Disclaimer: this is not an analysis, just a quick initial reaction.
So we now have both replies.
First, Lavrov was right, compared to the NATO reply, the US reply is a model of diplomatic propriety.
One could be forgiven to think that while the US reply was written by US officials, the NATO reply was written by a Pole.
Except it is quite obvious that NATO member states can’t even take a breath without asking Uncle Shmuel’s permission.
So are these two very different replies prepared by the self same people?
Yup. That is my guess.
Next, let’s look at the core of the replies:
- US: let’s talk, and talk, and then talk some more ad aeternam
- NATO reply: do you clearly see our middle finger Mr Putin?
In reality, it is one and the same reply: the Master Race does not negotiate with Snow Niggers.
By the way, all the quite reasonable confidence building measures now “proposed” by the USA have all been proposed by Russia in the past and proudly rejected by the Master Race.
What effect will that single reply (in two hypostases) will most likely result in.
- The Russians will act unilaterally and dial up the pain dial, very slowly and deliberately.
- The EU will act like kids who threw a stone at a window: run like hell, hide, and wait to see what Russia will do. If the markets read this correctly, they should freak out and begin a sharp decline.
- The US will keep a mostly benevolent facial expression while egging on the EU to further provoke Russia
- Both Zones A and Zones B will consolidate around, respectively, the US and Russia/China.
I will stop here by adding just a few simple facts:
- China cannot afford a Western victory in this struggle (anymore than Russia can afford a US victory against China). Since Putin is going to meet Xi in Beijing, we can expect some interesting statements to come out in the near future.
- It is extremely likely that the Russian Duma will officially send major military aid to the LDNR.
- It is very possible that the Russian Duma will ask the Kremlin to recognize the LDNR.
- A CIA/MI6 false flag attack in the Ukraine is very likely.
- Ze is screwed. He knows it.
That’s it, let’s wait a day or so before making any real analyses.
Andrei
PS: the one thing which really makes me laugh is this: if a big war is about to break up, why are western diplomats being evacuated from Kiev but not from Moscow? :-)
Interesting…repubican senator josh hawley asks biden to keep ukraine out of NATO
I really like Josh Hawley. He is as Populist as a Republican can be nowadays. I’m proud he’s from Missouri where half my family hails from. Hawley, I believe is a bigger threat to the Establishment than Donald Trump ever was and that’s why he was demonized for questioning the 2020 election results.
So hating China and wanting to crush China’s sovereignty is being a “populist and Republican”.
Yes, it is.
And you like that?
I already told you that you cannot serve two masters.
Your allegiance is either to flag and country, or to God and Truth.
You can’t have it both ways.
As you may know, it is not uncommon in the USA for a church sanctuary to include a display the American flag… at least among “protestant” groups.
Alas, I have seen that in a lot of “Orthodox” parishes too.
Humans are the same everywhere I am afraid…
Andrei
What kind of people has been at the forefront of the warmongering crisis in Ukraine/? – Ziocons.
To double and triple the insult to injury, American ziocons have fraternized with self-proclaimed neo-Nazis.
Someone needs to bring this fact home to the American (and Canadian) Jewish Communities: Jewish persons of zionist persuasion have been supporting and arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine.
This is not an antisemitic statement. This is a statement exposing the shamelessness and indecency of the US/UK and Canadian Zionists, who have detached their conscience from the alleged (for them) Holohoax in a few short years.
Where is the voice of the Jewish Community at large denouncing the ziocons’ perfidy?
Where is the noisy ADL? Where is the squealing about “antisemitism” by the AIPAC? Silence. Deafening silence regarding the Zionists’ effort against Russia. Not a grain of dignity.
So, the great purging of Khazars was indeed bull. Would you side with a entity that supposedly were killing them just 70 years ago?
The chosen ones no better than anyone else no matter what they say to the contrary.
Senator Hawley wants to use all US resources against China instead
Of course!
Who would want to spend that money on healthcare, infrastructure, reform of the penitentiary hell, education and all that sort of “commie stuff”?
Not the Master Race, oh no!
That’s the Fox News point of view…and I want nothing to do with it….Absolutely delusional…
At least he’s right on Ukraine. We also have to remember that Josh Hawley is from a state (Missouri) that lost a lot of manufacturing to China. My Uncle’s factory in Kansas City closed when the corporation moved operations to China. Thankfully he was close to retirement and was able to transfer to a warehouse to finish his career.
And Hitler was right about the Autobahns while Lenin was right on the nature of imperialism.
So what?
You gave your allegiance to country ruled by a violent, imperialistic, messianic, God-hating ideology.
Now you are stuck.
Until you see that you cannot serve two masters you will only repeat trite propaganda talking points.
Free yourself, free your mind and free your soul before it is too late!
This is my Motherland Andrei. I am still an American. I haven’t given up on her yet. I hate Washington as much as you do, but I won’t curse my Motherland or my WWII veteran grandfathers.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
You can wave your flag as hard as you want, just don’t call yourself Christian, that’s all.
I am not your enemy Andrei. I am your friend. I hope you can see that. I know you’re angry about things going on in the world and so am I. I am angry about what the Empire has done to Ukraine and Russia. I am angry about what the Empire has done to my beloved America as well. We have the same enemies. So we should be friends.
As for my eternal soul and whether I am a True Christian or not, isn’t that God’s domain my brother and the domain of no other man. God knows my heart. God knows my sins and I will be judged accordingly.
On a personal level you are neither my enemy nor my friend.
But in the big scheme of things, you are an enemy of BOTH the people of the United States and the people of Russia, because you serve, objectively, the force of darkness which threaten both the people of the USA and Russia under the pretext that your family members already did that. I quoted Christ’s words to you because, PRECISELY, they are His words and not my words.
And His words are quite clear, even if you chose to ignore them or pretend like they don’t apply.
Since He is my Master and Lord, and you serve another master and lord, we are therefore spiritual enemies, don’t bother denying that, it is quite obvious.
We do not have the same enemies. You chose the world and its ruler, I chose His Kingdom which is not of this world.
The gap between us couldn’t be bigger.
Obfuscating it does not make it smaller.
I don’t understand where you are coming from at all. I was a Roman Catholic who converted to the Orthodox Church (in the former USSR). I speak some Russian. I love Russians and Russia, I am sympathetic to the rebels in Donbass defending their land from the Junta. I have tried to explain the Russian position on their Near Abroad to family and friends consistently for over 14 years now. I am against the Empire, 1000%.
So I completely don’t understand your animosity towards me. Can you explain? Are you angry at me because I won’t curse America or my American Father’s? Explain to me this hostility, because I really don’t understand it.
Is there a problem with me loving the land of my birth? The land where my Mother and Father and all four Grandparents were born. I don’t see how that makes me less of a Christian than you? Is this about my refusal to condemn the Veterans?
Please help me understand your position and your condemnation of me who am a fellow Orthodox Christian (received into the Russian Orthodox Church no less) because at this moment I think your stance against me is completely unjustified. You are condemning a friend and an ally to your cause. Isn’t that no different from the Woke who would condemn me a Mestizo (of European and Indigenous heritage) for not completely condemning my Spanish Catholic ancestors and heritage without whom their are no Mestizos, there is no Latin America and I don’t exist. We surely can be critical of the past without spitting on the graves of our Ancestors can’t we?
A bottle can say “milk” on it but contain anything.
To be Orthodox, baptism is not enough: your ethos must change, radically.
I have zero animosity towards you, I just tell you the truth as best I can see it.
For example, your constant focus on ethnicity is not Christian at all:
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
As for the argument about “spitting on the graves of our Ancestors” this was exactly what the pagan Romans told Christians.
You want to be my spiritual friend? Then serve Christ and ONLY Him. And follow HIS commandments. Give up your ethno-phyletism, stop serving/defending the rulers of the modern Babylon and then we can talk.
Basically, choose sides. Once you do, I will gladly welcome you as a friend and ally.
Andrei
humbly thank you Saker for this day of you on Earth with us
I said today, becoming man ist to become man. As my heart sees, for an American to become an American is to humbly share with the true spirit of Tortoise Island and depart from of our ancestors’ supermaniacially blindness and arogance of rulers and serves of masterrace.
God bless your Vineyard
I’m glad you hold no animosity towards me Andrei because I never met you but I love you like a brother. As for charges of ethnophyletism, I don’t understand that. By ethnicity I am primarily ethnically Mexican, by that account I should move to Mexico, become a Mexican Nationalist and return to Roman Catholicism and condemn anyone and everyone who isn’t a Mexican Catholic Nationalist like me.
I reject ethnophyletism especially if that is embodied by the schismatics in Ukraine. One of the reasons I converted to Orthodoxy is exactly because I saw it to be the True Catholic (Universal) Church of Antiquity. I love people. I don’t care if they are American or Russian or Pakistani or anything in between. I don’t hate Muslims, I don’t hate Jews. I don’t hate anyone (even though I am tempted to hate the Ruling Class and their Marionettes).
I love people, I love nature (God’s creation), I love animals. I love history, I love classic architecture, I love classic music and folk music. I love Orthodoxy and thank God that He exposed me to Orthodoxy as a teenager and that led to my conversion at the age of 28 (after my first daughter was born and baptized).
I am thankful to God that He gifted me with this mind so I am able to think for myself otherwise I would just be going along with the herd on Ukraine and Russia and Syria, all the way back to Serbia in the 1990’s. God gifted me with the intellect to be able to think independently and see through the lies in the propaganda that most Westerners swallow without questioning.
Now with that said there is a rage in me that is unholy (it’s always been there as far as I can remember). There is an undeniable Spanish arrogance in me I have not yet learned to temper. There is a spirit of resistance and rebellion in me that is not always kept within Christian boundaries. Those are my shortcomings to conquer and control in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
I know that my salvation is not set in stone. I know it is not guaranteed. I know that I may very well go to Hell for my numerous sins.
As for me Andrei, I am a simple man no different than my ancestors. I believe in God, Family and Country. Honor, loyalty and respect. I love my country, the land of my birth but that love does not extend to these rulers of Modern Babylon (as you’ve correctly called them). I do not defend or serve the Empire and I despise the Ruling Class behind the Empire because they are destroying America and that which was good and Christian about Western Civilization (such as Traditional Marriage and Family and our ancient Christian heritage which was Orthodox before the Great Schism). I don’t serve them. As soon as I knew what they were about I was in opposition to them.
I don’t see how my sentiments make me any different from an Orthodox Christian Patriot in Donbass or Syria, Russia or Serbia. In fact all of the above including True American Patriots have the same enemies (whether they realize that truth or not).
Saker, this is maybe too much from you. People like JEinCA are obviously not yours or Russian enemies.
In this way you just scare people with your proselytism.
You see this conflict between Russia and USA as a fight of good and evil. Me too. In spite the feeling that oligarchs who run Russia have betrayed Russian people many times, I still pray for Russia.
But you cannot ask Americans to hate USA. That is too much. These ordinary people have nothing to do with Washington ruling class.
You are complaining to the wrong person. All I did is remind JEinCA what Christ taught, what was preached by the Apostles, and what was preserved by the Fathers. So if that is “too much” – then please blame Christ, not me. Also, I never asked anybody to “hate the USA” since I myself love them. I will, however, remind you of the words of Christ “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”
So I think that your beef is with Christ, not with me.
Cheers
Andrei
In America, the States were UNITED to establish, to materialize a Zionist project, which unfortunately is also satanic and anti-Christian. Few and rare things in the US today are Christian. Almost nothing is Christian. Trump and other Republicans are just opportunistic freeloaders. Mitt Romney is a model anti-Christian “American Christian”. The truth does not live in America.
“Patriotism cannot be our final spiritual shelter; my refuge is humanity. I will not buy glass for the price of diamonds, and I will never allow patriotism to triumph over humanity as long as I live. ” – Rabindranath Tagore
From (https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/national-anthem-flag-in-theatre-rabindranath-tagore-supreme-court-4406145/):
“Throughout his life, Tagore remained deeply critical of nationalism, a position that pitted him against Mahatma Gandhi. Tagore argued that when love for one’s country gives way to worship, or becomes a “sacred obligation”, then disaster is the inevitable outcome. “I am willing to serve my country; but my worship I reserve for Right which is far greater than country. To worship my country as a god is to bring curse upon it,” Tagore wrote in his 1916 novel, The Home and the World. The words were spoken by Nikhil, one of the two protagonists in the novel, who many thought to be Tagore’s alter-ego.”
Neoconservative neo-liberals are so far to the reich they make Hitler look like a stoned hippie communist living in a tent by comparison. The U.S. is a F.I.RE sector dominated paper tiger that has enough trouble supporting extractive industries. The silver lining is that it will lose its empire and can only tie things up in a way that costs about 7.924 billion according to this source https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
They are absolutely as bad as the Nazis. They want be to dominate the world and make no bones about that.
right on… and they did learn from mistakes of Adolf , Mao, Stalin…..
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
just checked on countries which i know personally to have positive coverage of Russia or China, and the public also positive about Russia/China.
million population
Russia 146 (i guess), china 1448, india 1401, Pakistan 227, Bangladesh 167, Vietnam 98, Iran 85
3572mb/7.9bn = 45%
Industry-wise, might be about similar %, since chinese bt itself is a giant.
I am sure belarus, Venezuela, Cuba must be pro Russia too.
Problem is, the human tendency to want approval from the (imagined) masters.
We should be correct in our descriptions.
It was western CEOs, primarily Americans, who moved industry out of the USA to China.
China offered them a deal. China offered labor at near slave labor prices, and China offered lax environmental regulations. Interestingly enough, that’s pretty much the same deal that MO had offered a previous generation of CEO’s to get them to move their factories from the industrial NE to MO…. cheap labor, no unions, lax environmental enforcement.
But China never was the force that actually moved the industries from the USA. That force was in the CEO offices of the major corporations, and in the Wall Street banks behind them. They were the people who decide that the industries now needed to leave the USA behind for ever greater profits for the investor class.
If you are going to succeed, you need to properly identify your enemy.
Correction, Missouri was always a strong union state. That only changed in the past 20 years or so, but it’s still not a Right to Work state like Kansas. You are right about the Western CEO’s and the Global Capitalists seeing China as the perfect place for cheap labor. Yes you are right that is not China’s fault. It is the fault of our Ruling Class, the investor class and their marionettes in Washington.
I understand that’s not China’s fault but that does not change the perception in Middle America that China stole American jobs. Of course we should help them see that it was their own Ruling Class and Wall Street, and Washington that sold out the Rust Belt and the Heartland and weakened their own manufacturing base.
@ Jeinca
If you understood the reserve status of the dollar and how it’s “as good as gold”, you’d understand why those jobs had to be off shored. Never mind it to took two world wars engineered by the same masters you claim to decry for you and the fellow belts way champiñones to even be complaining about those jobs being off shores in the first place.
US diplomacy consists of accusing Russia – without evidence – of doing everyhting that the US has.
The response was clearly written as propaganda and with the intention of being leaked. The ‘do not disclose’ instructions were just to amp it up for the media.
Russian-Chinese symbolism
“Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping will adopt a joint statement “On International Relations Entering a New Era” during the visit of the Russian delegation to Beijing on February 4,” when the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.
( The US will know about it on February 3 )))
symbiosis
Russia and China are ALREADY symbionts.
The question is this: what would be the next step up from that?
cheers
Next step up?
Think Rodgers and Hammerstein. Music and Words. A Creative Team, Duo. The Double Helix is organic.
Coordinating Composers of the Multipolar World and Eurasian Integration.
Not only a defense against the Hegemon/West, but a creative force flowing from the combined energies of their coordinating civilizations.
They are already attracting India and Iran, two more civilizations with much to contribute and both of which don’t want to take the poison of the West.
“The Double Helix is organic.
Coordinating Composers of the Multipolar World and Eurasian Integration.”
Yes, we have to do like them.
I dont think its a step, it appears to be a step, but really its a continuation, of Chinas ability to grow.
The unwritten history of China was that they were making deals in south america and reaching towards the USA. Instead of cheap goods flowing across the mexican border and having to be patrolled to keep out. The Nixon administration concockted an agreement that they would allow chinese to trade here in the states in the early seventies.
Weather the jobs flowed out, or the cheap goods were going to flow in, the US thought they could control it financially.
But the greed of high interest rates, creating so much bad money and the feelings to go w/it worldwide, and for an extended period of time also, leads me to believe, somehow, and I dont know why, I think war is inevitable, but is there still time or has that run out too.
And meanwhile Nato is bringing in endless heavy weapons into Ukraine. Does that not bother Russia?
Every day and ever hour more is coming in.
Not really.
For civilians, this looks like a lot of firepower.
For military people, this looks like dumping fuel on the Nazi fire in the Ukie minds.
I mean,
Seriously,
Does anybody thing that thousands of Russian tanks will invade the Ukraine WWII style??
This is the 21st century, not the 20th…
Thank you Andrei :)
This is the 21st century, not the 20th…
Thank you so much for your insight, Andrei. Raining iron and explosives on your enemies is a 20th century notion .. when economic pressure is so vastly more effective.
I am not looking forward to the next couple of years here, but it is sure to be interesting. And your insights, and Christian perspective, bring a certain peace to my thoughts. Thank you.
… of course, one must have an _answer_ to iron and explosives and assorted bad smells, but such technology no longer equates to “winning”.
Anti-Tank or Bunker buster missiles/rockets are not heavy weapons.
“Master Race.”
-What would the master race be? USA and the west are multicultural societies that have an extreme hatred towards white people. Is the master race jews?
Of course not! I don’t use racial or ethnic categories.
The Master Race is the collective West, it is a political-cultural category.
The Nazis based it on blood.
The West on money.
But the idea is the same: both are racist and messianic
When Obama made his famous quote about Americans being the ‘exceptional people’, I very clearly noticed that a statement that says “We are the Exceptional People, and must rule the world” is of course almost identical to “We are the Master Race, and must rule the world.”
It is of course the conclusion of the logic in the insane belief that they are entitled to rule the world that is the very, very dangerous portion of the thought.
I believe it was Madeleine Albright who first used the phrase:
‘If we have to use force, it is because we are America; we are the indispensable nation We stand tall and we see further than other countries into the future, and we see the danger here to all of us.’
Obama merely parroted that poisonous mantra to the detriment of the lives of millions of people around the world.
“PS: the one thing which really makes me laugh is this: if a big war is about to break up, why are western diplomats being evacuated from Kiev but not from Moscow? :-)”
– Running away from a sniper is pointless – will die tired ! (с)))
LOL!
I don’t think that western diplomats feel any danger, be it from a big war or from snipers.
They know that Russia is safe for them and for everybody else.
Now Kiev is a different story altogether :-)
There could be some ugly Nazi thugs breaking into the western embassies when things starting to get wrong.
To that point Saker, since rats are abandoning the ship, it is then quite possible that false flag is about to be detonated in Kiev?
So true! That one line is the big eye opening, “Ah Hah”, moment for those who didn’t think of it. It may look bad for Ukraine, but I personally think they are using every political trick to push the Western narrative. This narrative, to anyone with an decent IQ or living in Zone B, looks like a real circus. Side show freaks, clown show, and all.
I read the USA response. Total horse manure. It reeks of sociopathy. A sociopath always puts an excessive amount of energy into his deceitful scheme.
It is wise to remember an old saying on the North American continent ….
“The Great White Chief in Washington speaks with a Forked Tongue.”
I’ve noticed both Fox and NPR are dialing up Russia/China war fever lately. Seems to be taking over from the meme flu.
I do remember reading, though not able to recall where, about V. Putin’s style
of negotiation: his first offer is the best one and, if rejected, any subsequent one
will be less favorable.
There is a certain rational behind this negotiation strategy ( loosely connected
to the “tit-for-tat” algorithm, deemed optimal in some game-theoretic circles ), as saving time and effort before finding agreement or reaching cut-off point. Clearly, such a simplified negotiation strategy can not be applied in matters of national survival. It is also clear that RF is using every possible negotiation tool to solve, as V. Putin said in one of his interviews, “5-8 minutes flight to Moscow” problem , without resorting to purely military means.
The first offer was, if I remember correctly, withdrawal of all NATO offensive weapons to to 1997 line of separation. Since this was rejected, I wonder what
would be second RF’s non-ultimatum?
Best regards, Spiral
Spiral,
Over the years, several commentators have described Putin’s negotiating method in the terms you are remembering.
This one was my favourite:
Here: https://fort-russ.com/2014/12/the-taming-of-europe-or-new-putins/
~ Laninya
Thank you very much for this reference.
Best regards, Spiral
An economic war is coming:
Russia Is Prepared To Declare Economic War On The West, Inflicting “Huge Economic Pain”
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/rabobank-russia-prepared-declare-economic-war-west-inflicting-huge-economic-pain
Original from
Rabobank: Choosing wallpaper during the Blitz
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“Russia clearly understands the geopolitical and geoeconomic pressure points that *it* controls. They can see the US does not want to raise rates but has to. They can also see that they can force inflation far higher, inflicting huge economic pain, even if they take some too. That is how economic wars work. Are we ready to fight one, or are we going to redraw borders to avoid one?”
“The scale of what is happening over markets’ heads –and the naval-gazing drivel on Bloomberg this morning– is summarized by former Portuguese politician Bruno Maçães in a Time magazine article, “What Happens Next in Ukraine Could Change Europe Forever”. In it, he notes: “The Russian television anchor Dmitry Kiselyov, known as a reliable Kremlin mouthpiece, explained on air during the past weekend that the current crisis is not about Ukraine: ‘The scale is much bigger.’ I concur: which is why I called it a metacrisis.
Maçães adds another line I have been stressing since 2017: “We no longer live in the old liberal order where rules must be enforced, and violators punished. We live in a new order where power must be balanced with power.” And the EU has no such power! If only its preparations had been made as far back as 2017 when ‘The Great Game of Global Trade’ came out.
As such, Maçães argues “The US must reflect on whether it can afford to reduce its presence in Europe before a proper counterweight to Russia has been created in Brussels. The pivot to Asia may need to wait for a solution to the European crisis. As for Europeans, they need to quickly prepare themselves for a new world, where their sovereignty and security may well be at stake.” Except the dynamic in the US is not moving in that direction. Asia is the priority, regardless.”
A military alliance of states that wants to expand, is something disturbing! Does it mean anything if this expanding ‘military alliance of states’ calls itself a ‘defensive alliance’ and thus suggests that it does not want to put pressure on other states, corner them or endanger their sovereignty?
If the US had the intention to threaten Russia, could it be more skilful than making Ukraine a member of the military alliance it dominates?
The Russian security proposals have three key dimensions: Russia’s security (goal-core /main), political and tactical (weapon positioning). The former two are primary and the latter secondary elements. The Empire (U$A & NATO) has dismissed the primary demands and distracts by framing it as the “Ukraine conflict” issue and focusing the talks on the secondary elements. Will Russia go with this strategy? Most likely no.
The Empire has successfully framed the “Security proposals” as the “Ukraine conflict” issue in the world media. The Empire is playing game theory 101 to declare a “Success”. There are two main scenarios that will most likely occur with this framing:
– Russia doesn’t attack. The Empire will declare success through its propaganda that it deterred Russia and it is a force to be reckoned with.
– Russia does attack. The Empire will declare success by promoting that it was right about Russia’s intent and got the intelligence right.
This is “heads I win, tails you lose,” for the Empire. Russia needs to address this challenge. Russia hasn’t done well in the global media in promoting its key messages. It will do better by creating a webpage with its proposals, context (violations of prior commitments), Empire’s game plan and encirclement of Russia. Russian sympathizers can refer to that page and stay on the key messages. There is no coherence between various Russian spokespersons. Russia needs to capture and drive the media narratives. It will be interesting to see Russia’s next moves.
Russia has been strengthening its “military-technical” cooperation with Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Cuba against the American Threat for a while now.
Just as there is an Axis of Resistance (Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, the Houthis) against the American world empire in the Middle East, there is also a similar Axis of Resistance in America’s very own “backyard” of Latin America.
As seen in this video from Multipolarista, the Americans appear to very nervous that the Russians are enhancing their ties with this Latin Axis of Resistance.
Contradicting their own rhetoric, the Americans actually do believe in “spheres of influence”–albeit, only their own.
Too bad for the USA, however, other nations are giving the big middle finger to the American Empire’s imperial Monroe Doctrine. ;-)
Russia strengthens military cooperation with Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba amid US threats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCwDInUPmQ
I think the diplomacy is interesting. It is basically you keep your self safe by not threatening me, but if you threaten me then I must threaten you out of self defense, then neither is safe. Individually and collectively both Europe and US should see the logic of the “partnership.” I expect the US will try to maintain its superior position, but I think most of Europe will not want to take an aggressive role against Russia. Russia is allowing the US to brake up NATO by having the Ukrainians die to the last Ukrainian for the Empire.
Andrei I do not know what Senator Hawley has proposed visa vi China. I was responding to John’s original comment as to Senator Hawley being opposed to Ukraine becoming part of NATO.
Most modern companies can change location, it’s an extremely difficult and costly process, so it should only really be attempted in an emergency. Worthless European leaders are now artificially creating this emergency for purely ideological reasons, directly against the economic interests of the people who elected them. Europe is already a de-industrialised theme park so when the remaining industries have all fled to ‘zone B’ what then?
Honestly, the US response is better than expected — a sign of US second thoughts.
The US is willing to hold discussions around inspections of the Missile Defense sites in Romania and Poland — that is a concession by the US and a victory for Russia, unless I am missing some nefarious meaning of the reciprocal demand to inspect two similar sites in Russia.
The US is willing to discuss the notion of indivisible security.
The US is willing discuss the issue of missile systems in Ukraine.
The US proposes follow up measures to the New Start Treaty.
So, the US mostly proposes talk, talk, talk. But it also agrees to talk about some of Russia’s key concerns, and indirectly accepts that Russia has legitimate security interests.
So, Putin has achieved something positive through the ultimatums, treaty proposals, and mobilization of forces and training exercises.
I expect Russia to continue a cautious approach; it will continue to meet with the US to discuss these matters, it will coordinate with China, and it will slowly and cautiously increase the “pain dial” to divide NATO, generate hysteria in Washington, and expose Western hypocrisy. The pain dial will take many forms, like today’s flights near Scotland, deployments in Belarus, etc. Let’s see what happens with all the Latin America rumors.
In short, there is no imminent war, unless the US unleashes the Ukie fascists on Donbass.
Honestly, the US response is better than expected — a sign of US second thoughts.
I agree that there are some interests in the US which is having 2nd thoughts.
But the War Party has crushed them, totally.
So they are becoming irrelevant.
At this point the Deep State is mainly concerned about domestic dissent and a growing distrust of authority. For the past quarter century the War Party was primarily interested in War because they believed it would tend to unify the population. I think it is in this area they are having second thoughts particularly since a strong Russian response won’t be met by a strong Imperial response since Europe is wavering. So Washington will look bad if they appear weak and therefore we’ll have a very strong Republican resurgence in Congress and highly divided government with cultural/tribal issues on the front burner.
I’m no expert but the missile site inspection offer seems meaningless. ‘Look, no nuclear tipped missiles here!’ (except the ones stored in a nearby bunker).
As for the flights near Scotland, according to one MSM site ‘…Typhoons from 1 (F) squadron at RAF Lossiemouth take off to intercept the rogue aircraft flying on the edge of UK airspace. They travel at supersonic speeds.’ Hahahahaha
Standard American domestic negotiation technique….. keep them talking while the swat teams move in for the kill.
On news today:
The comedian in chief has singed a decree to expand the Ukronazi military by 100,000
Apparently the Anglozionists have a wishful thinking about holding off Russia with negotiations while continuously arming the 404.
What we have here are stalling tactics by the US and NATO, who want additional time to do something. Both must be very upset about insubordination by European members inside NATO and the EU. Things are not going smoothly. A bad omen for both the US and NATO.
The die has not been cast yet. Washington has to decide whether it wants a big dramatic world event to help Democrats in November–this is the most significant off-year election in a long time. Some sort of tit-for-tat war might be good for Democrats but an all out destruction of Ukraine may not be because it would make Washington appear not to be in control of the situation. As for NATO, like many other organizations, it has a life of its own and an agenda (to give a reason for being) that always favors war anywhere and everywhere. I have no clue what the EU wants. The pivotal country in all this is Germany (as usual). Will it join France on trying to move Washington to revive the Minsk agreement? Washington and its propaganda organs refuse to admit that this agreement even exists–it has been married to an anti-Russian strategy for over a decade for, as Douglas Macgregor has pointed out, the main dynamic for that hatred is emotional and visceral.
Like you say, we’ll have to wait to see how all the forces align or don’t align–it will tell us a lot about the state of the global power-structure.
One of the lessons to be learned from the beginning of World War One, is that in an alliance, the weaker powers tend to drive the alliance forward to war. This was true with Austria-Hungary being very aggressive towards Serbia, acting for all the world like a little brother who believes that big brother has his back if a fight truly develops.
That was the end of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. And it didn’t turn out very well for ‘big brother’ either.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/02/how-misguided-grant-strategy-led-to-the-us-defeat.html#more
B sees a great strategic error in US policies; China and Russia moving ever closer together.
I would add: obvious disunity in Europe over neocon efforts to impose sanctions and precipitate a war.
That’s another victory for Russia.
Zero chance that Putin endorses an official recognition of LDNR. It would be a very short-sighted move and clearly against Russia’s interests. The communists in the Duma may want to go that route, because they are idiots. But Putin is not an idiot. A move like this would further place the rest of Ukraine under western dependence. That’s not what Russia wants. They want all of Ukraine liberated, not just a couple provinces.
I like the idea of offering assistance to prevent another coup. Probably increases the odds of the West instigating one which spinning claims of interference, but also means that it would be easier to gather the evidence and make the real facts known to those not glued to Western officials and their poodles in the media. Only if most of the East and South get the real facts, perhaps it has a chance to get some traction in the West.
Perhaps any bill recognizing LDNR should have a provision that it takes effect immediately upon an attack or false flag of a false flag (or stated more simply, provocation).
I don’t think Putin would endorse independence for LNDR either. He needs to prolong the Minsk II. charade, even if it’s been clear from the start the talks lead nowhere. Only yesterday the foreign minister of Ukraine Kuleba resolutely rejected any special status for the republics within Ukraine, a key point in the agreement. But for Russia, the talks mean having a chance of France and Germany in the room without the US and the Brits, a chance to probe the size of the cracks in the alliance. I am not sure about Putin planning to take Novorossija provinces either. For one, I am not sure Xi-Jin-Ping would endorse partitioning of an existing member of UN (remember Chinese reluctance to recognize Crimea’s repatriation). More importantly, breaking up Ukraine on the Dnieper, would create a larger buffer for Russia but also a super-concentrated hostile dwarf in Lvov, totally dominated by the the OUN nazis, all but guaranteeing continuing armed conflict with Russia all along the new border. Finally taking the whole of Ukraine, with Galicia, would also be difficult. Russia would have to restructure Ukraine, politically, and clean up the Interior Ministry and SBU with people committed to Moscow’s cause. The Maidan putsch in 2014 was a direct consequence of the security organs falling into the hands of anti-Russian fanatics. The CIA/MI6 are already planning a new UPA, a replica of the guerilla army of Bandera. Remember, the Bandera gangs were running wild in the western Ukraine, the Polish and Slovak Carpathians, for four years (1943-47). With no outside support other than initially getting armed by the Nazis (the SS Grenadier division Galicia), they inflicted significant losses on the Red Army, among others, in 1944 managing to ambush and kill the commander of the Ukrainian front, Nikolai Vatutin, one of Stalin’s ablest generals.
Before Biden it was all talk of war on Iran, now it’s Russia. It’s really up to Russia: does it want to take half or all of Ukraine and put up with more sanctions and the unbearable cacophony of the Western media, or do nothing at all? But should Russia move into Ukraine, NATO and the West would not go to war with it; at the most they may provide some of their own soldiers disguised in Ukrainian uniforms.
Maybe Russia should define what NATO is to many Zone B Nations who get raped and pillaged by Amerika.
“Every country has the right to freely choose its allies – including Ukraine.”
Anyone who wants to dictate to another country or exert coercion on it denies its sovereignty. So if Russia wants to prevent Ukraine from becoming a member of NATO, it is denying Ukraine’s sovereignty. The question is whether a state becomes a threat to the sovereignty of another state through its – sovereign – decision?
“Every country has the right to freely choose its allies – including Ukraine.”
Except that the Ukraine is not a country, it is an occupied territory.
It has exactly zero agency or sovereignty.
Plus, as most of us here well know, but apparently needs repeating for a few newcomers, even if it did have agency, there is the matter of whether or not NATO has the right to offer membership, especially if the purpose is to increase a block’s security at the expense of others, thereby violating the Founding Act. It is not just eastward expansion, which by itself probably does not necessarily violate the agreement, but the purpose and intent of that expansion in the current context. This is something most of us Westerners seem to dense to get, even those at the very top who ought to be able to sort out complex issues but do not seem to be at all competent, and I do not mean just in the narrow professional sense of the word.
I’ve come to the conclusion that it makes more sense to simply frame it as waring language/culture groups. For example, English-speaking/thinking/feeling (Anglosphere etc) and in this specific case, Russian-speaking/thinking/feeling bttting up against a mix of European/Pole “Others” etc. The disputed borderlands on which they happen to be testing their boundaries are far less material.
Clearly Ukraine is in a civil war similar to say Sri Lanka’s 25-years which was effectively between two cultures — Sinhalese and Tamil. It only really concluded on the ground when Chinese loans and military aid helped the former. Here again in the Ukraine, it will be a question of who tips the balance and when.
What is problematic for me, a total outsider of the issue, are the narratives and comments that keep referring to “Ukrainians” as a group reference when their are clearly 2-3 sub-groups that do not share much in the way of core values or culture/language. It is a similar logical category issue to when refering to Britain, English, Welsh and Scots.
And lastly, this all impacts on ‘Russian’ discourse that refers to Ukrainian/Ukrainians as if they were an unwanted Jungian shadow effect — e.g., the ‘pension parasites’ that Andrei Martyanov speaks of in his videos. Does he (and those that agree with his point of view) mean all Ukrainians (i.e., as Britons)? Or, just the western non-Russian sub-groups/tribes that probably should be Poles and the like (i.e., just the various English/Scot/Weslh level)?
I’m not sure if it is category error per se, but it’s doing my head in trying to get an organic feel for the complex situation in focus.
Every country has a right to choose its allies,
but not Syria, nor Iran, nor Russia, nor China nor …..
Just like every people has a right to self-determination,
but not Donbas, not Crimea, not …
In my view, the biggest issue Putin needs to solve is how to hit USA/NATO avoiding human casualties but causing a big deal of damage/risk… And ideally not cause old EU to break up with Russia fully… I can think of direct threat to US territory/economy/millitary without EU impact…
The interesting thing is that in the long-term strategic sense, Russia and China don’t need to do anything. They know long-term that China will pass Washington. In a real strategic sense, Russia and China don’t want anything to happen. They can just wait.
And they may not have to wait too long. The USA economy is already tottering. The USA had gone through the banker-mortgage-scam crisis of 2008 by printing money by the $Trillions and giving it mainly to Wall Street. This caused the inflation of the stuff rich people buy, and created a ‘recovery’ where wages and the standard of living for working people never really recovered.
This was already tottering before the Pandemic. In Sept, 2019, the Fed resumed pumping money into Wall Street in what were called ‘repo loans’. This was months before the COVID outbreak in China. Then with the sharp fall at the start of the pandemic, and with the banks all highly leveraged in the same derivative contracts as in 2008, the Fed again began printing money by the $Trillions and handing it out, not just to banks, but to corporations, trading houses, etc.
Except, the old rules were not gone, and the Fed has once again hit the limit in this sort of behavior, which is that printing money causes inflation. Thus the Fed is already in a very nervous position. They need to stop printing money because inflation is beginning to get seriously out of control, but if they take the punch bowl away from Wall Street, it is likely that Wall Street is as addicted to that cheap, free money as any of their opioid addict victims.
The US economy is in a deep bind. Which is simultaneously both a cause for war, and not the place you want to be at the beginning of war.
And of course, all of their talk about a post-COVID recovery was always dependent on getting past COVID, and they’ve been a remarkable failure at that like they fail at everything else. 2500 Americans a day are dying from what they claimed was a ‘mild’ disease.
Russia doesn’t have monetary sovereignty as it prices and sells resources in Empire’s currencies ($, €, £, ¥) and has 60+% of its wealth fund invested in the Empire ($360+ Billion). China has monetary sovereignty and well positioned as it has sovereign monetary policy, fixed exchange rate and not hostage to free capital flows.
Russia and China might move forward with accomplishing what they were planning during the 2008 Beijing Summer Olympics. Will they challenge the U$ dollar’s dominance and start pricing their resources & goods in the respective national currencies? This will be a better way to challenge NATO and the Financial Empire.
Russia ‘planned Wall Street bear raid’
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-26609548
Well… US is still very powerful and will be fading causing a lot of pain to others. So the goal is prevent this potential pain the USA could cause to Russia and this is not something what can wait…
There is also costs to Russian to divert money to millitary budget from economy and social benefits.. The constant threat is draining the country and prevents level of life increase for the common people…
Reports about concentration of Russia millitary ships in Mediterranean sea now… so expectitn this could the centrer of future steps, just wonder how Putin plans to avoid escalating this into nuclear war with millitary response…. does he plan that USA would not start it? I guess it would not if some ships are destroyed, but it would be unprovoked assault …
Nuclear EMP then?
Paul Craig Roberts has a typically forthright, logical take on the situation.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/02/the-world-needs-a-russian-chinese-pax-romana/
Unfortunately Dr Roberts has entitled his piece “The World Needs a Russian/Chinese Pax Romana”, which I feel is wrongheaded. The “pax Romana” was very similar to the US vision of world domination. It would be better to name the joint Russian-Chinese policy after some dominant power from history that attacked no one, but was capable of destroying any nation that attacked it.
Unfortunately none comes to mind.
I agree very strongly with something Dr Roberts says: “The Kremlin’s response to the “failure” of the security talks suggests an unwarranted faith in signed documents, a recurring mistake of diplomats. If a government’s word cannot be trusted, neither can a document the government signs”.
thanks for the update Saker, but a quick question what is your opinion on George Soro’s recent call for Regime change in China and the overthrow of Xie? Soro release a video a few days ago and aside from looking half-dead he was clearly furious with Xie
I think Soro must have lost a lot of money because of something Xie did, perhaps he had planned a rerun of breaking the Bank of England, this time in China by attacking the real estate market and Xie reforms put a stop to it. But what is your view?
He is just a narcissistic demon who spews his hatred.
It’s not that he hates Xi, he hates all of humanity.
I truly, literally, mean it when I call him a demon.
Since regime change, as we have seen it practiced by the Western demoncracies in numerous countries, entails violence, wars, civil wars, and deaths of countless people, including at times the leaders of those countries (Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi), I should think that Chairman Xi, the CCP, and the Chinese people have every right to defend themselves and their lives from the demon George Soros, the instigator of this “regime change”, and his Open Society and other NGO foot-soldiers and agents. Therefore I should hope that PR China will mobilise its intelligence agencies and Triad organisations in a worldwide underground war to neutralise/liquidate/annihilate Soros and his NGOs wherever they show up. I think that is only fair and just, and would spare many more deaths and destruction should his plans come to fruition, and many other nations would also be grateful for such an action.
Speaking of George Soros, here is an article by Heather Cottin from Covert Action Quarterly that, as early as 2002, called out Soros for what he is: the imperial Wizard.
Soros represents the Liberal wing of the American Empire and its financial speculator/bloodsucker class.
This is opposed to the Conservative wing of the same American Empire and its financial speculator/bloodsucker class.
The difference between the two is purely tactical and cosmetic in nature.
American Liberal imperialists like Soror favor destroying and raping nations around the world through Color Revolutions and Human Rights imperialism, while American Conservative imperialists favor destroying and raping nations around the world through bombing and National Security imperialism.
George Soros, Imperial Wizard
https://covertactionmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/CAQ74-2002-3.pdf
Saker:
What`s your thoughts on Putins comments regarding The Crimea if Ukraine join NATO?.
I know The Ukraine are being used to attack the donbass but even theoretically if they succeed that still leaves Crimea?
Would the US put pressure on The Ukraine to let Crimea go to join or is the whole NATO thing a bluff anyway, they know it cant join because of border disputes.
Russia will never allow Banderastan to join NATO.
Why is this so hard to understand for so many people???
By the way,
NATO will never allow the Ukraine to join NATO either (they don’t trust the Ukies whom they all see as potential Russian spies).
You mistaken think that the point for the USA+UK is to “win”.
Not at all!!
It is to set the Ukraine afire and then watch both Russia and the EU deal with this mess.
Divide and conquer, that’s all they want.
Well, very soon there will be nothing left to join anyway. At this point either Russia fails to follow through on the threats (and ceases to exist) or NATO is forced to leave Eastern Europe, and therefore cease to exist, as it would at that point become a truly useless entity with no mission or purpose whatsoever. Right now option #2 seems much more likely than option #1.
What is Russia discussing with France and Germany, or in the Normandy format, if the key element of the Minsk agreement is being rejected by Ukraine?
“Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba says his country will never give special status to parts of eastern regions of Luhansk and Donetsk, commonly known as the Donbas.”
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-kuleba-donbas-special-status/31683203.html
That is EXACTLY what Russia wants.
1) Danilov said that the Minsk Agreements are unacceptable for Banderastan
2) Kuleba said that the Minsk Agreements are unacceptable for Banderastan
3) Ze said that the Mink Agreement are unacceptable for Banderastan
Problem: the Minsk Agreements have been made mandatory by a UNSC Resolution.
Russian will chair the next UNSC meetings
Can you imagine the fun the Russians will have sticking that under the noses of her enemies at the UNSC?
I bet you Russia will demand UN sanctions (the only legal ones under international law) against Banderastan.
Of course,
The United West will block that, but they will have to show their true faces, and that ain’t gonna be a pretty sight.
Thanks, Andrei.
Why didn’t Russia raise the subject of the Minsk agreement at the Monday meeting, asking the UNSC for its enforcement?
In February, Russia chairs the UN Security Council. And at a meeting of the UN Security Council on February 17, timed to coincide with the 7th anniversary of the Minsk agreements, he will firmly raise the issue of Kiev’s implementation of the agreements. In this case, the 404th Reich, the OSCE, Germany and France will be strictly held accountable.
I think your thoughts hit the spot!!!
Just did a quick read/skimmed through (difficult enough to bear doing that much, the rich hypocrasy being very difficult to swallow) the NATO broadside. Then noticed a glaring problem (perhaps due to it being a copy though): I saw no evidence of any official endorsement.
So I brought up the other document, same deal with regard to endorsements. WTF?
Never heard of a “non-paper” either. Sounds like weasel words to me.
PS: RE:
U.S. https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790818/?lang=en
NATO https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790803/?lang=en
No endorsements here, Unofficial translation
Granted, we are talking about drafts and ongoing written rely correspondence. Still, it all looks strange to me. By now we should have the official translation assuming there even is one that was given to Karen Donfried.
After the signing in Beijing of a joint statement on international relations, the President of Russia will meet in Moscow with herr Olaf Scholz and mme Emma Macron.
So Andrei are we also snow niggers?😂😂😂😂😂😂
With pleasure!!!!
Well, to deserve that title you need to
1) live in a cold climate
2) piss-off Uncle Shmuel
if you qualify on both, you are WELCOME!
But, alas,
Neither Canada, nor the Nordic Countries qualify (yet).
But maybe you are from Mars?
https://yaizateamo.myblog.it/wp-content/uploads/sites/324999/2014/10/mars-yankee-go-home.jpg
Cheers
I qualify !!!😂
Will the false flag occur during the Olympics, or would a longer narrative-space preparation be needed? I believe Li’l Psaki made a comment about Russian use of chemical weapons today.
In my personal opinion, it will happen between right now and the end of the month.
I hope I am wrong
@ Saker
I hope so too, but it does not look like it.
Biden is in a war fever, and once a president decides to become a “war president,” which they carry as a badge of honor, we are done for. Stupid Bush II went the same way, as if being a “war president” is an honorific title of the presidency.
Poor bastard Ze had no choice but to shut up, and the Ukrainian people are being subjected to a campaign of terror. “The Russians are coming” is about the only “industry” left for Ukraine, and a lucrative one at that. Billions of dollars are being injected into Ukraine for war purposes, not to uplift the life of the people. War is business, business is war. Nothing new.
We are now at the mercy of the “Deep State”/War Inc., war is in their hands.
I only hope it starts after Feb. 12, give my wife a chance to come back from old bastard Eurostan.
I also hope Russia teaches the West a long-lasting lesson.
Lone Wolf
404 delenda est!
The Western Powers, for more than 500 years are consistently of the believe that Russia is too uncompromising to be able to have under it control such a vast and rich land. So they work in their ultimate objective, which is, to surround, weaken and dismantle Russia. They all have developed different type of scheme. I have read some of Churchill ideas to destroy Russia. The Americans for long have made plans also, including the support of Hitler from the early 30s, plans to nuke theories Union, and later with the subsidies and formation of anti Russian Muslim radicals. Today day speaks with Russia as they did yesterday, saying one thing and planning the opposite. I believe Russia still speak too soft to this sworn enemy that have plotted its destruction for too long already.
This is a Pressure Strategy and the use of every weapon in the toolkit will be and likely is being applied.
The Russian Goal is not capitulation direct to its Ultimatums and show of force.
The Goal is to push the US/Ukies to err, and send the Ukies into battle.
Donbass then is free to counter and the real lesson will be taught.
NATO will freeze or act in split formation and be defeated through insufficient action, with Article 5 sitting useless.
This Strategy of Pressure takes Patience. Putin is king of patience. He waited 17 years for Zircons to fly.
I expect this to go into Summer if the US can hold back. They want to get a technological edge, and they will take a lot of time or defectors who bring out the Russian secrets of the air defense systems, the radars, the EW and especially hypersonic problem solutions. A realistic timeline for the US to directly challenge Russia is at least 5-7 years. This is why they use proxies to do their dirty work.
But the Dems cannot afford a Summer defeat in front of the elections.
So, more likely, March before the Ides. Though there is a domestic reality Biden has to account for.
Biden may need something he can call victory because he has to deliver a State of the Union address on March 1.
He may have an Iran nuclear deal by then. Or another failure to add to his collection.
But a shooting war is not a good story to tell the voters in the State of the Union. Especially a war your proxies are going to lose, and likely, cost you the loss of Ukraine as a state.
very insightful. All actors depend on some temporal measure. Everyone looks at their watches. This impasse has “some” date for definition. It is certainly one of the most important events in history. The few serious people on the planet lose sleep at night. At the very least, a crossroads.
Still, we’re talking about a tiny Cabal who in fact do not particularly represent a particular race/country, however, are glaringly overrepresented by Dual-Citizens in America.
One of the main advantages of burning down Ukraine for Washington is that it creates a barrier of states; Ukraine, Poland, Baltic, who are also anti-Russian and anti-German. This barrier cuts through Germany, it becomes an American ‘wall’ that prevents the Germans from economically linking themselves to Central Asia and China, forever; meaning that Germany never regains true sovereignty and independence. No gas from Russia is allowed, forced to buy gas from the US, which is much more expensive. Germany, forced to remain a walled vassal state, virtually a prisoner of Washington. Washington wants to create a new and better Afghanistan at the heart of Europe. Dragging Russia into a conflict in Ukraine serves multiple purposes. Set fire to Ukraine and hope the Russians burn themselves badly there and the fire spreads to Russia itself, which brings Putin down. Ordinary Ukrainians gain nothing from this. Sacrificed as mere pawns on a bloody chessboard controlled by two great powers. The empire is acting in Latin America. The empire is using all tentacles. Asking Brazil not to connect with Putin: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-leans-brazils-bolsonaro-scrap-russia-trip-source-says-2022-02-01/
No NATO expansion because the US betrayed Russia, so that means if Russia pulls back then the US and NATO moved into Ukraine, they take over Crimea and then come missiles into Ukraine. Absolutely not, it’s time for a war, as the United States is overreacting in its attempt to police the world. And Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic countries are failed states! .. therefore, they must live on remaining Russophobic while their citizens work as cheap labor in rich western countries.
One can already see the pain dial being turned up, calmly proceeding in various places. It is going to be some very rough sledding in the near future. The pople who created these two responses, will be funning for their lives from folks wihin their own realms. My take.
Dear Saker,
May I suggest you to set a new Open Thread, around the question: “In your opinion, what should the Russian Pain Dial consist of?” ?
It would be a brainstorm. Every idea might be posted, and each one would be further developed (or not) based on its real value: the good ideas will be discussed (thus, perfected), the not-so-good ones will be criticized, and the really bad ones will be just ignored.
Who knows, someone gives Putin and Shoigu a bright new idea? ;)
It has been suggested by some posters on “Moon of Alabama” that the loss of all electric power on the Australian Navy’s biggest, (and ugliest) ship was due to the demonstration of a Russian electronic warfare weapon similar to the one that disabled the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea, and that the US dropping of the word “Imminent” was a result.
Also suggested that “Imminent risk of Attack” is a phrase from International Law which justifies a preemptive
Military strike.
It makes sense.
White House/State Department officials today quit using the term “imminent” to describe the timing of the non-invasion which they insist is still coming. Psaki has no further comment on the issue. Boy, is SHE an empty suit.
We should start calling Putin the” empire whisper” Like the horse whisperer only dealing with a rogue empire that thinks it’s the indispensable nation. Putin is winning on all fronts. Almost sad to watch the neocon imbeciles in Washington but it has to happen sooner or later.
@saker
Has this been here yet? (didn’t read all the messages..)
https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1796679/
Making some waves in Finnish and Swedish news..
Thanks for posting this!!
It’s official….. The economy of the PRC is LARGER than that of the entire EU… (26 countries)…
Once upon a time…. The EU economy was the LARGEST in the world!
No more!
As for the PRC vs USA economy… may I remind everyone that > 25 % of the US economy is the FIRE economy… which makes NOTHING!
As for recent happenings… The Laos-China Railway is now hauling Rice from Thailand to Chengdu…
Fruit from China to Thailand… Express Freight 26 hours from Chengdu to Vietaine…
Thailand is fast tracking their portion of the ASEAN rail system…
RCEP is now operating….
SMIC has put 28nm and 14 nm wafers in serial production… 7nm in small batch quantities…
MC-21 now flies with Russian Carbon Fibre Wings… Russian Engines… Russian Avionics…
The Taliban kindly offered succor to a female NZ journalist for Aljazeera, who, thinking herself infertile, had Rampant?? sex with her “partner” (boy friend?? ) The NZlanders, have partners, not husbands, nor wives… That is the norm there.. as I know first hand from my 30 month sojourn there…
This after NZ threw out her 60 page application for permission to return home to have her baby there, FOR THE THIRD TIME…
NATO just figured out that the petroleum cupboard is bare… What will they ever do???
INDY
So Z is screwed, and knows it. Observer R writes that it’s plausible that Z calls for CSTO intervention if there is any CIA inspired threat toward him and his generals. What do you think the chances of this are?
Andrei,
I appreciate your assessment. I think your analysis of the situation is as good as it gets but remember the Master Race isn’t the average Westerner (because our Ruling Elites have nothing but contempt for the average citizen). We should say this Master Race=Ruling Class Elites. Remember the rest of us are just a basket if Deplorables. The Ruling Class sees working class Americans like me as being lower than shit and they have utter contempt for people like me just like they have for Vladimir Putin, Russia and Russians.
This is a Global War for Independence. For Russia and China that means national sovereignty and reclaiming their traditional spheres of influence. In Latin America, Africa and other former Western colonies it means true independence from the stranglehold of the Empire, it’s banks, it’s corporations, it’s intelligence services. For us in the West it also means a return of national sovereignty and economic sovereignty, and reclaiming the freedoms and Liberties that we for too long took for granted. This is a Global War. It’s a class war too being waged by the Master Race=Ruling Elites who would like to enslave us all under a Tyrannical One World Government if the type Bill Gates probably dreams of at night. So let’s unite against a common enemy. For the dignity and freedom of man. What do you think?
the average Westerner always shouts ”proud of our troops”
What can possibly unite the common people than a reflexive mindless ” patriotism “?
The kind that implies that one is a traitor who want their “own ” soldiers to die, if one doesn’t support the particular aggression of the moment. Its the stupidest and most loathsome kind of jingoistic propaganda there is, but sadly it still works with many people.
I have not, “supported the troops” in a very long time. All my friends who were or are in the military I have encouraged to leave the military ASAP. I tell them they are being used. They are cannon fodder.
What I don’t do though is act like the college activists back in the Vietnam War who would spit on the servicemen in uniform. Some of the most Anti-War Americans I have met were Vietnam Veterans who felt they had been lied to and used by their own government.
I am sympathetic in human terms. A soldier should be loyal to legitimate authority and follow all non sinful commands, I know from history that that is difficult to discern sometimes.
Video: White House’s Psaki walks back the “Russia Is Going To Invade Ukraine Any Time Now!!!” narrative.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1488946727059083264
Hi Saker, Will Putin satisfy with secondary demands that were accepted by US. I saw that kind of thing in an analysis published in ant-empire site.
Zed says
The new order, signed earlier that day, envisions growing the armed forces by at least 100,000 troops, extending their contracts and creating 20 new brigades within the armed forces. It also promises to bump up service members’ pay to a minimum of three times the minimum wage, which is currently 6,500 hryvnias ($225).
wonder if the UK’s gift of 88 million will be funding this.
“The EU will act like kids who threw a stone at a window: run like hell, hide, and wait to see what Russia will do. If the markets read this correctly, they should freak out begin a sharp decline.”
That’s a great visual Andrei! Love it!
Remote Viewer (Princess) is seeing an explosion and floodings in a large city. A terrorist attack on a dam in Ukraine?
https://youtu.be/4d9XSoOrdao
“if a big war is about to break up, why are western diplomats being evacuated from Kiev but not from Moscow?”
Perhaps the West is about to dump the Ukraine and are afraid that Ukie mobs would turn after them…
Does this scenario sound plausible to anyone?
For God and Truth. As an Orthodox Christian I can do no other. I guess we’ll be making our final stand in the Heartland of Eurasia, in Hyperborea, in Holy Rus.
Amen. I pray the Lord Grant victory to Orthodox Christians over all their enemies.
By the power of His cross, indeed.
As you may know, it is not uncommon in the USA for a church sanctuary to include a display the American flag… at least among “protestant” groups.
America is essentially the Protestant republic, in its essence, so to have the flag there in Protestant places of worship is a claim of mutual ” ownership “: of America upon Protestants, and Protestants upon America. Others living there have to ” Protestantize” and ” Americanize ” to assimilate into the social fabric.