by Colonel Cassad (Boris Pozhin)
Source: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2677245.html
Translated by Seva
Journalist Roman Skomorokhov proposed yet another version of the murder of Alexey Mozgovoi.
It sometimes happens that the story is over, and it makes no sense to return to it. One cannot revive the dead, whereas issues of honor and memory in some places do not matter, to put it mildly. But as far as this story goes, I could not be satisfied. Frankly, there were too many strange and unexplained things in it.
After the second attempt on his life, we published our opinions and conclusions. Alexey Borisovich (Mozgovoi) laughed at them. Although one of the versions was close. After the third (successful) attempt we made our conclusions without his comments. Almost blindly. To be honest, none of our four hypotheses was correct. Simply because we did not know certain things. So, this is not an attempt to get it right after obvious faults in reasoning, but an attempt to show what actually happened. This is important, as most participants are alive and well, and keep working and serving.
I will tell you straight away, I was digging all these 10 months that passed since the event. Not with the excavator, no, but, rather, with the sapper shovel. Talked to people who could tell me something. Wrote letters. Received answers. Read various opinions and memoirs. But a coherent picture did not emerge.
An accident helped. I got hold of correspondence of Anna Sameluk and Alexey Mozgovoi with one person in Kiev. The main value is in Anna’s letters, as Alexey Borisovich had his own style of writing letters. He detested it. In 1.5 years of our communications I got the total of 5 (five) letters from him containing the total of 107 words. That’s counting prepositions and pronouns. He hated writing and nothing could be done about it.
Authenticity of this correspondence was checked and is not in doubt. These letters were from people who signed them. It does not matter how well I know the writing style of protagonists. Just until March 2015 I knew many things discussed in these letters. Naturally, I was also mentioned in them.
There are a bit over 500 pages. I had to read them all. When I stopped reading and then carefully looked through these documents, a clear picture emerged.
A few words about a person who corresponded with Mozgovoi and Sameluk. He lives in Kiev. He is not a rebel. He collaborated with Anna, helping her to get her informational project off the ground. Quite successfully, by the way. At his suggestion Mozgovoi started talking more about general, rather than specifically military, problems scoring a good number of political points due to this. And the steps that initiated the chain of events were undertaken according to his plan.
So, what happened at the beginning of last year?
Here’s what happened. As soon as the reform started in the LPR (Lugansk People’s Republic) army, the “Ghost” (Mozgovoi’s brigade) was put under pressure. The powers wanted to include it into a corps, or disperse, like they did with the Cossack’s units. I think everyone remembers the indignation expressed regarding these plans.
The key problem was that despite approaches of the LPR powers, Mozgovoi refused contact. He refused the posts of deputy defense minister and deputy minister of internal affairs offered to him. I don’t know whether he would have been a good minister, but the offers were eventually rescinded, and Mozgovoi was left with nothing. In addition, the brigade was falling apart because of the lack of financing and supplies. Importantly, also due to the lack of prospects for the solders. It’s one thing to serve in an official Corps, and quite another – in a unit with doubtful future. Solders were leaving.
As the result, the “Ghost” became a battalion consisting of two companies, mostly locals and people dedicated to the ideas and personality of Mozgovoi. So, by March 2015 there was no brigade, and Mozgovoi was the brigade commander only nominally. That was why the even was so surprising to us. What would be the purpose of his murder? Out of about three thousand originally, he had ~350 solders left. He apparently came to an agreement with Plotnitsky (LPR leader). It appeared that the remainder of the “Ghost” was to be included into LPR Territorial militia. So, why murder? What for? Is it about the parade Mozgovoi wanted to have in Alchevsk on May 9th? But he did not conduct it. Alchevsk Kombinat? Personally, I suspected its owners, but that was not confirmed.
Yet, as it turned out, there was a reason. A very strong one.
In March, when it became clear that brigade cannot be saved in its former shape, it was decided that the military leader Mozgovoi would become the politician Mozgovoi. This was not hard. Mozgovoi, via his brigade, helped the city and its residents a lot. He supplied medicines and food donated to the brigade, took care of retirees and children. He had a whole unit working on this. Unit 088. By March of 2015 this unit significantly bolstered Mozgovoi’s image.
But, as administrative resources were distributed from Lugansk, Mozgovoi had only one path to power left to him: elections. The elections were planned according to the Minsk accords. And he made a tough decision to register civil movement “People’s rebirth”. To revive in the name of the people and on their mandate everything that LPR needs. A good idea. Where this movement needs to be registered? Clearly, not in Russia. Clearly, not in LPR, as nobody in the world would recognize such as registration. Taking into account the nuance that, according to the Minsk agreement, the elections should be held by Ukrainian laws, the movement had to be registered in Ukraine.
One could ask: are they mad? To accept the registration documents from “separatist” and “terrorist” Mozgovoi – how can that be? But the Ukrainian law has this loophole: a civil organization that does not have an account and is not allowed to conduct financial business can be registered simply by notification. There is the Rule #140. Ukrainian citizens send a set of correct documents via mail. Within 3 (three) days after their receipt, the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice must either register, or refuse to register.
There are additional nuances. The petitioner (or one of the petitioners indicated in the documents) must pick up the documents in the Justice Ministry personally and then perform several other actions in order to register. But from the moment that the Charter is stamped “Registered” civil organization officially exists. The registration is deemed completed when one of the petitioners signs the receipt for the registration certificate. I describe this in such excruciating detail to help you understand the effect of these manipulations. In the end, three Ukrainian citizens submitted documents to the Ukrainian Justice Ministry about the creation of the civil organization “People’s rebirth”.
Andrey Kozlov, as a law school graduate, prepared the documents in accordance with the Ukrainian law. Now I have the copies. As notary service in LPR was … Well, we’d better say it was nonexistent, so the copies of passports were notarized not in Alchevsk, but in a different town. The Mozgovoi’s reputation and the cooperation of the OSCE mission helped.
On the indicated day, Anna Sameluk sent the package to Kiev. Naturally, from Russian Donetsk. Here is post office receipt.
Then, on May 5, the package arrived at the Ukrainian Justice Ministry. Here is the scan of its tracking by the Russian postal service.
Having their man in Kiev, they learned that on May 8 the Justice Ministry approved the petition of Mozgovoi, Kozliv, and Sameluk to register the movement. What was going on in Alchevsk on May 8? If someone does not know, there was an anti-fascist conference. There were about a hundred people from all over Europe: Spaniards, Greeks, French, Serbs, Slovaks, Bulgarians. There were also Russians and Ukrainians. It is hard to tell who spread the info that Mozgovoi has a civil movement registered. I found four participants, but only one of them, Zlatko Stoikovich, answered when and how the news about the registration became known. He learned from his acquaintance in OSCE, but by the evening everybody knew.
The conference became the birthday of this new organization. At the same time “People’s rebirth” got international recognition of sorts, as representatives of other civil organizations expressed the willingness to cooperate and help. I do not have proof that the registration was actually accomplished. For obvious reasons. But in this video former chief of staff of the “Ghost” Shevchenko at the funeral say this openly. He and person named “Dobriy” (“Kind”) knew about it. Here is the 6th minute of this video.
I would like to note that the Lugansk authorities were not enthusiastic about this conference in Alchevsk. But they decided not to conflict with international organizations, including humanitarian ones. They got back at Mosgovoi on the issue of the May 9th parade, if you remember. They prohibited that parade.
Let us summarize.
- The brigade commander, now politician, Mozgovoi, registered the civil movement “People’s rebirth”.
- This movement at that time was the only civil organization recognized by Ukraine on the LPR territory after Republic’s de facto separation from Ukraine.
- There was no doubt that this organization wpuld garner considerable support among the people. The grassroots work was pretty good.
- According to the Minsk accords, as far as elections were concerned, Mozgovoi and members of his organization, registered as candidates, would be the only ones recognized by Ukraine.
There was one organization like that in DPR (Donetsk People’s Republic). “MMM” party of Pushilin. But there is a big difference between Pushilin and Mozgovoi…
Personally, I have no doubt what effect this information would have produced in, let us say, the LPR Ministry of State Security, especially presented in the right way.
“Mozgovoi is a traitor! He came to an agreement with Ukraine, they registered his party for the elections! Here is the proof!”
Can you imagine that kind of hysterics in one of the Ministry’s cabinets? I can, too. I also can easily imagine Mozgovoi’s electoral victory not only in Alchevsk, but also in Lugansk.
Indeed, the situation can be interpreted in two ways. Apparently, somewhere it was interpreted in the required way. And we know the result. Disagreeable politician Mozgovoi, with his original ideas about the republic, turned out to be scarier than a brigade commander with three thousand solders, tanks, and “Grad” rocket launchers. One also should not forget about prohibited TV conversations with the Ukrainian Army represantatives.
He was removed decisively and professionally. Without games, like those in May 2014, and without self-made explosive devices, as in 2015. All was well organized.
OK now ask me what happened to Kozlov? The third organizer? I do not know.
Andrey “Sledak” Kozlov was arrested the day after the murder of Mozgovoi and Sameluk. At the beginning, he could call and write letters. He asked friends for help; he needed medical treatment; he was even transferred to the hospital. He had problems with his kidneys. It is rumored that he was being essentially murdered during interrogations. For the last half a year, there is nothing from him. Nobody knows where he is, and it is impossible to find out. There are fewer and fewer people in LPR willing to risk asking. Those in the know believe that Andrey has been dead for some time.
Summary. Alexey Borisovich Mozgovoi was murdered not because of his disagreements with Cossacks. Not because of economic arguments with Alchevsk Kombinat. Not because of actions of Ukrainian infiltrators. Not because of internal betrayal of someone who wanted his position. Although people close to him played a role in these events. But we will talk about it some other time. We believe that the reason was that some pages with writing turned out to be scarier for someone that tanks and artillery. Scarier even than the promised at some point expedition of the “Ghost” to Lugansk. I believe that the question “What for?” is answered. There remain questions “Who is to blame?” and “Who profited?” We think these must be addressed separately, especially considering that there is a lot of information for analysis.
So we will come back to this.
PS. It should be noted that after a year of official investigation, there are no conclusions regarding the organizers and perpetrators of this murder, which shows either the lack of professionalism in the investigation, or that it is mockery. There is similar silence about other murders of well-known people: Ishchenko (Evgenii Ishchenko, mayor if Pervomaisk and one of the Cossak commanders in LPR, killed January 23, 2015; a humanitarian convoy with him an two Russian citizens was ambushed, presumably, by Ukrainian infiltrators – translator’s note) and Dremov (Pavel Dremov, commander of the Cossak Platov’s Regiment in LPR, killed on December 12, 2015; his car was blown up on the second day of his wedding celebration – translator’s note). Recent murder of Plotnitsky’s aide also remains unexplained. Taking into account that before that there was an attempt to justify the unlawful murder of Alexander Bednov (Alexander Bednov, one of the best known commanders of LPR, was shot in his car, with 5 other people, on January 1, 2015, by the LPD security forces – translator’s note) and Russian citizens at the road turn to Lutugino, it is clear that our versions suggests the complicity of the LPR authorities, whom some unintelligent propagandists tried to give the right to murder people.
PS2. Regarding the facts revealed by Skomorokhov, last year in Rostov I have heard a similar, although slightly different version, according to which Mozgovoi allegedly crossed/planned to cross the front line in order to organize communication in the format of TV links face-to-face with the “Ukrainian side”, and this was reported to the authorities. However, I saw no proof of that.
My biggest respect to The Saker for publishing this.
Otherwise: I’m very disappointed and God-darn Angry :(
If that’s really the truth, then everything Kiev has claimed was true. That’s all I say to this. There is no excuse. I want to see the heads roll of those who are responsible. Literally I mean!
(((((
Martin,
Don’t be disappointed and angry,those “comrades” are masters in such behavior.They make only what they have learned from Stalin,and he did just what he had learned from his predecessors.That’s why we never understand this mentality and get angry.That’s why these people are unpredictable,they have their own “laws” of conduct in life.This one of the reasons why Hitler attacked Soviet Union and he lost.I can only hope that NATO will have the same fate.
.> They make only what they have learned from Stalin
[…]
> This one of the reasons why Hitler attacked Soviet Union
You lost me.
Anonymous on March 31, 2016 · at 9:47 am UTC
For some reason my name got lost before I sent the above message (I didn’t click there).
But it really came from me.
Pretty sad if true… seems the LPR authorities are no better than your average thugs. Murdering Mozgovoi and his compatriots in cold blood was not the right thing to do.
Thank you for posting this, Saker, I have always dear comrade Mozgovoi in my memory and felt pain seeing how he was being forgotten.
Well, I am not a usual reader of Cassad, perhaps must be.
So thanks a lot also to Cassad for publish it, Seva for translate it, and Skomorokhov for investigate it.
Waiting for the next series “Who is to blame” and “Who profited”.
So, in the end, we were not so misguided here in the blog when some of us thought about some people in the LPR authorities as culprits…..
I had no idea about this organization “People´s rebirth” he has founded, and I am surprised that in a recent lecture about the Prizrak Brigade which took place here and where the murder of Mozgovoi was mentioned briefly, they do not comment anything about this.
elsi
these comrades are not always comrades at all,sometimes they kill each-other in cool blood for reasons only they know.This is also a Russian tragedy,there is a long history of these things to happen.And nobody will understand out of them.It seems something like tradition to make u-turns.
I understand your dislike and sadness.
Ahhhh, and you say that’s then why Hitler (rightfully???) invaded the Soviet Union?
Wow, one gets smarter by the day …
I think you get it wrong over my comment.That kind of behavior of treason and killing of military or political leaders from their compatriots is a “piece” that can be showed as a bad example and exploited for propaganda reasons in many ways.Hitler took that as tool against SU.Later came the so-called “komissar befehl”.I am not trying to white-wash neither the Germans nor the Russians but I’m not going to kiss somebody’s backyard just for the sake of being a nice guy.As you probably observed,many westerners are posting here comments about communism,many of them without having a clue how was it in reality living and feeling that life on your on skin.There were good things and bad things,there were good communists and very bad ones but never mind,let them to have the bigger piece of bread.The communism by the way has never been achieved.It still a long,long struggle and I don’t want to disappoint any others vision on this regard.Tshüss
> The communism by the way has never been achieved
At least you are quoting Lenin.
BTW: Judging from your recent comments you were in fact kissing somebody’s backyard: Hitler’s.
Maybe in Romania you had a tougher time after 1980 (thanks to western trap-loans called back).
But the endless western claims about “communists getting a bigger slice of bread” were mostly baseless in most other countries.
They lived like normal citizens, without that much of luxury.
The income disparity during leninist/stalinist times was maybe 1:4, but compare it to Hitler’s times (he was not anti-Capitalism oriented at all, it’s all only propaganda, but was brought to power by them and willingly served their interests).
Tshüss
You’re a good guy,and very gentle,thanks … by the way,there is Stalin backyard left free…
(Ich habe mich fast zum tode gelacht)
Martin, one question. Was there a place in Berlin called Volvograd? It was politically impossible for the rulers to buy luxury cars from Natocountries, so they bought them in Sweden. I agree with you about the income distribution in general, but at the very top it seems to have been different.
@ Anonymous on March 31, 2016 · at 5:59 pm UTC
“””””Martin, one question. Was there a place in Berlin called Volvograd? It was politically impossible for the rulers to buy luxury cars from Natocountries, so they bought them in Sweden. I agree with you about the income distribution in general, but at the very top it seems to have been different.”””””
Never heard of that.
The best that the real top rulers drove were Lada’s and Wolga’s from the Soviet Union or Volvo’s (from Sweden). Other western cars were also available to anyone publicly, but of course only in limited quantities: VW Kaefer, VW Golf 1, Mazda 323.
Erich Honecker drove a Citroen.
Also, what do car manufactuers mean?
*Nobody* in my country was a Billionaire, no single person.
And millionaires – as good as nobody. Such Oligarchy simply didn’t exist.
For example, the East-German elite lived inBerlin-Pankow (in East-Berlin) as well as in Wandlitz (a few kilometers north-east of Berlin).
My grandmother was working at a supermarket and her female boss and decades long friend of our family: Her husband was part of the elite. Very simple and more or less money-less people like myself and all I knew.
In 1990 it was possible to openly visit the former elite’s settlement near Wandlitz.
I must say it was well below my and anybody’s expectations (that had been raised and fed by West-TV for decades).
Very humble buildings like in any average communist 0815-joe-sixpack’s garden.
No gold, no marmor and not even western imported equipment. They really lived like us.
It was a worker’s paradise.
Martin – No gold, no marmor and not even western imported equipment. – Do you mean “No imported article outside Eastern Block”?. It seems to me that you were brought up in a such way that everything is “western” if it was not “kommunist”. And it is misleading. For “you” the western was even artickle from kommunist Brasil, Argentina…any country if was not kommunist.
western == from a capitalist country
== from the other side of the divide (no, Cuba doesn’t count as western, although they hardly produced very much which got imported to my world, other than maybe green oranges [the onas that mostly stay green, never saw them again after 1990] and banana, not sure if Rum and tobacco was imported)
What’s so difficult to understand with that?
Further help (that’s a map of a planet, called earth) :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state#/media/File:Communist_countries_1979-1983.png
For hair-splitters: What’s West, East, North, South? The Eart is rotating all the time, around itself and around the Sun etc.
Martin ,
Lol!
Watch for yourself:
(Travel to Kiev in 1983)
Путешествие в Киев. 1983 год
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LaNCTu4jc4
KIEV – URSS – 1984 – КИЕВ – CCCP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BwPaONjXdI
East Germany propaganda- East Berlin 1950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmlT7HzELDY
Berlin, Hauptstadt der DDR Teil 1 / Берлин, ГДР
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZdxuOK3YuE
750 Jahre Berlin – DDR Propagandafilm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNjXYPdXfDc
Olimpiadas Unión Soviética 1980 Apertura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFI0xP5_VaQ
That’s how it really was.
As long as I live I will spread the TRUTH.
p.s. Criminals were still put into a prison during those times.
Now they are free after 2 years, if punished at all.
They used Volvo’s as official government cars for representative purposes.
Also for international luxory hotels (available for rent).
Back then Sweden under Palme was almost a brotherly communist country.
In the early 1950s I was a kid in communist Yugoslavia. My dad was only a banking accountant, never a party member, my mom a housewife. We lived in a modest down town Belgrade apartment. Our first door neighbour was the Minister of Electro-industry in Tito’s cabinet. I played with his kids, my mom was exchanging cooking secrets with his wife, they would occasionally take me in their car when they went shopping. The only material difference between them and us was: they had a free government auto with a chauffeur 24/7 (nobody outside the government had a car), a little bigger apartment, and the access to a special food store that was assigned to foreign diplomats (Western and Eastern ambassadors et al., where you could buy some extra luxury food items). Overall: this was a picture you could not possibly imagine in the United States – or anywhere in the West – ever – then or now (including today’s capitalist Russia, for that matter). As egalitarian as it can be. In Stalin’s USSR things were the same.
P.S.
The government car that I mention was a very simple German-made Opel – 4 seats, manual transmission. Able get you from point A to point B in finite time. No luxury. Similar to http://c7.alamy.com/comp/B4EXXX/car-opel-rekord-olympia-sedan-vintage-car-1950s-fifties-1960s-sixties-B4EXXX.jpg
An Opel from 1955/56, Model 1957 was the first with Panoramascheibe.
Peter, when you talk about Tito’s Yugoslavia, do you talk of period between 1945-1950 or between 1970-1975?
(nobody outside the government had a car)
This is not true.
@ Crazy Natoist on April 02, 2016 · at 12:41 am UTC
Answer the question yourself.
The link that Petar provided shows are car that looks pretty old, like from the 50ties/60ties.
And indeed it contains the substring “vintage-car-1950s-fifties-1960s-sixties”.
During those times really (almost) nobody outside governments had a car, anyway in East-European countries.
Otherwise you are correct for the later periods.
So he can only be talking about the early 1960s of Yugoslavia.
Look what they used for transport back than: Even express trains were operated country-wide on narrow-gauge (!) networks built by the Austro-Hungarians: http://www.penmorfa.com/JZ/dubrovnik2.html
Especially in Bosnia.
They had (still have) lots of inconvenient mountains while hardly having had any real roads (back then). This may explain, why Yugoslavia was one of the later communist countries to widely adopt cars. The last ones btw were Albania and China (past 1990), so in contrast to that Yugoslavia was quick.
My parents told me that in Berlin after the war their played on the streets all day long and that it was a real sensation causing “ohh, wow, look there!” if ever a car would come along. We talk about the mid 50ties of East-Berlin, rather than 1946. So I can imagine in Yugoslavia the situation stayed like this until about 1970.
Thanks a lot Petar, for your testimony, and this is the way for the basics reaching all the population and being able to have a good education and health system, since nobody pockets houndreds of thousands or millions.
What you describe sounds more like the Roehm-Putsch in Nazi-Germany.
Maybe you can also blame it on Stalin somehow?
Night of the Long Knives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B6hm-Putsch
The former secretary of Hitler told investigative journalists that on this day Hitler took a long bath and afterwards told her that he “feels as innocent as a baby now”., something like that.
I will always remember Mozvgovoi.
He was too charismatic and idealistic for his own good.
The oligarchy would have feared his utopian vision – no profits in that.
The smugglers likewise.
Political rivals are also suspect, but I am less inclined to that conclusion – there are always rivals.
I am not sure how Kiev operatives can be excluded: the only Ukrainian civil/political organization registered legally as per Minsk, led by a charismatic socialist, increasingly drawing international attention/admiration was a serious threat to the ‘terrorist separatist’ propaganda on which Kiev relied for financial support from the US – mainly in the form of military ‘aid.’
That would have been a very strong motive, particularly if others used the agreement the same way. A ‘renegade’ and armed ‘separatist’ as you say was not such a ‘problem.’
So for me, the ‘cui bono?’ question still has too many potential answers.
RIP A Mozgovoi. You are not forgotten.
Mozgovoi…Saker, you have my respect for publishing this. Thank you. This seems very carefully and sincerely researched without jargon and axes to grind. Sad. but the wheels of justice grind slowly but they grind exceedingly fine.
I never did buy the “official” version of his murder—it was just too professionally planned.
Civil war, organized crime, local politics, geo-politics. The first three I guess Mozgovoi knew and understood.
Starting a political party that is internationally recognized was ,under the circumstances, moving into geo-politics
WTF?
Such an act of murdering the best (plus others who could report the truth) will poison and kill the dream of Novorossiya.
If even Cassad and Saker are posting the story now you can expect that the locals must have known it from rumors all the time.
It was a young innocent republic that (allegedly?) wanted to make things better than before and/or elsewhere.
Then that (if true).
Like a getting backstabbed by your own brother!
I say no more …..
For what all the deaths and civil suffering then, if this is the result (if true)?
No, it cannot be justified because of “geopolitics”.
Of course I still don’t rule out that it was the Kiev side.
But looks more and more unlikely at the moment.
Justified….. I look at the shit that goes on in this world and words like justified and justice become meaningless. Survival seems to be the name of the game.
The people in Donbass can see a tip of the iceberg and are fighting that. Same in Syria though they seem to have a better idea of what they are up against.
Neither Syria nor Donbass could survive without Russia’s help so they have to trust in whatever larger plan Russia has for all to survive. But perhaps even Russia wont survive. They are fighting an enemy larger than themselves.
…I hate thinking. It gets me down at times….
I don’t know who killed him (only the murderers can truly know that). But I don’t dismiss several possibilities,until we know for certain. My understanding is that Cassad published this first,because he heard it was a rumor floating around. Not that he necessarily endorsed it as true. But yes,it is one of those possible. In reading it though I think the original author left out a fact that seems glaring to me. If Mozgovoi registered his political group under Ukrainian Law then it was a legal group “throughout Ukraine”.And having a legal group able “under law” to operate throughout banderastan was/is a tremendous possible threat to the junta. Even under conditions as they are now. But if “somehow” Donbass did return to Ukraine. It would be even a double threat to the survival of the junta.So while maybe some in the LPR had their reasons to kill him. The junta in Kiev also had equal or maybe more than equal reasons to kill him. So we are really back to “square one”. And “until we know,we won’t know” who did it.
But having gone through that. I’ll turn do an even more important point. If any here are looking for “purity” in this entire Ukrainian affair from 2013 (maybe even 1991) on.Its not there ,so stop looking there. This is a modern day example of “Game of thrones” or “The Borgia’s”. Where the good can also be bad at times. The only fair point is, the bad there are just plain bad,they don’t turn good at times. I support Donbass and Russia,because I think they are correct in this struggle. Not because I think they are “Sainted Angels”.If you are looking for Angels or Saints,you are looking in the wrong place.An equal statement can be said about Syria. No Saints and Angels on the government side there either. But still, that side stands for the protection of all religions there. For the rights of women,Christians,minority ethnic groups,for unity of the nation,and for a secular state. Because of that I support them too.But I never search for purity in Syria ,as well as Donbass.
didn’t he emit some sort of warning like “if anything happens to me tomorrow after may 9th, this will be ….?”
I remember Kristina Kirchner sent the same kind of warning when she had dubious health issues last year and said “if i die soon, don’t look for the culrpits in midle east, but rather in wash—-on”….
I had much respect for Mozgovoi (as well as Kirchner) and of course i’m sad ad want justiice for his murder.
Last year i had an interview with a Russia 24 crew home in Paris, and had a very interesting covnersation with the cameraman, “Dima” who had the chance to interview Mozgovoy in LNR and he revealed me something, not revealing of anything but disapointing, though again not conclusive as far as my resepct for Mozgovoi is concerned.
Bascially Mozgovoy told him something like “i was a muzik, now i’m a soldier which i always wanted to be, and i thank Ukraine for that”
Maybe it was ironical again but it tells something of his personality
anyway just wanted tio share this
Muzik vs. soldier: He was probably making a meaningless joke to some western “Journalist”.
He could also have said “I’m the pope, are you Madonna”?
Else: I can mostly agree with Uncle Bob 1 on March 31, 2016 · at 4:35 am UTC and Peter AU on March 31, 2016 · at 3:48 am UTC
could well be, even though cameraman was Russian, but not into politics at all so yeah might have been distorted in the process or myslef nor being familiar enough with cynical 3rd degree jokes
anyway, among all hypothesis formulated this is th emots credible one
No matter how noble the idea is, we should keep in our minds, and our hearts even more so, that it is implemented by people. Therefore it is plagued by vices and graced by virtues of men. Does it make the idea lesser somehow? Does it make it less worthy to strive for?
There are no perfect men or women,on that we can all agree. But we cannot agree on how to view that fact or how to deal with it.
Mozgovoi took his stand, lived and died for it. That is what those who did/allowed his death thought. But what really happened is that they martyred him, after he took his stand and lived for it!
Those responsible should answer for their crimes,that we owe to the society. To Mozgovoi we owe continuation of his dream. We should focus more on those who would kill this dream than on those who killed him. After all he is dead now but his dream is not. His life is not in danger anymore but his dream is.
Rest in peace Mozgovoi, no matter how we call you-brother, comrade or man. Rest satisfied that your sacrifice gave chance to us to dream the same dream-no matter how we call you. Thank you for that!
the revolution eats its own children ??
danton at the scalfold
The author uses a lot of opinion manipulating techniques in this piece. He also uses a lot of useless filler nonsense to pad out the naritive. This is the sort of thing one finds from conspiracy fraudsters and professional disinfo specialists. The fact is inspite of all that manipulative prose, the author presented zero real evidence to support his theory. Just speculation and unsupported gossip.
There may be something to his theory, but as he presented it, there is more reason to doubt his work is a legit investigative pursuit.
I agree, very unconvincing.
The article says about Mozgovoy: “He hated writing and nothing could be done about it.” Interestingly, Mozgovoy was a prolific poet. Vladimir Suchan has translated and published many of the late commander’s poems. See for example:
http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2016/01/aleksey-mozgovoys-poem-no-57-on-angst.html
http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2016/01/aleksey-mozgovoys-poem-no-59.html
http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2016/01/aleksey-mozgovoys-poem-no-58-first-he.html
A few days after Mozgovoy was killed, George Eliason published an article about the great commander’s contributions and a brief note on the reasons for his assassination related to the end of the Novorossiya dream:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-assassination-of-donbass-commander-alexey-mozgovoy-his-legacy-will-unify-novorossiya/5451713
What Skomorokhov’s theory doesn’t answer for me is why Bednov, Ischenko and Dremov were all murdered as well. It must have been a broader issue than just registering a movement with Ukraine.
Karl, tnx for this reminder.
Until yesterday it was also my theory, that Kiev somehow murdered him (to do that there must be leaks and traitors) to cause unrest and inner hostilities inside Donbass and Russia.
I really don’t know what to believe anymore.
And nobody can know it for sure (except for the [co-]murderers).
But why don’t the investigations appear to make any progress?
The investigations are as sluggish as Maidan by Kiev or MH17 by the Brits.
Normally it is clear what this means.
@ Martin from S.E.B.
Mozgovoy was a victim of US attempts at full spectrum dominance. No matter who took him out, the buck stops with US full spectrum dominance.
What would his life have been without the US takeover of Ukraine…..
Yes, the US destroyed Ukraine, as it destroyed peaceful secular Iraq, and also Libya, Afghanistan, and Syria. A lot of this came about when the neocons gained power during George W. Bush’s reign, followed by puppet-neocon Obama. Imagine what the world would be like today if Al Gore, likely the true winner of the 2000 election, had been allowed to be US President. The world would still be more or less like the 1990’s, with sovereign nations in the Middle East, a growing friendship between the US and Russia, and Ukraine relatively stable (although corrupt), while Donbass remained one of the nicest places on earth. World history took a devastating turn when the Supreme Court illegally pronounced George W. Bush as President. Can we ever recover? Or are we headed for major nuclear war and the total eradication of the sovereignty of nations?
@Karl Pomeroy,
it is all true what you say.
My only addition: Was Clinton really that much better? Look at Yugoslavia (1992-1996) and Yugoslavia.remainder minus Kosovo (1999-2000).
Al Gore is also not a Saint, he used fake Climate Change hysteria to get rich.
But I agree with you that there must have been a reason why they “declared” Bush into office, and with him his cabinet including Cheney and RumsBumsfeld.
It appears as if 9/11 and the policy for a new american century were alreday a decided fact by 2000.
I forgot the barbaric mass-genocides that happened in Africa under Clinton’s rule.
One day all these criminals will be sent to trial, this is a task American people has pending, or in case of its fault, people in the world, when a really functioning International Criminal Court made up of independent judges elected by the citizens for their merits pursuing crime around the world will be a reality.
One day.
One day?
I couldn’t find a single person except you in years on this blog who would really be willing to see the Soviet Union return again.
And I’m not even mentioning that this virtual (non-existing) person needed to fight for freedom or not even to scarifice at leat 1 EUR.
Passively waiting in the best hope for judgement day can take verrrry long, centuries or milennia maybe …
For as long as humans have to die after <= 100 years this method is not effective enough.
I conceived since the start of the events in Ukraine the idea that there is a new kind of ‘social contract’ building, a new form, hence the name People’s republic.
I would like to know if anyone has information about the social issues there, the ‘social engineering’ there, what kind of ‘socialism’ is built there ? What is the ‘political economy’ of this state ‘Novorussia’ ?
It’s out of topic, but Mozgovoi just represented this new breath in ideas, I think.
Resources, please in English, not in Russian. And I appreciate any opinion about this issue.
I think we must understand that all this talk about a sozialist peoples republic may have created an alliance against mosgovoi. Russia, Ukraine, EU and USA are all capatalistic countries.
None off their rulers would want a communist or socialist faction to create a country.
Basically the very monent they called themselves that was the moment their victory
was impossible. Is does not matter much which oligarchs have killed him and others.
As long as they talk about socialism Putin and all his oligarch friends (those who do not want to replace him but just earn a bunch off money) will never let them win.
So baiscally an endless slaughter is predetermined.
Russia will give them to much support to die and to little to live.
All other factions want them to die. And the very moment somebody in kiev gains power who is not against russia putin will let the donbass militias die potentially even help them in the same vain when the US one time supports all quaida an anothertime fights them all depending on the interesss.
greetings
Kotromanic
” what kind of ‘socialism’ is built there”
Naivety of the typical vineyard’s is staggering. Surely, there were many local people in Donbass who nostalgically remembered the Soviet days. At the same time, there were many sincere Russian patriots and Orthodox Christian believers among the spring 2014 Donbass warriors. Lots of people with sometimes contradictory ideals – but willing to defend their dignity in the corrupt world.
But hey, the dream is long gone; the ideals long stolen.
Thank you so very much for continuing seeking Mozgovoy’s murderers… I pray every day for their being found and judged…