (and will be) a “WW3: The Movie”
Fear and deceit at work.
However, I suspect much of the world are simply turning off the TV and looking out the window at the mess in their locality.
President Putin is popular for the simple reason that he is defending Russia’s interests and pride. I am not so sure, however, that the present Russian Government is popular. Particularly the appointment of Kudrin which seemed an unwise and politically maladroit move. There is also concern by some important people in Russia, that Putin’s has been a little too timorous in his dealings with the west, and that this approach has only emboldened Russia’s enemies to go much further. It is argued in this instance that he needs to take a much firmer line, and, perhaps more importantly, start to deal with those in high positions in Russia’s economic, political and cultural structures, whose infatuation with everything western would possibly cast doubt on their loyalty to Russia.
In 1939 during the closing stages of the Spanish civil war, Generalissimo Francisco Franco was asked which of the four military columns converging on Madrid would finally take the Spanish capital and so end the war, he replied. ‘It will be none of those four columns, it will be the fifth column inside Madrid.” I take it readers will know where I am coming from.
The Parliamentary elections for Russia’s legislature later this year will be interesting.
5 Reasons Washington Has Already Decided to Go to War with Russia – Er… now, what exactly are these 5 reasons?
It’s all about Washington being butt hurt –can I say that? — about the nascent Eurasian union.
I suspect the West want to be able to claim that any Russian action is an Act of Aggression within UN rules. Putin still has one major weapon to deploy – the 40* Names – i.e.names of people/organisations in Europe and elsewhere that trade with ISIS, i.e. financially support ISIS. Given the extent and nature of the trade, it must have been subject to state approval if not explicit cooperation. Russia has already invoked UN Right of Self Defense against ISIS following the attack against the Russian airliner in Egypt. That right presumably also applies to those who support ISIS if they threaten RUssia directly.
* – it is actually 39 now as Turdogan has been exposed.
To Empire’s proclaimed enemies, the mere act of breathing oxygen is a provocation. Any organised effort at self-defense is “anti-democratic” and “will not be tolerated”. Only grovelling, heel licking a..holes need apply, and there are plenty of them.
A humorous example from Macedonia – almost 2 years into a “coloured revolution” and sorely trying Empire’s patience – last week a so-called debate was organised by the European Union whereby some 30 representatives of “non-governmental” organisations ( under Soros/USAID’s tutelage in Macedonia there are some 70 plus so-called nongovernmental organisations all securely attached to the toxic bosom ) were scheduled to meet while the non-Soros organisation in Macedonia known as GDOM, in English “People’s Movement for the defense of Macedonia” was to be represented by one Aleksandar Panov, a young professor of law, intellectual and patriot. It was to be 1 against 30.
One hour before the “debate” was to begin, the EU, with no explanation called off the event citing non-specified “security reasons”. As it turned out there was no way that these second rate parasites could endure a debate on even terms with someone of Pandov’s calibre. They were later to say that “to share a table with a fascist is to recognise their right to exist as a fascist and they would not allow themselves to sink as low as that”. Pandov would’ve wiped the floor with these a..-wipes, if you’re to stand up to them they’re out of there faster than a flea off a dying dog.
Macedonia is a good example of all of Empire’s techniques against Russia mentioned above “writ small” – Gruevski’s demonization, the country threatened with isolation, federalisation/collapse, yet Gruevski’s economic policies have far out-performed all in the region. He is also responsible for returning dignity to the Macedonian and, as noted above, all of this simply cannot be tolerated. Sadly, Macedonia has legions of “predavnici” or those ready to betray our interests for money and they are frontline in the current crapshoot.
Apologies…my opening sentence in the above comment should read along the lines of, “…To Empire, where her enemies are concerned, the mere act of breathing oxygen is a provocation”.
US/UK/Israel/banking cabal/NWOers– whatever you want to call them– won’t atack Russia or China. They are presently winning. The continued empowerment of the international institutions which are bleeding the sovereign powers of all nations is a demonstration of their success, as is the spread of chaos in Africa, the mideast and South America. The collapse of the dollar will merely usher in he next monetary system, also controlled by the NWO banking cabal. Even China, Russia & Iran belong to the WTO and Russia to the Fed/IMF system. Newly under control of the UN (really the bankers) is the global development and use of energy resources. What flows from this last is too immense to be listed here. So they are winning. Do you really think they’re going to push the button marked high-risk and chaos among their power structure?? I don’t.
So what’s all the scare rhetoric for? They’ve accomplished innumerable hoaxes over the years– most recently various nonexistent “terrorist” attacks. They were preparing for a phoney nuclear war. To be sure, SOME nukes will have to be fired– enough to scare people into their one world state. I have been expecting this move for a long while. Perhaps some worthless (to them) country will be annhilated– Romania or Poland maybe. Obviously it requires some Russian cooperation. Perhaps not willingly.
Is all of this wrong, mere nuttery? Perhaps, but if you were bent on setting up the NWO would you insist on conquering even your strongest opponents, or would you try to buy them off with hegemony over adjoining territory and other powers? In fact, if one looks at old books from the 40s and 50s the oligarchs were explicit about dividing the world into a few segments. China was always a very big part of these plans, and i really don’t find a few scrappy words about the China Sea especially compelling– not compared the decades of Western investment credits, technology transfers, and about 5 state-of-the-art R&D facilities. James Corbett’s a fair source on this.
It’s still probably nuttery, but I can’t get out of my mind several contradictions to the conventional interpretation that Russia and the US are at daggers drawn. One of these contradictions: If Russia is militarily invulnerable, what in the world keeps her from economic sovereignty? Why not increase her own currency and create her own investment credits? Why should Russia be in recession due to loss of Western investment?
There are other contradictions, but this is long enough. All this bothers me greatly and I hope that I’m wrong
@Penelope
I think you’re right, but I hope that it is wrong. It is better not to trust rich people anywhere. There are really a lot of contradictions.
From my limited understanding, the Brzezinski plan was to industrialize China, then cut it off from Middle Eastern oil and African resources (like Japan prior to WW2). China would then find it easiest to secure their needs by invading Siberia to reclaim lands taken by the Czar in the 19th century.
Clearly, this was a foolproof plan! Except that the Chinese and Russians weren’t as foolish as London/Washington believed. Instead of fighting each other, they have each other’s backs.
Japan and India seem to see themselves as part of the “rimland,” so the Empire is not finished. The annihilation of Pakistan and regime change/dismemberment of Iran should tilt the balance of power back to the rimland but not without enormous and wholly unforeseeable consequences.
re: “If Russia is militarily invulnerable, what in the world keeps her from economic sovereignty? Why not increase her own currency and create her own investment credits? Why should Russia be in recession due to loss of Western investment?”
Because the Church of the Golden Calf is very strong in Russia, and the PR and support of Orthodox imagery inside Russia is largely just to prop up support for the powers-that-be, not a real case of a spiritual revival. Also, the Kremlin has tried to straddle two chairs, being enough of a suck-up to the West to still enjoy their lives in Monaco and taste for finer products from Europe, while still resisting enough to hope for a higher position in the NWO. And this is why talk of a nuclear war seems a bit of a stretch. Russian elites have wanted to join the NWO, not destroy it. The problem is that those elites haven’t been offered a seat at the table and they are unhappy about it. The problem for us commoners is that this is not a winning platform. “Support the Kremlin until they, too, can go to the Bilderberg” or “Great news, Moscow now gets as high a voting percentage in the World Bank and the IMF as the US.” We need to break or at least weaken the global oligarchy, and that is why hoping for an oligarchical Russia to lead the charge is a bit optimistic. Look at how things in the Donbass are going. Anti-oligarchical personalities who could have been the future leaders are dead or in hiding, and one really doubts that it was the US who saw to that.
@ Paul II:
As much as I hate to say it; that’s how I see it too.
They have a sit at the Palestine/Israel “peace talks” (had it for years now, although they don‘t like to blab too much about it – I wonder why…), they had a sit at both Minks, they have a sit in the Syrian negotiations, the WTO, the IMF, they got kicked out of the G8, but they still sit at the G20, and of course they sit at the UN Security Council, it wouldn’t surprise me if their treacherous, thieving oligarchs visit Davos every year too…
I’m not sure how such ‘credentials’ are supposed to impress those of us in the anti-globalists camp. I fear you’re right, those token memberships are not enough, they want to mingle with the big wigs at Bilderberg, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, NATO, or dog forbid, they’re even entertaining the idea of joining the EU some day.
Depressing thought to say the least. If this is Humanity’s fight against, never mind the NWO, the fight is ultimately against a One World Government, and I really don’t see how Russia joining more and more globalists organizations helps to win the battle against such nightmarish, Orwellian, totalitarian dystopian future.
-TL2Q
I don’t think that the intent is to provoke a war with Russia. To my knowledge the US military does not even have the capacity to engage Russia in a large scale land war. I do believe that the strategy is to pressure Russia so as to trigger a Moscow color revolution resulting in the removal of Putin. As yet, this strategy hasn’t been successful but there seems to be no alternative plan.
I do seem to sense a desperation to regain control over the wealth of Russia. Global Finance Capitalism appears to be in a terminal condition due to the exponential explosion of non-serviceable sovereign debt. This situation cannot be resolved without destroying the international banks. However, the final outcome can be postponed by debt rollover for many years. This does have the downside of leeching the wealth from the debtor nations as collateral is appropriated to support this process.
Japan and the United States are well along in this process as well as Greece in the EU, with the remainder of the PIIGS group waiting in the wings. Expropriating the wealth of Russia by the money centers of Wall Street and the City of London will help to push the day of reckoning further into the future. Unfortunately, it’s the nature of exponential growth that such wealth seizures must be constantly accelerated and this effort will ultimately fail.
@ Jonathan:
“I do seem to sense a desperation to regain control over the wealth of Russia.”
Of course they do, only I don’t think it’s desperation that motivates them, it’s more akin to: greedily coveting.
As I suggested in another post [on a different thread], Russia has the potential to become a formidable power house on its own right, purely by becoming Isolationist. As I said in that post, they have everything they can possibly want/need within the borders of their vast territory to make that happen. This fact not only challenges the USian Reich, it directly threatens their Hegemony, perhaps not currently, but certainly in the future (provided the Russians realize their own latent potentials, that is).
It’s not desperation as such [at least not yet], they just want to nip such threat in the bud before it becomes an actual existential threat to them. A threat totally capable of overwhelming them with relative ease. They’re aiming for the Russian threat to themselves to be a still-born before its fully formed (if that makes sense (?) ).
“Global Finance Capitalism appears to be in a terminal condition due to the exponential explosion of non-serviceable sovereign debt. This situation cannot be resolved without destroying the international banks. However, the final outcome can be postponed by debt rollover for many years. This does have the downside of leeching the wealth from the debtor nations as collateral is appropriated to support this process”
You’re right and wrong[ish] at the same time.
There’s no ‘downside’ out of leeching wealth from debtor nations, that’s their goal! That’s how they control them, that’s how they keep nations down, that’s how they prevent those nations from becoming too big, too wealthy, too independent to pose a threat to them over time (this ties-up with my previous point too [about Russia’s potential] ).
This part: [quote] “Global Finance Capitalism appears to be in a terminal condition due to the exponential explosion of non-serviceable sovereign debt. This situation cannot be resolved without destroying the international banks.”
As bad as global finance exposure is (and we read about this: day in and day out on several sites trying to blow the whistle on this dire situation) I feel that…
1- The proverbial man hiding behind the curtain will keep the music/charade going-on for as long as its necessary.
2- They will -indeed- pull the plug when they deem it appropriate – and then they will call it an “unforeseen” crisis, as they usually do… Deflecting blame onto others, with the help of their presstitute lapdog media.
3- Non-serviceable sovereign debts is precisely what they’re after (go back to my point about keeping whole nations down in order to neutralize them)
4- “destroying the international banks” it’s also what they’re after. They want to take over (or take down) the competition. This is mainly [sure! Also arguably…] why they made the late 2007, early 2008 financial crisis happened. It was done to make some of the competition: disappear… Famously: Lehman Brothers [upon which most of the blame for said financial world-wide crisis was pinned-on at the time].
While LB were no saints in this crooked, global, financial ponzy-scheme game…. their practices were no worse than those of the other international banks… oh! But they’re just ‘happened’ to be still standing after the crisis.
Not to mention; they’ve got bigger and stronger, due to the very ‘crisis’ we’re talking about here.
-TL2Q
I think your post is brilliant and goes right to the heart of the issue. It is curious why Putin appointed Kudrin. It may be to placate the fifth column. It may be to buy time until he consolidates his strength further. I think the Russian media campaign against the fifth columnists is encouraging. I have no doubt China is still heavily a part of the NWO but their masters aren’t entirely pleased with them. It gets really murky at this point. I was hoping the 450, 000 strong internal security force Russia set up could be a powerful weapon to nationalize the Russian central bank and defeat the fifth columnists once and for all. Until Putin moves against this group, Russia cannot be considered fully sovereign. However, Putin deserves more time, the moment he made an effort, or even if someone knew he was about to make an effort to nationalize the bank, his life will be in great great danger. I am hoping he has yet another ace up his sleeve. It would not be a surprise though, if the entire conflict was orchestrated by the NWO people.
British Field Marshal Montgomery said:
The First Rule on the first page of the Book of War is, Never march on Moscow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y6xUxaqNa4&list=RDptfn8LX8o1A&index=31
..I think Saker will enjoy this..
NYU and Princeton universities professor emeritus Stephen F. Cohen was interviewed on the 18 May 2016 John Batchelor show, titled Slouching Toward War With Russia.
Yes, I know this is old news, and it has been even criticized by some, but in light of the current NATO moves, I am very, very far from dismissing it outright. If Washington has indeed already decided to go to war with Russia – as Lavelle claims – is there any reason for Russia not to take initiative in Malorussia, at last, direct or indirect?
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At about 28’38” into the interview, in response to Batchelor’s request to talk about the pressures Putin might be under because of the present rapid deterioration of military situations on Russian borders (where the Americans are taking the initiative, opening new lines of conflict, cornering Russia), Dr. Cohen said:
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I can tell you what he [Putin] has been told. I don’t think he will do it unless he has no choice, but we [the U.S.] are cutting off his choices, his flexibility at home, by the day, but I can tell you almost word for word what one group of advisers are telling him – I’m not sure how close they are to him personally, but are close to the advisers who are in the room with him – as fairly simple:
“The United States is coming, their excuse is that we are going to take the Baltic states – obviously we have no interest in taking the Baltic states, it’s crazy – but, they are coming, and it is time for us to prepare, and we need to open another front, we can’t just let the Americans dictate the new front: it is time to take Ukraine.”
And they can do it in 48 hours. And they have two options there John, they can just let the Russian air force and ground troops and tanks do it, in 48 hours they will have Kiev, and then we will have a two-front war and there will be a real war. But, there is another option. The rebel army in Donbass is very unhappy with Putin. They know they can take southeastern Ukraine, or at least the whole of Donbass, all the way to Mariupol, possibly all the way to Odessa, which they regard as part of this so-called Novaya Rossia region, New Russia as it existed under the Tzars, this is the ethnic Russian or Russian-speaking rim, southeastern rim of Ukraine. That the rebel army itself (because the Ukraine doesn’t have a fighting army, they have fighting battalions, but don’t really have a fighting army), that the rebel army, trained, supplied, minded by, maybe supplemented by, the Russian army, could take south-eastern Ukraine in a couple of days. And what would the West do about it? What would it do about it? They would now have, the West would, a two-front story to worry about. So, this is a piece of advice being given to Putin, and I would say that if we keep this up on Russia’s Baltic borders, that it becomes increasingly likely.
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It is good to hear this entire interview (no official full transcript yet, the partial short one above was mine): http://www.thenation.com/article/slouching-toward-war-with-russia/
I certainly hope he listens to them. And lets the Ukrainians free their own country. I’ve been saying that is what should have happened for 2 years now. I’m glad to see others are seeing that too.
The demonization of Putin by western media reminds that of Hitler during the pre war years but also of any other leader that the West opposed ( Milosevic , Qaddaffi, sadam, Assad etc ). If Russia do not possess nuclear weapons, there would be a new Crimean expedition by western powers .
From a strategic point of view,
Russia reminds Nazi Germany as it is surrounded by hostile countries and has managed to revive as a military power after being humiliated and living through a dark period (weimar republic, 1990s Yeltsin presidency ).
Comrade President follows strategy of FDR vis Japan in 1938…appease opponent, feed his greed and foster his delusion, use his threats to coalesce domestic solidarity…….then entice…then obliterate.
Here are my five reasons:
1) Economic Every nation by-passing the Petrodollar financial system has been or is targeted for regime change. Russia hoarding gold defies the US dollar system unique reserve status. Russia trading with China in yuan creates the danger that the Saudis could do the same to recover lost Market Share. Russian resources are coveted but beyond the control of world Energy and Mineral giants.
2) Russia insists in carrying on independent foreign policy and being treated as an equal (peer). Russia’s military defied the unipolar NWO dictates in: Georgia, Ukraine and Syria. Russia rejects: GMO, LGTQ agenda. gave asylum to Snowden, etc.
3) Global Information War. Russia resists the uniformity in the control of the world news narrative by presenting alternative news to: Murdoch’s media monopoly, Hollywood, etc.
4) Russia sides with China and Iran in a synergistic way that blocks any meaningful bullying of either one.
5) The very capable Russian weapon industry rivals the Western IMC in foreign sales. It makes very capable aircraft, defensive SAM systems, artillery and both conventional and nuclear armed missiles. .These products can or may proliferate Area denial zones in the world. This is something US dominated ZATO cannot bear.
Leliah, Paul II and TooLegit2Quit– To continue the conversation.
TooLegit2Quit– I agree that the international banking cabal will keep the present banking system going for as long as necessary, then usher in the next one which will be worse (probably a card-based digital money for the masses; maybe gold based or SDRs for trade) .
Supposedly the financial system is not doing what they want it to do– impoverishing ordinary people everywhere, and making themselves richer. The debt isn’t owed by them, but by us! How do we know that they regard the present system as being in a crisis? Their lying media tell us so.
I just can’t believe it. If they wanted the US economy to recover, they’d pass a law saying the next batch of quantitative easing (printing of dollars) has to be lent by the banks for domestic nonmilitary production– no speculation, no foreign investment, etc. They could even restrict it to a certain size firm if they wanted. But I’m not an economist. I simply don’t believe they’re unhappy w the outcome or they’d change what they’re doing.
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But here’s what disturbs me most:
Why does Russia not even speak of the desirability for nations to regain trade sovereignty? http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/from-lisbon-to-vladivostok-putin-envisions-a-russia-eu-free-trade-zone-a-731109.html
No more tariffs. No more visas. Vastly more economic cooperation between Russia and the European Union. That’s the vision presented by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in an editorial contribution to the German daily Süddeutsche Zeitung on Thursday.
“We propose the creation of a harmonious economic community stretching from Lisbon to Vladivostok,” Putin writes. “In the future, we could even consider a free trade zone or even more advanced forms of economic integration. The result would be a unified continental market with a capacity worth trillions of euros.”
Does this sound to you like sovereign countries which citizens might once again gain control over? What will they be voting on if monetary policy and trade policy are decided somewhere else? No visas? So it’s just one big country? Is that different than the New World Order?
From a Putin speech 9/2015:
“Contrary to the policy of exclusion, Russia advocates harmonizing regional economic projects. I am referring to the so-called ”integration of integrations“ based on the universal and transparent rules of international trade. As an example, I would like to cite our plans to interconnect the Eurasian Economic Union with China’s initiative for creating a Silk Road economic belt. We continue to see great promise in harmonizing the integration vehicles between the Eurasian Economic Union and the European Union.”
Excerpts from Valdai:
“formation of a so-called polycentric world (I would also like to draw attention to this, colleagues) in and of itself does not improve stability; in fact, it is more likely to be the opposite. The goal of reaching global equilibrium is turning into a fairly difficult puzzle, an equation with many unknowns”
“The issue of maintaining sovereignty becomes almost paramount in maintaining and strengthening global stability.”
“I am certain that if there is a will, we can restore the effectiveness of the international and regional institutions system. We do not even need to build anything anew, from the scratch; this is not a “greenfield,” especially since the institutions created after World War II are quite universal and can be given modern substance, adequate to manage the current situation.”
“we need a new global consensus of responsible forces. It’s not about some local deals or a division of spheres of influence in the spirit of classic diplomacy, or somebody’s complete global domination. I think that we need a new version of interdependence. We should not be afraid of it. On the contrary, this is a good instrument for harmonising positions.”
I just typed as the interpreter talked. There was more to the speech than these excerpts.
I think nations need banking/currency/self-investment sovereignty and bilateral trade sovereignty (otherwise the industry of the lesser industrialized nations is lost to more competitive– often those w lowest wages). I think they need immigration policy in accordance w citizens’ desires. If all these matters are decided by a distant bureaucracy why vote at all?
So long as we have competing oligarchs in power we will decide nothing, certainly not war and peace.
@ Penelope (good to see you back, posting in here, if I may sat so :) )
“(probably a card-based digital money for the masses; maybe gold based or SDRs for trade)”
Form what I’m reading… you can forget about a gold-based currency, rumor mills say it’s really all about electronic-fiat for the peasantry (numbers on a screen, everybody must have a bank account / debit card… which in turn helps to bring-in negative interests rates too) as for the new World Reserve Currency agenda, smart money is on IMF’s SDRs (with China playing a massive coy game on it all).
“How do we know that they regard the present system as being in a crisis? Their lying media tell us so.”
Very good point. And, in my opinion; you ain’t wrong there.
“[..] If they wanted the US economy to recover, they’d pass a law saying the next batch of quantitative easing (printing of dollars) has to be lent by the banks for domestic nonmilitary production– no speculation, no foreign investment, etc. “
Better still, if they must do a “quantitative easing” they can chose to leave the banks out of the equation, and just do a cash injection directly into the real economy. How? Simple! And considering the state of unrepair of the USian infrastructure, just put the money there. Such cash will soon find its way into the main-street economy, unlike when its horded by investment banks, hedge funds (etc). And I’m sure there are other people out there, with similar, but perhaps even more genius proposals than the humble example I just gave you.
Overall, the main answer is; they do know what it needs to be done to make things better, they just don’t want to.
-TL2Q
TooLegit2Quit, Thank you. The commenters are better here, and I like Saker’s philosophical/cultural approach– he’s always lookin at the whole picture. I’ve been hanging out a lot at Moon of Alabama cuz the posting is imm’y. But they are a fairly dogmatic bunch, and I haven’t really been able to make a dent. They’re allergic to the idea of conspiracy, and insist that the science backs up the UN’s power grab (really the oligarch’s power grab) is necessary because “the science is there” to necessitate cutting back on energy use.
I hang out a lot on 21st Century Wire, too. There’s a mix of well-educated and those who are just starting to wake up for whom I feel I can do the most good.
Here, I’m impressed that Saker allows me to post, given that he is rock-solid for the belief that Russia is opposing the US. Me: I think they’re opposing murder, but not the form of international order which kills sovereignty and democracy.
I think you’re right about rebuilding infrastructure as a step in getting the economy running– WPA all over again. I’ve long been of the belief that they are purposely taking down both US and EU. Club of Rome said long ago that NWO wd be easier if the standard of living were homogenized– and obviously not towards the high end.
First, as background “Washington” while united in the manner of a gang of thieves is actually fairly diverse and mainly interested in power and money within the Aegis of the Empire. Few are actually interested in literally going to war with a major power–that’s just not the MO. The U.S. military is only able to go against very weak “powers” and even those it has a hard time accomplishing much other than set off a majestic amount of ordinance–without understanding that the main function of the U.S. military policy is to make a ton of money for the military contractors you can understand very little of what goes on in Washington. Second, only some kind of relatively “credible” “threat” is needed to keep the con going thus any reaction by “enemies” is used to further fuel the con. Of course, ultimately, it doesn’t matter because the U.S. will invent enemies if there are none–but the evil Russians are a cultural icon in the U.S. due to decades of movie villains continuing to make Russia an enemy is pretty easy. So they’ll run with that for awhile. I think it’s a mistake to regard the U.S./NATO alliance as credible military threat to Russia. More important is to worry about the ability to foment some kind of internal threat–that Russia should see as the number one threat to its sovereignty.
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it would be illogical for nato to invade russia with the military junk they possess, without first securing the territory they occupy actually, i.e. europe. it occours to me that the border forces, at a given moment in time; will be turned around and will move effortlessly through europe to lock it down.