Today I have posted exceptionally many articles. I try to get the to you, the readers, as fast as I can, but some might have been annoyed by the intensity of this deluge. If that is your case, please accept my apologies: there is just so much going on and to cover that waiting just does not seem to make sense to me. In conclusion to this hectic day, I want to add one short but I think most important note: the ceasefire is not holding.
Sure, that is exactly as predicted, but since there is a lot of polarization about the rationale behind this ceasefire, I think that it is important to keep in mind that is is already going down the tubes. It is obvious, really: the UE/NATO gave the Ukies the maximal incentive to break the ceasefire and the Ukies are acting on it. Besides, Poroshenko does not really control the Junta Repression Forces anyway and the local Nazis are ignoring his orders. The Russian side is trying hard “not to notice” the Ukie shelling and even ground attacks, but even Zakharchenko had to admit today that the Ukies are violating the ceasefire. The Novorussian Armed Forces appear to be very really angry at the fact that Mariupol and Debaltsevo have not been taken and the fact that the Ukies are shelling only makes their rage worse.
At this point I don’t see how a full-scale resumption of combat activities could be avoided. I guess that we will find out soon.
Kind regards and good night,
The Saker
The Polish government specificly supports the Nazis of Right Sektor.
Varyagi @varyagi 3h
“#Poland supports the hard line taken by #Ukraine’s #RightSector.” -Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Baboo here,
IMHO I prefer and appreciate the rapid fire posts. Cheers, Saker!
re: “The Novorussian Armed Forces appear to be very really angry at the fact that Mariupol and Debaltsevo have not been taken and the fact that the Ukies are shelling only makes their rage worse.”
Who are they mad at?
Hi Saker !
Honestly, you don’t need to feel guilty about doing more…
Thanks for everything. !!
Thanks Saker once again.
I am not much for looking at motivations as an explanation of events, events have their own logic. The fragmentation of Kiev made a ceasefire inevitable, and likewise does not contain the very fragmentation itself. Kiev is now split irreparably, this is what collapse looks like — in reality all the cards are in the hands of the Neo-nazis.
They cannot of course win, but they can destroy and they have now NATO as their ally. The panic that led NATO into this is also signs of a collapse of the US/EU and the question is whether this will spin out of control into a new European war, or an opportunity for good sense to prevail.
If Europe pulls back now the price is NATO, it has to then go and along with that the USD and its empire.
What is not so obvious is the massive unsecured IMF loans supporting the farce. According to Hudson the Ukraine loans exceed the quota (per GNP pre conflict that is) by a factor of 8. Moreover early every dollar received has already been stolen by the Ukie Kleptocracy (3.1 out of 3.2 billion given).
The same on a smaller scale across all the Baltic states (Poland included). Argentina has refused the extortion, and within a few months my bet is that the complete inability to pay will be obvious across the Baltic.
If the IMF now falters the USD will crash and I suggest that is months away maybe even sooner.
Time and peace is an ally, averting actual spread of conflict, strengthening Russia and the BRICs unsettling Europe, and finally giving time for the USD to fall off the cliff.
War is needed by NATO to justify itself, the IMF to cover itself, the US to prop itself up and the Ukie Neo-Nazis because it is all that keeps them in power (violence) and all they crave (more power).
Against this the peace is necessary and also fragile but each day is a gift. The NovoRussians will strengthen the Ukie government and army will weaken, and Russia will counter-intimidate (very import in driving the message through to the European populace) — and none of this is the child of factional motives, the logic commands the factions, this is a major political economic change, long in the brewing and unexpected in its appearance.
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We are totally out of control and determined to make trouble. No matter what Putin does or doesn’t do, we will counter it and the current batch of European camp followers will trot right along. I am sure that Putin has no remaining hopes or illusions that we will act in any other way, and will respond accordingly.
But again, for us, out here watching all this unfold, Novorossiya and Ukraine are simply one front in this war. Not only will NR not gain its freedom solely by military means, the Scottish referendum on 9/18 and Rousseff’s potential loss in Brazil to a Soros-bot on 10/5 can both impact the outcome tremendously. So can the decisions at the Shanghai Cooperative Organization this week on how to admit new members, including Pakistan, India and Iran. And plenty of other stuff as well, much of which we know nothing about.
It’s hard to keep a clear perspective on this bc what the AZ Empire is doing just keeps getting ever more horrible and there don’t seem to be any constraints on any of it anywhere in sight. But there’s no real point in panicking: what earthly good does that do? We’ve still got to sit back and watch it unfold, as clearly and accurately as possible. And do our level best to guide others to a more accurate knowledge of what is really going on. And pray for an end to all these horrors and genuine justice for everyone involved in perpetrating them, from the top down and the bottom up.
Random stuff on Twitter:
The West and the junta in Ukraine are carrying out a long planned war, the Russian leadership is playing a gamble and improvises.
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The lack of class analysis in Moscow is proof of class interest.
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Zakharchenko: Before “ceasefire,” the junta demanded and received end of NAF offensive on Mariupol as “a guarantee.”
The one above is very troubling. There is a YouTube of him saying that plus Poroshenko bragging that he tricked Putin over it. So now the rage in the NAF is a lot easier to understand. Great, maybe there can be a civil war or other major turmoil in Novorossiya.
Please, P L E A S E, please, keep posting as many articles as you possibly can. I’m very grateful for your time and efforts and can’t thank you enough for what you’re doing here.
Saker,
Stop making excuses for your instincts regarding this blog. It’s your blog. Do what the hell strikes you as the best you can do. No apologies accepted. We are all “big boys” and “big girls”.
Deal the cards. Today has been terrific. The variety and quality has been awesome. A buffet for the brain.
The Vineyard is friggin’ exceptional.
Just keep going for it.
And get that WordPress site up. I hate Blogger/Google/Captcha-recaptcha and not having trees off comments.
Thanks for your brilliant explorations. And don’t sweat the small stuff.
Ukies are punching back, hard. See the link in russian about Kolomiski taking both and only titanium refineries … for free.
The is the only source or raw titanium for Russia.
http://www.vz.ru/economy/2014/9/9/704765.html
What about the ones in sverdlosk?
Greg Schofield,
Your thoughts are very interesting, especially as regards the IMF: are you suggesting that if more countries simply refuse to pay, the whole house of cards collapses — the financial equivalent of the emperor having no clothes? Because of course if the dollar crashes then NATO goes belly-up too, right? Not only would the US not be able to fund it but certainly not Europe either, especially if Russia hits back as wisely as she did with the food embargo. So maybe Putin — while necessarily improvising — is also buying time for us to weaken and the pieces (BRICS, SCO, de-dollarization, etc.) he is assembling to fit together a bit more bc that is truly the way to end all of this with the least amount of damage. Plus, of course, winter is coming…
Paul II,
Do you have a URL for that Zacharchenko quote? (I don’t know whether I want it to be true, or not!)
Some light comedy brought to us courtesy of super asshole extraordinaire Oleg Liashko…these are snippets from his response to the generally-faux ceasefire:
4. Disarm the DNR and LNR fighters; demilitarize the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts so that their problems can be solved within the context of legitimate and democratic processes, including open and free parliamentary elections.
Additionally, the DNR and LNR must be declared terrorist organizations.
“7. The immediate return of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea to the jurisdiction of Ukraine, and the removal of the Black Sea Fleet from its territory.”
Now we see how Putin has put the EU between a rock and a hard place.
The longer the ceasefire continues the greater the pressure on Poroshenko and the Anglo-Zionist faction to desist from the course of war.
In the meantime the global finincial and economic war, like the war on the ground, will continue indefinately. Bankers worldwide are united in a common interest so they will continue to fund the military security information industrial complex. It is they who own it after all.
In the meantime the EU will be torn between joining AZ sanctions and pursuing a more Eurasianist strategy. The cost of being occupied territories of the Empire will continue to mount.
I try not to think of myself as a Putin groupie but I must confess his shrewdness never fails to impress.
Ukraine is not a founding member of the CIS because they want to be the successor to the USSR. So it is not just the pollacks who are out of touch with reality. The Baltic states seem to be even worse. It makes me wonder about ozone depletion and its effects on human brain function. Ukraine seems to be exactly like the youngest child in a large family that is spoiled rotten and evil. Throws a temper tantrum when ever he don’t get his way and has to be treated as special and important. If the polish are an example, beating them to a pulp only makes it worse the next round because once those brain cells are gone, they are gone gone gone..
This is excellent news. Forward to Mariupol – and then on to Kiev. Godspeed.
Larchmonter445 said it.
No apologies accepted.
Fabulous.
Humanity is winning this horror.
Saker, do not let the criticism get to you, even if they come from well-meaning people who’ve contributed to this blog like Gleb Bazov or Mark Sleboda.
Mercouris piece I thought was very good at establishing that the Ukies have been forced to acknowledge the Novorossiya resistance and start negotiating with it. Whatever is going to happen militarily will happen regardless of this piece of paper, the fact that the Ukies were able to reinforce Mariupol does not concern me too much because the NAF were not rushing to storm it in the first place and the more troops they keep bottled up there on the coast uselessly the less the Ukies will have to resist the counteroffensive after their latest attack gets smashed. Yes the Ukies will probably attack in smarter ways having learned from their mistakes and they may even forward deploy drones and use US satellite or SIGINT data to try to avoid driving into a GRAD kill box. But in the end it won’t matter, the forces they’ve massed are but a fraction of their former strength, even with some shiny ‘new’ used armor from Poland, Hungary and Romania everything they could scrape out of the old Eastern Bloc storehouses being thrown into the battle. It’s like the Wehrmacht thinking at Kursk they’re really ready to win this time when the forces aren’t nearly what they were in 1941 or early 42.
I will be trying to contribute maybe a couple of pieces a month, focused as usual on my specialty European politics and the media/propaganda wars.
R,
AK
Putin’s “end game” To have Ihor Kolomoisky and perhaps the other oligarchs, launch another Nazi putsch with Pravyi Sektor and Svoboda against Poroshenko. At which point, the EU association agreement falls along with EU support for Kiev as while they might accept a dubiously elected government, a Nazi one is beyond the Pale even for them. That just leaves the US and maybe the odd eastern European states and their position is so compromised by their support for Poroshenko that they can’t support Kolomoisky’s new putschist regime. Putin has demonstrated that he can deal with oligarchs who go into “politics”.
Nora, the Real Evil Empire is dying of its own moral and spiritual corruption. A state that savagely neglects tens of millions of its own people, that imprisons more in the vilest conditions, than any other state, that has caused more suffering through its relentless aggressions around the planet over many decades, and whose ruling caste is so deranged as to see itself as the supreme beings in all history, cannot persist. It is a cancer on humanity, with metastases in the so-called ‘allies’ in Western Europe, in the parasite castes everywhere, whose defender it is and in the numerous gangs of psychopaths they have created, trained and financed to terrorise one state after another. If the USA wins the battle to destroy Russia and China, the world will enter a New Dark Age of neo-feudal inequality and savage repression to keep that boot grinding into the face of humanity forever, that Orwell spoke of. Unfortunately nothing will stop them short of defeat, by one means or another, and like Israel, its controller in all things these days, it will follow the ‘Samson Option’ of destroying the world if it looks like breaking free from its God ordained rule. I am exceedingly pessimistic as to how this will turn out.
In the light of the ceasfire, I find the articles enlightening, and so on, no problems with them.
But.
I may be frank, YOU made ONE huge misstake, aand that was to argee upon the terms for this ceasfire, nameliy, the sole reason for this ceasfire, they managed to halt YOUR momentum, that forward tradjectory will be very coustly and I know bloody to regain.
This momentum will be hard to gett back, all thoe its YOU whom runns this counter war, I am sorry this will coust you dearly, and may be, if you arent prparing for the ineviatable next phase, when the Ukies have regained and is been reinfirce with Men and Weponry, that phase will be MUTCH wurse.
I am sorry, I belive this ceasfire was ONE bigg mistake, all thoe I fully understands the coust on the behalf of the population, at the present moment, the next stage will be wurse, if this ceasfire dont result in anything more solid.
You have been duoped by all parts.
Ans a litle sidekick to the Europeans whom is so f….. conserned on their own people and the influx of massive amounts of refugies and whatever else there flows into the european mainland.
I have for years tryed to make them admitt the real cause of the “missery” on the labour marked, and so on, that the facts, that all the wars, instigated and never admitted, not even by the scums in NF, aka (Pens zionazis earent boys) havent sayed a word about this, never will they and the rest admitt that, they are a part of the problem, by invading lands upon lands, and creating missery and pains, laying the lands bare and bombed back to the stone age, and they will not admitt that THIS is the PORBLEM.
Not a f….. word.
But to spitt and thrwon shitt on the victims of western and particulare the lunatics in the uSSAs 280 years of constant warfare and imerialism, by instigateigng 290 wars.
Not a single f…. word.
Ans finaly, anyone, any f… one, that sayes they are “freinds of Israel” is as far I can judge, a person I will not either trust nor take seriously, then I know they are turncoats and traitores.
Like the UKIP Farrange, whom is a Murdoch runnerboy.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
I am from a family, whom have fighted for the Tsaris Russia, firghted against the ZioNazis Sovjet, and so on, surivied years of Sovjet prison camps, but stil I dont hold it against the Russian people, even thoe Stalin bombed a town i Karelian to justify the attac on Finnland.
The same tactics used by the Lhazarian (zionazis) when the killed Germans in Eastern Poland, and forced Hilter to react, and he walked staight into their trapp.
What ever people may think, non of the present issues are new.
Nope, old and usefull still.
I am not pesimistic, but the price of loosing the forward momentum, dear freinds, will be horrific and bloody.
And if it will be regaine, our Lord only knows.
peace
OT – but interesting piece of the pickle (if they can find any pickles of course) the pickle the Kiev junta is in economically….
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/09/08/statistics-tell-the-tale-irreplaceable-losses-for-the-ukrainian-economy/
A rather good article on the background of the Ukrainian crisis by the head of the Russian Communist Party:
http://robinwestenra.blogspot.jp/2014/09/the-ukraine-civil-war-analysis.html
Excerpts:
The coup d’état in Ukraine and the subsequent punitive operations against the population of Novorossiya are serious signals for Russia’s foreign policy-makers, for our government. The CPRF has long been pointing out that the priority relations with the West at the expense of the development of relations with the fraternal peoples of the USSR contradicted Russia’s long-term interests. The Russian Federation’s policies with regard to Ukraine have for many years been aimed solely at ensuring the transit of natural gas to Europe. The Communist Party has repeatedly warned the government about the dangers of having Ukraine on the periphery of our foreign policy concerns and about appointing Mr. Zurabov, who previously failed in the Russian ministerial post, Russia’s ambassador there.
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The developments in Crimea and Novorossiya are a specific example of how a liberal course is disastrous for Russia. With the public sector reduced to a mere 10 percent of the whole in the wake of the total privatization drive, our country has found it extremely difficult to counter the challenges of the time. Its economic potential, for example, is hardly sufficient for integrating the Crimea. Dominance of private capital in the financial sector leaves the country without the necessary funds at the very moment when it is necessary to mobilize resources. It has to take money from private pension funds and it takes great efforts to form an armed fist required under the current circumstances, because the army has been reduced almost to paralysis by the liberal gentlemen. When one hears about the problems that arose with the ferry crossings to the Crimea during the 2014 holiday season, it is sad to recall, for example, the mighty Soviet- era army construction units which were almost fully written off “as unnecessary” by the government liberals. But we, the communists, were for years not just warning about the costs that the liberal breaking of everything would entail but also put forward our concrete and multilateral programme of urgent measures to strengthen the might of the state. The authorities’ Indifference and even hostility towards our proposals largely predetermined the range of today’s troubles.
Recently, the Russian federal leadership has taken a position that is much more consistent with the country’s strategic national interests. The foundation was laid by a much firmer stand in relation to the events in Syria, where Russia did not let the NATO member-countries to intervene and overthrow the friendly Bashar al-Assad government. The next step was Moscow’s decisive action on the issue of reintegration of Crimea into Russia. The Communist Party supported all these actions.
We believe that the hard repulse to the Western economic sanctions is an important sign that the Russian leadership continues to follow the course of realism, the course of protecting the country’s national interests. Of course, we know that it is counteracted by the liberals who control the economic bloc in the government. But the threats emanating from the West are so strong and obvious that the country’s top leaders simply have to follow the course which the Communist Party has been strongly suggesting for many years. For example, the authorities have finally realized how dangerous is the situation in which 60% of the Russian food market is taken by imported products. And they have started saying that discontinuing agricultural produce supplies from the European Union will benefit domestic producers, as they alone are capable of feeding the country under the external sanctions.
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The inherent nature of the events in Ukraine is difficult to understand without an analysis of the alignment of its class forces. It must first of all be noted that as a result of the 1990 – 2000 wild, destructive privatization of the economy of Ukraine in the interests of the oligarchs and the newly-minted deindustrialization in the interests of Western competitors, the industrial proletariat numbers declined sharply. Accordingly, the level of its organization was reduced. With the destruction of collective and state farms the rural proletariat was virtually eradicated. This changed the balance of class forces.
However, the pro-western top authorities of Ukraine failed to completely destroy the working class, especially in the most industrialized south-east regions. It is therefore no accident that the Bandera-style junta received the most powerful rebuff in those regions. The industrial proletarians of Novorossiya are well aware of the fact that the cut of historical ties with Russia, to which products of their enterprises were oriented, must inevitably lead to mass unemployment and poverty. Not only the national feelings, but also the class consciousness of millions of people in Novorossiya, though not expressed in relief, formed the basis for resistance to oligarchic usurpation of power.
An important feature of the popular revolutionary actions in south-east Ukraine, and earlier in Crimea, is that they were directed against the neo-fascist usurpers of power in Kiev, who were closely related to the global transnational capital, and against the “Donetsk” oligarchic clan, which established their political and economic dictatorship in these regions. Incidentally, the “early” independence Maidan (November – December 2013) was, in this sense, not so much anti-Russia as anti-oligarchy in character.
However, as the protest sentiments of the masses had not got the class character, they were used in the battle of the two clans of the big-time bourgeoisie. That clash was won by the group which had brought together the pro-Western, nationalist and extreme right-wing forces, who benefited from the people’s discontent in the coup.
Usually the big-time capital controls countries through their hired servants – state officials. In Russia in the 1990s, oligarchs initially dominated the bureaucrats. Then the top government officials took precedence, but later the higher bureaucracy and oligarchy merged.
In Ukraine, too, there was a struggle between two related class groups – the state bureaucracy and oligarchy. And there, as in Russia, there emerged a symbiosis of these two class groups. But after the February 2014 revolution, the oligarchs effected the subjugation of the bureaucrats. Faced with tough resistance of the people in Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk and other cities, the ruling elite in Kiev went straight to the introduction of the big-time capital dictatorship.
Oligarchs, previously hiding in the shadow of hired politicians from various bat’kivshchinas, udars and regions were appointed governors of several regions. Then the direct roguish dictatorship of the oligarchy not cloaked with any “democratic” trinkets came to reign supreme in Ukraine.
The billionaires Poroshenko, Kolomoysky and their ilk did not only immediately take over the governing functions, but also created their own private armies and secret police forces engaged in kidnapping and torturing people. Ukraine was becoming an “in war as in war” banana republic, ruled not by law but by complete arbitrariness of a politically temporary “president” relying on “death squads”, as well as on the political and military support from the United States. The peoples of Latin America shed their banana republic labels as a result of persistent struggle. Unfortunately, that kind of “state governance” came to reign in Ukraine.
There is an interesting article from a London School of Economics blog about the demonisation of Putin among Western elites, which even discusses his assassination. The URL is the following: http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/eurocrisispress/2014/09/09/a-few-reflections-on-the-demonisation-of-putin/
Western media surely have already written their articles and filmed their interviews about how the “separatists” (Terrorists) have broken the ceasefire. The EU has new sanctions at the ready and who know what other nasty things they have prepared.
So… things will not get boring.
Here is one interesting video about problem of Ukraine, very clearly explained how it all started, and what is really going on there
English version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uouSyBzOEoA
Russian version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBww9mIloI4#t=145
It may be that the ‘cease-fire’ was a clever move afterall. Allowed the NAF to let off some pressure, and showed-up how the Ukrainians are not in control of themselves, and do not respect the efforts toward any peace.
To be fair it seems to me that the Kiev Regime (and by extent the hole edifice of it’s Empire-of-Chaos backers) are not able to work toward their own long term interests. Like a fire that must burn everything and rush on the day when it will finally run out of fuel.
Nora,
There is heaps of dirt on Zakharchenko, but how much is true is the question. Here is one place to start:
http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2014/09/09/deputy-chief-of-staff-naf-resigns-calls-zakharchenko-corrupt/
But what I was referring to was on Twitter and in Russian. Anyway, many say he is Surkov’s guy, with a place in Sochi and that he has an unsavory past, with things like beating his wife. Of course, the Ukraine is so corrupt, one can imagine that police charges could just be shakedowns. There was supposedly an attempt on his life a few days ago, and he might have a health emergency in Sochi before too long. He is about as far from Nasrallah as you can get.
If you can’t see Akhmetov’s and Surkov’s hands all over things, you aren’t looking hard. However, that really doesn’t answer who Surkov is the bagman for, and what it is that the Kremlin thinks can be achieved with its maneuvers. Maybe they just want things frozen for a couple of months, so that Winter will get closer, and the economy will get worse in Kiev.
A video of what seems to be a drunk Poroshenko bragging how he tricked Putin into giving up Mariupol:
http://linkis.com/youtu.be/C217A
The ceasefire has been a catastrophe for Novorossiia.
But the real catastrophe was the signature of the Minsk protocol, a document of surrender to the Kiev junta, signed by Zakharchenko & Plotnitskii. Such a document shd _never_ have been signed; it represents Putin’s Munich, since he apparently pushed its conclusion. To borrow a phrase from WSC: Putin had a choice between shame and war. He chose shame but he will get war too.
Brad Cabana reporting that NAF is abandoning positions west of Mariupol, lifting siege. A “deal in the dark” appears to be manifesting between Russia and Ukraine.
Elsewhere, Poroshenko has apparently bragged about having cheated Putin with regard to Mariupol.
In return to these bowing gestures, Poroshenko will introduce a law to give “special status” to the two oblasts.
Cynics suspect that the special status is likely to include very high rates of intimidation, political assassinations and disappearances. Russia is assumed to be embarking on long term strategic planning so that Novorussia will begin to bloom 15-20 years down the road.
Another version of what Saker said about the quality of troops suddenly increasing by an impressive amount. But recruits can not be trained in a few months and show the kind of tactical execution we saw in the last month, They already needed to have been trained and only needed an upgrade in tactical operations. It takes quite a bit of experience to fire artillery or rockets accurately as we can see the Israeli’s even after years of training miss half the time.
varvara said:
Recently, there’s been all sort of brouhaha in the Western media about a notional Russian invasion of Novorossiya. Nothing could be further from the truth.
It was units made up of ex-Ukrainian Army personnel who rallied to Russia in the Crimea.
Now, what happened to those guys? Well, Admiral Berezovsky, the former commander of the Ukrainian Navy is now a deputy commander of the ChF-MF… many of the Berkutovtsy are now in the OMON… it’s apparent that Russians formed up the army soldiers into units under their own ex-Ukrainian officers, intensively trained them to bring them up to Russian standards, and the Russians sent them back home to finish off the junta.
All of the equipment sent was from former Ukrainian Army stocks…
The former Ukrainian Army personnel now serving in the VSN are superior to the ragtag junta forces… they’re long-service troops.
There’s no notional “Russian invasion”… there are professional troops waxing the asses of half-assed volunteers. After all, there’s been two purges of the officer corps by the junta (another fact not reported in the Western media)… no army does well after such an exercise.
http://02varvara.wordpress.com/2014/09/09/9-september-2014-the-russian-invasion-why-thats-crank-bs-and-the-real-deal-behind-the-vsn-offensive/
The Novorossyans freedom fighters must take Mariupol as soon as possible.
They must not allow the Kiev Junta to regroup and build up their defenses.
You do not capitulate when you have the advantage.
If Putin does not understand that, he is then not worth his leadership.
I do not see anything wrong in bashing heads of state, they answer to the people, they are not God.
Mulga,
Have you ever been passed by a drunk driver on the highway and watched what happened next?
He’s way up ahead of you now, having careened through a whole bunch of cars strewn all over the place and you’re up on a rise watching him cross the median and head right into the head of a line going the other way. It’s like it’s in slow motion but you damned well know they’ll hit head on; they can’t not.
And all you can do is watch from a distance and pray that as many innocents as possible will come out of it okay.
There are ceasefire violations and there are ceasefire violations. The Turks and the Greeks have been violating the ceasefire on Cyprus since 1974 by exchanges of fire, which changed nothing for the Northern Cyprus Greek refugees or their destroyed and abandoned villages and cities and churches converted into Mosques. US backed Turkey with their US supplied tanks and equipment still hold 48% of the island and the US navy still uses the northern port of Kirenia as a replenishment stop for it’s submarines.
A real ceasefire violation would be an offensive by the Greek Cypriots to take back half of their country, but they haven’t had the b.lls to do it in 40 years.
If you are going to settle for one third of one fifth of ‘novorussiya’ which is what Bro. Poroshenko says is the deal, and Bro. Lavrov and Putin don’t disagree with so far, then you guys are not going to fare much better with than the Greek Cypriots. And if you let the OSCE in to control the border, you might as well close up shop.
The Ukrainians are not going to withdraw their forces from the stop line, the Turks never did, they are in the exact same places they were when the ceasefire came into effect. Exact same places.
Anonymous 09:07,
It would be so wonderful if things only were boring right about now! But in line with what you said, someone yesterday (I forget whom and can’t find the URL) mentioned that the NAF are now being accused of harboring Russian Neo-Nazis. Another one of those lovely phrases like Islamofascism that work so well on the brainwashed masses — yay war! They’re sure falling for it here.
to dear saker,
thank you for all these great posts today, I doubt that anyone of your followers was the least bit annoyed,
keep up the wonderful work that you do,
& especially, do not doubt yourself & don’t let any criticism sting, we here in oz rely & depend on you & your interlocutors,
VICTORY to novorossiya,
VICTORY to russia,
kindest,
jg
Re “Are you suggesting that if more countries simply refuse to pay, the whole house of cards collapses — the financial equivalent of the emperor having no clothes? Because of course if the dollar crashes then NATO goes belly-up too, right? … So maybe Putin — while necessarily improvising — is also buying time for us to weaken and the pieces …”
Basically this has had the effect accelerating the de-dollarization of the world economy and actually strengthened the alternative BRIC multi-polarism. Putin has been a stickler for international law for this reason, I believe, it also happens to be the practical path to Russia making a place in a new Eurasian trading bloc. Being the crossroad national bloc (+ Kazakhstan).
Putin does not have to be a genius or a saint, he just has to read history’s script.
NATO and the IMF are way overstretched. The US economy has already collapsed along with the UK (both are now beyond self-recovery). Once the USD goes international debts dissolves, the US money printing becomes useless overnight and the petro-dollar dissolves.
NATO is expensive and a security liability. The Baltic states are economically unsustainable in fact bankrupt (they have to trade with Russia just to survive it is a geographical necessity). Europe needs Russian energy, sheap without incurring USD debts, it also needs to sell into Russia, Asia and the Middle East and it needs to use its own capital reserves (by state deficits) to get back to strength (virtually banned in order to force Europe to borrow from the US to expand its economy rather then flow to Wall Street).
In this sense they all go at once a chronic failure happens any of the parts; military power (a NATO crisis,a serious military setback), IMF lending (a serious default), Political prestige (US get blindsided by Russia and China — ie the Shanghai Cooperation Organization), or Europe grows a set, maybe on the streets or even in the coming EU parliamentary session.
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And strangely Novorussia has become something of the Paris Commune of the age, national liberation writ small, but with a little peace perhaps producing an economy that is healthy pointer to what we all should be doing.
Sorry for the long missive. It is a kind of step back approach, away from the crisis geographically and temporally, where an eye on the past and future makes the immediate more understandable — of course it may not end well, the USD will go, but just how and exactly when makes fools of any oracle.
Greg Schofield said…@ 10 September, 2014 03:37
Encourage gluttons to eat.
Action perceived as inaction or reaction encourages the opponents to eat.
I take it as proven that Zakharchenko, Antiufeev, Plotnitsky and the staffs they brought with them are traitors. They were appointed by Surkov (if we want to leave Putin himself out of this, so that his greatest sin is his inexplicable negligence). Their job is to liquidate the Novorossian armed forces. Obviously they can’t do this head-on. So how do they do it? They orchestrate a great defeat, that smashes and cripples the armies. The main target is the army of the DNR. The strategy is divide and conquer. It’s obvious, really. All they have to do is let the junta forces break through at Telmanova, where the Novorossians are stretched thinnest:
http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/
The Separatists have noticed that Ukies broke the ceasefire, and I think Russia knows it as well! But everyone is waiting for the others to start first, to bear the guilty of it. EU and US “have already prepared” the next sanctions: the plan was organized in Nato, but I read that Putin said “we do not know when the Ukrainian crisis will end”. It will be war again on a larger scale!
A must read: When is a debt an “Odious Debt”?
There is this gem from Prof. Michael Hudson’s piece:
The IMF’s New [Cold] War Loan to Ukraine
In April 2014, fresh from riots in Maidan Square and the February 22 coup, and less than a month before the May 2 massacre in Odessa, the IMF approved a $17 billion loan program to Ukraine’s junta. Normal IMF practice is to lend only up to twice a country’s quote in one year. This was eight times as high.
Four months later, on August 29, just as Kiev began losing its attempt at ethnic cleansing against the eastern Donbas region, the IMF signed off on the first loan ever to a side engaged in a civil war, not to mention rife with insider capital flight and a collapsing balance of payments. Based on fictitiously trouble-free projections of the ability to pay, the loan supported Ukraine’s hernia currency long enough to enable the oligarchs’ banks to move their money quickly into Western hard-currency accounts before the hernia plunged further and was worth even fewer euros and dollars.[.]
[.]The IMF’s Articles of Agreement forbid it to make loans to countries that clearly cannot pay, prompting its economists to complain at last year’s October 2013 annual meeting in Washington that their institution was violating its rules[.]
[John] Helmer’s Dances with Bears calculates that “of the $3.2 billion disbursed to the Ukrainian treasury by the IMF at the start of May, $3.1 billion had disappeared offshore by the middle of August.”[4] This raises the question of whether the IMF’s loan is legally an “odious debt,” being made to a military junta and stolen by government insiders. The IMF acknowledged that the central bank was simply turning money over to the kleptocrats who run the country’s banks as part of their conglomerates (as well as funding the government’s military attack on the East, largely on behalf of the leading kleptocrats behind the Maidan coup).[.]
A defeat in war frequently leads to regime change. The spectre of a coup is once again roaming the streets and squares of Kyiv. Surviving National Guard fighters are threatening to turn their weapons on Poroshenko. A third Maydan [Independence Square protest movement] is taking shape, which is to sweep aside the present regime. The instigators of this Maydan are militants from the punitive battalions created with Kolomoyskyy’s money.
(highlights added)
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do read the full article as Prof Hudson cites those promoting that the UK parliament should pass a law negating Kiev’s bonds that are due Russia as they can be classified as an odious debt —
and its likely repercussions.!!?!!
Epochal.
We 99%-ers, the great unwashed, may take up the precedent: declare our mortgages; car loans, credit card balances at 20% as just odious debts.
Enjoy
AM
wow, it is one of the best analysis of the current situation, i think it deserves translation…at least, put it into automatic translation if nothing else..
http://www.newrussiannews.ru/archives/5047
http://amfora.livejournal.com/121146.html
Saker, Heads Up!
Gleb’s blog has a serious mocking challenger ripping your analysis of the Minsk Protocols situ.
Saker Challenged
Gleb was apoplectic when it went down. Now, he’s offering this weak mockery of your position.
Hope your friendship isn’t strained by this.
He does great work, but lost his mind to his heart over the Protocols.
Because there are a lot of talk and misunderstanding about the actual reasons of the Ukraine civil war, therefore let’s put a few things clear about what has been happening.
1. There is such thing as bad oligarchs (USA) dumb oligarchs (EU) and good and clever oligarchs (Russia) and their public face (Obama, Hollande, Putin). All of them are in the same game, squeeze peoples works in their own benefit.
2. Why the Ukraine oligarchs have been taking side with the western oligarchs?
Very easy, the western oligarchs rule the system, they own the IMF, Financial system (SWIFT, VISA….), Internet, Sea lines, Food industry…..
Russia oligarchs and Russia state is just collateral to the system. They don’t have any weight in the real centers of power IMF, World Bank. Russia by any advance capitalist standards (USA, Germany, japan and even China) is a backward country with backward infrastructure and technology, production system. The space program and military hardware are just a drop in the ocean.
3. Why the oligarchs use fascist gangs to take the power?
The EU Oligarchs need them to squeeze the working population after they take Ukraine assets for free (Steel mills, shipyards, coal mines, crops…..) to have profits in world market with shrinking profits. The USA oligarchs need them for the same and to have a cheap militar control over the population for the future military installations.
4. What happened just after the oligarch and fascist cup?
A huge popular rebellion against this complot, Odessa, Jarkov and Donbass have been witness of a huge popular uprising against such plan, this was a rebellion of the people for the people. Due the lack of political and military leadership the rebellion was suppress in most of the country but not in Lugansk and Donets.
Together with this rebellion, Russia took advantage of the anarchical situation in Ukraine post cup to take back Crimea with the support of the Crimean population.
5. Even though the bravery and military skills of the Eastern Ukraine people, the lack of political leadership in Lugansk and Donets with clear economic and political goals persists and is a drag in their struggle, what makes this regions and their people a very easy target for Russia oligarch’s opportunism and Ukraine oligarch deceived tactics.
6. Now the Ukraine army, fascist gangs, EU, USA and Ukraine oligarchs have learn their lesson, they smell the danger of what a defeat can means for them. They are more united and willing to achieve victory than ever, of course the army and fascist gangs want more money in exchange for their sacrifices.
7. The EU and USA will resupply the Ukraine army and fascist gangs with new and better weapons, training and advisors. This is a civil war not a weekend picnic and they are willing to destroy and kill everything that is in front of their goals. Probably soldiers from Poland, Croatia, and Baltic states…. will fill the ranks of the Ukraine army, besides tanks and equipment and a new air force with planes from this countries will be created to achieve air superiority.
8. Ukraine oligarchs leadership (Poroshenko or other) will not fall no matter what hardships the Ukraine people has to support this winter whit or without Russian gas. It has to be overthrow.
9. The question is, What the Donbass rebellion leadership will do?
Because there is a lot of talk and misunderstanding about the actual reasons of the Ukraine civil war, therefore let’s put a few things clear about what has been happening.
1. There is not such thing as bad oligarchs (USA) dumb oligarchs (EU) and good and clever oligarchs (Russia) and their public face (Obama, Hollande, Putin). All of them are in the same game, squeeze peoples works in their own benefit.
2. Why the Ukraine oligarchs have been taking side with the western oligarchs?
Very easy, the western oligarchs rule the system, they own the IMF, Financial system (SWIFT, VISA….), Internet, Sea lines, Food industry…..
Russia oligarchs and Russia state is just collateral to the system. They don’t have any weight in the real centers of power IMF, World Bank. Russia by any advance capitalist standards (USA, Germany, japan and even China) is a backward country with backward infrastructure and technology, production system. The space program and military hardware are just a drop in the ocean.
3. Why the oligarchs use fascist gangs to take the power?
The EU Oligarchs need them to squeeze the working population after they take Ukraine assets for free (Steel mills, shipyards, coal mines, crops…..) to have profits in world market with shrinking profits. The USA oligarchs need them for the same and to have a cheap militar control over the population for the future military installations.
4. What happened just after the oligarch and fascist cup?
A huge popular rebellion against this complot, Odessa, Jarkov and Donbass have been witness of a huge popular uprising against such plan, this was a rebellion of the people for the people. Due the lack of political and military leadership the rebellion was suppress in most of the country but not in Lugansk and Donets.
Together with this rebellion, Russia took advantage of the anarchical situation in Ukraine post cup to take back Crimea with the support of the Crimean population.
5. Even though the bravery and military skills of the Eastern Ukraine people, the lack of political leadership in Lugansk and Donets with clear economic and political goals persists and is a drag in their struggle, what makes this regions and their people a very easy target for Russia oligarch’s opportunism and Ukraine oligarch deceived tactics.
6. Now the Ukraine army, fascist gangs, EU, USA and Ukraine oligarchs have learn their lesson, they smell the danger of what a defeat can means for them. They are more united and willing to achieve victory than ever, of course the army and fascist gangs want more money in exchange for their sacrifices.
7. The EU and USA will resupply the Ukraine army and fascist gangs with new and better weapons, training and advisors. This is a civil war not a weekend picnic and they are willing to destroy and kill everything that is in front of their goals. Probably soldiers from Poland, Croatia, and Baltic states…. will fill the ranks of the Ukraine army, besides tanks and equipment and a new air force with planes from this countries will be created to achieve air superiority.
8. Ukraine oligarchs leadership (Poroshenko or other) will not fall no matter what hardships the Ukraine people has to support this winter whit or without Russian gas. It has to be overthrow.
9. The question is, What the Donbass rebellion leadership will do?
FWIW I find this new English language web site which debunks USA media lies about Ukraine and Russia to be very useful:
Russia Insider: politics and news
Just a quickie update. It would seem as if the false narrative has been lost here in Canuckistan to a great degree and the absolute silence re: Ukraine in almost deafening on-air and online It’s almost like “someone” needs this epic fail to drop from the radar while “they” desperately seek to rewrite the next chapters. There have been pretty much zero mentions about anything, save a few short spins related to the MH17 debacle. This mornings CBC has zero “articles” thus far and zero can be found within the “headline” feeds and no mentions via the Network broadcast. The spin piece re: MH17 did not make a dent in supporting the “official” false narrative, nor did the “article” about the RF buzzing the CDN warship in the Black Sea. If one were to review the comment threads, with the exception of the trolls that stick out like a sore thumb now, the general sentiment is shifting further away from the Harper Regime’s war-mongering rhetoric vs the RF.
Since the cease fire was broke by the Ukies so quickly, it would seem as if the focus is desperate to shift all-balls-in towards the IS/ISIS/ISIL “threat” bs. Yesterday there was a poll about CDN forces engaging in Iraq yesterday and it was 75%+ opposed. Oddly the Harper Regime and the controlled Opposition are synchronizing towards further engagement anyway.
It is noteworthy that Parliament has been off all summer and set to resume next week so all actions re: Ukraine and IS have been hammered through by the Regime without the consulting of the Opposition or populous. One it reconvenes we may see some fireworks begin to explode against the Regime from some wicks that were lit before the summer recess was called. Things shall get very interesting this fall for the war party, their Loyalists and apologists, especially since their utterly failed domestic, economic and foreign policies are coming to light and can no longer be concealed or spun. In much the same way as the rest of the failing Empire appendages, they desperately need their war to cover their corruption and looting of our economy and Treasury that only favours the shorts and foreign speculative investors. What remains to be seen is if the, thus far controlled, Opposition will continue playing along with the 5-Eyes/NATO games or actually push back as most Canuckians are demanding…
Godspeed Novorossiya and Scotland!
DumpHarper!
Paul II,
My problem is, I *don’t know enough* to detect the workings/supporters/etc. of one oligarch from another! So it’s not a matter of looking hard, it’s more just not yet being able to recognize the forces and factors behind what I’m seeing: doggone it, who belongs to whom? Whenever I try to think any of this through, I feel like I’m driving half-blindfolded!
Can you provide a primer on the various players and factions? I’m hardly the only one who would benefit from it: I’m just the one who keeps complaining that she needs it. ;~)
Larchmonter,
Just scooted over there. Whoever it was sounded like he was crying over his beer mumbling something about some woman or another…
Well, okay, vodka maybe.
I figure Saker can handle it. ;~)
Mainly concerning Azov .Interest to some as balance/balast?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
ok ,its the guardian,never mind.
XbNB
Yatsenyuk’s, Avakov’s and Azov battalion’s new “National Front” political party excludes Poroshenko as well as Tymoshenko. New war party, brought to you by an oligarch named K.
“Besides, Poroshenko does not really control the Junta Repression Forces anyway and the local Nazis are ignoring his orders.”
Oligarchs like Kolomoisky have their own private battalions that have been killing people in Donbass.
An independent NR might morally (and for economic benefit) decide to nationalize the assets of such people as punishment for what they did to the local population.
So oligarchs like Kolomoisky might have an interest in using their private battalions to prevent peace.
Entire Cherkassy Punitive Battalion refuses to go to Donetsk, and deserts:
Бойцы батальона украинской армии «Черкассы» практически в полном составе покинули боевые позиции, об этом сообщает телеканал «Украина». С передовой под Донецком ушли около 400 бойцов. Они написали рапорты о том, что отказываются выполнять приказ высшего командования под Волновахой, поскольку не имеют соответствующего вооружения для отражения возможного наступления. Действия бойцов комндир батальона назвал «акцией неповиновения».
«Батальон получил нелепый и преступный приказ от командования, не имея другого вооружения, кроме стрелкового оружия и нескольких зенитных установок, выдвинуться в направлении Донецка и занять оборону впереди 72-й бригады ВСУ. Фактически безоружных черкашан, которые имеют вместо БТРов автобусы ПАЗ и грузовики ГАЗ производства тридцати-пятидесятилетней давности, выставляют в качестве живого щита впереди регулярных кадровых и хорошо вооруженных частей ВСУ», — сообщают родственники военнослужащих в Facebook.
«Техники у нас нет. Наша техника дана колхозами. Старая, никому не нужная, вся поломанная, ремонтируем за свой счет», – рассказал один из бойцов батальона «Черкассы». На
вооружении у бойцов находится лишь один БТР, несколько зениток и РПГ, передает телеканал «Украина». По словам самих солдат, при их вооружении «выступать против профессионально подготовленных российских войск – это верная смерть». Как говорится в рапортах, члены батальона не отказываются «защищать Украину», но требуют предоставить им соответствующее вооружение.
steve,
I finally took a look at that economic report — Dear. God. It’s hard to imagine what it would even take to put Humpty Dumpty together again, and that presumes of course both the resources and will to do so, neither of which appear to exist in any known quantity by the Junta’s handlers.
Wanton destruction: it’s what we do best.
So here’s my question yet again: what are all these damned oligarchs/warlords doing in response to all this wreckage, and who’s helping them out behind the scenes? Bc at the very least that ought to be factored in to all these over-emotional responses about Putin-as-Hero, Putin-as-Failed-Savior, ad nauseum. The man’s got to work with what is, and Novorossiya is only a small part of what’s on his plate world-wide, most of which is chugging along quite nicely, thankyewverymuch.
To my mind the big question at the moment is what happens when the Ukraine people realize they’ve been lied to about the casualties and their sons aren’t coming back.
This would explain the reluctance of Kiev on prisoner swaps.
As soon as NR gives back all their prisoners then Kiev has to say what really happened to all those thousands who are currently listed as missing.
It’s worth pointing out that because NR won on the battle field the neocon side will be doubling up their divide and rule propaganda.
Don’t believe.
Neutral observer here. I think I may have the lowdown on what’s really going on. If it’s true, it’s brilliant and both Gleb and Saker can finally take their chill pills.
When Putin and Poroshenko spoke last night, it was agreed that Poroshenko would, in accord with Amnesty International, start to arrest and prosecute volunteer Bn members who can be proven to have committed war crimes.
This is big.
It means that those units may have weakened enough by now for true Ukrainian democrats to fight them.
It seemed about to happen anyway because of all the reports that these people were “heading to Kiev to confront Poroshenko for bad wartime leadership”.
This would flip that script and give Poroshenko the initiative.
It would also put the Ukrainian Army in a position of being quasi-allied with the “Novorussian Army” and the Russians; if Right Sector declares war on Poroshenko, they will be declaring war on the Ukrainian Army. The latter will want help and get it.
In such a 3-way civil war, Poroshenko will have the advantage of knowing that his internal enemies won’t want to give up the Kharkov to Odessa band of land where rebels and would-be rebels are in large supply. Most will not want to leave the Donbass.
The official Ukraine media would, however, not report on fighting between the NAR and right sector. We see this already today and yesterday. Today the official Ukrainian media said that most of the Russian Army has left Donbass.
That is big.
It means cooperation with Russia against neo-nazis. We can be sure that the EU is going along with this as well.
And, because Obama simply won’t even deliver night vision goggles to Ukraine, not to mention Javelins, it’s possible that the USA wants Poroshenko to neutralize the nazi movement even if it means federalization in the end (local rebels will take the brunt of fighting anti-Poroshenko volunteer Bns).
What will Kolomoisky do? Does he represent Israel? Did he really capture the two titanium mines in Donbass?
Meanwhile Semen Semenchenko is confidently announcing that he will be running for office in the new parliament (as if he has a chance of getting a seat from the Donbass electorate in October).
For Andrew and AK and Auslander and others who follow things militarily in great detail:
I tracked this SitRep from Politikus to the source blog.
SitRep Battlefield Preparation
Predicts one last huge offensive against Novorossiya.
Details militia Army groups and leaders and size of units.
Very comprehensive.
Think about it. The only force that can guarantee Poroshenko’s survival is – the Russian Federation. Therefore, we may see CSTO peacekeepers enter Ukraine this winter. Something like that. Because coups and countercoups are being set up both in Kiev and Donetsk. And that’s not even including the real people’s revolution and always imminent NATO false flags.
New Hope: Zdjęcia na osi czasu – Polacy za Noworosją Поляки для Новороссии | Facebook
On Sep 6 in 3 major cities in Poland (Warszawa, Kraków, Lublin) about 100 people held a demo in support of Novorossiya
Fresh exclusive interview of Igor Strelkov’s aid Igor Druz for Neyromir TV on his recent meeting with Igor Strelkov:
1. The “ceasefire” has been salvation to the junta.
2. Mariupol was on the verge of liberation, but the “ceasefire” snatched it back for the junta.
3. The provisions of the Minsk Protocol are disgraceful.
4. The Protocol was co-signed by Kuchma, a private person whose signature means nothing. It has no binding power for the junta.
5. The Protocol does not recognize the people’s republics for they are not even mentioned under their names.
6. This also means that even the leaders of the people’s republics which signed the Protocol also signed it as private persons for their authority as leaders of the people’s republics was not recognized.
7. Strelkov would never consent to signing anything of this kind.
8. The Protocol was signed mainly under Russia’s pressure.
9. The Protocol reflects approach to the conflict as business—oligarchic business.
10. The Protocol is undermining Putin’s own position.
11. Patriots don’t have the luxury to lie.
12. Ukraine under the junta has been designed as chaos meant to break Russia apart. This chaos has not been overcome.
[13. The Russian government seems to be so far very far away from uderstanding what the nation already knows in its heart and soul–that this is for Russia a patriotic war. An ostrich cannot win a war against hyenas.]
14. Russian Maidan is in the pipeline on the part of the same forces that brought Maidan in Kiev. Perhaps as early as in the next sixth months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUZWyPvgOq0
Fresh exclusive interview of Igor Strelkov’s aid Igor Druz for Neyromir TV on his recent meeting with Igor Strelkov:
1. The “ceasefire” has been salvation to the junta.
2. Mariupol was on the verge of liberation, but the “ceasefire” snatched it back for the junta.
3. The provisions of the Minsk Protocol are disgraceful.
4. The Protocol was co-signed by Kuchma, a private person whose signature means nothing. It has no binding power for the junta.
5. The Protocol does not recognize the people’s republics for they are not even mentioned under their names.
6. This also means that even the leaders of the people’s republics which signed the Protocol also signed it as private persons for their authority as leaders of the people’s republics was not recognized.
7. Strelkov would never consent to signing anything of this kind.
8. The Protocol was signed mainly under Russia’s pressure.
9. The Protocol reflects approach to the conflict as business—oligarchic business.
10. The Protocol is undermining Putin’s own position.
11. Patriots don’t have the luxury to lie.
12. Ukraine under the junta has been designed as chaos meant to break Russia apart. This chaos has not been overcome.
[13. The Russian government seems to be so far very far away from uderstanding what the nation already knows in its heart and soul–that this is for Russia a patriotic war. An ostrich cannot win a war against hyenas.]
14. Russian Maidan is in the pipeline on the part of the same forces that brought Maidan in Kiev. Perhaps as early as in the next sixth months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUZWyPvgOq0
Fresh exclusive interview of Igor Strelkov’s aid Igor Druz for Neyromir TV on his recent meeting with Igor Strelkov:
1. The “ceasefire” has been salvation to the junta.
2. Mariupol was on the verge of liberation, but the “ceasefire” snatched it back for the junta.
3. The provisions of the Minsk Protocol are disgraceful.
4. The Protocol was co-signed by Kuchma, a private person whose signature means nothing. It has no binding power for the junta.
5. The Protocol does not recognize the people’s republics for they are not even mentioned under their names.
6. This also means that even the leaders of the people’s republics which signed the Protocol also signed it as private persons for their authority as leaders of the people’s republics was not recognized.
7. Strelkov would never consent to signing anything of this kind.
8. The Protocol was signed mainly under Russia’s pressure.
9. The Protocol reflects approach to the conflict as business—oligarchic business.
10. The Protocol is undermining Putin’s own position.
11. Patriots don’t have the luxury to lie.
12. Ukraine under the junta has been designed as chaos meant to break Russia apart. This chaos has not been overcome.
[13. The Russian government seems to be so far very far away from uderstanding what the nation already knows in its heart and soul–that this is for Russia a patriotic war. An ostrich cannot win a war against hyenas.]
14. Russian Maidan is in the pipeline on the part of the same forces that brought Maidan in Kiev. Perhaps as early as in the next sixth months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUZWyPvgOq0
Porky gets miltary aid from West including Israeli and Spanish missiles (flown in by the US).
http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=85189
Espina,
Just saw news of Clegg’s panic, in Selkirk no less…;~)
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140910/192812284/UK-Deputy-Prime-Minister-Says-He-Hopes-Britain-Not-Entering.html
Also too, the music at the end of that Bella Caledonia post was wonderful!
I wonder how much of Suchan’s anger at the Saker and AK is simply the professional academic’s offense at a non-academic daring to do his job without a PhD.
Hi, Saker, any comments on this? Statement: I B Ivanov, President of ROVC, former Deputy chief of the General Staff of the armed forces DND,
“the replacement of the team of quite professional and, of course, personally honest politicians and military, by people who are actually representatives of local crime and corruption…”?
Saker, hi. Wondering. With regard to the BBC “witnesses” who heard soldiers speaking with “Moscow” accents, I have a question. It’s my understanding that while there may be some slight regional differences, the Russian language is extraordinarily uniform across all regions, much more so than is English. The BBC “report” of the MH17 “witnesses” doesn’t say anything about how close these “witnesses” were to the soldiers they “saw”. I believe that they are not reliable witnesses, shall we say, but I am wondering: How close to someone would you have to be to hear a difference in accent on the pronunciation of r (geh)? I’m wondering because these “witnesses” seem sort of tailor-made for an English speaking audience and noted a different geographical accent for our benefit because an English-speaking audience is accustomed to and takes for granted VERY noticeable differences in regional dialect and regional accent, especially in places like England, where the accents differ practically from county to county, and in the USA, where we have very distinct regional accents that imprint someone’s geographical origin in their speech. I understand there is nothing like this in Russian. I’m wondering how noticeable or subtle is a Moscow accent to a Ukrainian Russian speaker and how close does one have to be to notice this accent? Aren’t there also Ukrainian Russian speakers who speak with the central Russian accent, who may be from Russia originally or who may speak with that accent simply because the language is so standardized? I’m curious as a beginner Russian speaker and as a very amateur linguist. ;) The fact that the MH17 witnesses mentioned a Moscow accent struck me as, shall we say, peculiar, because I had been given to understand that there are some slight differences in Russian accents, but overall the language is very uniform, so their comments seemed suspect to me in that regard and I’m wondering if I’m insane because their credibility fell apart for me at that point.
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/5/did_major_countries_agree_not_to
1. Why are the Dutch and Malaysian families not screaming bloody murder over this travesty.
2. Is it wrong to think that Russian Secret Service don’t have the same listening devices to monitor Kiev gov’t entities like Air Traffic Control.
3. What happened to the Spanish ATC worker. Is he dead alive in jail?
to Anon.
“Ukies are punching back, hard. See the link in russian about Kolomiski taking both and only titanium refineries … for free.
The is the only source or raw titanium for Russia.”
ahhh google Titanium and you will find producers and refineries in Russia.
…and the Urals are full of Titanium.
the West has more to worry about than RU. It has been stockpiling the stuff since the UE crisis, Boeing and Airbus eg.
the production facilities are in central UE. I would be very surprised if he gets any of the metal out of the country. Assuming he has the gas to refine it. :)
Slightly off topic
In the newest installment of promotion of global kaka, the New Scientist claims that the idea of nations is *scientifically* unsound.
“Nation states cause some of our biggest problems, from civil war to climate inaction. Science suggests there are better ways to run a planet”
Did you hear that? Science suggests. It’s scientific. How can you argue with that?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329850.600-end-of-nations-is-there-an-alternative-to-countries.html?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=SOC&utm_campaign=hoot&cmpid=SOC|NSNS|2013-GLOBAL-hoot
Dear Saker. Interesting lead item in ITAR/TASS today, http://itar-tass.com/obschestvo/1432927, about President Putin visiting the Church of the Holy Trinty (храм Живоначальной троицы) in the Sparrow Hills in Moscow (near MGU I’d guess), lighting a candle for “those that suffered defending the people of Novorossiya”. The action speaks for itself.
As an American, I find it exceedingly difficult to get objective dispassionate reportage and analyiss of the situation there.
Please keep your reports and opinion pieces coming fast and furious. They are invaluable.