Dear friends,
I wanted to draw you attention to an interesting project looking for crowdfunding on Idiegogo: it is called “Misrepresenting Russia – This is a unique opportunity to be a part of a myth-busting, honest documentary series about Russia“. Take a look at all the details on the projects Indiegogo’s page:
I spoke twice to the author of this series of documentaries and it looks to me that he is on the right track. I cannot go into all the details, but I will say that the project seems to be going on the right direction and that they will speak to the right people in Russia.
As I have said it many times here, Russia and the Empire are at war, but a new kind of war. One which is roughly 80% informational, 15% economic and 5% kinetic. So information, specially in the form of a documentary in the English language, is one of the most precious and powerful forms of “ammunition” we have. Please help Russia fight and win on your behalf and on behalf of those who oppose the Empire.
Please check out the project’s page and please send a contribution to this worthy project and, if you can, offer them your help.
Thanks a lot,
The Saker
I’m looking forward to watch the result of this project.
Whilst waiting for the realization of the documentary series English speaking folks should have a look at the following available – very informative – documentaries:
https://www.youtube.com/user/RBTHvideo/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaInsiderTV/videos
http://rtd.rt.com
why does Russia need to explain itself (e.g. thru honest documentaries) to the West?
when will eastern nations wake up from their inferiority complex,
which i see as a ‘soul pathology’?
no country, nation or civilization should care what Evil (=the West)
thinks of them, but by doing so you were giving Evil the power over you for ages.
just stop it. stop!
the west is scum. start treating it like scum. like filthy dogs.
treat them like sh!t. they deserve it.
“no country, nation or civilization should care what Evil (=the West) thinks of them”
Mostly correct, but there is one aspect to it which does have huge significance: Utmost attention must be made to the West’s all-out hatred, contempt, and global lawlessness (past and present) to drive home the message. To wit: “This is what the West thinks about — and how it accordingly treats — the vast, global majority; ourselves included”.
“the west is scum. start treating it like scum. like filthy dogs. treat them like sh!t. they deserve it.”
Absolutely, yes! As soon as there is a TV channel available which delightedly pours all-out scorn, contempt, and ridicule on the West — the Elites and their “intellectuals” in particular — I’ll stay tuned forever!
Agree with you, there is definitely some kind of inferiority complex syndrome that must be eliminated. Constantly defending against the Empire will not stop it from punching Russia over and over again. Why always waiting for next punch? Why not counter punch, fast and hard? Nothing good for Russia ever came, is coming or will come from the West. Never. I hope those sanctions stay for a long period of time and give Russia time to diversify its economy otherwise I am affraid, as soon as sanctions are gone, Russian market will be flooded again with products Russia is quite capable of producing.
The trouble with you two is that you collectivise tens of millions of ordinary individual people into an imaginary aggregate which you characterise as evil, scum, filthy dogs and the like. How is that going to achieve anything constructive whatsoever? How exactly do you expect people to consider your ideas seriously when what you promote is insults against them, false witness, name calling, bigotry, prejudice and ignorant hatred? Indeed, you are being as bad as what you pretend to oppose.
I am acquainted with neighbours and associates who sometimes opine that white people are all full of warped hatred of others as well as of themselves. They say that white people should never be trusted or listened to as they are all twisted up inside, perverse, duplicitous and violent- hence dangerously irrational. It would be all too easy to take such an idea on board after reading the endless vitriol you seem to enjoy posting here again and again……and…….yet again.
Were I to show these “contributions” to the neighbours they’s say “told you so.” And there they would have a point. If you insist on expressing such horrible collectivist nonsense, let alone believe in it, then you are demonstrating that it is you who are the ones full of hatred and evil. The “push-back” from ordinary people everywhere is immediate and understandable. YOU get written off as dangerous cranks. Worse, your behaviour is detrimental not only to your own well-being but also opposes the interests of Russia and the people who live there. Think well on it. You claim to be supportive of them and yet what you express is detrimental to them.
The Saker is right. There is a massive ideological conflict occurring right at this time. Predominantly it is a matter of ideas, whether moral, economic, cultural, etc. The ideas which ultimately prevail will set the standard of living, the life-style, the achievement and success (or otherwise) of hundreds of millions of people, now and well into the future. It is truly the case that ideas matter. They set how people live and their influence is profound.
I agree with Saker (who it would appear lives in the evil west, as do I and tens of millions of other people, most of whom you have never met and do not know- yet express strong hatred for). The present conflict is 80% informational and that is why it is vital to explain important ideas to others. Each person has a mind. Each gets to use it every day. Each makes evaluations and judgement. That is why the facts, opinions, ideology and so on ought to be clearly presented in civilised fashion to everyone. That is why explanation, such as this documentary project, is important. Do not make the mistake of substituting bigotry, prejudice, hatred and, most awfully of all, collectivisation for rational, logical investigation and explanation.
BTW this very site is itself all about presenting important information, analysing it and discussing it. Compare what Saker presents and how he so carefully explains his ideas with what you have been doing.
Siotu
THAT, hit a nail or two I would imagine.
Thank you.
Take Care
Kent
Thank you Siotu for your bed time story. Unfortunately reality is completely different. Start with a history and finish with a current state of world affairs. All we see is a rampant Russophobia in the West, which is a borderline insanity.And please do not give me ‘it is our government not us’ excuse as I will never buy it. The whole West would cheer for ‘Russian Maidan’.
You said “The present conflict is 80% informational and that is why it is vital to explain important ideas to others.” Great. I wonder how do you explain to others the ‘Western idea’ of massive NATO build up on Russian borders right now?
As I said in my original post, nothing good has ever come from the West for Russia, nor will ever come. History and current events can certainly confirm this. Russia must not let her self ever again to go into ‘sleep mode’ in its relationship with the West.
And it is not hatred as you described it. It is awareness.
“All we see is a rampant Russophobia in the West, which is a borderline insanity. And please do not give me ‘it is our government not us’ excuse as I will never buy it. The whole West would cheer for ‘Russian Maidan’.”
Well put. And what further underlines the limitless cretinism of Western public opinion is that it just cannot bother to figure out what would most likely follow even given recent, highly manifest precedents. Examples:
A new Western victory over Russia (‘Russian Maidan’).
Begs the question if the world became more peaceful, prosperous, and united-in-happiness when Western imperialism emerged victorious in the Cold War against the USSR.
Ending terrorism.
Begs the question if the mayhem, chaos, death, and destruction in the Middle East has stabilized the imperialist global order.
All-out Western assault on ‘the Assad regime’.
Begs the question if the Zionazis then would keep poor little Europe safe from the refugee torrents rather than boosting the latter in the right direction.
also just to clarify, original Anon is not me, other 2 Anon posts are mine. Sorry for any confusion.
I’m the original Anon.
there is no confusion, i completely agree with you.
Siotu,
Western individualism is, to put it politely, “quite shallow”, if not outright phoney. Scratch a Western individualist, and you’ll find a congenital, grovelling sycophant. Mentally, most Westerners are simply forever high on vile corporate mindrot. Indeed, Russophobic psychobabble suits them just fine and why shouldn’t it? Instinctively, they understand that the prospect of the West raping and looting Russia (and China) is precisely what’s needed for the very preservation of their deluded Western egos at the expense of the global majority.
It’s funny how you feel compelled to defend Whitey-the-individual. If Whitey is such a brave, rugged individualist, then Whitey should have no objections towards hearing the truth about the West’s “moral stature”.
I agree with everyone in this thread at least 80% , because it is clear to me that they aren’t even talking about exactly the same thing. Siotu included.
The crux of the matter is N’s “ most Westerners are simply forever high on vile corporate mindrot….”
That is true! Most, but not all. I hate the mind control that “most” are under, which is why I don’t mind in the least the anti-western vitriol in regular, strong doses. It’s acidity is necessary, IMHO to shock and occasionally dissolve by dawning self-awareness the encrusted alkaline mind control clogging the synapses of so many people, especially on the left and right coasts of the USA.
These guardians of Russia are as needed as pitbulls in San Bernardino back yards. The threat is real!
But they are not sufficient. So I am glad the Saker allows them but is not one of them. Otherwise the Vineyard would not have the power to change western minds that it has, and would have to change the masthead to ‘Let the Empire’s War on Russia Go Hot, ASAP!”.
Ironically, the Russian curiosity and courage and openess is both a vulnerability and a great strength. This is winning over increasing numbers of people in the west, who will also caution the Russian friend to fully grasp the evil hatred, shallowness, mendacity and self loathing that grips the so called western elites we realize we probably could not ever free ourselves from if they forever succeed in dividing and isolating us from Russia and the majority of humanity, as they have, for so many centuries. The mind control is daunting and deep. Russia can apparently hold the line, as it always has, but westerners have to free their own minds and souls and start by appeciating where the spiritual heart of the resistance is located, and take greater hope and courage from the example of that Russian heart.
Will the future be exactly like the past? I highly doubt it. But in the mean time, if I lived in some areas of San Bernardino, you bet I’d have a pit bull or two in the back yard, because for the time being the plain fact is that many of the neighbors there are criminally out of their minds and have to be defended against.
Same goes for most Westerners that have a TV in the house. Their judgment cannot be trusted. They are under deep mind control, refined over millenia.
The Russians are a proud and fair people. But us English speaking people are separated from them by the language barrier. So Russia needs more English language channel’s to counter the propaganda of western news and documentary channel.
Not only that.
Russia wastes so much of her time money and manpower in explaining away or refuting western accusations that I wonder how russian minister can get any work done ?
West has understood this weakness of Russia to please Anglo enemies and is taking advantage of it by deliberate lies and insinuation to waste russian time.
“The film will be made by a highly-skilled team, who possess relevant experience in their respective fields.”
Who? Former NBC executive producers? People who did legwork for NATO? People connected to Langley? Investment peddlers from the 90’s looting of Russia?
Are they going to tell us who is behind this? Why didn’t they?
Color me suspicious, but one of the best tricks is to get the rubes to fund their own disinformation.
Information players control both sides.
I have met deep state functionaries who have apparently switched sides on this theatre, and I try to give them the benefit of a doubt, but, I can’t stop thinking that it may just be their new assignment.
The Sak thinks they are on the right track, and that counts for something.
Can we vet them with such sketchy information?
The elites are fighting. Factions are throwing each other under the bus, and rolling over on each other with targeted leaks. this is good, but I’d proceed with caution.
I was exited about RI, but then when I found out who they were, I felt I’d been had. Then Fort Russ, and later, even Peter Lavelle publicly torqued off on them.
I’m not saying the information is bad, but some of these characters are not forthcoming.
We live in strange times. It is easy to root for the tiger when the lion is winning, and this is the only correct response, but we must remember that they both want to eat us.
I have resolved to wait for some real transparency before sending money.
Cheers.
“One which is roughly 80% informational”.
Make that misinformational, Saker. The New York Times and Washington Post’s specialty.
to give correct Information is always good. Russia can make a doc. in English about itself, if it thinks it is neccesary. There is no need of an outside source for that. In any case who ever makes such a doc. it will not enter the mainstrean unless there is a twist in it.
Neocolonialist-[Neocon]/neoliberalist’s are at war with Russia, but the vast majority of Americans are not. Americans are sick of the poverty, lies and deception that has accompanied these Neocolonialist wars.
As an American, I have no interest in taking Russia’s side in a war. To me, we have an enemy within, who, after seizing the government, have pushed us into insane wars and now, threaten a world conflagration. I support truthful information that will defuse war, not aid it. I support your efforts when I believe it serves the lawful interests of the US…and a truthful, untainted documentary will do just that, Pravda/Izvestia style propaganda will not serve US interests, nor I believe, Russian interests.
Putin has won many a western heart and mind by being largely truthful in his assessments, in spite of ceaseless propaganda, large swathes of Americans view Putin in a positive light. Americans are increasing waking-up to the fact that they being lied to and cheated by a group of elitists who have forsaken the USA for the godless ideology of avarice. The propaganda has been so wildly exaggerated it has become, for just under 1/2 of the nation, unbelievable.
For the last 16 years, the godless advocates of avarice have wielded power. These nihilists have created war torn hellholes across the globe and all it, in a futile quest for world domination that has only diminished the USA’s great strength’s. The war, if that is the term you wish to use, is for a just peace between our two countries, not a war against either.
I regularly read here, not for pro-Russia propaganda, but for truths that are hidden from view by the USA’s version of Pravda/Izvestia style propaganda, as exemplified by the NYTimes & WaPo.
Isn’t what you are calling ‘Pro Russian propaganda’ simply the truth?
I am not Russian, except in the broad, ethico-sympathetic way, which, had I been a citizen of the British Colonies in 1767, may have put me on the side of the ‘revolutionaries’.
“Sometimes all the truth is one side”. – Angie Debo, author of ‘The History of the Indians of North America’
I am responding to the closing paragraph:
“Russia and the Empire are at war, but a new kind of war. One which is roughly 80% informational, 15% economic and 5% kinetic. So information, specially in the form of a documentary in the English language, is one of the most precious and powerful forms of “ammunition” we have. Please help Russia fight and win on your behalf and on behalf of those who oppose the Empire.”
I read here and take the author seriously, I just want to tone down the rhetoric long enough to see if Trump has the chops to deliver on his campaign message of a better relationship with Russia. The message BTW, was a poll dropping message so, it’s reasonable to believe Trump sincerely believed in it or he would have chosen a more self serving lie.
The western MSM vilification of Russians will not give up, determined to extract as much mileage out of fake news as possible.
Here’s vassal CTV today:
Exclusive: IP address at Ontario power utility linked to alleged Russian hacking
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/exclusive-ip-address-at-ontario-power-utility-linked-to-alleged-russian-hacking-1.3226290
” U.S. Homeland Security and the FBI have warned that Ontario’s main electricity distributor may have been the target of malicious Russian cyber-activity”
Russia has denied any wrongdoing.”
Note the juxtaposition above.
Next we have:
” Hydro One wasn’t the only power company affected. One of Vermont’s electric utilities, Burlington Electric Department, confirmed last week that one of its laptops had the malicious Russian malware code.
CTV Technology Analyst Carmi Levi called the discovery a wake-up call.
“It means that whatever security processes are being used to secure that particular IP address or the hardware or the laptop associated with that address … are absolutely inadequate,” Levi said. “Someone isn’t doing his or her job.”
-So according to expert Carmi Levi, an IP address that is in a range available to Ontario Hydro but which is and was completely dead is evidence of a security breach and failure. Really?
Did you not read “Hydro One told CTV News that it takes cyber-security seriously and “the address in question is not an active IP address at Hydro One, nor is it connected to the power system.”?
As for the recycled ‘Vermont Russia attack’, as everyone knows, the code is Ukrainian, complete with cryptographically signed ownership, freely available and so out of date that no self-respecting hacker would use that version.
142.10.38.212 is dead for now (I checked); who knows whether it will rise like a phoenix from the ashes to villify another day.
Better check your toaster Carmi -almost everything has an IP address these days and there’s no telling what Putin could do to your toast.
Go online every time you get a new IP : https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html#ru
Might as well put all the common (mis)perceptions on the table……
Does the documentary argue that Russian men are not really lazy, violent, sloppy drunks who beat their wives every day and then abandon them? Most Russian kids don’t roam the streets sniffing glue and doing Krokodil every day? Does this also mean that most Russian women are not really whores who become promiscuous at age 12 and soon become mail order brides?
I want to share this gem of unbelievable hubris and arrogance 101 (!) from May of 2001; found it on another Russian forum and felt obliged to post it here:
Russia is Finished
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/05/russia-is-finished/302220/
I don’t know you Russians, but someone – maybe on zerohedge or Moon of Alabama posted a video of your foreign minister Zharkov or something Dancing
She looked Georgeous – Elegant – Beautiful
a Really Nice Girl
what’s her first name..??
Blimey who have we got in the UK??
Catherine Ashton???
And You Russians Have Got
Maria Zakharova
That ain’t Fair
“Мария Захарова – “Калинка”./Russian foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova folk dance “Kalinka”. ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB9ykchRK88
She is Beautiful. I want her on My (British) Side Vs The American Samantha Power.
Tony
Thank you for not mentioning that poisonous empathy-lacking harridan by name in the same sentence as the wonderful, talented, intelligent and empathetic Мария Захарова.
This is not the Cafe.
A temporary problem is that until the 9th there are few articles to which one can attach an appropriate ‘global affairs’ comment.
The cafe has been appropriated by a very few authors who write pages and pages of lofty erudite poetry. Magnificent literary works indeed they are but they tend to drown out the more ‘down to earth’ geopolitical commentary.
For the time being a relaxation of what’s relevant is appropriate in order not to lose readers and their comments IMHO.
There is a nasty tone of aggression towards Western people creeping into this thread. This is a mistake on many levels. The West has an Achilles Heel, it is our own morality. The Suffragettes won not by killing all military-aged males, but by making a strong moral case. We can’t live up to our own ideals, and lead an Empire; they are mutually-exclusive. This is the chink in our armour, and Putin is all over it. If you make this about Western people, you will chase us away from sites like this, and thus lose a major battle in the Informational War. If Western governments had our support, this war would already be over. If you attack us openly you will drive the People into our government’s arms. The only peaceful way this ends is if all people come together and refuse to fight for their lies. Anything that divides the People is the enemy’s work. I would say that attacks on Western people goes against the spirit of the Vineyard.
“I am a ‘legal alien’ currently living in the Imperial Homeland” Aren’t we all?
This comment is being allowed but it is touching the edge. Please discuss keep the discussion to topics and ideas and avoid ad hominen statements … mod-hs
Ah like a true Westerner, it’s all about him!!
If you don’t wanna read thesaker go to CNN or BBC.
Saker and his crew are doing you a favor for letting you be touched by the truth.
If you wanna live in a lie, be my guest. But no lie will change reality,
the West is over, kaputt.
Siotu & others like you Earthrise may still believe you got some sway
on Eastern peoples, but you are so wrong. This time you all will harvest the wrath
and pain you inflicted on others. No exceptions. You are all guilty.
Thank you Mod for letting this comment through,
Made my point perfectly.
I see no controversy here.
Earthrise, people are the same the world over, the good and the bad, the sheep that cheer for their tribe no matter what.
The attacks on all western people come from the same people that avidly follow MSM in the west. Only those same people are in the other tribe.
the multi polar world that Putin is trying to build, I sometimes think is for this reason. There will always be some country at sometime trying to create an empire.
Erdogan and the Ottoman …. On a thread sometime ago Scott wanted the russian empire rebuilt.
Always somebody wanting an empire and not just the west.
“The attacks on all western people come from the same people that avidly follow MSM in the west. Only those same people are in the other tribe.”
¿ Qué ? Suffice it to say that I’m no follower of the MSM, let alone an avid one.
Morality?
Morality is what the west paints itself as with Hollywood and stories it makes up of itself.
The west – just U.S. in particular – plows over (murders) MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of civilians for its fight to control a foreign government and other false moral claims. Look at Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia (U.S. backed the Khmer Rouge, including politically years after it was defeated by the same Vietnamese U.S. fought against).
Many former Vietnam War veterans have given detailed descriptions of how they tortured civilians and none of them were ever tried for war crimes.
Look at the My Lai massacre and how the soldier who shot a toddler who, crying, had come to hold the hand of one of his dead relatives (mother? grandmother).
Just aimed the gun and shot the baby!!
What morality is that?
And what about all those death squads for all those decades in South and Central America? What about the School of Americas in the U.S. which schooled those from those places in torture?
If you think torture and killing civilians AND funding and training terrorists and decapitators to sic on a foreign government, because the west wants to override the government the people of that country voted in and install a puppet government, is MORALITY then you are so thoroughly brainwashed you are like one of those soldiers who kills for peace.
You have described US actions.
Just what do you mean by invoking ‘the West’?
Who else was involved in these wars of imperium – exactly?
Stick with the facts please.
As Putin made clear, the US is a parasite, misappropriating the world’s natural resources and labour output. Granted, this judgement applies to the West in its entirety but the US is the vile, consummate expression of this degeneracy, indeed being a nation of bloodthirsty, self-worshipping militant parasites. Nazi Germany was a dead serious attempt at emulating the US model of general prosperity and social cohesion at home backed up by worldwide conquest, enslavement, and genocide — duly accompanied by hysterical flag-waving and militarism.
The US population dearly yearns for all the repression, war, and chauvinism it is constantly fed and happily vote for. That will end as soon as they learn the hard lesson of a resounding imperialist defeat right at home in the midst of fire and anguish. Germans today have very little in common with the Nazis of yesteryear. Go figure.
Anon, you are only halfway there. There is a cognitive dissonance between how the West views itself, and the reality you expose. This distance is the weak spot. Hence the ‘fake news’ line of attack, the West is finding it harder and harder to maintain their propaganda. This is why it is stupid to attack Western people in this forum, you are strengthening our paradigm instead of exposing it. We need to get them to take the red pill, and see the world the way it really is.
Greenwald about the MSM hysteria and fake-news about Russia and its threat to world peace.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/04/washpost-is-richly-rewarded-for-false-news-about-russia-threat-while-public-is-deceived/
If people get stuck that “individualism” and “collectivism” are properties found in race then I fear for humanity! And yet, those two words are so important to form some sort of consensus amongst humanity, if we are serious in averting misunderstandings let alone wars.
That is the problem isn’t it, for me a healthy dose of individualism is needed to get to any form of healthy collectivism. In today’s Western world I see neither in any race that lives here.
So yes, lets hope a more balance between individualism/collectivism exists outside the Western world like Russia and China. Today’s worlds sanity and existence depends on it.
I can’t really comment on this project, since I no longer have the capacity to view videos, hence what I read has become my avenue of knowledge about what Russia is and what Russians do – with photographs accompanying this educational scenario, Putin’s speeches and the like.
In this area alone, I would like to compliment Russians and the Russian state for the gradually increasing accomplishments culminating in the recent goodwill expressed by Putin towards US diplomats and their families at this festive time of year. And alongside that, the news on the Syrian front which various blogs have been reporting with careful accuracy and which I feel contrasts positively to the hit and miss accounts we were receiving as the Ukraine situation came so suddenly to our attention.
This site above all brought accurate news and opinions about what was happening there, but Russia, it did seem, had its hands full just coping with real time tragedy and real time shifts of perception; so they were very slow responding to our ‘need to know’ – but I think they did their best. Now, it seems, the responses come more smoothly, and that is good; I think that situation is going to continue to improve.
To visibly continue to educate is a very good project, and I would hope it would take the calm effectiveness of the Putin approach into what is produced – not propaganda which is easily dismissed, but the elegance of a truthful and beautiful presentation. Go slow, do something beautiful!