Putin’s recent speech to the Federal Assembly contained two part: a foreign policy part which was nothing short of historical, and an internal economics part which was very disappointing to say the least. In fact, I would say that it was outright frightening. I won’t post the full text here, but you can consult if for yourself by clicking here. But here is my summary of Putin’s message:
We will make every effort to aid the Russian business community, we will also make every effort to return much of the Russian money hidden abroad in offshore accounts, and we will create stability and predictability. All this is fine and dandy, except for what was not said.
- Putin did not denounce the work of the Russian Central Bank or its Chairwoman.
- Putin did not promise to sell US bonds and bring Russian money back home.
- Putin did not sack a single Russian official for incompetence or, even less so, sabotage
- Putin did not announce a major change in the status of the Ruble, no “golden Ruble” for example.
- Putin did not reject the western economic model.
- Putin announce no reform or taking over by the state of the Russian Central Bank.
- Most importantly, Putin did not announce any major change in economic policy
I have no way of knowing whether Putin sincerely believe in the western economic dogmas, of whether he has no other option than to pretend that he does, but the outcome is the same: Putin rejects the western political model while apparently still fully endorsing its economic model.
I have just listening to an interview of Mikhail Khazin and Evegnii Feodorov on the Russian New Service Radio and both of them are now openly sounding the alarm. Khazin is demanding that the Director of the Russian Central Bank be fired and arrested, while Feodorov wants the Central Bank to be completely shut down. I agree with both.
The Russian economy in general and the Ruble especially are both under direct attack, not only by official sanctions, but also by speculative operations. The price of oil is collapsing probably under a combination of objective reasons (the world recession) and deliberate US operations, yet Putin is not changing economic course in a fundamental way and he is even complimenting the Central Bank for its activities. Does that not remind you of something?
Personally, this reminds me of what happened during the last months of Anatolii Serdiukov when the Russian military was hit by one scandal after another, yet Putin continued to praise Serduikov and his work. Eventually, of course, Serdiukov was sacked and replaced by the truly outstanding Shoigu, but it took a lot of time and efforts to finally get him sacked (and even today Serdiukov has still not been sentenced by any court for his numerous criminal activities).
Does that mean that Putin is hesitant, weak or confused?
I don’t think so. I think that this shows that one of the most difficult and dangerous tasks for Putin is to get rid of the saboteurs in the top echelons of power. The same Mikhail Khazin has recently declared that only now did the “Eurasian Sovereignist” group’s power roughly match the one of the pro-US “Atlantic Integrationists” (though he did not quite use these expressions which are mine).
Hopefully Putin is setting up a Serdiukov-like sacking of Nabiulina, but this is not sure at all. The pressure is mounting for him to take dramatic action and to finally begin to de-couple the Russian economy from the western economic orthodoxy known as the Washington Concensus, but there is also a lot of resistance.
This is right now by far the biggest threat to Russia and Putin: the 5th column of saboteurs in the top echelons of power, especially the government. As long as these people will remain in power Russia will continue to remain weak and fragile and very susceptible to western economic warfare.
The Saker
@Amerikanski:Russia has had little to do with this region which is the old Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Well, to be honest there were Tsars with imperial ambitions: Peter I, Nicholas I. But they were the exception, not the rule. Soviet leaders were imperialists ideologically (Marxist world revolution) but pragmatically they were much more cautious, bordering on paranoia except for their paranoia was fully justified since the other Empires sure were out there to beat down and dismember the Soviet Union. There are some Russian ideologues with were pro-empire, for sure, including Dostoevsky and Solonevich, but I don’t think that imperial ambitions have much tractions in Russia. At least by 2014 I would say that the overwhelming majority of Russians want Russia to be a prosperous and strong, but *NORMAL* country and that they would hate to be put in charge of an Empire again.
As for Russia’s neighbors, they should realize that what Russia wants is to be surrounded by peaceful and prosperous countries to do business when, to visit for tourism and to have mutually beneficial relations with. All that talk about a “Russian threat” is utter nonsense.
My 2cts,
The Saker
Hello Saker,
Please, give Putin some slack ! Rome was not built in one day ! One thing at the time! Each and every one of us want him to act a certain way, believing we do hold the solution. Yet at the end Putin has always excelled our expectations. The last coup is the cancellation of South stream and the birth of the turk stream. Even the US did not see it coming. What a move ! Besides knocking out the EU, it brings mayhem to the NATO block. Meanwhile in Germany, Merkel is been called a traitor to german and european interests and some eurocrats understand now that Ukraine is the Danaid’s barrel. Contrary to us, Putin sees the whole picture. Remember, he is a ex- KGB officer, a chess player and a 8 dan judoka ! Instead of cursing him, we should pray for him before going to sleep so he follows the right direction to put this evil down.
By “Germanic”, I did not mean — or only mean — today’s Germany. There was more than one Germanic empire. Today, there is no German empire, although, the EU I believe will not survive unless the Germans (in today’s Germany) accept their hegemonic position in the EU.
A few months ago I was reading an EU website which had a forum. The question under discussion was “What does being a European mean to you”.
The majority of the comments were similar to this: I’m an Italian European, a German European.
I posted a comment asking what was the language of this European identity, this new ethnicity, and why are you all posting in English? What is a “culture”, “values”, and a “people” without their own language to express these beliefs and sentiments?
No responses. The discussion died. Although, while I was writing a Hungarian posted in Magyar…it could have been, as well, a Romanian or a
Slovak…anyone, posting in their birth-language, and simultaneously making my point.
It seems the western Europeans, and the Germanic people, have offshored their language needs of their new ethnicity.
Here’s food for thought regarding the EU.
In the last half of the 19th century in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Hungary and, in a curious way, Croatia were independent kingdoms, sovereign nations…except they couldn’t have control their currency, could not have a foreign policy, and could not compete in international commerce with the Empire. Sound familiar?
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics_business/2014/12/09/02-49-26am/ruble_now_truly_floating
I think you will find that Putin knows exactly what he is doing. Just putting into action the programme he outlined to the nation in his recent address.
Pertinent to earlier links and comments vis-a-vis gold:
Vested interests,talk the book,or promote the blog,concerning a gold standard or gold exchange standard.
Under a gold standard bankers keep the gold,we get paper debt via loans and mortgages.
This system is only possible while there are new countries to rape and pillage,aka growth by Empire.
The gold exchange standard existed as a state monetary system which ended….but..we still have a gold exchange system,however instead of the state redeeming paper obligations,we use bullion dealers to buy coin,or bar, with the fiat paper currency which is only an IOU which has been reneged upon many times.
A final point that I made recently in another post on this blog..
So called gold bugs always talk in terms of ounces held.
Historically many countries used small coins e.g. Solidus,Dinar,or the silver Dinarius,Dirham.
If one gets a surplus of fiat one can buy a British gold sovereign @ 7 grams(around 910/1000 fine)they are available free of delivery cost locally at appx 200 GBP now.
Available in 1/4,1/2 sizes,at a premium of course & 1/2oz,1oz in silver are also available.
This is a perfectly effective gold/silver exchange standard,the Chinese & Indians know it,Russians needs to wake up(!!),if they have disposible income spend in fiat & save in the precious metals.
Caveat Emptor!.
Alien Tech said, “bob kay , what you are saying is that the next generation of indians would be the richest people on the planet… Considering there is over 22000 tons of gold held by individuals in india”
India has a bright future. Millions of third world nobodies will be able to afford education, medical care, and food for their children. They understand gold is inter-generational wealth, which survives famine, revolution, and theft by government manipulation of the unit of account. Fiat currency has tremendous value as the means of transaction and the measure of value. These money functions are short term and necessary for an economy to function. However, savings of individuals or nations must have a wealth reserve which cannot be easily created or manipulated. Gold serves this function very well in India and now more in China. Value will flow from those who save in UDS denominated paper to those poor Indians who save in grams of gold.
I wouldnt worry too much about president Putin. I believe his choices are being guided by what native Americans call the Great Spirit and will continue to be, by the way it might come as a surprise to many that native Americans are related to Russians going back centuries. I remember there was an article in the Telegraph newspaper I think about it a while back.
The poodle of the empire is due any minute now in Turkey no doubt to try and cajole or threaten Erdogan out of the pipeline deal with Russia. The empire doesnt want to appear to be involved so it sends UK prime minister Cameron instead to have a word with Erdogan.
Of particular interest to me was the part of president Putins speech where he said that the ABM defence in Europe was dangerous for the US itself, because “it conveys a false sense of invulnerability” to the US. Say no more.
Part I:
Dear Saker and friends,
It really boggles my mind when people start questioning the Chinese economic miracle of the past three decades or so.
The arguments put forth by the China naysayers can be divided into two broad categories: a) Left-wing dogmatism. b) Libertarian or western dogmatism.
Let me begin with the arguments of the leftists against China and her biblical economic progress:
a) The Chinese proletariat are getting paid very little and ruthlessly exploited for this growth to be possible.
b) There is massive inequality in Chinese society.
c) The miracle is going to run out of steam any moment (have been reading this from leftists for more than a decade now)
d) China is fully dependent on foreign (mainly US inward investment) and exports to the rich world.
The brief replies to the above false arguments:
a) While it is true that the market system is always exploitative (initial socialism will also have to be exploitative by the way, how else are the surpluses for further investment going to be produced?) We have to be able to make a critical distinction here. The distinction between moralistic judgments over inequality, or the analytical critique of Marx of the capitalist system and the real world. Is the Chinese economic system exploitative? Definitely yes! Do we know of any other socio-economic arrangement that is not exploitative? Definitely not! The difference between the China of the last 35 years or so and any other country in the history of the planet however, is that China has managed a sustained and broad-based economic development at what has been neck-breaking pace. People forget that China was one of the ultra-poor countries of the planet (on a level with India and many African countries) a few decades back. People also forget than China is the most populous country on earth, which makes the task of development all the more grave and challenging. It is one thing for city-states-interntional ports-commercial centers like Hong Kong and Singapore to sustain rapid economic growth, and it is quite another for a country that has more people than North America, Europe, ex-USSR and Japan COMBINED!!! So yes, despite the exploitative nature of the Chinese economic system, the sacrifices of the Chinese people are not in vain. They have at least fostered progress that is simply unprecedented in the history of mankind, both in is pace and its extent.
b) There is massive inequality everywhere today unfortunately. Something that needs to change soon somehow, or Lenin will have the last laugh eventually.
c) Have been reading from both left-wing economists and liberal economists that the Chinese rate of growth is about to collapse any minute now. Claims like these have been circulating for decades now. They will eventually come true at some point in time, but I think you get my point.
Part II:
d) This is an exaggerated myth. China has always had its national champions who are growing by leaps and bounds in recent years. Sure there are many US, European, Japanese and Taiwanese corporations highly active in China but don’t for a minute think that this gives anyone any kind of leverage over China. These foreign corporations have massive operations in China not out of tender feelings towards that country, but because it is absolutely essential to their survival to be there. China is now the 2nd largest consumer market on the planet (number one in several sectors and the fastest growing as well) and is also far and away the world’s most dynamic industrial powerhouse. People seem to believe that the only thing that China has going for her is low wages. That is completely idiotic. As things stand now, most of the world’s population lives in countries were wages are lower than in China (especially its eastern regions) If low wages were enough to foster turbo-charged development, then India would have performed similarly to China, let alone countries like Pakistan or even the African continent. China is still going strong because is the only economy on the planet that combines several factors in the same place:
a) Relatively wages vis a vis the West. b) Ability to produce massive quantities. c) Massive availability of suppliers. d) Speed at which things can be produced and delivered at certain specifications. e) Infrastructure able to support the necessary complimentary activities. f) A gigantic domestic market (with even more gigantic prospects) from which no one can afford to lose out from.
g) A government and corporations that keep their word (looking at you EU and US)
h) A country that is impervious to western pressure (at least in her domestic affairs) or the pressure of financial speculators. (What Russia should be aiming at)
Now let me have a brief look at some libertarian arguments put forth against China. Of course some of the lefty arguments overlap with those of the libertarians, so I shall not duplicate them here:
a) China is an autocracy (what they say about Russia as well) or even a Communist dictatorship.
b) The Chinese economy is about to enter a serious crisis (I know I mentioned this before, but it always appears on the MSM press for ages now. These people have been getting China wrong all the time since 1978 basically)
Part III:
c) China doesn’t innovate. (Because they are an anti-individualistic communist dictatorship.
The brief replies:
a) If China is an autocracy, and India or Ukraine, or Georgia are democracies (as the western MSM like to claim) then give me “autocracy” every day of the week.
b) Let me provide a link in reply to this persistent inanity:
c) Another link here:http://ablog.typepad.com/keytrendsinglobalisation/2014/10/china-lacks-innovation-take-another-look.html
To return to a previous crucial point. The western corporations present in China have precisely zero leverage over its government. The Chinese have recently been clearly demonstrating this by fining virtually all foreign car manufacturers in China quite hefty sums (Italian, Japanese, German, American you name it) Anyone that tells you that Chinese operations can be replaced by someone else, or that foreign multinationals can simply pull out, needs their heads checked. Like I said before, no other economy on the planet can ever dream to match China on a grand variety of variables (quantity, speed, suppliers, infrastructure)
I will leave you with some telling statistics on Chinese economic power:
a) China is producing more automobiles than the US and Japan, COMBINED. In the year 2000, China was producing less than one tenth of what the other two did. In less than 13 years, China has surpassed them!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production
b) Between 2011 and 2013 China has consumed more concrete than the USA in the entire 20th century! http://t.co/AjoaT8srna
c) China is adding another India to the world economy every 2 years! http://t.co/kqFrqkfBJ3
d) China overtook the USA as the world’s top manufacturer back in 2010. American was numero uno since the early 1870s! The gap has only grown massively since then. http://ablog.typepad.com/keytrendsinglobalisation/2013/09/china-has-overtaken-the-us.html
The gap has only grown massively since then.
e) http://ablog.typepad.com/keytrendsinglobalisation/2014/08/deng-xiaoping-the-worlds-greatest-economist.html
f) China is responsible for 100% of global reduction of poverty on recent years. http://ablog.typepad.com/keytrendsinglobalisation/2013/11/china-world-poverty.html
g) Apple’s entire supply chain is based in China.
http://ablog.typepad.com/keytrendsinglobalisation/2014/10/the-changing-pattern-of-foreign-investment-in-china.html
The above article also dispels the persistent myth that China is still only a low wage sweatshop.
I can go with examples like this forever, but I advise anyone doubting the Chinese achievement, to actually look at some cold hard facts first.
[from Blue]
I had an important experience last night. There are wild kittens living in the gargage (I feed them), but one of them was in difficulty: a great mass of kitten poop had accumulated on here nether regions to the point where she could only waddle, was in great discomfort, and her normal functioning was impaired.
I brought her inside after she finally was tamed enough to allow it, and spent two hours with under under warm running water, and then got her dried off and warmed up before returning her th the garage.
This is reality. One must remain in contact with reality to understand the world and form judgements.
But much of the world is now composed of stories, and abstract narratives, ideology, myths, and strange theories. Retelling and changing — or deconstructing the stories often change our reality. To say ‘it’s just a wild kitten’, and ignore her would have changed my – and her — reality. Yet, it’s important to understand what is real so as to act properly.
I shall tell some stories:
Gold is of real value and our economy is based on it.
Bad story: you can’t eat gold. The mythical ‘value’ of all these things depends on the stories.
Russia has found an incredibly vast deposit of gold in the thawing tundra (or on it’s secret base on Mars). (As verifiable as the gold said to be in Fort Knox). Russia can switch to a gold standard any time and be fabulously wealthy.
The US is about to take over the world. Russia (or China, or Israel, or ?) is about to take over the world.
The kitten cares nothing about these things — she is happy to be able to walk normally again.
What story do you want to tell or believe? Everything here is story — it’s a blog. Posters compete and discuss to advance one story or another as being ‘real’. Putin’s speech is story. Perhaps largely real, or perhaps a move to change the reality by changing the memes and narrative, and peoples’ beliefs. Some mixture.
There are children in the US who are hungry, and people in Donbas who have been killed and maimed. All because of strange stories and myths about gold and money, and telling stories.
It’s is very difficult for me to sort it all out, and evaluate the stories. Today my thoughts return to the kitten, and that it was a good and moral thing for me to have cleaned her up, and that that was real — no story involved.
I can hope that Putin can clean up the rear end of the empire and world, so it doesn’t waddle, or stink so much, or die of the congestion. I hope he can destroy the myths and propaganda, and we can all get back to reality.
_Blue
To Anonymous said…
[from Blue]
Indeed, what we take as the real world is purely a mythical construction. That is what religion, institutions, scientific or otherwise paradigms, and economics, as built on ascribing value to some idea of object, is about. Can we do without them? naturally not, but we may come to learn to construe myths in terms of fairness rather than on abstractions, empathy rather than denial of the other and of ourselves. This would be a new reality, and a vital one, for that matter.
@ anon Mongoose
http://snbchf.com/global-macro/shale-oil-oil-sands/
This is a great link. Thank you very much.
@Anonymous said at 09 December, 2014 11:53,
Friend senior strategist,
Oh, please, do not be angry with us, we are amateurs and very ignorant, at least for my turn.
I see you develop a little some points you pointed in the other thread, but very little. For my part, you know I’m willing to learn, although my time is limited.
I did not understand very well what you were saying me at the end about “off-fishing”… is it possible that you are disappointed with my researching results, and you give me as hopeless case?…. Will you not give me more bait for fishing?
I defend myself well in the sea, dad was a sailor….
If you still want to teach me, I can think of some questions, but only do this (I must have dinner and go to bed soon):
For example, as the “roof” of Andropov .. what do you mean with “roof”? May be as a “protective platform/group”? A group of people trying lateral strategies to structural changes?
I must understand that this “roof” works long, start long ago and so it is a slow process and that goes on even when Andropov is no longer with us?
We tend to see Comrade Vladímir Vladímirovich as a solitary being, but precisely because the so convoluted Russian political landscape. It gives the feeling that no one can trust anyone but himself …. It must be very stressful to govern in such environment, although I understand that Comrade Vladimir Vladimirovich is trained to not get stressed….
We trust him, do not worry….
We are just ordinary people trying to understand and learn.
Be patient with us Mr. Professor!
Uvidimsya zavtra!
[from Blue]
Reality is often nasty stuff, and we use stories to try to live with it — or escape from it.
I just went out to feed the kittens. I was too late with the little one I cleaned up — she died, laying on the garage floor. Maybe she let me pick her up and bring her inside because she was so sick. I’m pretty bummed out now.
Sometimes nothing you do helps. But we can at least try and keep our intentions straight, and be honest.
———-
Poem to a Dead Kitten
Put the rubber mouse away,
Pick the spools up from the floor,
What was velvet shod, and gay,
Will not want them, any more.
What was warm, is strangely cold.
Whence dissolved the little breath?
How could this small body hold
So immense a thing as Death?
Sara Henderson Hay
It is easy to fall in love with Putin and declare him a hero because he is opposing the IMF and the World Bank. However, if Putin has his way, he will become America’s worst nightmare. Putin is under the control of the banksters at the highest level. The Bankers from Basel want World War III. Putin and Obama are merely pawns in the same scheme. What most of us do not realize is that there is the central banking cartel and then there are the people who really run finance on this planet. The central banks, such as the Federal Reserve, are merely mid-level managers which were created to serve a purpose. The coming conflict is about the preservation of central banking as an international element of control. The real power on this planet are above central banking and are pushing the world towards an eventual war of unification.
A subsequent World War III will wipe out all competing economies and out of chaos will come order, the New World Order. We are about to witness an old-fashioned cockfight while the real power brokers are sitting back and waiting for nature to take its course.
Saker, you might find this interesting. It’s directly related to your concerns, so please excuse the long-ish post.
Russia Insider has a puff piece up right now (from Salon magazine, I think) praising Henry Kissinger, the Washington Post, and Foreign Policy magazine. Apparently, they have thrown some crumbs of kind words towards Russia in the last few days. (Wow. How kind.)
A reader posted a well-researched comment with footnotes (!) to this story, showing that Kissinger, the Washington Post and Foreign Policy magazine were all parts of a CIA-CFR-Bilderberg nexus; WP and FP were proven Operation Mockingbird mouthpieces; Kissinger was intimately tied to the CFR, Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Jewish banks like Warburg (a Federal Reserve founder bank) and Lehman Brothers (now folded), Haliburton (Dick Cheney’s old firm), Blackstone Group (pure evil), Tim Geithner, and other stooges of the Committee of 300.
The poster ended by pointing out that Russia had awarded Kissinger an honorary doctorate, and the Russian Foreign Ministry has often invited Kissinger to Moscow in recent years. The poster said something like “Sometimes, I wonder if it’s all a game, and Putin is another player who follows the same rules, and he doesn’t really want to change the rules”. I.e. He’s spent so long trying to integrate with the West, and “join the club”. Which he has, to be fair.
The post was deleted within hours. Russia Insider are now trying to block any posts mentioning Kissinger, Foreign Policy, Washington Post and Kissinger Associates. It’s a bit hit-and-miss, but you have to use euphemisms or mis-spell the names to have a post go live. (I certainly did.)
Makes you think, given that Putin hasn’t taken the economic self-detrmination steps Russia needs and deserves. In many ways, he has been content to run Russia as a “plantation”.
It’s all enough to make you need an Advil.
You don’t need to make this post live, but watch out for RI. They may not be what they seem. I’m not an impressionable guy: I called you as ex-intelligence about six months before you ‘came out’ having worked in that area myself. Takes one to know one :-)
My neighbor, who has been in the States for 17 years, is from Rostov-on-Don. Her mother is staying with her for two months. We’re all Catholics, and our parish church is just around the corner.
We took Mom to Mass on Sunday. On the way there – it takes
about two minutes to walk there – we agreed that the war in Ukraine is very bad indeed. Very bad.
Then we attended Mass, took Holy Communion, and afterwards we went to our respective homes. We’re supposed to be invited for “Russian Tea” some time soon.
Mom is a retired pediatrician. She is 78 years old and looks about ten years older than an American woman of the same age. Simple arithmetic indicates what sorts of stress and nutritional deprivation she must have grown up with.
People talk, theorize and philosophize too much. We need to live together, worship together and stop obsessing over global power groups and banking cartels, over which have no influence and with which we have no contact.
If people are cut off from one another on a simple every day level bad things can indeed happen.
And so they are happening, and even worse seems likely. We’ll be lucky to get through next year with a whole skin – all of us.
Blue, thank you for the kitten story.
Well, as the old saying goes:
Freedom will not be had until the last zio-media propagandist is strangled with the entrails of the last bankster.
As for Putin, I wouldn’t fret too much. If he spelled out what he (and the people he represents) were going to do, he wouldn’t be Putin. He’d be…. ;)
вот так
Just as the Russians (communists) and Americans (republican capitalists), or so-called left and so-called right political parties are just two wings of the same bird, so have I oft suspected that Putin is not what he appears. Unless and until he dismantles the Russian Central Bank, then he is agent for the same AZ Money Power that is ensnaring contemporary civilisation. Personally, I would love to believe that he is both gifted and sincere, esp. in terms of representing classic European & Orthodox Christian values. But increasingly I fear that the seeming conflict between this approach – which appeals to healthy Russian loyalties – and the ‘freedom-loving’ tough love dished out by the American Empire (AZ on this site), is more staged than real. In other words, it’s a set up. I hope I’m wrong.
to get the follow-up email….
@Stavros H
Thanks for compiling a the list of reference regarding China. It is good to have hard data. However, in reality, what other says or think in this case, really do not matter much. After all, when one has money, he/she has a lot more friends, but when one is poor you get vultures want to pick you off. Just look at what Russia, UK and Europe did to China when Qing Dynasty was on death bed barely over 100 years ago, and What Stalin did to China after end of world war 2.
Yes dear Where wolf I’m reading….but I don’t agree with you about Khazin…
Please read tommorrow’s article on front page of Saker…first article about Malaysian economics…don’t you think that its right ? If only we could completely take control of the entire Russian country and switch to that idea yesterday.
Don’t you agree ?
bye for now,
Ann
Oh, and Where Wolfie !!
Guess who “A” is typing the podcasts !!! I get to listen to his voice for 10 hours every time he makes a new one.
And I bet, every time he sees my spelling errrs he quakes in his Russian boots…
Anonymous kimikytaravel said…
I don’t think Serdyukov was all that bad and that is the reason why Putin waited so long to remove him. I honestly think that the man did a lot of very good work for Russia. This witch hunt reminded me slightly of Strauss Khan scandal. Organized and exploited human weakness, same as with Serdyukov and his secretary I believe..
09 December, 2014 15:49
Dear Kimi !
I agree. that Strauss-Kahn thing was to get rid of a guy who had some surprising things to say when he got into power. Sex scandals are always used to get rid of unwanted baggage. In fact Clinton’s thing was blown to that proportion to deflect public attention from laws that were passed during that interim about cia smuggling…or something like that. Strauss Kahn too. How hard do you guess it is to bribe a woman to say something ??? Ask Julian Assange.
Dear Wend, I always read your comments, always enjoy them…this one:
If we are to stop Rothschilds we need absolute union of Russia, China and India, as the only three countries that really matter on the opposite side of Rothschild controled West.”
The Wend
I think that we actually cannot stop these people…but if we know the truth…then God is on our side, or more importantly, we are on God’s side. Because these people are Satan’s band (k)..and we will overcome it by our knowledge. Somehow.
Love Ann
Americanski your quote
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In the last half of the 19th century in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Hungary and, in a curious way, Croatia were independent kingdoms, sovereign nations…except they couldn’t have control their currency, could not have a foreign policy, and could not compete in international commerce with the Empire. Sound familiar?’
My understanding is that the austro-hungarian empire was actually a very pro-ethnic place and the unrest that happened was a western NGO-type operation.
Dear Saker, this has been such a fun thread… thanks so much for all your work…
thjanks Stavros for all the linksa bout Chinese economy…very interesting to find this out.
Blue, the little kitten must have had diarrhea and you picked her up and gave her the best that you could give, and she is in the higher worlds now and her group soul, her over soul, her great mother kitten in the world soul, looks back at what you did and says thank you.
I want to make it known that I know nothing to very little with regards to Economics and Trade.
There are Countries that want a better Economy, and they want this to contribute to the Global Economic Recovery.
It is good to have Resources, but if any Country is Dependent on its Resources, then it is not really a Country, and Japan which has no Natural resources and has half the population of America was close at one time to having the Largest Economy in the World, but they had a Financial Crisis that prevent them from surpassing America’s Economy.
The low oil Prices could be seen as the World’s Opportunity for the Economy to Recover, and Asia could be the first Region that has this Economic Recovery, and which leads the rest of the World to Economic Recovery.
A large Producer of Oil could say that they will reduce Oil Production to push the Price of Oil up, if the other Oil Producing Countries will compensate that Country in some way, or they could say to the Countries that do not Produce Oil that they will increase Oil Production if those Countries that do not Produce Oil will compensate them by purchasing their Goods and Services, and then that large Oil Producing Country can take the Best Regional Geo Political Deal, rather than the Best overall Monetary Deal.
Malaysia did the correct thing and introduced Money Control to stop Currency Speculators during the Asian Financial meltdown many years ago, and they say that if you want to be successful, then Copy Successful People.
It is an Advantage to have Natural Resources, but any Sensible Country will not be totally reliant on them, but have a Diverse Economy.
@ Stacros H.:
– there was no such thing as an “economic miracle” in China – it is a wholly american product. The US invested over 15 TRILLION dollars in china. Basically, most of chinese industry, banking etc. belongs to the US. that’s a fact, provable black on white.
As for “fining the western car manufacturers”, that’s nonsense. I work for one and the issue is something else – only engines with more than 4l displacement are being severely fined and that’s got to do with environmental protection. They want cars with low fuel consumption. that’s why we also developed new engines with less than 4l for the chinese market.
Saker, take a saker’s view of the conflict:
The NWO always operates following a dialectical pattern, creating and controlling 2 camps fighting each other.
Proletariat and bourgeoisie in Marxism, socialism and capitalism in economy, men and women in feminism, now West and East in politics.
The NWO is creating regions and blocs as a transitional phase to a world government. Putin has been following the same pattern of creating “Supra-National” Unions.
Taking side with one of the 2 camps guarantees that you will never be fighting the real enemy.
http://personalliberty.com/false-eastwest-paradigm-hides-rise-global-currency/
http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-297-china-and-the-new-world-order/
http://jewishfaces.com/china.html
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Maybe Colonel Putin cradles the baby before strangling?
The post WW 1 Bankrupt German Nation was heavily indebted and economically constrained because of Colossal war penalties, but were able to restore their Economy because of a New Monetary System.
In 1933, Germany had Hyperinflation and Unemployment, but by 1938 Germany was on the path of Prosperity, and there was and a construction boom and Full Employment, and Germany even lacked enough workers to fill the available jobs, and this happened at a time when Europe was suffering from Great Depression.
Monetary Theories of that era say that Money issued should be back by Gold held in Central Bank, who works independently from Government, and that Bankers decide how much Money should be issued.
Germany outlawed the contemporary economic system of international banking by issuing its own Currency not only Monetary but also Financial ones, and Germany emphasized that the right of issuing Money should lie in Government who can issue it for the Benefit of its Citizens.
There are Many People who think that Money is not something stored in Lockers but that it is the Actual Wealth of the Productive work of the Citizens and this is purely Logical.
After the world war 1, the International Banking Dracula was ready to Exploit Germany by offering Germany Loans on Interest for their own interests.
Germany refused to accept such loans and issued Germany’s own Currency and Germany’s excellent and innovative Money System astounded the International Bankers.
Germany issued Debt-Free and Interest-Free Money, and the German Government Financed its entire Government without Gold, and without Debt.
Germany began its National Credit Program by Devising a Plan of Various Public Works Projects.
The projected cost of the various programs was fixed at one billion units of the National Currency and One billion Non-Inflationary bills of exchange, called Labour Treasury Certificates, which were then issued against this cost.
Millions of People were put to Work on these projects, and the Workers were paid with the Treasury Certificates.
Workers spent those Certificate Units on other Goods and Services, thus creating more jobs for more People, and in this way the German People climbed out of the crushing Debt Imposed on them by the International Bankers.
Another great aspect of Germany’s Economic System was the Barter System, and German Foreign Trade increased enormously.
England was quite willing to Lend Money to buy raw materials, but Germany insisted upon exchanging goods for goods.
Germany would enter into no obligations to pay for its imports than it was capable of fulfilling, because the German Government took the standpoint of the respectable merchant who keeps his orders in harmony with his power to pay.
The popularity of that System can free the World from the curse of Debt, and this is why Germany emerged as a new Economic Power whose influence spread rapidly across to other Countries.
There is an Article on the Asian Financial crisis of 1997, and is Titled: How Malaysia Weathered the Financial Crisis: Policies and Possible Lessons at http://www.nsi-ins.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/2012-How-to-prevent-the-next-crisis-Malaysia.pdf .
It is Obvious that Puppet Bulgaria showed itself to be a Trojan Horse, and this is why South Stream was not feasible, because Nazi Germany wants to Dominate Europe again, and Infrastructure and Jobs for the Southern Blacks of the Balkans are not part of the Supremacist Northern White German Master Race.
There should be no time wasted on the construction of the New Pipeline that will supply Turkey and some European Countries.
Anonymous @ 10 December, 2014 09:52
“a dialectical pattern”
The example you cite is a false binary not dialectic.
Precision does have some advantages as well as disadvantages.
Russia cannot fight a long term “war” with the “west” (USA and its allies-vassals) with the current state of the Russian economy and its integration with economic globalisation.
if Russia wants to maintain and increase its (economic and political) sovereignty, then it has to gradually disconnect from the system of neoliberal globalisation.
That means to withdraw from the World Trade Organization and Imf, to reject free trade agreements, to nationalise and reform the russian central banking system, to nationalise the natural monopolies and the industries of national importance, to increase tariffs, to re-industrialise and to increase self-sufficiency etc
Otherwise, Russia will lose the conflict with the West.
Integration into the system of globalisation is a suicide for Russia. Russia will end up a vassal to the West
Anonymous elsi said…@ 09 December, 2014 22:50
@Anonymous said at 09 December, 2014 11:53,
No-one is annoyed, annoyance is a barrier to perception and action.
Comments submitted but unpublished in this blog, including in the section re Russian PR, illustrate this.
One of the advantages of “monitoring” is that much of what I/we broadcast is “published” in various places and hence adjudication on this blog does not have particular relevance.
You cannot convince anyone of anything to a level upon which they will act.
Smart strategists try to catalyse and/or make use of “situations” where through practice others can convince themselves – even the opponents try this one fortunately “ineptly”, but then shit is a hard sell as Anonymous caveat emptor might opine, but like Andersen’s Emperor may take passing comfort in the “excellence of US propaganda”.
For illustrative examples about hearts and minds, why Psaki is “ideal” to deliver the message, and the cake lady and her bulkas – particularly ill informed -long may they continue (Yiddish reference but not anti-Semitic if anyone can define the word).
I hear there was some graffitti in Kiev saying – mine is sernik, heavy on the cinammon – some emigre perhaps?
Knowledge is a socially interactive process so attrubution is a form of hubris re-inforcing linear spectra.
It is not the giving of fish, sometimes in specific circumstances it is the sharing of fish, but most usefully in encouraging fishing, thereby not only serving present purpose but creating opportunities for future purpose.
However some data including methodologies useful for hypotheses testing is not broadcast.
Perhaps the following song will give some illustration of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTF_tTKRdb0
”
We are just ordinary people trying to understand and learn.”
The opponents’ “intelligence” has not learned and in various aspects it suits the purpose that they do not do so.
On roofs it is a Zek term, Zek being a language from the gulag also used by some who are represented as the Russian “mafia”.
The word was used to simultaneously characterise and obscure through re-inforcement of pre-delictions, pre-expectations, pre-judgements, and prejudice.
It was also an invitation to test hypotheses.
As you understand in the specific context roof is/was
“protective platform/group”?
One of the methods of “PR” is to “personalise” stories leading to obfuscation.
The notion that Russia does not have a mutually supportive and seasoned collective in “leadership” is just such an obfuscation.
Hence the remarks about the contents of the building out front – Lenin’s cadaver and the cult of Lenin, which if Krupskaya is to be believed some of the dangers of which he understood himself.
The notion of “trust” is understood to be akin to a oscillating currency.
For transcendance participants should “trust” themselves whilst embracing doubt and interact with others in similar process.
Much of “PR” is designed to undermine trust – examples can be found in this blog, although it is very prevalent in the “environment”.
However a datastream is like a snail – it leaves a trail behind it, so information/disinformation is a false binary.
On specific “events” very few will pass reliable views and hence it is necessary to test hypotheses.
Consequently I limit my broadcasts primarily to encourage lateral change.
Anonymous said…
@ Stacros H.:10 December, 2014 08:38
“provable black on white.”
I seem to remember there are more “colours” in the spectrum.
Two orders of kishkas.
Anonymous said…
“anonymous”
“
Peter J. Antonsen
08 December, 2014 22:33″
” The Vietnamese took 12 years and the loss of 2 million of their people to drive the American imperialists from its territory.”
You appear to have forgotten a significant variable – time.
We had some soup today – it was very tasty.
Economic warfare the main Western weapon
http://inclusivedemocracy.org/journal/vol10/vol10_no1-2_Economic_warfare_the_main_Western_weapon.html
Hello Saker and all friends, I post it also to this thread, because it contains some things that improve our spirit, forget Forbe’s desparate Anti-Putin Propaganda. The West is simply _desparate_:
My personal collection of links as I posted to https://www.facebook.com/OpenSXCE for today, maybe interesting:
#0.) Thank God because sanctions and the collapsing Ruble are absolutely killing Russia!
Oh, wait… Foreign Car Manufacturers To Ramp Up Production in Russia Thanks to Cheap Ruble (Nissan)
http://russia-insider.com/en/business/2014/12/09/07-19-03pm/nissan_expands_car_production_russia_amid_market_recovery
#1.) Ukraine Supplies Helicopter Engines to Russia On Schedule…….Of Course http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/2014/12/05/ukrainian-supplies-helicopter-to-russia-on-schedule-of-course/
#2.) Ukraine is now a failed state and will remain so for decades. They can thank the Nobel Prize Winner for that:
Among the few western voices to contradict the official propaganda is the professor of political science at the University of Chicago, John J. Mearsheimer. In the September/October issue of the journal Foreign Affairs, he states that Putin is not the aggressor. “The United States and its European allies share most of the responsibility for the crisis. The taproot of the trouble is NATO enlargement, the central element of a larger strategy to move Ukraine out of Russia’s orbit and integrate it into the West.”
Mearsheimer continues: “Putin’s pushback should have come as no surprise…. His response to events (in Ukraine) has been defensive, not offensive.” He points out that the United States would “not tolerate distant great powers deploying military forces anywhere in the Western Hemisphere, much less on its borders. Imagine the outrage in Washington if China built an impressive military alliance and tried to include Canada and Mexico in it.”
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/11/28/pers-n28.html
#3.) WTF?? Ukraine Invites Russian “Military Specialists” In Donetsk To Promote “Conflict De-escalation” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-10/ukraine-invites-russian-military-specialists-donetsk-promote-conflict-de-escalation
#4.) Stalin researched the Rothschilds http://voiceofrussia.com/us/ Part of an interview with Andrei Fursov on Armen Oganessian’s program. Andrei Fursov – Russian historian, sociologist, writer, o… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCI-GWsLdps
#5.) “Isolated” Russia Begins Testing De-Dollarization-Driven Payment System http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-09/isolated-russia-begins-testing-de-dollarization-driven-payment-system
#6.) I won’t write here what I think Israel deserves: Palestinian minister dies after run-in with IDF soldiers in West Bank protest http://rt.com/news/213059-palestinian-minister-israel-protest/
#7.) Poland and USA deserve the same: Hush money: CIA paid Poland to host its secret prisons and detainees http://rt.com/usa/212967-cia-paid-poland-prisons/
#8.) Distraction time: CIA torture report is here: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-12-09/the-most-important-excerpts-from-the-cia-torture-report
The CIA force-fed detainees through their rectums, and called it a “well acknowledged medical technique.” One detainee suffered from an anal fissure and “symptomatic rectal prolapse”—when parts of the rectum protrude from the anus and are visible outside the body.
#9.) NATO Prepositions Weapons In Poland for Attack on Russia http://www.globalresearch.ca/nato-prepositions-weapons-in-poland-for-attack-on-russia/5418686
I had written: In the last half of the 19th century in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Hungary and, in a curious way, Croatia were independent kingdoms, sovereign nations…except they couldn’t have control their currency, could not have a foreign policy, and could not compete in international commerce with the Empire. Sound familiar?
Ann in reply: “My understanding is that the austro-hungarian empire was actually a very pro-ethnic place and the unrest that happened was a western NGO-type operation.”
Ann, what I itemized is factual. I’ll add, NATO-like, although they contributed men and money to the army, they had no control over their military. That was the perogative of the Emperor.
In the 18th century in this part of the world, populist ethnicity or nationalism in the later ethnocentric, nationalistic sense did not yet exist. By the last half of the 19th century, the Austro-Hungarian period of the Habsburgs, romantic nationalism or ethnocentrism was in full flower.
Habsburg policy regarding the nationalities shifted, depending on who was Emperor and who his advisers were.
To the extent one can refer to a Habsburg ideology, the current anti-nationalist sentiment of the EU in favor of a larger identity (European) is the latest variant of it.
Anonymous said…@ 10 December, 2014 14:34
” Economic warfare the main Western weapon”
So the cake lady is to be stupped after all?
I feel sorry for the mother.
Very interesting.
Saker deleted my post about Russian been a vulture and back stabbing China while the Qing Dynasty is in death bed and end of world war two, and UK, Japan and rest of west circling around Chinese Coast. I wondering in what right Russian is expecting from China while the rest of world has returned their loot except Russia! And what China should expect expect from Russia if some day she is in a jam?
Anonymous Amerikanski said…@ 10 December, 2014 15:17
“By the last half of the 19th century, the Austro-Hungarian period of the Habsburgs, romantic nationalism or ethnocentrism was in full flower.”
But “Ruthenia” was a little late in wiggling to the Rudetski march, although further “west” they were quicker to take the floor – for example Herzl.
Nuance is very important and absolutes a form of poking eyes out.
On biology, flowers bloom just before they die.
Dear Ann,
thank you for your kind words. I didn’t have a clue that somebody here likes my posts.
And to tell you the truth, I am also not sure if we can stop these people.
We have to try.
Regards from
the Wend.
Anonymous said.@10 December, 2014 13:31:
Friend senior estrategist:
Honestly I can hardly understand you, I do not know if it’s because for any of the two is not our mother tongue English, and what is on my side, not domain at all.
You speak about Yiddish pastry, of which I have no clue. Once in Paris, Le Marais, tried to buy a piece of cake, but there were many, and although the place was lovely, just like Mom’s house, had no where to take it there, and it was freezing outside … . So I can not comment about this issue….
What I understood from the first time you mentioned it’s that you had commented several times move “the content in the building front”.
I wanted to tell you, if I may, it does not seem a good idea, what harm can a dead person, even worship him? None. I think also people would not understand.
I think Lenin has earned the site there with everyone else, please do not remove. On my next visit to Moscow I would visit him (I’m thinking of traveling to Russia, what do you think? I’ve never been there)
With the cleaning to do in the Kremlin, start with living better, they do more harm …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSvOK9RRGFM
elsi said @ 10 December, 2014 20:28
The cake lady handed out bulka – which are bread rolls in English.
In 1992 the US delivered surplus chicken to Russia and Ukraine.
Sernik is cheesecake and cinamon thought to be a tasty (luxurious in Soviet times) addition.
So the reference : First you gave us chicken, then dry bread but I want cheesecake with cinammon.
On the mausoleum the reference was to the “cult of personality”.
The discussing did take place.
Previously Stalin was re-directed.
” what harm can a dead person, even worship him? None.”
You are mistaken.
Anonymous @10 December, 2014 21:40,
Friend senior strategist,
you said
“You are mistaken”
Would have to discuss….not possible here…
I left some fish to share in the thread on the “German manifesto” and the two most recent threads…
today has been good tide….
Obviously, Central bank is not owned by Russians, as FED is not owned by Americans.
Since both institutions are run by secret cabal, which operates internationally. Therefore, Russian intelligence should take all available methods to try to measures to track and oust that camarilla.
@Ann
;)
I knew you wouldn’t agree on Khazin but that’s OK.
I appreciate all sincere comments from REAL people. They help me locate that internal voice I sometimes lack — which is why I look forward to reading ’em.
Btw — are you married?
“Anonymous said…
@ Stacros H.:10 December, 2014 08:38
“provable black on white.”
I seem to remember there are more “colours” in the spectrum.
Two orders of kishkas.
10 DECEMBER, 2014 13:37″
Sorry man but you’re playing with words here in order to divert the discussion.
The message is clear – it’s all provable via official documents which are publicly available. Whatever color of the ink and paper used.
Putin is as usual pragmatic, maybe this is the only way and a safe way for russian people, but to read that Saker would like more is for me a good news and I feel the same way. Putin could be a partner not a leader for those who want to rule the world in a better human respectable no liberal way. Feel free continue to say what you feel Saker, you lost some guys but enjoy others. As you read i am not really fluent in english, and sometimes i have to feel more emotions than facts, and that kind of reaction prove that i feel right that you feel free. So long Saker
Anonymous said…11 December, 2014 10:02
“Anonymous said…
@ Stacros H.:10 December, 2014 08:38
“Sorry man but you’re playing with words here in order to divert the discussion.
The message is clear – it’s all provable via official documents which are publicly available. Whatever color of the ink and paper used.”
Thank you for confirming that you did not understand the previous broadcast.
The points were illustrating your notions of the binary and ofcertainty.
It may be that you live in the area which hold that these truths are self-evident.
The world is inter-dynamic with nuance and uncertainty.
The colours were used as illustrating that even in a linear spectrum the binary does not exist.
The perception was being focused not “diverted”, unless you hold that the change from blindness to focus is a form of diversion.
You may have the impression that discussions happen in a blog but that is highly contentious.
Dear all!
Perhaps this is slightly off-topic, but nevertheless I stumbled upon this excellent analysis by Guillaume Faye. He is one of the intellectual standard-bearers of the European new right, and he sees the American escalation against Russia as much as an attack against Russia as against Europe:
in French:
http://www.gfaye.com/la-russophobie-strategie-us-contre-la-france-et-leurope/
in Swedish: http://www.motpol.nu/gastkronikor/2014/12/01/rysskracken-usas-strategi-mot-frankrike-och-europa/
Perhaps there is hope for Europe?
Kind regards!
D.