This article was written for the Unz Review
The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 did mark the end of the longest experiment in Communism in recent history. Many saw this event as the proof that Communism (or Marxism-Leninism, I use these interchangeably here) was not a viable ideology. After all, if in Russia Communism was formally ended in 1991, the Chinese quietly shifted away from it too, replacing it with a uniquely Chinese brand of capitalism. Finally, none of the ex-Soviet “allies” chose to stick to the Communist ideology as soon as they recovered their freedom. Even Chavez’ brand of Communism resulted in a completely bankrupt Venezuela. So what’s there to argue about?
Actually, a great deal, beginning with every single word in the paragraph above.
Communism – the past:
For one thing, the Soviet Union never collapsed. It was dismantled from above by the CPSU party leaders who decided that the Soviet nomenklatura would split up the Soviet “pie” into 15 smaller slices. What happened after that was nothing more than the result of in infighting between these factions. Since nobody ever empowered these gangs of Party apparatchiks to dissolve the USSR or, in fact, to reform it in any way, their actions can only be qualified as a totally illegal coup. All of them, beginning with the Gorbachev and Eltsin gangs were traitors to their Party, to their people and to their country. As for the people, they were only given the right to speak their opinion once, on March 17, 1991, when a whopping 77.85% voted to preserve the “the USSR as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics in which the rights and freedom of an individual of any nationality will be fully guaranteed” (see here for a good discussion of this now long-forgotten vote). There was no collapse. There was a coup or, even more accurately, a series of coups, all executed by traitors from the Party apparatus in total illegality and against the will of the people. Some will object that the fact that the Communist Party was full of traitors. But unless one can explain and prove that Communism systematically and somehow uniquely breeds traitors this accusation has no merit (as of Christians did not betray Christianity, democrats democracy or Fascists Fascism).
Second, is Communism a viable ideology? Well, for one thing, there are two schools of thought on that topic inside Marxists ideology. One says that Communism can be achieved in one country, the other says that no, for Communism to become possible a world revolution is necessary. Let’s first set aside the first school of thought for a while and just look at the second one. This will be tricky anyway since all we have to judge its empirical correctness is a relatively short list of countries. I already hear the objection “what? Ain’t Soviet Russia, Maoist China, PolPot’s Kampuchea and, say, Kim Il-sung’s DPRK not enough?”. Actually, no. For one thing, according to the official Soviet ideology, Communism as such was never achieved in the USSR, only Socialism. This is why the country was called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Communism was seen as a goal, Socialism as an unavoidable, intermediate, transitional phase. To say that Communism failed in the USSR is just about as logical as to say that a half-built building failed to provide a comfortable shelter. China, of course, has not “failed” to begin with, Pol Pot’s Kampuchea as probably a (horrific) attempt at building a truly Communist society almost overnight, but that by itself contradicts the Historical/Dialectical Materialist Theory of Marxism which states the need for a transitional Socialist phase. As for the DPRK, it’s ideology is not Marxism or Communism, but Juche, at most a distant relative. So no, these few examples are hardly representative of anything, if only because the form a sample too small to be relevant and because none of them qualify as “test case”.
Now coming back to “Communism cannot be achieved in one country” argument, let’s look at it from a pure red-white-n-blue kind of Merican ideological position and remember that the proponents of US-style capitalism like to remind us that Reagan’s arms race is what bankrupted the Soviet Union which could not keep up with it. Other proud American patriots also like to say that, well, the USA brought down the price of oil, making it impossible for the Soviets to continue spending and that thois fall in prices is what made the Soviet economy collapse. Personally, I find these arguments both stupid and ignorant, but let’s accept them as self-evidently true. Does that not show that the USSR collapsed due to external factors and not due to some inherent internal flaw?
Modern training (I don’t call it “education”) does not really emphasize logic, so I will rhetorically ask the following question: if we accept that Capitalism defeated Communism prove that Communism was not viable or that Capitalism is superior? To the many (alas) who will answer “yes” I would suggest that if you lock a hyena and a human being in a cage and force them to fight for resources, the human is most unlikely to win. Does that prove that the human is not viable or the hyena “superior”?
Marxism-Leninism clearly states that Capitalism is build on the oppression of the weak and that imperialism highest stage of Capitalism. We don’t have to agree with this argument (though I personally very much do), but neither can it be dismissed simply because we don’t like it. In fact, I would argument that disproving it should be a key element of any serious refutation of Communism. But to keep things short, all I will say is this: any person who has actually traveled in Asia, Africa or South America will attest that the Communists (USSR, China, Cuba) actually sent immense amounts of aid including raw materials, technologies, specialists, doctors, military advisors, agronomists, water-sanitation engineers, etc. In contrast, ask anybody in these continents what Capitalism brings, and you will get the same answer: violence, exploitation and the support for a local Comprador ruling gang. To anybody arguing with this I could only recommend one thing: begin traveling the world.
[Sidebar: So yes, using the hyena as a symbol of Capitalism in my allegory above is fair. As for the ‘cage’ – it is simply our planet. What I do think is wrong is equating Communism with a human being. But that at this point of our conversation is my own private opinion and not an argument at all. I have been an anti-Communist my entire life, and I still remain one, but that is hardly a reason for me to accept logically flawed and counter-factual anti-Communist arguments].
At this point in the conversation my typical Capitalist interlocutor would bombard me with a fully or short slogans like “dude, in every Communist society people vote with their feet, have you forgotten the Boat-People, the Marielitos or the folks jumping over the Berlin Wall?” or “every single country in Eastern Europe rejected Communism as soon as the Soviet tanks left – does that not tell you something about Communism?”. Usually the person delivering these slogans gets a special glee in the eye, a sense of inevitable triumph so it is especially rewarding to observe these before debunking all this nonsense.
Let’s begin with the feet-voting argument. It is utter nonsense. Yes, true, some people did run away from Communist societies. The vast majority did not. And please don’t give me the “their families were held hostage” or “the secret police was everywhere to prevent that”. The truth is much simpler:
On the “push side”: All the famous waves of people emigrating from Communist societies are linked to profound crises inside these countries, crises which have had many causes, including mostly external ones.
On the “pull side”: In each case, a powerful Western propaganda system was used to convince these people to emigrate promising them “milk and honey” if they ran.
I am sorry if I have to burst somebody’s naïve illusions, as somebody who has worked for several years as a interpreter-translator interviewing applicants for the status of political refugee I can attest that the vast majority of political refugees are nothing of the sort: they mostly are economic refugees and a few are social refugees, meaning that some personal circumstances made them decide that emigrating is better than staying. I have interviewed hundred of refugees from the Soviet Union and all their stories of political repression were laughable, especially to a person like me who knew how (the very real) political repression in the Soviet Union actually worked. To those who would claim that, well, Communism inevitably results in economic crises I would just refer to the discussion above about what, if anything, we can conclude from the few examples of Marxist societies in history.
[Sidebar: Unlike 99.99% of the folks reading these words, I actually spent many years of my life as an well-known anti-Soviet activist. I traveled to various ports where Soviet ships were anchored to distribute anti-Soviet literature, I made list of buildings where Soviet diplomats used to live to deliver anti-Soviet documents into their mailboxes, I helped send money to the families of Orthodox Christians jailed in Soviet prisons and labor camps, I arranged illegal contacts with Soviet citizens traveling abroad (truckers, artists, naval engineers, clergy, circuses – you name it). And there are things which I did which I still cannot publicly discuss. And while I never took part in any violent action, but I sure did everything I could in the domain of ideological warfare to bring down Communism in Russia. As a result, the (now-defunct) KGB had me listed as a dangerous provocateur and posted my photo in the offices of specific Soviet offices abroad (like the Sovhispan in Spain) to warn them about me. And let me tell you the truth – most of those Soviet citizens who disliked the Soviet system never even tried to emigrate. The issue here is not hostage families or the “almighty KGB’ but the fact that you love your country even when you hate the regime in power. Worse, most of those who did defect (and I personally helped quite a few of them) were mostly miserable once they came to the West, their illusions shattered in less than a year, and all they were left with was a ever-present nostalgia. For that reason, I personally always advised them not to emigrate. If they insisted, some did, I would help. But I always advised against it. Now, many years later, I still think that I did the right thing].
Finally, as to the Soviet “allies” in Eastern Europe their rejection of Communism is as logical and predictable as their embrace of Capitalism, NATO, the EU and the rest of it. For decades they were told that the West was living in peace and prosperity while they were living in oppression and misery, and that the evil Russians were the cause of all their unhappiness. The fact that, when given the chance, they then rushed to embrace the American Empire was as predictable as it was naïve. Remember, history is written by victors and only time will really tell us what legacy Communism and Capitalism will leave in Eastern Europe. What we do know is that even though the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan resulted in a horrible and vicious war, and even though the people of Afghanistan also appeared to fully embrace the “kind patronage” of the USA and its allies, things are now already beginning to change and that the years of secular rule and even the Soviet occupation are now being re-visited by an increasing number of historians and Afghan commentators who now see it in a much more nuanced way than they would have in the past. Just a simple comparison of the daily life of Afghans before and after the Soviet invasion or a comparative list of what the Soviets and the Americans actually built in the country tells a very different story (even the Americans today are still using Soviet-built facilities, including the now infamous Bagram air base). Careful for the logically-challenged here: I am not making an apology for the Soviet invasion here, all I am saying that the wisdom of “embracing the other side” cannot be judged in the immediate aftermath of a “switch” in allegiance – sometimes several decades or more are needed to make an balanced assessment of what really took place.
My point in all of the above is simple: the official imperial propaganda machine (aka “the media” and “the educational system”) has tried to present a simple narrative about Communism when, in reality, even a small dig a tad deeper than the superficial slogans immediately shows that things are much, much, more complicated than the crude and comprehensibly false narrative we are being presented with.
Communism – the future:
Here I will immediately lay down my cards on the table and state that I believe, and even hope, that Communism is not dead and that, in fact, I think that it still have a long and most interesting future. Here are a few reasons why.
First, the Communist ideology, as such, has never been comprehensibly defeated, if only because no other ideology comparable in scope and depth has emerged to challenge, nevermind refute or replace, Communism. For one thing, Communism is a *huge* intellectual building and just destroying some of its “top floors” hardly bring the entire edifice down. Let’s take a simple example: the Marxist slogan “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”. Marx did not really invent it, he just popularized it. Some sources say that the original author was August Becker in 1844, Louis Blanc in 1851 or Étienne-Gabriel Morelly 1775. Other say that it was Pierre-Joseph Proudhon but with slightly different version “From each according to his ability, to each according to his work”. This was the version accepted in the USSR as being applicable to the socialist transitional phase on the path to the full realization of Communism. Then, of course, there is the famous New Testament quote by Saint Paul “if any would not work, neither should he eat” (Thess 3:10) and the words of Christ Himself about “to every man according to his ability” (Matt 25:15). This all gets very complex very fast, but yet this is hardly an excuse to ignore what is one of the basic tenets of Marxism-Leninism. And there are many such key tenets because Communism cannot be understood, nevermind evaluated, outside a much broader discussion of Dialectical Materialism, itself an adaptation of Hegelian dialectics to historiography, all of which serve as a foundation for Historical Materialism which, in turn, offers a comprehensive critique of the nature of Capitalism. There is a reason why a good library on Marxism-Leninism could easily include a full floor dedicated solely to the teaching and criticism of Marxism-Leninism: this body of teaching is huge, and incorporates history, sociology, economics, philosophy and many other disciplines. Just Materialism itself includes a huge corpus of writings ranging from the Pre-Socratic philosophers to Nietzsche’s “God is dead” to, alas, Dawkins sophomoric writings. If we honestly look carefully inside Marxism-Leninism we will see that there are such philosophical pearls (or challenges, depending on how you look at them) on most levels of the Marxist-Leninist building. Before we can declare that “Communism is dead” we have to deal with every “floor” of the Marxist-Leninist building and bring down at the very least all the crucial ones least we be (justly) accused of willful ignorance.
Second, the Communist ideology offers us the most comprehensive critique of the globalist-capitalist society we live in today. Considering that by now only the most deliberately blind person could still continue to deny that our society is undergoing a deep crisis, possibly leading to what is often referred to as “TEOTWAWKI” (The end of the world as we know it) I would question the wisdom of declaring Communism dead and forgetting about it. After all, informing ourselves about the Communist critique of Capitalism does not imply the adoption of the Communist solutions to the ills of Capitalism any more than pay attention to a doctor’s diagnosis implies a consent to one single course of treatment. And yet what our society has done is to completely reject the diagnosis on the basis that the treatment has failed in several cases. How stupid is that?
Third, the corpus of Communist and Marxist-Leninist teachings is not only immense, it is also very diverse. Leninism itself is, by the way, a further development of Marxist ideas. It would be simply illogical to only focus on the founding fathers of this ideology and ignore or, worse, dismiss their modern followers. Let’s take a simple example: religion.
It is a well-known fact that Marx declared that “religion is the opium of the people”. And it is true that Lenin and Trotsky engaged in what can only be described as a genocidal and satanic amok run against religion in general, and Orthodox Christianity especially, while they were in power. For decades rabid atheism was a cornerstone of the Marxist-Leninist ideology. And yet, if you look at the various Marxist regimes in Latin America (including Cuba and Venezuela) you rapidly see that they replaced that rabid atheism with an endorsement of a specific type of Christianity one could loosely describe as “Liberation Theology”. Now, for a hardcore Orthodox traditionalist like myself, Liberation Theology is not exactly my cup of tea (full disclosure: politically, I would describe myself as an “People’s Monarchist” (народный монархист) in the tradition of Lev Tikhomirov, Feodor Dostoevsky, Ivan Solonevich and Ivan Ilyin). But the point here are not the inherent qualities of the Liberation Theology (or lack thereof) but the fact that Latin American Marxists have clearly ditched atheism. And whether they did that out of a deep sense of spiritual rebirth and renewal or out of cynical power politics consideratons is irrelevant: even if they had to cave under pressure, they still did something which their predecessors would never have done under any circumstances. So now instead of denouncing religion as reactionary, we have leaders like Hugo Chavez declaring that “Jesus Christ was an authentic Communist, anti-imperialist and enemy of the oligarchy”. Sincere? Possibly. Important? Most definitely. I submit that if such a central, crucial, tenet as militant atheism could be dropped by modern Marxists they are probably willing to drop any other of its part they would conclude are wrong (for whatever reason). To conflate 21st century Communists with their 19th century predecessors is unforgivably stupid and ignorant.
Fourth, modern Communism comes in many original and even surprising flavors. One of the most interesting one would be the in the form of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Of course, modern Iran is hardly a copy of the old German Democratic Republic. Ramin Mazaheri, the Paris correspondent for Press TV put it best when he wrote “Europe came to socialism through industrialization, theory and war, but Iran came to socialism through its religious and moral beliefs”. And make no mistake, when Mazaheri compliments Iran on its “socialist” achievements, he does not oppose the notion of socialism to the one of communism (Mazaheri is a proud and self-avowed Communist) nor does he refer to the “caviar Socialism” of the French Left. Instead he refers to “socialism” as a set of underlying values and principles common the the Marxist and Islamic worldviews. It is often forgotten that one of the main ideologues of the Iranian Revolution, Ali Shariati, was clearly influenced by Socialist and even Marxist ideas.
Iran, by the way, is not unique in the Muslim world. For example, the writings of Sayyid Qutb 1906-1966 contain plenty of ideas which one could describe as Marxist. I would even argue that Islam, Christianity and Confucianism all include strong elements of both universalism and collectivism which are typically associated with Marxist idea, especially in contrast to the kind of bloated hyper-individualism underlying the Capitalist worldview (which I personally call “the worldview of me, myself and I”). Sure, the modern doxa wants to label all forms of Islam as retrograde, medieval and otherwise reactionary, but in truth it would be far more fair to describe Islam as revolutionary, social and progressive. But let’s not confuse the nonsense spewed by the Zionist propaganda machine at those poor folks still paying attention to it with reality, shall we? Surely we can agree that the worst possible way to try to learn anything about Islam would be to pay attention to the US Ziomedia!
Communism – the challenge:
It is not really surprising that the Americans, who have not defeated anybody or anything in a very long time, might be strongly inclined to adopt the notion of having won the Cold War and/or having defeated Communism. In a country were adult and presumably educated people can declare with a serious face that Obama is a Socialist (or even a Communist) such nonsense will very rarely be challenged. This is a reflection of the poor state of education of a nation which fancies itself as “indispensable”, but which has no real interest in understanding the rest of the world, nevermind its history. We can now make fun of the putatively dumb Commies, their “scientific Communism” and their university chairs of Marxism and Leninism, but it remains undeniable that in order to understand the Communist propaganda you needed to have a minimal level of education and that this propaganda exposes you to topics which are now practically dead in western societies (such as philosophy or history). When I see the kind of nonsense nowadays which passes for political science or philosophy I can only conclude that the once proud western world now lacks the basic level of education needed to understand, nevermind refute, Marxist ideologues. And that is a crying shame because I also believe that Marxism and Communism are inherently both very attractive and very toxic ideologies which must be challenged and refuted.
[Sidebar: What I personally think about Marxism is not really the topic today, so I will limit myself to saying that like all utopian ideologies, Marxism promises a future which cannot ever happen. True, this is hardly a sin unique to Marxism. Amongst modern ideologues Hitler should be commended for his relative modesty – he “only” promised a 1000 year long Reich. In contrast Francis Fukuyama promised a communism-like “end of history”. This is all par for the course coming from atheists who are trying to simultaneously reject God while (unsuccessfully) imitating Him: a utopian society is what Satan offered to Christ during the temptation of Christ in the desert (Matt 4:1-11) and also the reason why some Jews rejected Him for offering them a spiritual kingdom rather than then worldly kingdom they were hoping for. Right there there is plenty enough, at least for me, to reject this and any other ideology promising some kind of “heaven on earth”. In my opinion all utopian ideologies are inherently and by definition Satanic].
Can the huge corpus of the Marxist/Communist ideological building be convincingly refuted? I think that it can and, assuming mankind does not destroy itself in the near future, that it eventually will. But that will require an effort of a completely different nature and magnitude then the collection of primitive slogans which are currently hurled at Marxism today. In fact, I also believe that Orthodox Christianity already has refuted Marxism by preemption, many centuries before the birth of Karl Marx, by denouncing all its underlying assumptions in the Scripture, the writings of the Church Fathers, the sayings of the Desert Fathers, the Lives of the Saints, its liturgical texts and icons, but in our post-Chrstian society that refutation is accessible only to the tiny minority of those who are exposed to it and who are educated enough to understand it (a good example of such a person would be Fedor Dostoevskii).
For the foreseeable future Communism has a very bright and long future, especially with the ongoing collapse of the Anglo-Zionist Empire and the subsequent debate on the causes of this collapse. Living in the United States one might be forgiven for not seeing much of a future for Communism, but from Southeast Asia to the Indian subcontinent and from Africa to Latin America the ideals, values and arguments of Communism continue to have an immense appeal on millions of people. When Donald Trump, during his recent UN speech, presumed to have the authority to lecture the world on Socialism he really only showed that ignorance is no impediment to arrogance and that they really usually go hand in hand. If his intention was to speak to the domestic audience, then he probably made a few folks feel good about themselves and the political system they live in. If he truly was addressing a foreign audience, then the only thing he achieved was to reinforce the worst anti-American clichés.
For the time being, the the spectre of Communism will continue to haunt much of our planet, especially in those parts were education and poverty are high. In the basically illiterate but wealthy world Communism will remain pretty much as it is today: universally ignored and therefore unknown. But when the grand edifice of Capitalism finally comes tumbling down and its victims rediscover the difference between propaganda and education – then a credible modern challenge to the Communist ideology will possibly arise. But for the time being and the foreseeable future Communism will remain not only alive, but also quite undefeated.
Communism is not dead, but disorganised and disheartened after more than a century of relentless onslaught by the “irresistible might” of Anglo-Capitalism. My Atheist Communist friends are growing old, but they remain as true and trustworthy and caring as my Christian Socialist friends. Christianity was the first Communism, and Christian Socialism still burns with a quiet steady flame in the conscience of many individuals. For a critique of the Anglo-Zio-Capitalist Empire from the viewpoint of the Catholic Church, here are two books written more than a century ago, as fresh as though they were written yesterday. On the Empire read, “The Crimes of England” by GK Chesterton. On the MSM read, “The Free Press” by Hilaire Belloc. Both are free on Librivox.
you’re likely aware that the highest proponents of communism are officially atheis, with some calling it the opiate of the masses. So would you explain ” Christianity was the first communism “.
The early Christian treasurer struck dead for witholding from the common stock. St.Martin giving half of his cloak to the beggar. St.Francis renouncing wealth, as the Buddha did 18 centuries before him.
“It is easier for a cable to thread through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to push himself through the gate of The Kingdom”.
Your thesis is that wealthy men can’t enter heaven? In addition, were there no wealthy “communists” in the various countries throughout the last century that styled themselves communist?
Finally, for now, I’d like to hear an explanation of their attitude towards Christians what with Ch/ty being the opiate of the masses and comm countries being officially atheist and how that corresponds to Christianity being the first communism.
Read the first part of the Book of Acts. It tells how in the very first iteration of the Christian Church most everything was shared. I don’t know if that qualifies it as “Communism”, as people seem to take the capital “C” word in a larger political/economic sense talking about “means of production” and stuff like that. This describes more of a local sharing and mutual trusting not to cheat, hence the tale of the couple who are struck down for pretending to bring everything while secretly holding out. This all describes more of a cult (in a non-pejorative sense) or something more like a 20th century small scale commune than it does political communism, but it’s a lot more favoring of the latter than it is of anything like self/individual-oriented capitalism.
JoinbarAR, how does this differ from localism, tribalism and Bakunin’s anarchy – all of which I approve of. A clan or tribe self-defines through endogamous occupation of a local territory and the tribe shares among itself.
You need to understand that opium was meant as a medicine to soothe pain, hence the opioids of present times, in that sense you have to understand what is meant: a palliative for suffering.
Read the first part of the Book of Acts. It tells how in the very first iteration of the Christian Church most everything was shared. I don’t know if that qualifies it as “Communism”, as people seem to take the capital “C” word in a larger political/economic sense talking about “means of production” and stuff like that. This describes more of a local sharing and mutual trusting not to cheat, hence the tale of the couple who are struck down for pretending to bring everything while secretly holding out. This all describes more of a cult (in a non-pejorative sense) or something more like a 20th century small scale commune than it does political communism, but it’s a lot more favoring of the latter than it is of anything like self/individual-oriented capitalism.
There is still quite strong support for communism in pro-Russian eastern European countries and Russia itself, in pro-USA eastern European countries, Communism is associate with Russia and Russia is of course hated, as one would expect from countries were the media and government is controlled by USA.
In the west, communism has been twisted and totally destroyed, western communism is basically about racial hatred against whites, hatred against family values, hatred against heterosexuals, hatred against Christians and hatred against men, and hatred and contempt against local workers.
Western communism has abdnone class struggle and now is engage in racial struggle or minority struggle, where every minority thing, from race to sexual perversion is elevated to the most sacred and every majority thing such as heterosexuality is spit upon.
This obsession with blaming men in skirts for everything is the real perversion.
Here are some valid questions about moral standards such as gender roles:
1) Why are people failing to believe in them?
2) What larger significance does it have?
3) What can we do to fix those issues?
Paul’s comment addresses none of these questions.
Communism is dead is true in the sense that the western world has be become more illiterate than ever. The german concept of Bildung describes this concept of illiteracy better. This concepts describes the idea that a basic knowledge of culture, history, science etc. is necessary to be capable to do a fundamental critique. Being able to read and write is not sufficient.
The author demonstrates this by confusing former and later forms of organizing life together. Neither early Christians nor Venezuela is Marxist. Marx gave us an explicit critique on capitalism to make his reader capable to do critique but no recipes how handle such an issue, because a good critique leads to right actions. He believed when systematic conflicting interests are removed from a society, such a society will be based on the principle of collaboration, because competition for basic needs is irrational. This is quite different to the ideas of the Marxist orthodoxy, when virtues like sacrificing, internal competition and solidarity were repeated every day and the state as a power to guarantee basic needs was holy. Thus the degeneration of communist party in the USSR was consequential, when Marxism-Leninism was nothing more than a hollow concept.
The content of modern media is mostly stuff for the uneducated masses and is supporting the policy of the state unconditionally. Basically the worship of free speech has become nothing else then spitting out anti intellectualism. It’s not restricted to the US either.
Capitalism is destroying this planet for the profit of a few oligarchs and even fails at providing the most basic needs like food and housing. The standard of living in Eastern Europe under capitalist rule is much lower(mass unemployment, hunger, slavery, war, epidemics, homelessness) than during socialism. Even polls in Poland admit that: https://archive.is/g8GVE
The return to capitalism has a similar effect(depopulation, deindustrialization, much lower birth rates) there like the “Generalplan Ost”.
Over 30 million people starve to death every year under capitalist rule. Capitalists can only maintain thier murderous regime with never ending terror and genocides (colonialism, two world wars, threat to wipe out all of humanity in a nuclear holocaust etc.). The British Empire alone murdered over 300 Million people to enforce capitalism.
“British have invaded nine out of ten countries”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html
“The British in India: Slavery and Famine
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Th British deliberately caused famines in India, in order to force the indigenous population into relief works, such as road-building. The tenant-laborer, writes Carey, “is mercilessly turned from his land and his mud hut, and left to die on the highway.” Here, Indians on their way to the relief works, published in the London News, 1874.”
http://cecaust.com.au/foodcrisis/H%20Carey%20British%20free%20trade.pdf
US empire enforcing capitalism in Indonesia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcvH2hvvGh4&t=11m
You confuse Socialism with Charity.
There is very little Charity in Socialism.
There is coercion and forced redistribution at best, to complete lack of individual property to charitably dispose of at worst. By accepting this at face value, you leave Christians with little opportunity to practice charity.
No learned Christian can be a Socialist. Sharing and Charity are not virtues that require Communism.
We shall all be judged individually since the day Christ relieved us of our Collective sins.
The Saker:
Maybe I’m too quick writing those lines, but I’ve got some problem with the term Soviet invasion. That’s what we – in the West – had been told over and over by main stream media. Some articles on alternative media that I have read in the past three years weren’t as hard with their choice of words. Indeed, the Soviet Union shouldn’t have gotten into this conflict, but they seem to have been dragged into the mess by assisting those Afghans who wanted to have closer ties with the USSR.
Actually the CIA deliberately provoked the Soviets into attacking and invading Afghanistan, like they did with North Korea in 1950. They started smuggling in Mujahideen mercenary fighters from Saudi Arabia and the guns to arm them with into Afghanistan in June 1979, the Soviets attacked in December.
I agree though, they shouldn’t have gotten into this mess.
They shouldn’t have gotten into this mess…
No, they shouldn’t have gone away. After Gorbatchev pulled the troops out, the duly elected Najibullah’s government resisted alone for three years against western puppets.
Compare Afghanistan before and after western invasion (there was never a “Soviet invasion”. Afghan government had called them in). It was a progressive country. Anti-communists destroyed it.
The Afghanistan government formally the invited Soviet Union, just as Syria invited Russia.
So it was definitely not a “Soviet invasion” at all.
From Wiki:
“During meetings between President Taraki and Soviet leaders in March 1979, the Soviets promised political support and to send military equipment and technical specialists, but upon repeated requests by Taraki for direct Soviet intervention, the leadership adamantly opposed him….”
They ultimately changed their mind, and I would say thankfully so: I think the Soviets were there to defend the socialist Saur Revolution. Equal rights to women, universal education, land reform – this was a twin revolution with Iran, let’s agree.
People may not realize just how close Iran and Afghanistan are – I would see you run is even closer with them than with Iraq…and they are very close with Iraq! The two nations compose the Iranian Plateau – protected by mountains on either side, and thus destined to be safely trapped in the middle of everything. The words of Khomeini – “neither East nor West” – truly apply to both modern nations and not just Iran. In 1979 Afghanistan was weaker, smaller and poorer than Iran, so they needed help – and other nations wanted to control them just as they wanted to control Iran’s revolution but could not.
One thing appears certain: when America does finally leave, Afghanistan will fall into the Iranian orbit, as has always been the case historically, culturally and even geologically. Both countries will be working with China, which is when they have had the greatest success and sovereignty. And the Soviet “attempt at assistance” will be remembered in a far far far greater light in the American invasion.
But it was definitely not an “invasion”. Gorby’s withdrawal left Afghanistan at the mercy of reactionary forces, and was a betrayal of the socialist ideal of assistance to other socialist countries. It might have been easier for the Soviets to withdraw, but it weakened their own internal constitution and commitment to upholding socialism, as well as their ability to fight off the west’s capitalists, which ran the Russia into the ground in the 90s.
I agree with the view that invasion isnt the proper term.
There was a connection with the Shah’s regime in that the still free members of the Mujahedin evolved to Marxism due to the strikedown on the elite members of the islamic opposition. Britain had organized the Shah’s secret police and Mossad were assisting them. So anglozionism played a decisive role in bringing about the kind of political genre which was later established in Kabul.
Knowing what we know today the Soviets might be viewed as liberators.
Saker,
I grew up after 1991 and I have never been a fan of Communists. In fact, during the years 2011-2014 I would have described myself as “alt right”. But I have felt the same winds blowing, and a few days ago I ordered a copy of Marx and Engels to read through for myself. I think you have put very well in this article why the ghost of communism may be haunting us all in the years to come. What you have written here requires further elaboration and contemplation.
When Communism first swept the world in 1918-1950, the capitalist world had many promises it could make in response: more growth and prosperity for everyone, more freedom. The capitalist world also existed in much clearer hierarchies, both social and racial, which made people feel comfortable. We are now in a situation where none of that applies. Hierarchies have been destroyed, the economy is shrinking, the environment is devastated. The world appears to be moving towards a situation where a small number of techno-elites live essentially without limits while the rest of us work as serfs in the service industries or elsewhere.
Who can answer those very visceral arguments? I see the wave of Internet memes that “communism already failed, get over it” as containing a bit of anxiety and fear within them. Remember that the Communist Manifesto opened not with a call to arms, but with a statement about history: “The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.” And while the communists and other socialists in America have been unable to change any of the distribution of material wealth, it is hard to deny the fact that they are changing the way history is seen and taught.
How can we respond to consequences of this new history: that the world needs radical change, that anything is better than the system we have now, that violence may be necessary to complete the struggle? If Americans cannot respond to those in the third world who would make such arguments, how can they respond to their countrymen posing the same questions? I imagine that if any group understands the problems America is facing, it is those Russians who have spent a lot of time in America, or Americans who have spent a lot of time in Russia. How oddly convenient that the American bureaucracy and media elite has made an immense, unending effort to convince Americans that anyone with a Russian name is not to be trusted.
Those “comforts” that capitalism offered, they were in response to and to counter the growing influence of communism, to discourage the masses from rebellion, to prevent social revolutions at home. Now that the “communist” system is gone, those comforts are no longer needed (they cost, too, but they no longer pay). Yes, new enslavement is upon us (the working masses). This was the idea to begin with, but the 1917 Revolution and the subsequent ascent of the Soviet Union got in the way big time.
On that note, I should have specified that when I wrote that racial/social hierarchies “made people comfortable,” I of course meant that they made the majority comfortable at the expense of the minority. I’ve been making some major slips recently when I try to get an image down in writing… I need more meditation and less anxiety!
This is a very interesting piece. While a totally classless/stateless ‘communist society’ may never come into existence in the modern world, it’s clear that socialism has a very bright future indeed. China’s market-socialist economy (which, in part, is influenced by the early USSR’s NEP system) is now already the world’s largest (in GDP PPP figures). It is only a matter of time before many developing countries seek to emulate China’s success. The coming decades will be an ideological crisis for the West’s neo-liberal ideologues.
Hello, I’m looking for a good written historical book about the fallen of URSS and related stuff. May you please give me any hint? Thank you very much
As the Oxford don said about the French Revolution, it’s a bit too early to write a proper historical book about the fall of the USSR. But for a short but meaty article (packed with graphs and statistics) on the renaissance of Christian Russia, you might read “Putin’s 17th Year — the Score Card”. I read it on the Off-Guardian website.
I found “Socialism Betrayed 1917-1991 (Behind the Collapse of the Soviet Union)” by Roger Keeren and Thomas Kenny, 2010, Universe, Inc., very insightful. In particular, it documents how Gorbachev’s henchmen, and soon Gorbachev himself, from early after his coming to power, intended to dismantle the Soviet Union, and how they did it. It seems very well documented.
Also, the entire recent works of Grover Furr gives insight into how different the Soviet Union was under Stalin than our Cold Ward picture of it. (I’m somewhat inoculated against that picture: I can still remember the end of WW2, when the Russians were seen as our friends and allies. Also how puzzled and surprised my older relatives were by the change. They distrusted Churchill more.)
Seconded on “socialism betrayed”. An indispensable book, published in dozens of languages.
Very good article. LIttle typo here: “First, the Communist ideology, as such, has never been comprehensibly defeated.” Of course, that should read comprehensively defeated.
I think Christian doctrines lead one to the conclusion that we are in the “end times.” I doubt that there are any collective solutions at all, but only individual ones. So I doubt that communism has a long and bright future. Rather I see the table being set for the Antichrist.
A little humor here. The b and the v do change the meaning of the word, most definitely, but not to worry. The context is clear, the intended meaning is understood.
Meanwhile for hundreds of millions of people, at least, b and v are actually quite interchangeable and very often switched accidentally or even purposefully, as a matter of preference, adding further richness (some would say “confusion” ….) to the human experience.
In a Spanish speaking land I overheard someone using a word with a “v” in it and one of the listeners was confused by their pronunciation and intended meaning and asked whether they intended “v” or “b”. The answer: “Yo quiero decir “b”…….b de baca.” (I intend “b”…b of baca….)
Cow = vaca most definitely with a “v”……but not for everyone.
Same with “Communism” and “Capitalism” or even “chair”. Language is metaphorical and no two people perceive metaphor exactly alike.
That unability to distinguish “b” and “v” was already there before the Romans arrived to the peninsula.
That made one Roman writter say that the Vascones were actually very lucky people, indeed, as for them “vivere est bibere” (or the opposition, that works too) (in latin, vivere = to live; bibere = to drink)
Hey guys,
may I add my smart ass wisdom to the already existing thread? Well, … whatever the answer maybe, I’m going to write anyway.
If you consider the Russian heritage of The Saker you’ll inevitably come to the conclusion that his mistake could be based on the pronunciation of the Russian b (spoken by a Russian it sounds like a Western v). Whenever you see the Russian name BEPA you instantly know it’s exactly the same corresponding Western name VERA.
Maybe. but there is a simpler explanation: I just don’t have the time needed to seriously proofread my text. That, and I am a messy writer anyway :-(
cheers!
Would your doubt have anything to do with a specific, highly ideological, interpretation of human rights as fundamentally and exclusively rights pertaining to an individual? In other words, can you conceive of there being actual collective human rights, which are on an equal moral and philosophical footing to individual rights?
and do not forget the deadly Shibboleth of Biblical fame….
I’m not that sure about the meaning of the quote religion is the opium of the people. Since we can’t ask Marx anymore, we can only guess. You could as well interpret the statement as a way to describe the indoctrination used by some Priests/Imams/Rabbis. Each religion has some radical preachers who’re agitating against other denominations and religions. Just look at all the evangelical preachers who’re making millions of dollars and denounce everything free as socialism/communism. A pastor named Joel Osteen made it into the news, because he didn’t offer victims of Hurricane Harvey shelter. Maybe Chavez was closer to the truth than many of his critics assume. Think for a second about some guy giving away food for free. Sounds communist? Well, … didn’t Jesus feed thousands of people listening to his ministry? He even dared to heal people – without being a medical doctor. Further didn’t he charge those he had healed. Pretty communist behavior, wouldn’t you agree? I remember to have read an article on consortiumnews (by Rev. Howard Bess or Gary G. Kohls) that mentioned that carpenter had been one of the lowest levels in society. So, “the son of a carpenter” smashed market stalls in a church and drove out the money changers. Can you imagine those multi million dollar preachers reactions to similar acts in present times?
That’s what people praying to nowadays: $
That’s what people should be praying to: God/Jesus
We’re living in strange times.
I think that what Marx meant, possibly, was that common people could not afford opium, but they could afford religion. So religion was to the common man what opium was to the aristocrat
>I’m not that sure about the meaning of the quote religion is the opium of the people.
>Since we can’t ask Marx anymore, we can only guess.
But we can read a more complete quote, that would help a lot:
“Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.”
This is hardly irreligious. On the contrary, it is quite sympathetic.
Opium used to be prescribed as painkiller in earlier days. It did not cure or heal the problem, but it did help in temporarily forget the problem. And it was addictive.
Religion provides a sort of window to forget the real problems in life .. for a short duration. But it does not solve the problem. It may be also termed as addictive. Probably Marx compared Religion with Opium for that specific reason only.
Thank you for that full quote. It changes much.
In fact, if you replaced the now-contentious word “opium” with the word “balm” or “salve”, you would have a very compassionate declaration.
Anonymous:
Thanks for this input. Regarding Marx I’m quite a beginner. I’ve read several (often negative) things about him, but actually never read any of his works. If the most recent, more sympathetic, accounts of his work are closer to reality than my previous knowledge of him, then he can be considered as a sociologist who studied the economic situation of his period and who tried to find solutions for the identified problems.
Thanks for posting Marx’s full quote – it is not a denigration of religion, but a denigration of the terrible and unjust social conditions on earth.
We must agree on the unjust conditions on earth and remedy them with Marxism, but we do not have to agree on what are the conditions in heaven.
Also going one paragraph before that passage, we read:
“Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But, man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man — state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world […]”
Clearly, Marx is sympathetic to religion, or at the very least understanding.
As for his comparison to opium, Jenny Marx (his wife) writes to Engels on 12 April 1857:
“Dear Mr Engels,
One invalid is writing for another by ordre du mufti [i.e. for Karl]. Chaley’s [i.e. Karl’s] head hurts him almost everywhere, terrible tooth-ache, pains in the ears, head, eyes, throat and God knows what else. Neither opium pills nor creosote do any good. The tooth has got to come out and he jibs at the idea.”
http://www.marxistsfr.org/archive/marx/letters/jenny/57_04_12.htm
In other words, if the dentist-phobic Marx was writing today, we would be talking about the “aspirin of the people”, which he himself consumed.
Engels himself, albeit by no means enamored with religion, condemns the Blanquists of the Paris Commune of 1874 for their compulsory interdiction of religion, at least as a counterproductive tactic:
“And this demand that men should be changed into atheists par ordre du mufti is signed by two members of the Commune who have really had opportunity enough to find out that first a vast amount of things can be ordered on paper without necessarily being carried out, and second, that persecution is the best means of promoting undesirable convictions! This much is sure: the only service that can be rendered to God today is to declare atheism a compulsory article of faith and to outdo Bismarck’s Kirchenkulturkampf laws by prohibiting religion generally….”
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1874/refugee-literature/ch02.htm
He goes as far as making direct comparisons of the early Christian communities with the first steps of Socialism, in that both were a movement of oppressed masses os slaves (or proletarians). Christianity promised a salvation in an afterlife (vs this life); early churches had financial problems like the socialist movements (“le cotisations ne rentrent pas” vs Paul’s to Corinthians Epistle); both had false Messiahs in their early steps (Proteus Peregrinus vs Georg Kuhlman), each spreading their own heresies.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894/early-christianity/index.htm
Far from being anti-religious, Marxism and Communism ARE a religion, albeit a materialist one, to the extent of being both teleological (the final end is Communism) and Messianic (a salvation of the world’s proletariat). However, in Communism, salvation will not come after death, but in this life. And as people are not purely rational, materialistic and amoral beings (the “homines economici” of neoclassical economists), but merely combine such behaviours with irrationality, spirituality and morality, it is clearly deficient.
I agree with your post. The religion as opium ? I would say,it is much more than that,it gets at some point even complicated because – as you say – the variety of religions and related cults, many of them have a very earthly approach in the sense of power and influence on the people(including politics) On the other hand, the opium is meant to heal a pain or as a mood “helper”. The religion acts in a much deeper way in the conscience of people, with leading examples from their books, as examples of behaving within communities. It is not something surreal : you noted Jesus as one example, if that is a communist behavior ? well, in my eyes it is, that is the way a communist should be. Because very few people can behave in such a way, that kind of communism is not reachable, at least in the near future, maybe not at all(on this earth we live now) The communist ideology has tried to get something similar by denying any higher Universal value (in other words, God) We can also mention Spirituality, which has been totally rejected by the ideologues of the communist system, a failure which later has come back as a boomerang effect : you cannot build a society only with material attributes and means, meanwhile neglecting the spiritual roots of every living creature. The time of truth came in practice in Soviet Union at the time of Stalin with “Barbarossa”, then Stalin had realized the need to let people exercise their religious feelings. He probably realized that there is some power which is much greater than he thought. Communism without spirituality is dead. Socialism is a viable alternative for a better society, with small steps and rectification when needed. But for that, we have to think globally and act locally, without jumping at the extremes. But hey, there is the Empire now, will he let this happen ? if not, dead solves all problems.
Well, have a read of “The Opium of the Intellectuals,” (“La Trahison des Clercs”)by Julien Benda.
I like your simple arguments, feeling that Jesus’ simplicity was
the most comprehensive of all. Your thoughts seem to me to come
out of feeling, trying to communicate the worth you are feeling.
It’s the simple communism is the communism of anyone in-dividual’s heart.
WQithout that there is no communism.
The satanic emulation is to forge it as a being of a herd. This opens the door to every lie. Cause the herd are guided by signs of attitude. The herd inevitably leads to something else than everyone’s heart.
Jesus pointed at that. His Gallilea and Jerusalem was Washington/Hollywood
ruled by phariseans like before hour eyes.
If the individuals aren’t ‘communist’ in heart there will never be any such thing like ‘communism’.
Cause communism is invisible, an attitude of the heart.
The quote referring to religion as an ‘opiate of the people makes reference to opiates being both an addictive and destructive drug, but also as a powerful medicine that takes the pain away. In this way Marx shows his disdain for religion but simultaneously recorgnises it’s necessity to make the lives of exploited masses bearable. The marxist view of religion and how to ‘deal with it’ follows from this, religion will be around until circumstances are created where people no longer need it to take away the pain of daily life.
Maybe Marx had in mind the fact that many ‘religions’ effectively used opiates in their initiations, ceremonies, feasts. Like the pseudo-religions of today.
The very idea that Communism is dead because of the failure of the USSR is nuts, isn’t it. It’s not a rational conclusion. It’s like saying: because an early attempt at a mechanical flying machine failed after a few hours in the air – that means artificial flight isn’t possible.
Communism, like any other ism, is a pseudoReligious-social-economic-political system. The early incarnation may have eventually come apart. But knowledge has been gained in all fields. The failure wasn’t a failure in principle. For communism to succeed, it needs to be self-sustaining .. ie. after a generation or so, it should able to sustain its essential structure without the force of central command. And, significantly, it should be self-adaptive according to local social-political-economic circumstances (eg. elements within the US may be organizing terrorist and/or economic attacks or creating artificial ethnic divisions in particular regions.
.. just a thought.
Political, religious or economic ideologies are all utopian ideologies. The difference is that some like communism are directed at a real world utopia, and others (Christianity, Islam) at an other world after death utopia which cannot be attained in the real world. All require a certain type of coersive compliance in the real world. They all enable “rulers” to justify the persecution and oppression of those they rule over, and the privileges they provide themselves.
Good one, sir.
Blue:
The Ten Commandments are for the present and not for the world after death. It would need to the members of those Religions to keep to them. I don’t know of any statement in the New Testament that says that The Ten Commandments only apply to the interaction between Christians.
Keep in mind: It’s humans who’re distorting each and every word in their favor.
This is good. I want to mention that The full opium quote would add important nuance, it’s not a crude, brusque dismissal of religion. In Anti Düring, the definitive summary of Marxism, Engels clearly states that the only way to defeat religion is through education. That’s still naïve, but shows Soviet repression was not textbook.
It’s worth mentioning that Before 1917 Rosa Luxemburg told Lenin that Vanguard party democratic centralism would create a bureaucracy that would eventually collapse under its own weight. Rosa was the rigidly Orthodox-Marxist, while the Bolsheviks pointed to Marx’s call to innovate & change with the times, calling Rosa an ‘infantile leftist.’
The point about the nomenklatura, not any Western effort, breaking up the USSR is supported by Yegor Gaidar, included it in my masters thesis.
Too me the key flaw in Marxism is the faith in human reason and technique/technology to rationally, predictably, and beneficially re shape society and the world, eventually into a Utopia- but to me that isn’t the point. Marxism is just radical liberalism, they fully share this key flaw. Marx mostly just remixed radical ideas from the liberal French Revolution. Anything is bound to fail which doesn’t take account of irrational, capricious human nature, subconscious motivations about which we lie even to ourselves, and that which lies occluded behind the iconostasis in the human heart.
Exactly why Communism is dead.
It never could achieve “maturity” without dying from its inherent “nature”.
It is doomed to fail by its own DNA.
You nailed it with your comment. Rosa knew it. History proved it.
The ironic viability of capitalism is that it “fits” human nature with all its flaws, and it provides for adaptability and evolution.
I would like to read your Master’s thesis if this comment is indicative.
“The ironic viability of capitalism is that it “fits” human nature with all its flaws, and it provides for adaptability and evolution.”
in light of Capitalism being the enabling framework in which we find evidence that everything is a rich man’s trick I found your statement, er, ironic.
It does fit the very worst of human nature – perfectly.
Most of the world’s capitalism is small business, local, and very creative at its soul.
You see only Capitalism (megaliths of banking, finance, weapons producers, polluters.
I see family farms, stores web-based artists, music groups, etc.
That’s capitalism. Hundreds of millions of entities and a billion enterprises on all continents.
So, if you look at the maturity of humanity from barter upward, you see Phoenicians creating checking, not Chase or the Fed. It’s like that in human progress.
Larchmonter445, you see Capitalism as it was written by Adam Smith.
Capitalism in his mind was about small business and competition the seed of which was in his observations of English Cottage Industry. Unfortunately two things conspired against that, the Industrial Revolution and Corporations, the first of which was the British East India Trading Company.
For me, a good understanding of Marx and his writings is to also understand the time period in which he was writing. The role of Empire, Corporations, Worker Exploitation and Suffrage and so forth that was indicative of Victorian England – a quite disgusting period for the majority of British to live in. His writings/critique inspired many workers to rise up and fight for their rights as productive elements in society even if they didn’t undergo revolution as had happened in Russia.
Unfortunately with the demise of the USSR, the rights of workers has been gradually destroyed and wage growth has been stagnant in the West since the 70’s. In some Western countries like Europe is has actually been negative in the name of productivity.
Couple that with the State Sponsored Terrorism in the West and throughout Latin America and South East Asia to discredit Socialist and Communist Movements and we are where we are today.
I look at all the former republics of the USSR and cry at what has been done to them in recent decades. I see what has been done by the “Capitalist West” against many countries around the world and am greatly saddened. II do believe though, the West, lead by the AngloZionist Core are due for blow back. The current state of affairs is seriously broken.
Also there is hope in the leadership in other parts of the world, sane, rational, fair leadership. May it be given space to grow and for a better world to emerge as a result. For now, the Emperor has no cloths and this certainly pertains to the AngloZionist West.
Communism was promulgated by two guys living in London and in the pay of the Rothschild’s. It was directed against the East, especially against Russia, which needed to be destroyed. The bankers brought Lenin to Russia from Switzerland, while Trotsky was brought from New York City, where he lived the high life, being driven in a Rolls Royce. Before he went to Russia, Trotsky recruited 500 New York criminals, who were given the status of “communists”. Lenin’s duty was to destroy the Russian monarchy, which he did, as well as the Russian Orthodox Church, which was the sole of Russia. The only reason Lenin did not destroy Russia as a country was because he died in 1924. A commission of 40 doctors was assembled to ascertain why he died. Of them, 11 signed a medical report that he died due to complications of the attempted assassination, while 39 refused to sign the report, as they knew he died from syphilis.
Communism and socialism will never disappear as ideologies. They become popular every time capitalism is abused and exploitation and poverty appear.
This article is an example of what is known as “goy-baiting”.
Amazing insight, backed by a profound understanding of the issues at hand.
Superb, thank you!
The Saker
Regarding goy-beating.
If you believe Miles Mathis, Lenin appears to have had jewish ancestry on both sides. Mathis even suggests both sides were inherited military nobility. And that the official story about originating from a freed serf doesnt stand up to scrutiny since since that supposed former serf was allowed to learn science at a school exclusively for military nobility or something similar.
There is no guarantee about Mathis research being reliable, but he points out important things about genealogies for many significant historical figures being suspiciously scarse and often seemingly scrubbed. With that in mind much greater scepticism regarding sensitive historical narratives is proper. And Mathis research may be one place to look in order to be initiated to that mode of thinking.
B.F.:
Here we go again … I go along with your assessment that Trotsky and Lenin probably got sponsored by several sides in order to weaken Russia. Nevertheless I think that they were serious in their attempts to establish another economic system (even if their motivation had been to become “rulers” of the new system).
They become popular every time capitalism is abused and exploitation and poverty appear.
I’m pretty sure Communism can be abused as well. The point that I don’t get is about the abuse of Capitalism. Poverty is part of Capitalism.
Poverty is the natural state of humanity. Birth entitles a human to pursue a life by means afforded by the circumstances of his birth.
Capitalism is a system some societies use.
It doesn’t create poverty any more than it creates wealth. It allows poverty to be erased and wealth to be created. Individuals create. Not the system. (If unregulated, capitalism causes a lopsided society with no middle class and many dependent on welfare and grants.) Generally, it enriches societies which lifts people out of poverty.
We have 30 years of China to observe. Over one million millionaires. More billionaires than any other nation. 500 million up and out of poverty. Capitalism did that. Not pretty, not perfect. But the only system that can do it. Chinese state managed worked for them. Other nations like Russia have their evolving version. US had its. South Korea and Vietnam have theirs. None of these versions created poverty.
“Poverty is the natural state of humanity”
It is when your boss earns 386 times what you do resulting in: One in every eight workers in the UK – 3.8 million people – are now living in poverty
“We have 30 years of China to observe.”
We also have 27 years since the demise of the USSR and Most Russians regret USSR collapse, dream of its return, poll shows
In China itself, we have:
Why The Chinese Are Getting Richer But Not Happier
“So what can explain the Chinese experience of decreasing happiness and life satisfaction alongside so many being released from poverty?
…[]…
In China, like many other societies around the world, the rich have accelerated away from the mean income level rapidly, leaving the rest of society looking on jealously. It’s just that in China it has happened very quickly and so the results are particularly pronounced.
While many Chinese are getting richer in absolute terms, they are not getting richer in relative terms; on the contrary, relatively they feel poorer. As average income levels are pulled higher by the small minority of rich and super-rich, more and more people feel poorer in comparison. As a result they feel less satisfied with life and less happy. This is exactly what seems to have happened in China in the decade between 1990 and 2000.
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Capitalism did that. Not pretty, not perfect. But the only system that can do it.
Ever since “The Fall” (Garden of Eden), mankind has been unhappy about his “deal”. Life became temporal. Pain was felt. Living necessitated effort. The globe filled with “others”. Disease and impairments were common. Humans began to understand the deficits that accompanied their fall from grace.
To blame capitalism is very convenient. But it is a misfire.
Life is hard and cruel because humans have the capability for sin, vices and misery toward others.
Ideological constructs that pit Communism and Socialism against Capitalism miss the essence of what Life is as a human.
Once we left the life of bans and tribes and matured into villages, cities and nations, the hopes of people became political. And politics seeks ideological rather than practical, useful and effective answers. Thus, we are debating ideologies rather than grasping effective measures to solve the problems facing humanity.
Capitalism as a process works. Capital (including human creativity, invention, innovation) solves problems. Investment works. Growth and profit are good.
And just like any other thing “human”, Capital carries the sins and weaknesses of Humanity. It is the nature of the Universe. Elements have characteristics that identify the uniqueness of each particle. All human activity, regardless of system or process will carry the pluses and minuses.
Greed and elitist monopoly are products of human nature.
Married to political power, as Globalism, Progressivism, Liberalism, these vices are toxic, no doubt.
I don’t see them as a product of capitalism. They are what humanity is capable of on the negative side.
It is why we have Rule of Law. Humans are capable of crimes. We need laws, rules, cops, courts and prisons.
That’s Life.
Capitalism did not do that in China.
China is a one-party Communist system.
Some people just can’t give credit where it is due….
The Communist Party system did not rise up 500 million Chinese and the nation to wealth.There is no mechanism of “Chinese characteristics” in their economic system that links to “Communism” as their economic system. They manage and direct their capitalism but it isn’t Communist theory. It’s common sense. Where the Communist Party operates below the national control over SOEs, they have massive waste and ghost cities, massive fraud and corruption. That’s Communism in China. Provincial and local city miasma of the worst aspects of bad ideas and process.
Aside from that, there is no credit to be given a stultifying ideology except by true believers who can’t take off the delusion lenses and see the facts of reality.
Capital pored into China from the West and capitalist Asia nations like South Korea and Japan. Foreign Direct Investment it is called. Check it out.
“That’s Life.”
I remember shaking hands with Margaret Thatcher once in the 1980’s.
If I were given the opportunity again i’d have wrung her neck.
The free-market right promised cutting taxes for the wealthy would make us all better off. But new research suggests that when the rich get richer, the poor stay poo
Here we go again: communism presented as an alternative to capitalism, whereas they are the two faces of the same monster. Cut off from tradition, there really is no hope for mankind.
I agree with you! When I read the Communist Manifesto in my early teens I was stunned to the marrow: this man Marx wants to destroy individual man! When I visited East Berlin as the wall came down I was stunned by the buildings and faces, deaths of incentive showing everywhere. The savage inhumanity of unregulated capitalism is clearly visible in the West. Yes, communism and capitalism are faces of the same monster. May we evolve out of both!
Your comment on tradition reminded me of Dr Jordan B. Peterson’s work, whom I discovered this year. Here are two videos I could find on the subject, among hundreds of his videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXm7kTggz9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnXhtBuFcHg
I highly recommend. Profound analyses, which I believe you will like.
Concerning the mass migration of peoples from communist Eastern Europe to the capitalist west. Well that migration continues as the huge wave of peoples are deserting every – and I mean every – east European CAPITALIST states from the Baltic to the Black Seas, from Estonia to Bulgaria, continues with a seemingly unstoppable momentum, with all of these states facing a depopulation, demographic time bomb. It’s like the old East European saying, to wit: ‘Everything the Communists told us about socialism/communism was a lie, everything they told us about capitalism was true.’
Interestingly, i have recently read almost exactly the same pronouncement in Russian, made by a former Soviet rock musician of some renown, except that he said, “Much of what they told us about socialism and communism was a lie…” I think, it was 50/50 with the lies on communism, at most. But yes, all they told us about capitalism was 100 percent true – we know now.
Lee Francis:
You’re correct with the “mass migration”. Now many of those migrated people of Eastern Europe (Romanians and Bulgarians) are sleeping in the streets of Western cities. Others are competing with local craftspeople and thus driving down wages of the local Western inhabitants. Others are kept as wage slaves by Western companies. I’ve seen several documentaries of people tricked into coming to Germany and being stuck in a shabby apartment that has to be shared with other workers for an extremely high rent. They don’t seem to have time to think if they may hate the Western Capitalist system, because they’re too exhausted. The creative Eastern Europeans use the freedom of movement and Capitalism for burglaries or internet scams.
Meanwhile, there is a reverse trend in motion : a number of born westerners are buying land and houses in certain eastern countries, good fertile land, beautiful nature, less dense populated areas, friendly people.
This is true. I have first hand experience :)
I think it might be interesting to speculate about the possibility of a social, economic and political structure which is neither communist nor capitalist. In the late 1940s Bruno Rizzi, James Burnham and George Orwell talked about a system of what they called bureaucratic or oligarchal collectivism.
The question on Communism yes or no is not relevant because there simply is no alternative and when achieved it will be the start of real civilisation. Will it be easy to get there? No, and it might even take 1000 yrs or more. The necessity of Communism can be easily anderstood as follows: (1) everything is realised by nature and labour, so (2) labour is the creative force, (3) Communism will mean simply that the creative force is also in charge of its results. And yes a lot of other things have to be organised also. It will be the main task of the intelluctuals of good will to help in the required process.
Kind Regards, Ben
I hope the Saker will write in a future article how Orthodox Christianity refuted Marxism by preemption.
Isn’t there something wrong with the question “if we accept that Capitalism defeated Communism prove that Communism was not viable or that Capitalism is superior?”
On unz.com the question is almost identical, but “prove” is replaced by “proves” there. It still makes no sense to me.
Shouldn’t the question be something like this: Does the fact that Capitalism defeated Communism prove that …?
I read some Marx recently but gave up for the sake of self preservation.
This guy was some kind of obsessive compulsive. Sheesh!
Ideas that compel others to obey are immediately doomed by the diversity of human personality.
Within my own very close family, we have conformists and rebels, accumulators and givers, philosophers, troglodytes and daredevils.
Marx’s work might be seen as a monumental waste of time, until one remembers he was descended from a long line of Rabbi’s. His contribution to the rise and rise of Jewish wealth and power should not be underestimated.
“Ideas that compel others to obey” .” – this is also true for the capitalist system : try not to obey the orders of your boss, see what happens.
“are immediately doomed by the diversity of human personality” – this is also true, the diversity of human personalities is a gordian knot in reaching a perfect society based on equality and justice. While the understanding of common priciples and a path on which we want to build a better society (perfect is too much) meets so many obstacles, ups and downs will continue.
You may remember an infamous goalkeeper for Liverpool F.C. years ago who took bribes to fix results in the English Premier League.
The whole team played the game in the same spirit except for him.
10 personalities expressed their individual abilities, using each other for the benefit of the whole. Defenders, attackers and schemers in the midfield created many goals and stopped many raids.
But one guy (perhaps the most important man on the team) was there for himself.
The FA dealt with him by a lifetime excommunication from the sport.
What else can you do?
Very happy to see you back, and stronger than ever, if this essay indicates your state.
Somewhat off-topic, but I couldn’t help but be reminded that Gilles Deleuze died before he could complete what was supposed to be his next book, was to be entitled “The Grandeur of Marx”. Given what he drew out of Nietzsche, Spinoza, and others (Hume, Leibniz), I would love to have a glimpse into it.
I highly recommend Deleuze, and consider him far above the hipster postmodern taint, with which he is associated, mostly by accident of time and place. He was around, modern, and brilliant in May 1968, so associated with characters of the time. Himself classicist conservative in habits, maybe classical-liberal in intellectual politics.
As a teenager during the end of the Cold War, I was exasperated by the narrative of The Defeat of Communism. Not one myself (by what definition the question was always begged), but determined to push towards a more comprehensive shared plane of reference, i.e. exactitude in terms of shared definitions of abstract things. Seems to me that with terms like Capitalism, Communism, Fascism, etc we are only in muddy waters with laughably fuzzy variable definitions, and the only shared object is the token of enunciation — the word itself –, not the thing abstract so denoted. There are many, vast and complex sets of things which are more or less denoted by these tokens. So more intellectual labor needed to draw out the tools that will work to great effects.
Myself I’m a Thomas Jefferson worshipping (not Koch-bros) Libertarian, but appreciate the centrality of community in the matrix of human development, and have a lot of respect for various syndicalist ideas…
That’s my meta-thesis on the topic. Put more simply, I offer no opinion on the subject, except to say that the basis for a clear discussion on the subject is not possible without comprehensively defining in a shared way what is at hand and at stake. You’ve done well in this regard.
Recommended:
“What is Philosophy” Gilles Deleuze & Felix Guattari :: .epub file
https://libgen.pw/download.php?id=1434817
I would add Mille Plateaux
@“Jesus Christ was an authentic Communist, anti-imperialist and enemy of the oligarchy”.
“Christianity was the first Communism”
If Christ was a ‘Communist’ (and the first one at that) and Christianity the ‘first Communism’, why early Christians viewed Jesus as “the Lord”, Kyrios (κύριος), master, “King” (βασιλεύς)? “King of Kings and Lord of Lords” (Βασιλεὺς βασιλέων καὶ Κύριος κυρίων)? why did He say: “All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth” (ἐδόθη μοι πᾶσα ἐξουσία ἐν οὐρανῷ καὶ ἐπὶ γῆς)?
Indeed.
The nature of God (if that deity exists) seems akin to a psychopath who created its creation in order to have the adulation of, relatively speaking, ants.
Saker put it well: “me, myself and I”.
If this is our creator there is no hope.
Communism is nothing else than the Utopia, the Kingdom of God on Earth. The idea that God created the world for the endless enjoyment of the ‘me, myself and I’ of children arrested in their cognitive development at the stage of egocentrism, who think that everything is due to them and throw tantrums at any opposition to the fulfilment of their whims.
You didn’t finish your statement – that could be why it doesn’t make any sense.
WizOz:
If Christ was a ‘Communist’ … , why early Christians viewed Jesus as “the Lord”, Kyrios (κύριος), master, “King” (βασιλεύς)? “King of Kings and Lord of Lords” … why did He say: “All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth” …?
Your comment doesn’t contradict my previous comment (Anonymous on October 12, 2017 · at 1:22 am UTC). It’s quite the opposite it complements my lines. Being a King doesn’t imply being oppressive. Many human kings (this includes presidents and other politicians with similar powers as well) on earth acted on the behalf of their material desires. Jesus on the other hand served the people he is ruling over (John 13:1-17). Which human king did anything similar or would do so?
The Bible is full of references (those passages can be found on the internet) is full of references regarding materialism (for example: You cannot serve God and riches. Luke 16:13-15).
For those who may come along and point to the Parable of the talents and try to twist it in a way that it suits full fledged neo-liberal capitalism, I would like to quote an interpretation that can be found on wikipedia:
His entrustment to his servants of his possessions while he is away on his journey should be Christ’s gifts and various possessions (“capital”) given to the believers in his church in anticipation of them producing a spiritual “profit” for Him in the kingdom of God. While he is away, he expects his believers to “’Do business with this until I come back.’” (Lk. 19:13).
Finally, before ending this comment, I would like to point out that Jesus wasn’t against tax collecting (Luke 19:1-10).
Complete equality is illusionary, nevertheless a more just society could be possible. By the way events are unfolding in the past few years I fear that time is running out for creating a more equal and just society. Too many signs that correlate with End Times Prophecies seem to appear at an ever faster pace.
Bolshevism (if not Communism) is bringing sexy back. The history of ideas must be cogitated and digested or else reflux results.
“If, as Nicolas Berdyaev claimed, “independent Russian thought was awakened by the problem of the philosophy of history”, America’s purveyors of wickedness glossed our version of the history problem by vexing us to the restive sleep of irresolvable terror.
Certainly our Cold War synthesis was attenuated into a false proposition such that Bolshevism must be reengaged, this time on domestic soil. (Commentator Ben Shapiro likens America’s current schism to a reenactment of the Weimar’s Brown Shirts versus Reds; though in fairness, the latter is well-evidenced, the former less so.)
Charlottesville is but an early skirmish against an ideology that might easily have remained consigned to the ashcan of history –-had history been allowed to wash up onto American shores. Had history been allowed to happen. Contrast this avoidance strategy with the Russian experience, an authentically suffered-through and digested historical chapter which delivered that nation, by dialectical necessity, to a more advanced version of itself.”
http://giantstepspress.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-devil-hates-russia-plus-hes.html
Oligarchical houses are spread all over the world. Both systems, communism or capitalism seem to work if the oligarchs adhere to the 30/70 rule. 30 is the percentage of plundering allowed in order for the system to work at peak efficiency. Both groups use the same toolbox.
The “individual” in relation to “the group” seems to be a key function yet still to be figured out by humanity. Both, communism and capitalism quell individualism not a synonym to selfishness. Tidbits of this problem are spoken about in some religions and elsewhere.
I don’t believe any salvation will come from either oligarchical group run thru state or corporation.
Granted the corporation one has lost all footing, rational and emotional. The other side smells their demise and is working feverishly to overthrow the latter and succeeding. In the end, oligarchs are oligarchs and their parasitic nature resurfaces with a vengeance.
I don’t perticulary like both groups or want to life under any such group.
Seems to me that conflating “ideology” with Marxist theory is illogical and inaccurate. And it serves dark forces to mix them up.
“Marxism” as an “ism”, and thus as in fact an ideology, is another matter…and essentially anticommunist as it seeks to stop time and suppress adaptive changes. Ultimately ideologies fail because they inevitably attack the young…as we see argued in a specific way at https://off-guardian.org/2017/10/09/the-end-of-the-cold-war-and-shakespeares-macbeth/
So there are two entirely distinct “Marx”…one is a frozen attempt to stop time. The other Marx is as it has always been, a useful method of inquiry.
Now then the foundation of communism and M Theory is the benefit to the working class. If there is no working class there is a crises, a singularity. And a new understanding of class and work becomes necessary. Marxist Theory, being an evolving method and not an ideology, will attempt naturally to create such necessary solutions to this crises. An ideology cannot do this because it cannot adapt indefinitely, but only in limited ways.
As we see in the example of American Ideology today…unable to cope…they even hired a clown…and the navy seems to be mutinous… Empires of the Sea People fail when they make the error of suffering a great naval defeat… (Hey T Man…ya wanna bring those ships back to the safe harbors, or lose them in the Chinese Seas…
Xerxes had sense enough to disengage after Salamis…
The communists though, recently reaffirmed their (protean and adaptable) Marxist Theory as the guiding light of China…and my own view is that considerable re-establishment of Soviet Communism, with appropriate changes…is probable….after the war in Europe is concluded in favor of the Heartland States.
In the Donbass, our Brother R. Bentley http://www.russelltexasbentley.com/ serves in a communist militia…”the essence of time”…that’s pure adaptability…and they do not attack the young, but cherish them.”L No” Communism is not dead.
it’s in crises, but not dead, not by a long shot.
Pax
LZ
Replace oppressed workers with oppressed minoritys and voila: NeoMarxism.
i love when you do this kind of super analysis. A very important thing that we must learn is to adopt things that worked and ditch the things that didnt. Being abosolutist about ideologies is what brings all this suffering. Education, understanding, dialogue, all those values are needed to make a better society, one that knows its limits and one that realizes its capabilities. Utopias are doomed to fail, but a consensus system based in mechanisms that worked and concepts beneficial for all, has a great future. Arrogance and hubris in both camps, made this ugly cold war to overextend and poison our societies, because there was always an elite that wanted to mantain their power until the bitter end. It is our reaponsability and for our children, to work hard to achieve a more human society.
This fantastic article really shows the allure of the communist/Marxist Utopia false heaven on earth idea. I’ve often wondered if we all have a distant cellular memory of Eden, with a mad longing to return to this state of grace. Both communism and its not so distant cousin and enemy fascism (and Judeo-Anglo capitalism) have this in common, they present to people in dire straights a vision of Eden achievable on earth, only first we’re going to have to “break a few eggs”. So once again we are seduced away from the real spiritual warfare, and the building of a decent society, into endless strife, revolution, counter-revolution etc…
Wow. Trying to rehabilitate an ideology that killed over 100 million people? An ideology that was an entire order of magnitude more deadly than *any* right-wing ideology? How do communists and socialists expect anyone to take their imprecations against European National Socialism during the interwar period seriously? These people crap their pants at any slightly inkling of “fascism” yet they embrace a social system that is intrinsically “anti-human” (1 Thess 2:15). Hypocrisy, thy name is “Progress”.
You can’t tell the difference between discussing and rehabilitating?
if so, then no wonder you understood nothing about what I wrote.
The Saker
Old Ez:
An ideology that was an entire order of magnitude more deadly than *any* right-wing ideology?
Let me first make clear what can be considered as a right-wing ideology. Right-wing ideologies have in common that they’re materialistic, that everything gets a price tag attached and that certain groups of humans are looked as less worth than others. Those “lesser” groups of humans can differ by physical appearance, physical abilities, intellectual abilities or simply material wealth.
Weren’t the native American inhabitants seen as inferior to the settlers from the old world? Add to the deaths of right-wing policies of WW II the deaths of the Indians. Add also the deaths of the “inferior” Africans who suffered at the hands of their “superior” colonial masters. Weren’t Asians referred to as gooks by US GIs? Add millions of “gooks” killed in Korea, Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam (imperialism is materialism = right-wing). Add millions of Middle Eastern “savages” (the words of Chris Kyle) and the sum will surpass the deaths caused by Communists. (The deaths because of Communism aren’t justifiable as well.)
Both capitalism and communism are very similar top-down, centralised “Statist” projects. The difference is in the the terminology: one requires “central economic planning” the other requires a “central bank”. Both have a ruling oligarchy, referred to either as a “nomenklatura” or a “financial rentier class”. Both require coercive action by a state-run police/military/ intelligence agencies.
I am surprised that Saker, a self-described left-libertarian, did not view capitalism and communism through the Hegelian perspective of “thesis” and “antithesis” in order to produce a “synthesis” i.e. third way that includes ideas such as: sound money, abolishing the Fed, gold standard, individual freedom, personal responsibility etc.
Saker says communism didn’t work simply because there wasn’t enough of it: “To say that Communism failed in the USSR is just about as logical as to say that a half-built building failed to provide a comfortable shelter.” I have heard this argument many times, but in different forms: The EU does not work because we need more Europe, US military interventionism does not work because we haven’t done it right, we need more interventionism, more troops for Afghanistan etc to make it work. What makes people think that if something does not work in small doses, it must necessarily work large doses? When theory and practice diverge, isn’t it time to time to ditch the theory?
In my opinion, the future ideological battle will not be between capitalism and communism both worn and discredited ideologies but rather: Statism versus individual freedom and sound money.
This exchange highlights my previous point about problems of reference.
You presume to be arguing with the Saker over the attributes of this or that abstract thing, , , whatever. These things have no clear localised reference in physical space, so unlike arguing over the attributes of something that does, like a particular cow, or a particular automobile, it’s highly likely you are talking about completely different things to begin with. Now add in the very likely fact that you don’t have an extremely comprehensive and precise functional definition of what talking about when you invoke the token , etc, for to develop such ideas fully formed would mean that you have no other job, you’d be a full-time intellectual, and that is unlikely these days,.. even full-time intellectuals nowadays are distracted by new media and other errata.
I’m not arguing that you are wrong and he is right, or vice versa. I think you all (reading these comments throughout) have variously rich ideas revealing myriad facets of the social & economic reality we live in. What I’m arguing against is the mutual exclusivity of these ideas characterised by statements like : “well obviously isn’t , it’s “, when the other party in the conversation was probably referring to something quite different. Some intellectuals I think used to call this “talking around each other”. It’s when people are heatedly arguing over two distinct things, each engaging a mostly imagined opposing argument.
The main problem of discourse in the social sciences as such is this problem of reference, of comprehensive shared definitions of the objects of contention. The pre-conditions of science is not as is commonly believed a habit of experimentation, this is secondary and comes later. The real pre-conditions for science is a universe of shared reference of definition. Every object is defined in terms of other objects on the same plane of reference, and of course for this science to be a public process shared among a community there must be documentation of these definitions. If there are more than one plane of reference then there must be functional transforms from one plane to another in a consistent way. Different schools in the social science achieve various degrees of sophistication in this regard, in their construction of comprehensive planes of reference describing the social and economic world in a totalising way, but there is no overall adoption of any given set of these systems, and none of them are complete. As a result, we get discourse chaos, and talk around each other.
I wrote a small thesis years ago to the effect that the renaissance of the social sciences would come through constructivist Sim-City style software projects that aimed to simulate, with greater and greater degrees of sophistication, everything from infrastructure to human psychology.
It would be a massive undertaking, one that would be truly collectivist in a practical way, and a lot of fun for a lot of undergrads. And it would stimulate the documentation project, the habit of forcing robust definitions of the objects of the propositions that people might like to come up with about their world.
Serbian girl wrote:
“Saker says communism didn’t work simply because there wasn’t enough of it: “To say that Communism failed in the USSR is just about as logical as to say that a half-built building failed to provide a comfortable shelter.” I have heard this argument many times, but in different forms: The EU does not work because we need more Europe, US military interventionism does not work because we haven’t done it right, we need more interventionism, more troops for Afghanistan etc to make it work. What makes people think that if something does not work in small doses, it must necessarily work large doses? When theory and practice diverge, isn’t it time to time to ditch the theory?”
The enormous difference is that nobody is waging war – hot, Cold, Financial, cultural – on the EU or on US military interventionism, the USSR faced Constant efforts at subversion. I would say that Cuba and Iran have suffered more, but I think it’s justified to say that Communism didn’t work because they have too few allies and such an overwhelming number of enemies.
Hi Ramin,
Good to see you on this thread!
I do not agree with your argument that Communism only had enemies in the West. Tito’s SFR Yugoslavia is a great example of a country that had LOTS of powerful friends in the West, but still didn’t manage to make Communism work.
Tito was Churchill’s friend and ally (some would say stooge). Just to put this into historical perspective so you understand how and why: There were TWO anti-axis movements in the Balkans during WWII. Churchill decided to support Tito’s movement over that of the other movement, which was mostly Orthodox Christian. (Btw, Tito was Catholic prior to becoming Communist) The allies provided extensive financial and political support for Tito’s partisans to lead the fight against the Nazis on the territory of ex-Yugoslavia. Tito’s movement grew, eventually absorbing the original Orthodox Christian movement. The leader of that movement was executed by Tito, his reputation was smeared, and his historical contribution to the fight against fascism was duly assigned to Tito’s successful partisans. Once in power, Tito created the SFRYugoslavia, set-up a system of governance in which the political power of the pro-Russian Serbs was greatly diluted, and then broke off relations with the Soviet Union.
For all his actions Tito earned a favourable status in the West: he received extensive post-war aid- in cash and in kind- for war reparations. He was was also able to secure favourable credit terms from the Western banks. Unfortunately, in spite all that money, ex-Yugoslavia defaulted several times on her debt and became a ward of the IMF. She also had an enormous trade imbalance, hyperinflation, and massive unemployment rates, which resulted in many of our compatriots joining the ranks of “Gastarbeiter” in Germany. Of course one could simply blame Tito’s incompetence for this economic disaster, and not Communism/Socialism.. But it says something about the robustness of a system if it can cause an entire country to unravel due to the actions of just one (or a handful) of individuals.
Regarding Cuba, yes they had a very powerful enemy. They were facing an economic embargo from a country that should have been their greatest trading partner, but wasn’t this embargo (somewhat) offset by all the subsidies and free oil & gas provided to them by their friend, the Soviet Union?
Regarding Iran, .. Of course, I am aware of the of the overt and subversive actions the US has taken against your country. You have my sincerest and heartfelt sympathies! I cannot comment on the economy of your country as I am not at all familiar with it. Saker wrote that you have a form of communism that is sustainable. Sounds intriguing … Perhaps you could write about it?
I object to the use of first person at several places in the article without an author attribution. Is it written by The Saker? That’s not clear.
I also object to the conclusion implied by the article: since the ideas espoused by Marx today called communism are not dead (a fact), then “real” communism is a viable, stable alternative for organizing society (IMO, it’s not). Regardless of my opinion, the conclusion is a non sequitur. The existence of an idea has no bearing on its validity.
The comment by B.F. nails it. And the author’s conclusion “For the foreseeable future Communism has a very bright and long future” is laughable.
Individuals aspire to freedom. Collectivism destroys that freedom. Reach your own conclusions.
Of course it is written by me, this is my blog after all, and the only articles which are expressly signed are by guest authors.
The Saker
Excelent piece of work. I love the truthness, written based on self experience, dialogue and humbleness, Saker. Jesus was political…yes of course…As he Walked on earth preaching against exploitation, hyprocrisy…That’s what true Christiany (míssil around here) and Islam are all about…In Latin America as we are colonized as oppressed since…Forever. For that reason among others…Chavez and Maduro for instance are so hated (legacy)// both man of true faith in God//by the powers 2 be…Bolivar is respected generally speaking in latinoamerica but all western puppets and brainwshd specially in Brazil (a vacum in the atlantic ocean so to speak…We don’t even speak spanish…*huge* psycological “dog complex” barriers….thanks to all we took for granted in the recent Pink era….brzlns does not even know who Bolivar WAS..Think of it. There is why people are accepting happily poverty back and tired cliches (and absurd LIES) endorsed by judiciary powers and doj / great service they did in here… this “anti Bolivar” …cuban doctors seen as a plan to turn into paramilitary (??!!) Of course is perfect OK the bullets and daily extreme violence day light all over the place…well, a lot of crap is repeated over and over…We had the best we could have w/ Lula, who yes, failed in aspects such as meddios law – he’s being attacked in a daily basis like for 14 years 24/7… lack of public tv such as telesur and rt…excellent high qualitative real news… But we are, as PEPE once said, slavery supporters, arrogants, hipocrytes, ignorant arrogant “elites” wannabes..generally speaking…what msm says…We are “TOTALLY for it!” They say…we “buy”…u know..We could have been key in BRICS…but oh no…what Washington would think?! First world! / brazilians DO think this way….u are so stupid to the point of selling our own Oil and buying from our competitors (??!!). The “other” latinoamerica is better, except for this identy politics disease. Venezuela is unique…special people…that’s why is being SO attacked. Warm Regards, love your blog!
Layla
Do you realize that you write in slogans?
The Saker
Yep. Short sentences provide for more effective communication with most blog readers’ attention spans.
No, sorry, my blog is not aimed at the kind of folks you describe. You are projecting here :-)
The concept is to provoke reflection by the reader instead of trying to convince him/her with reasoning via hundreds of words,
the size of a message is determined by its contents.
as very few minds are changed solely by words written by others.
speak for yourself
Communism is dead.
The best form of Communism was within the Northwest Native Americans of the US and Canada. The Potlatch economic and societal process was Communism. It harnessed the power of individual production and validated social status by “sharing” the riches of hunting and fishing by the best. It also was a means for balancing among tribes of the region on an annual basis of trade and potlatching.
It was a symbolic threat to the European Capitalism of Canada and the US and was banned in Canada, while in the US it was crushed and overwhelmed by the pressures of the conquering and encroaching alien culture of immigrants.
http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/631
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potlatch
The argument I have against Communism and Socialism is they are ideologies that by their nature require a massive bureaucracy and form a cult mentality in their support. They have always progressed to this state of being, Cult and Massive Bureaucracy. Never have they worked as economic systems that effectively raise people out of poverty. Mostly, they turn into tyrannies or blunder into massive, deadly mistakes, like famines.
This does not bless or sanctify capitalism as pure, without pain, sacred or benign. But Capitalism as a system of economics at least works to get people en masse out of poverty and to transform social infrastructure to benefit the people of the society.
Even Stalins USSR had investments and loans from capitalists to transform the society from pure agricultural to industrial. That was not a product of Communism or Socialism. It was a very direct action of Capitalism. Capital looks for and embeds itself where growth and profit is easiest and largest. Once that was USSR. In the late 70s-90s it was China.
Now it is Vietnam. Post Communist states make great targets for Capitalist investment.
Poverty abounds and the cadre running the nation are easily corrupted. Later, more profits can be gleaned during forced “reforms”. Look closely at Russia and China and now Vietnam and you will see the process.
So, my argument is narrow. Communism died with the Northwest Indian culture. It has flared up for a Century in various places and failed. It always built a godless Cult of inefficient bureaucrats. And then it inflicted a vacuum which was filled by the worst of Capitalists. (Liberals, bankers rush in and steal the nations’ assets.)
It is intriguing to watch Cuba and Venezuela where something new may happen with Russia and China trying hard to force both Cults to reform before the US Capitalists recapture their economies and control their nations.
But dead is dead. And Communism is dead. It hasn’t even worked for long in communes attempted in ideal locations on small scale. It is unnatural and will always fail. The human soul and mind is powerful, and that resemblance to God’s likeness will always mean Communism cannot work. It fights the nature of Free Will. It is a diversion from creativity, culture, art, invention and innovation. It produces a Cult.
It is a governmental tyranny, fascistic and eventually brutal. It is a very dangerous political system. Notice how Putin eschews it. While Xi embraces and encourages strict ideology. This is a very severe danger sign in Beijing. We’ve seen Maoism before. Xi is treading down that path.
His “Mass Line” ideology is self-deluding. He should complete his “work” and achieve the Eurasian Initiative which his creative spirit produced. By his works shall he be known. Creating a Cult of Personality is a road to perdition.
Self-publishing their own “identity” as a tight Cult, just yesterday, the Chinese took off the mask and showed us their DNA.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-10/11/c_136671449.htm
It does not take a genius to see that none of the success of China and all of the flaws of Maoism are about to trade places if this process continues and deepens.
Xi may want to “stay” after 2022. He may insist on picking his follow-on Standing Committee and new Chairman/President. These are all bad signs.
I hope he presses all his energy into the BRI. But the seductiveness of Communist Cult ideology has a long, tragic arc in history in many places since Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro.
The political power of Communist ideology has always destroyed the economy where the Cult resides.
What was the lesson Deng Xiaoping learned from USSR?
Communism as an economic system was dead.
It only functions as a political cover for a one-party system of governance. It could be called anything. ‘Communism’ sounds good to the masses who desire change and beneficence from their national government. It is pie in the sky. The false religion. The godless religion even some God-loving people fall for.
This article is, I am sorry to say so, very typically USAmerican – in other words: naive in its dealing with political economy.
Marx was no charming guy who scetched down at his remote writer’s desk an ideal utopia he chose to call “communism”, as he found another ruling “ideology” called capitalism prety ‘bad’, but he investigated the inner logic of capitalism as a dynamic system based on the accumulation of capital and showed in strict logical calculations that this capitalistic logic was doomed to eat up in the end its own economic base. Doing so, he saw capitalism, depending on Hegel’s dialectical view of history, as an indespensable and highly potent phase in a long-reaching process of universal unfolding of human potential.
On drafting socialism, let alone communism, he did hardly spent any time at all. His main work, comprising several thousand pages, is called “Das Kapital”, not ‘socialism’ or ‘communism’. Nor would it ever have crossed Marx’ mind to think of ‘communism’ defeating ‘capitalism’ in the course of a vibrant propaganda battle betweeen a ‘capitalistic’ and a ‘socialistic’ block.
In Marx’ understanding the defeat of capitalism was the natural and objective consequence of capitalism’s success: The more vigorous capitalism achieves to accelerate the accumulation of capital through rationalisation (minimizing production costs through minimising the costs of labour in production), the less it needs paid workforce, which leads to the socioeconomic devastation of increasing parts of the world, in which finally an increasing part of the population is no longer needed. Additionally forceful competion between a decreasing number of economic players leads to monopolies, that in the end can no longer find sales markets.
The additional problem that a logic of permanent exponential growth cannot work out in a world of limited resources was only suggested by Marx, but thoroughly dealt with by Rosa Luxemberg in the “Accumulation of Capital” (Berlin, 1913). She took up Marx’ calculation and traced a mistake he had made. Trying to check what was wrong with it, she came to the conclusion that the accumulation of capital had always relied on capitalism’s tendency to expand into non-capitalistic parts of the world, that still had to offer huge resources not yet implied in previous capitalistic calculus. Luxemberg concluded that the moment such imperialistic expansion into new territories was no longer possible, capitalism would be forced to ‘naturalize” the last resources within its alreaady industrialised ‘heart economies’, whose population had so far been privileged to colonial populations, but who would, in the end, would be exposed to an exploitation as ruthless as that of formerly colonised parts of the world. Additionally people would experience globally that there no was no longer any economic need for their workforce, while there was still no other defined mode of aquiring one’s living than selling one’s labour for the accumulation process.
Everybody may judge wether he assumes that those calculations were so far-fetched, given what the world looks like and keeping in mind that those who forshadowed its current state lived (in case of Marx and Engels) 150 years ago.
While especially Ludwig Feuerbach, whose work Marx reflected too, was the one who regarded Christianity (or religion as a whole) as a hegemonial strategy to prevent people from fighting for their objective goals, it is not these thinkers who finished Christianity off (or pressed into the state it is in today), but the Protestant-Calvinistic turn, which ended up into discrediting Christianity by turning it into its opposite. This becomes most obvious in the absurdities of the hysterical US-cosmos of Pentacostal and Evangelical delusion. But with the fall of the Anglosphere Christianity will have the chance again to be seen as the community-based faith it originally was, instead of the ideological fuel of unbound egoistically craving for profit and economic triumph.
Capitalism will and can only be defeated by coming to its own natural end. Paradoxically the only chance to prevent that defeat would be to finish capitalistic production – which would be the end of capitalism too. Despite of that there is no automatic historical turn to socialism: Humankind may go this path – and have no other chance to prevent doom. But will we do so? We might as well choose doom and either step into a phase of endless bloody civil wars or into another phase of open fascism (which would be an attempt of elites to keep the corpse of capitalism alive – which will turn out to be futile.)
Only that capitalism will come to an end does not depend on political convictions people take up. The logic it depends on simply does not allow the restriction of economic expansion it requires. Thus it will collapse – and with it the Anglosphere’s fatal hegemony.
—- unless the united US elites, consisting of two factions of maniacs, neocons and altrightists alike, will achieve to blow up the planet. If we do not prevent them from doing so, our prospects will indeed be gloomy.
@ Anja
Thank you for the lesson, Indeed most people with an acquaintance with Marxism fall into the belief that Marx proposed in dogmatic fashion a way towards “utopian Communism”. What he did, and the capitalist class will never forgive him for, was to make a methodical study of capitalism itself and how its doom was inherent to its essence, that is, capitalism itself carries the seeds of its own destruction.
The problem we are faced with today is whether we, the working people, the slave wage earners, wish to go down the extinction road with capitalism in charge. Marx could not have predicted the technological advances (e.g. nuclear weapons) which will make a moot point whether capitalism will self-destruct or not because the inevitable result of competition for dwindling resources will necessarily lead to conflict and ultimately doom.
This is one of the finest, most balanced and factually anchored articles I have ever read.
And especially so considering the “minefield” of a topic.
Sometimes, Saker you produce a tour de force and this is definitely one, factually laden and totally above the potential of any criticism that the piece is biased one way or the other in looking at the phenomenon of “communism” .
Certainly communism is alive, and moreover has never been stronger. Capitalism is clos to death. I hate both, because both are based on a lie.
The capitalism lie says that not doing any dedicated effort the humanity can reach a state of permanent happiness just by the grace of the market law which is the ultimate evolution law.
This is an horrific lie just written to hide the fact that the hidden powers prefer the law of the strongest.
The communism lie says that making great efforts the humanity is able by itself to reach such a state of happiness, and that is the Prometheus delusion. It is also a lie because it says the strength of humanity is higher than it is. But it is quite a “better” lie than the capitalist one. And that is the reason why most of the people currently believe in it and are deceived by it.
However, that is that effort culture, behind communism, which gives to communism its very high strength despite apparent weakness. But it is its delusion which leads to the terrific tragedies described as “horrors of communism”. Humanity does not need any communism to generate such horrors, read the Titus Jerusalem conquest by Flavius Joseph and you will see that nothing to be proud of.
When communism will defeat capitalism, and it is tomorrow, then communism will become very weak, and the whole world will look like Syria, Yemen Ukraine or Afghanistan for what I can foresee.
I myself want especially to thank Saker for his fine exposition or essay. He has offered us considerable material to drink together.
Further, reading the things here above I form the idea that we each have our own a-priori notion of what precisely communism is. This lack of common understanding naturally sets the arena into conflict.
I will proffer an example of a communist past…in the US the frontier Quaker settlements were communist until the railroads ruined things after the civil war. The war ruined things too, and gave the sutler class the power to make of the US federation an empire… (“Sutler” is a word we never hear…why is that?)
Those communist villages, literally dirt poor, produced a high quality of people in what was essentially an experiment. They valued communal effort, literacy, honest labor, Justice, and recognized that in order to establish this it was necessary to share wealth.
Thus when I speak of communism…it’s partially pre-Marx… And it’s different for each of us.
Sell everything and give it to the poor…protocommunist? Well, you know about those Jewish carpenters! Speaking of which let us consider the Hebrew “Shalom bayit”
This is nowadays understood to apply as a desirable condition within a matrimonial home. However it may also be understood to describe a condition wherein every person of a group has what they need, and is therefore unwilling to fight or contend. Shalom bayit = literally Peace in the Home… So “Home” can be a big place. Russia is “home” for many…and if they each had what they need…would that be communism? In the Quaker sense I say “yes”. Others may differ.
In the old example of the Quaker settlement, need I add, there was a secondary after-effect. Like-minded pacific people married each other and nurtured children together in big families… If you did that with dogs you’d be breeding pups…well the Quakers bred “Quaker Pups”—essentially they bred communists – before Marx, I am a product of that unintentional (?) “experiment”.
Now then, a Marxist analysis is always useful, and cooperation is obviously superior to force, so it seems evident that if mankind survives he must do so in a communist way. Details are a mystery—thus Marx and the useful method of inquiry…dovetails with some nominally Christian methods or groups…and seems to imply a less industrial way of living in less concentrated groups is probably in our future.
I would like to see what Saker might say…
Thanks Again!
Pax
LZ
1789: Dream and Reality
Tage Lindbom
Revolutions Are Not Made, they emerge, according to Lenin’s dictum, meaning that the social phenomenon called a revolution has a pre-history. Uprisings and rebellions may result from concrete social evils such as the abuse of power, but since they are not aimed at a total and fundamental transformation, they do not involve a change in value systems. A revolution, on the other hand, is the annihilation of one system of order and values and the proclamation of an entirely new relationship between men. Such a thorough change demands an “incubation period,” a pre-history. The new order which the French Revolution of 1789 above all else proclaims is the Sovereignty of Man. The human being becomes the enthroned ruler of this world, at once as individual and collective, the universal master, expressing his power as Will, the sovereign Will of the People.
Read the rest here: http://www.mmisi.org/ma/34_04/lindbom.pdf
The Will to Power, der Wille zur Macht, which sunk Nietzsche into the abyss of madness.
Erik Hoffer offers an insight too…that it is Change that creates Revolution.
Naturally and obviously Revolution also begets Change, but the primary engine is Change. This is the Force which make it not possible or desirable to continue as before, but obliges mankind or a natio or State to find new methods of achieving what they desire.
Need one add that Change is at a far greater Rate than ever before in world history. Ah, therefore…
Right. We live in a global revolution.
Bummer.
LZ
The examples of revolutions you mention and several others were not at all the consequences of what you write.
They were instead special operations set in motion by the British(+Venice etc) and later angloamerican oligarchy. There was never any genuine popular rise of sufficient magnitude.
Regarding the ‘French’ revolution, the British even made a testrun in London by instigating a pogrom before letting loose their payed agents in France.
Further the deception goes much further, for even enlightenment on its own, was a plot from the same oligarchic context not intended to bring progress, but to prevent it by sawing seeds of pessimism. Development of the human condition was to be preempted for the sakes of oligarchic dominance.
How many people must suffer again from Communism so people can know this satanic ideology Never works? some years ago I read an article in this website saying Communism is a foreign ideology that destroyed Russia, the West didnt destroy Russia this time os because Russia is Capitalist and dont need a big state to survive, Russians dont make the same mistake again believing in Marx.
This is honestly the most frustrating thing about listening to Communists. “Let’s just try it one more time, we’ll get it right this time, millions won’t starve.” And if they do, you just get to call it “not real communism” and keep whining about how evil capitalism is (funny how what we have now is always the “real capitalism”, by the way).
smh
Communism is a governing construct that was developed, paid for, and implemented by
cabalist bankers to displace the then mostly white, non-Jewish ruling aristocracies of the world.
More fundamentally than this ideological issue is the simple fact that capitalism and communism in its modern form assume and favor industrialism. However, we live on a finite planet. Resources are not endless, and this is what industrialism requires–an endless supply of essential resources, and then, to exploit them, enormous and devouring corporate or governmental entities requiring enormous investments to realize the necessary economies of scale. In short, industrialism, machine civilization, entails a slow suicide–in whatever social form. It also entails the destruction of normal human life.
Human beings in an industrial civilization eventually become the creatures of their machines, and hence human destruction. Sadly, there is no way out. A great change, assuming its possibility would entail the death of billions who can only survive in an industrial world. Mankind is now heading inevitably towards the abyss, and this is exactly what the infernal powers want: the destruction and despair of mankind. Only a Divine intervention can overcome this.
Dear friends
As someone who has spent half a life time studying the scriptures and is currently doing a post graduate course in applied theology please allow me a couple of comments. The city wall around Jerusalem at the time of Christ had a small gate. A camel, unloaded and naked, could just squeeze through. It was called the ‘eye of the needle’ and meant that folks arriving late could enter the city when the main gates were shut. However, in order to pass through they would have to divest themselves of all their goods. The issue Jesus addressed (e.g. with the rich young ruler) wasn’t money per se but attachment. The Bible endorses private property and trade but Jesus required that a person must be willing to give up all material things, if called upon to do so ‘for the Kingdom’. In other words, attachment to these things above attachment to God is idolatry. My pastor once gave away his (new) car, and I know a Christian businessman once who gave away his entire wealth and started again from nothing. Making provision for the poor, the widow and the orphan are consistent themes throughout the whole of scripture but equal distribution of wealth through the violent imposition of the State is an atheist idea not a Biblical one. On the ongoing success of Communism in the West I recommend the documentary ‘Agenda: Grinding America Down’. Yes it does contain some Tea Party propaganda but the basic research on cultural Marxism is a very good starting point.
Capitalism tells me that my only possible life is as a slave. And that I need to be constantly ripped off by bankers and unscrupolous businessment who’ve bought the government. Capitalism tells me that I need to pay massive taxes to fund a war machine, and that I need to send my children off to die in that machine, and then be the proud parent of a dead patriot.
To me, its as easy as ABC …… Anything But Capitalism
Dear Saker,
As a life-long communist who takes Historical Materialism very seriously I want to pay you a very heartfelt but backhand compliment.
Anti-communists, for the most part, brim with ignorance so deep as to defy any attempt at sensible argument. It often appears they pose the same problem as teaching a five year old physics it is entirely a one-way venture.
This is complimented by those who espouse, sometimes with apparent sophistication Historical Materialism, but whose understanding is purely instrumental and whose ambitions are managerial (a common problem especially in academia of all persuasions). They are the canards that foster the stupidity of the above.
In your case I am seeing something neither naive or dishonest, an opponent worthy of serious attention and productive strand in what I might otherwise have dismissed. So I thank you. Serious debate benefits everyone and moreover leads to unexpected confluences. Truth, however, approach and no matter how uncomfortable disciplines intellect and sets common tasks without having to surrender viewpoint (the latter does not mean unchanged).
For humanity’s sake we need to use our brains well, and whatever else may be agreed upon the differences in understanding have to also be addressed —- not to produce winners and losers, but to find the real common ground freed from the superfluous.
I was brought up as a Methodist, with an inbuilt abhorrence to pomp and ceremony; Catholicism rubs me up the wrong way, never mind Orthodoxy, but on these things I long ago learnt tolerance and from that some appreciation for the beliefs — I cannot partake but nothing now repels me.
I also take Marx on religion very seriously — there is no Dawkinish atheism in it, whether it can even be called atheism is dubious. “Man makes God” (Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Law), is an affirmation of Godhead’s existence, it is real even metaphysical, but not supernatural (an expression of our Species Being). Marxism has a undeveloped Theology as well. There is in this no need to refute supernaturalism, but scriptural understandings change radically:
For instance Genesis 1:1-3:24 “seven days of creation” has nothing to do with creation as such, but rather it is a very deep spiritual connection between an individual and the world and when that is seen it is truely: “Now God saw all that he had made, and indeed, it was very good!” I rile at the entirely false and concocted “debate” between Fundamentalists (religious and atheistic) who seem to only prove that reading without comprehension is their common talent.
I will go one step further, the Communist Party as a political organization is dead that will not rise again, because the managers it harboured killed it and not just in the USSR. And NEP was not an invention but the same policy Lenin shouted to the crowd in 1917 (April Thesis), reiterated in 1918 (The Impending Catastrophe and How to Combat It) and then 1923. It is socialism as an answer to Imperialism and corporatism and inherent in Marx’s “Critique of the Gotha Program” and indeed everything else he said on the topic.
Communism is not dead, but will be transformed, it will not be the 1930s again, it will not form a party in the organizational sense, but a party within civil society, and the key to this lies in books, lessons, lectures, writing digitized leading to scholarly understanding made available to millions. The second chapter opens in 21st century and recenters attention to the intellectual achievements of 19th century.
Sorry for the rant.
You take Marxist religion (aka ‘Dialectical and Historical Materialism’) seriously.
Isn’t the ‘transformed Communism’ of the future you dream of, Anarchism? Anyhow, both are form of Nihilism, the inverse faith, the fight against Truth, Authority and God. The narcissistic religion of Man adoring himself as God.
Marxist religion, you mean a belief in scriptures, how can a historical method whose epistemology comes from the Enlightenment through Spinoza, Kant and Hegel be construed as a religion?
WizOz coming out with denunciations, especially silly ones makes sensible discussion impossible.
Transformed was meant in terms of political organization, Communism as future society is not anarchism, anarchism does not have any historical method, a coherent epistemology, or analytical insights it is by self-description utopian.
Nihilism, is exactly what I am denying, obviously I have not made that clear.
“Man adoring himself with God”, is not the same thing or even remotely similar to “man made God” it means that God is projection of our species being as real as we are, it not man as is, but man as he can be, th best of us abstracted out from all the rest.
Truth is not established by the authority of God, it is not given to one set of people but not the next. Truth is God, at least in the theology I was taught, to know one is to know the other.
That God needs to have his authority recognized aside from being Truth, means he is less than truth; that God was somehow incomplete. Is that really your “faith”?
You may have a different theological school, or learnt from ill-informed priests, it seems an odd, and recent concoction to me to frame faith in such a way, lack of “faith” in the supernatural = Nilihism and a fight against truth and God’s authority = narcissism. In fact, it sounds spiritually false.
Perhaps you could supply some reference for this odd mix which seems, to me, to lack theological logic.
@“Man adoring himself with God”
The sentence was “Man adoring himself AS God”. And also it was not “Nilihism and a fight against truth and God’s authority = narcissism”, but “the fight against Truth, Authority and God”.
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My apologies for the typo “Man adoring himself AS God”.
I did not, and still do not, understand “the fight against Truth, Authority and God”.
Try this.
Be working with local American socialists as a part of a coalition that is fighting corporate globalization. Be sitting in a bar having a meeting that is morphing into a social gathering. The bar is a local political gathering place, with pictures of FDR on the wall and of the founder of the bar shaking hands with JFK. So, someone turns on a cable news talking heads show.
The talking heads are accusing the corrupt banker’s friend Bill Clinton of being a socialist.
The table where I was drinking beer with real socialists erupts in laughter.
:)
The real socialists certainly know that bankers don’t donate tens or hundreds of billions of dollars to elect a socialist into power. If you want to spot a real socialist, just look at who the bankers hate and strongly oppose.
Great exposition of your thinking Saker. I agree with you whole-heartily that whether or not one buys into Communism, it must be approached objectively and agreed with or disavowed for what it actually is rather than the Straw Man or caricature that is presented, when it is presented at all, in the West.
As a long time reader of the World Socialist Website, I have always been sympathetic, though not totally eye to eye, with their analysis of the Russian Revolution and what came after. From my perspective, I go beyond your position that “Communism as such was never achieved in the USSR, only Socialism.” For even beyond not establishing a full blown Communist society, Communism, and here is one area where I am with the WSWS, cannot be established in one country AND must be characterized by worker control of the means of production. Something that Stalin, as the personification of the Bureaucracy, made sure did not happen. In addition, because Gaia (look up James Lovelock for the Gaia theory) is an integrated whole and needs to be approached as such by a species that has appropriated so much of her, the nation state, which in my view by definition means exclusivity and tends to veer toward a geo-political/economic zero sum game can never be part of any conversion to a sane, livable world.
I have long thought of what could have been if Lenin had not died when he did or if Trotsky had been able to out-maneuver Bureaucracy led by Stalin. Honestly, and this is where I do not quite see eye to eye with the WSWS, it seems to me that the coming to the fore of the Bureaucracy was laid from the moment the Bolsheviks came to power. So Stalin or someone like him may very well have arisen whether Lenin had lived longer and/or Trotsky emerged victorious over Stalin. History is what it is so we will never know but still valuable as a thought experiment.
I have never read anything showing that Trotsky or Lenin severely persecuted believers so I cannot speak on that with any confidence one way or another. However, I can say that though an Atheist myself, I would be staunchly against any persecution of believers in any revolutionary situation. For one thing, as an African-American person of Hispanic descent, I am fully aware of the progressive role of religion in US history as personified by figures such as MLK and Malcolm X. For another, I understand Religion or spiritual beliefs need not take some of the poisonous forms we see today. Native American spiritual beliefs called for harmony with nature and were well suited to the way of life of these peoples. Put another way, I see religious or spiritual beliefs beliefs as one of many ways a community can organize itself and maintain social cohesion and an ecologically sustainable relationship with nature.
For me, rather than seeing Communism as Utopian, I see at it as one of many possible outcomes. Capitalism with its wars, ecological destructiveness and impoverishment of mankind is truly Utopian in thinking it can last indefinitely; its days are clearly numbered one way or another. My vision, instead, is for a world free of nation states and some form of world governance and NOT a one world government as the “Anglo-Zionist Empire,” as you put it, is crudely and rather haplessly trying to impose. As MLK put on display in the very best of the Black Prophetic Tradition:
“I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made straight and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together.”
Not sure about laying the mountains low but the sentiment (we are all in this together;let’s build!) represents a kind of communism I’d fight for.
Actually, if communism, or more accurately, collectivism, since communism is but one example of this form of society, which has existed since before Homo Sapiens Sapiens evolved, in fact before primates, before mammals, even before vertebrates evolved, dies, then it will be the swansong of human existence in any worthwhile manifestation. One has only to look at the societies where collectivism is most notably absent to see the sort of grim future that would await any but the most lacking in basic human decency.
Having read through the comments, some old shadows still stain the landscape, some comments would take a book to refute not because they are sophisticated but because of the ignorance expressed. Go and read more widely is the best response, but one thing at least needs to be clarified marx’s continuities with Hegel.
Human awareness individually has limits, however human collective consciousness does not. The limits of individual aptitude, history and ability effect all, but each of these limits can be manipulated and overcome by one means or another.
Marx’s anti-property, anti-class, egalitarianism summed up as ultimate (not immediate) communism, is not a system of anykind, it is a condition of history a point within humanities self-development. In fact he says that then human history begins, and all that led to it was prehistory, reality half-understood and hence history that is blindly made.
Magnitude of what this means, makes all the ideas of simple definitions fall aside Communism is not achieved by abolishing private property, especially now as he predicted in his notebooks capital will appropriate capital and in effect private property as an important element in production has been abolished by corporate capitalism. What is actually left is truly pitiful and need never be ‘confiscated by the state’ — that can be taken off the agenda as an organic achievement of history. Libertarians need to grow up and live with reality as do many who call themselves communists.
Next the period we are now in, under Marx’s definition of the “socialization of the means of production” is socialism, albeit financial socialism. It is stage of history; the final stage of capitalism as imperialism (actual ulltraimperialism) takes all. Get use to that as well, things may change, markets do need to be reintroduced, small industrialize need to be fostered, states need to be reduced into popular governance, but this apparent “revival” of capitalism is no such thing, the last basis for that being the dominant form of production disappeared between 1973 and now, if not went into terminal decay way back in 1880 (before America fully industrialized in 1920-1950).
Marx’s communism is a point when humanity has the ability to consciously be for-itself, it has material presumptions, but make no mistake it is self-consciousness of our species being. which when reduced to an individual is sheer nonsense, but when placed within levels of communication and freedom to apply resources to solve actual problems, where work and leisure are not opposites then that state of achievement has slothed off all those things which we think are essential, unavoidable and natural, but are in reality products of social history.
Communism is not a system, it is not an economy of any sort, it is not something any living person on the planet can reasonable expect to see in their lifetimes or that of their children. But it is achieved, in part, by making what we have now better. It is really that simple, utopias get in the way, when simple material improvement is needed.
A communist, wants to break up the corporate entities, to express unity as meaningful nationalism (ordinary people taking control of the state, breaking states up into democratic governances, but large enough to run their own show), allow actual money (value) to go into the hands of those that are doing things so that they can keep doing things and them better. sensible copyright and patent royalties that reward authors and inventors, but are no monopolies holding us back.
The elimination of managers from our lives and from government, and workplaces — the anti-productive overseers have had their day and dumped all over us in the process. Actual law, not fake justice, actual welfare and health care, shorter working days, actual family life etc.,.
Communists hold to no utopias; Marx never once described how things should work, he left that up to us on the practical ends of things — he did pinpoint what was not working and where that would lead if we did not change course and unfortunately that came true, but now there is no string left to play out, there is no revival of the past possible, there is no social life, and in much of the world there is war and death, starvation and hopelessness.
The Hegelian beauty in this, the great irony, that some commentators have touched on here, is that Marx did not invent anything new, he made things clearer that is it. Hegel’s theology had a core in the self-development of our human species as the point of our existence — our becoming human in all the potential that entails. That is why Quakers foreshadowed Marx and Marx ever pointed out within the past of humanity that this same aim emerged time and time again because it is within our social being and expresses itself most clearly when conditions are antagonistic to its fulfillment.
Marx’s point about capitalism was that its end was seeded in its beginnings, its ruthless self-revolutions, its constant reinvented self and grasping nature had a limited lifespan, that capital accumulates and in then absorbs itself and in this shares itself out (at least to the 1% and their overseers), but all the same it would make possible the emergence of world wide class, people whose labour and minds were their only tools and this ultimately would be to our collective advantage.
When view China it did not adopt capitalism, it created space through national liberation, it accumulated capital primitively, the one-child policy destroyed the old clans and individuated people so they could become workers, state capitalism marshaled resources and then it opened its gates and US capital rushed in to make a killing, destroyed its own working class, manufacturing and the rest. The thing to always remember about China is that its nationalism is meant to serve the people and in this odd ironical fashion it has —- that is more than can be said for American nationalism which has been nothing but a cover for imperialism.
Is China strengthened because of capitalism or the way it uses capital for a national purpose? Could this have been historically achieved without the primitive socialism brought about by the CCP? Mistakes and horrors aside — no it could not; China before Mao was being raped by foreigners the KMT was owned by them, that a tiny island populated by exiles prospered is nothing compared to how China has developed.
The middle kingdom is emerging, it threatens no one but which ideological notion fits? Is it communist or capitalist; or something in between? If the rest of world would just aim fro something in between perhaps then we all could see some improvement as China, and I think with some justice Russia is sharing.
Jesus Christ is an archetype of communism. Just as Jesus Christ contains the archetypes of many gods, Dionysus and Krishna for example.
This is a nice piece of writing.
If I understand correctly, polls continue to show that communism didn’t collapse at all; it was destroyed by assault from outside and betrayal from inside. The evildoings of communism at its worst were Satanic, without a doubt, genocidal, even, but the successes of communism were substantial too. The industrialization of the Soviet Union was incredible. The Soviet defeat of the Nazis saved the world. Soviet and Warsaw Pact states achieved – as I understand it – a level of basic economic support for all that the West sneers at today precisely because it was good, not because it was bad.
Meanwhile, few in the west want to recognize the West’s viciously Satanic nature. Where communism at least tried to establish basic well being for all, and succeeded to a significant extent, Capitalism is dedicated to establishing poverty for most and fabulous wealth for a few. Communism tries to stop extreme poverty. Capitalism worships poverty as that without which there can be no true wealth. Indeed, I think the ultimate goal of Capitalism is transhumanism, the achievement of a breakaway civilization of cyborgs who, no longer needing humans, will abandon/exterminate most. This, I think, is the ultimate logic driving Capitalism. Thus Capitalism, like Communism, is turned vicious by its UTOPIANISM.
But at the same time, let’s not be so quick to decry utopianism. It is in our human nature to try to escape/transcend human nature. This paradox is inescapable for us. What all wisdoms teach us, I submit, is BALANCE. We must not suppress our utopian urges. But we must balance them with more grounded ways of thinking. As part of this process of balancing I think we need to study every political philosophy and basically mix them. They have a natural tendency to balance and ground each other.
Christianity may not have a lot to contribute to political/economic/cultural philosophy, but it might be able to help nurture the men and women of good will who will be needed to develop and implement future more balanced approaches. As we have seen in places like Venezuela, there are many who choose to subvert a country’s progress rather than put shoulders to the wheel, because of maniacal addiction to capitalist propaganda. In the past there have been communists who did this too, of course. Men and women of good will are indispensable.
A balance of political philosophies plus people of good will to implement them – this could be the formula for a better human future
re: Religion is the opiate of the masses. I grew up hearing this said by intellectuals around me with a sneer in their voices so the meaning was very clear i.e. only stupid people go to church. Then in the 1960’s these same folks decided TV was the opiate of the masses which made much more sense to me as my friends waited for nightly programs and identified with the lives of the characters on the screen as if they knew them intimately arranging their lives so as not to miss an episode. Then as an adult I encountered tough minded, self educated workers who had this attitude about religion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=aIQpuKHHI-E
The problem with many people who speak about communism/communists is that they never really met any or have seen it in action. My first husband would throughout the 70, 80s and 90’s travel to Cuba. He would often say, ” oh, there are problems with the Revolution–some are inward and others are due to outside factors but Cuba is one of the best countries in the world in which to be poor due to free education, medical care and rationing so that no one starves–people seem happy.
Life is not fair, but it can be a little more just all around and mercy towards one another, not greed or “survival of the most fit,” can be cultivated as a society’s norm. It is said that as social animals humans are made happier by social cooperation alone.
And as for human nature…oh I grew up with round the table discussions of Margaret Mead ( I’m sure someone will blast her for being a pawn of dark forces) and one of my brothers became a Professor of Anthropology/Sociology who gained extra employment teaching cultural sensitivity at a nearby police academy. Later I met Buddhists who say there is no inherent, that is unchangeable, permanent self except one we fashion and believe in and therein lies our misery.
Here is an offering from a poet Friend of mine called Hafiz, dead yet alive these many years:
Stay Close to Those Sounds
The sun turns a key in a lock each day
as soon as it crawls out of bed
Light swings open a door
And the many kinds of love rush out
onto the infinite green field.
Your soul sometimes plays a note
Against the Sky’s ear that excites
the birds and planets.
Stay close to any sounds
That make you glad you are alive
Everything in this world is
helplessly reeling
An invisible wake was created
When G-d said to His beautiful dead lover,
“Be”
Hafiz, who will understand you
If you do not explain that last line?
well then,
I will sing it this way,
When G-d said to Illusion,
“Be”
Hafez is me, as Iranians often say.
Hafez, the greatest poet of all-time! No one else is even close.
That poem sort of sounds like some of the new-age influenced semi-translations of Hafez in English rather than real Hafez, but I like these new poems just the same.
Dear Mr. Mazaheri,
Oh you are so correct–the translator is Daniel Ladinsky but I think he captures the sheer cheekiness of the Sufi way of viewing reality—not that I know much about that.
As they say–Hafiz rocks! But I’d like any translations of Hafeez–even the more doctrinaire ones.
If art is not redemptive in some way ( and I do not speak of ‘socialist realism’ etc.) it is swill in my unhumble opinion.
But then Hafiz speaks:
Why Not Be Polite
Everyone is G-d speaking.
Why not be polite and listen to Him?
Centralisation of economic decisions, characteristic of top-down Socialism and Capitalism, is a highly flawed way to do business. General Motors had no more insight about its sprawling enterprise than Soviet Planners and both failed miserably.
EF Schumacher — taking his cue from GK Chesterton and H Belloc — indicated a much better way with the very name of his pivotal book “SMALL IS BEAUTIFUL.” Schumacher’s place is now held by US economist John Medaille.
Very successful examples of such “smallness” are provided by the Mondragon Cooperative of Basque Spain, the cooperation of multiple families in Emilia, Italy producing gold-standard foodstuffs and Gore in the US. Family income in these ventures is much higher than the norm.
Words are woefully over rated.
Who can prove that the following pairs of words don’t point to the same reality?
1) Capitalism and communism
2) Jesus and Mary
3) Apollo and Athena
4) Buddha and Bodhisattva
5) Yin and Yang
Western cultures have long preferred to anthropomorphize the Divine … Eastern cultures not so much.
Not ‘seeing’ it is a form of blindness … an indication of a consciousness not fully awakened.
No healthy normal person chooses blindness … the appropriate time … the time for the scales to fall off our eyes … has simply not come … yet!
Historically, the current forms of Capitalism and Communism are both extreme forms Western Godlessness and materialism.
They are unbalanced, corrupt and extreme due to the denial of God’s laws in the areas of trade, commerce and money; in the areas of protecting the weak from exploitation and harm; in the areas of protecting the divine laws of the family way of life, in the areas of warfare, treaties, weapons and technology…..and in many other areas.
The ideas that came from the Western thinkers which infected many parts of the world, came to being due to the vacuum caused by Godlessness and Materialism. It came from the Western technological and economic superiority and from the total detachment of God’s divine laws.
The West believed and still believe that they are so advanced that they do not need God or God’s laws.
And this extreme ideological Western corruption has basically culminated to the point where the people of world are on their toes and wondering when the world powers will finally unleash their nuclear weapons on each-other.
No one wishes for a global nuclear war to take place, unless they are extremely corrupt people or in a state of madness/anger/hatefulness….
…..However, there can be no denial, that if there were any people on Earth that deserve to destroy one another due to their extreme corruption……they are the people who brought the planet to this state of economic, social and political chaos and decay, with no exceptions of any world power at this moment in time.
Who can prove that the following pairs of words don’t point to the same reality?
You are asking if somebody can prove a negative…
boy reading that kind of nonsense in the morning is depressing…
The Saker
LOL!
The failure to call things by their rifle names is the first step to social disorder.
– Confucius
But I guess we need hippies too….
Seems Confucius was right … no two people have identical understanding of the intentions underlying the words “capitalism” and “communism” … including the people who coined the words … ergo no meaningful communication … with the consequence being social disorder.
I found the the betrayal of the soviet state astounding. I did not have the details but I was convinced the Russian could only fall were it betrayed from the inside and that Gorbachev had to be a traitor. Nothing has proved me wrong so far.
I was stunned by Russia taking the word of the Americans that would not push to Russia’s borders, expanding to the former Russian sphere. what else could they do or would they do but take over the former Warsaw countries. is capitalism we are dealing with. after all the history we know, analysis of capitalism why would the head of the Russian sate not make a treaty, a legal document rather than take the word of the Americans?
that was, is the most illogical and impossible claim in all that history. it was outright betrayal and collusion by the Russian traitors.
I used to be sick by the fact that Black people and their countries always produced traitor who would betray their movements. to see it among the Russian in such a vast way so upset me I have not recovered. my ‘Russian cynicism’ so to speak is now so complete, I cannot bring myself to trust Mr Putin, regardless. Mr Putin exists as a day to day proposition with me, to the day he remains faithful.
I noted some economic stats recently posted that claims Russia as capitalist is nor producing as much social inequality as America has been all along. Mr Putin is a capitalist, often in open disgust of the previous Soviet state. yet it seems Russia has achieved what surely are great economic achievements under Mr Putin, from the Yeltsin shambles he inherited. Russia has not sunk under fallen oil prices, is not the top wheat produce and exporter in the world, has strode past the west in advanced military technology etc
these are massive achievements in quick time reminding of the salient achievements of the Soviet union that achieved the bomb in just 36 years…1917-1953 by he end of Stalin..from the reported 95% illiteracy of the 1917 Russian population. that is one stunning achievement. it reminds me of the literacy achievement of Black Americans post slavery 1965, which achieved full literacy by 1910 in the teeth of american racism, Jim Crow and general movement by white america to prevent such a development.
that was collective movement, socialist movement if you will, like the Russian people in communism, and the Chinese people too whose achievement is just as stunning as that of the Soviet Russians. such achievements proved the power of collective social movement, establishes the credibility of communism.
Capitalism has achieved nothing comparable, can cite only black slavery, the exploitation of masses of workers, and a vast plundering global imperialism that has laid waste to most of the world over several centuries for its ‘achievements’
yet capitalism dominates so much of the planet, has turned billions into human mush, has poisoned the world in so many ways I don’t see any possibility of environmental and biological recovery. now facing AI and driven by capitalist imperative to introduce such mechanical advance at the expense of the people, how are we to survive in the west..how are we to survive at all as AI begins to drive military technology?
wont that lock the opposing entities in human society into a vicious military cycles that waste human resources and focus, that take us all down.. at the same time that pollution, pharmaceuticals and GMO are doing their insidious work, undermining human health and biology?
humanity is indeed already set up for the anti-christ: extinction seems assured, too far down that road already to get off I think. can there be a revolutionary communist resurgence in time to save humanity?
I hope so but I doubt it! even at this stage traitors of the vastness of Gorbachev and Yeltsin abound, everywhere. human society is insane and psychopaths are all over the place, in little spaces as well as big and powerful ones. there is always hope but it aint flickering brightly for humanity
If you look at the London debt to the US, it flattens out at this time, a huge amount of dollars goes elsewhere.
The SU was virtually blockaded from trade, it had a trading deficit, but not a significant one. Then Russia ended up with a huge foreign (US debt). The buying spree after Yeltsin was run on US dollars, old military and criminal types were awash with money.
On this issue there is some silence, a chorus of voices without proof or cogent argument claims the SU was bankrupt and owed huge debts — I just can’t see how.
I am not defending the SU, but I am puzzled, and the explanation seems to be that bribes to traitors became national debt. I also from the outside was watching avidly the move back to Lenin’s old policy of NEP (also known as the sunshine period), which if implemented might have given Russia an entirely different future without the deficit that has now been overcome.
Better informed historians need to sort this out, but clearly more than a few things were responsible.
I hate any form of authoritarism and I love individuality, this is why I vomit on communism, i don’t need an elite managing my resources, thoughts or belief systems.
Communism in any form or attempt of it are the the most clear examples of authoritarism.
One does not need more arguments than that. Individual Self Rule is the future of mankind not programmed communities and authoritarian regimes.
Defending authoritarian regimes is a waste of time.
Do you realize that you are writing in slogans?
The Saker
“i don’t need an elite managing my resources, thoughts or belief systems.”
Do you mean like the board of directors of any multinational corporation, their lobbyists in DC or Brussels, the European Commission and COREPER, the European Round Table of Industrialists, the Bilderberg Group, etc, etc?
Yes, you are right, those transparent, accountable and democratic structures have nothing to do with the Soviet nomenklatura!
I have so many thoughts about this excellent discourse that I can hardly bring them forward. But before these thoughts become clear enough to be expressed, I must now refer to the statements in the article about SU’s role in Afghanistan. First, I agree with comments that point out that the SU was invited to support the Afghan government of that time, so there was no invasion, but perhaps an ill-conceived intervention at a time when SU was already being weakened from inside and outside (the Brez plot). Second, as a civilian consultant with 2,5 years of assignment in Afghanistan between 2004 and 2011 for UNDP, EU, GIZ and USAID (yes, even them…) I have had enough opportunity to look around in places like Kabul, Faizabad in Badakhshan, Pul-e-Khumri in Baghlan, Mazaar-e-Sharif in Bakhtia, to agree with the statements in this article about the contributions made by the SU to Afghanistan. The Mikroyan housing estates in Kabul were built by the SU, the great (grain) Silo of Kabul also, the water supply taps along the main roads in Kabul also, the Sangan pass and tunnels that connect Kabul with the Northern provinces were rehabilitated by the SU and still function today, numerous water – energy projects in provinces were initiated and some completed by SU engineers and Afghan workers; the main canal artery of Pul-eKumbri was restored by SU engineers. I have pictures of all these sites. Baghram airbase was already mentioned in the article, it’s now an infamous prison camp for the US.
I have seen roads in the province that were built by USAID which broke down after 2 years of usage, because of corrupt procurement (pictures available…). BTW, I have also seen road built by USAID in Pakistan which are near disintegration after a few years usage (Pics…). I have not seen any substantial contributions made by the US/NATO forces to that country, except ‘road blocks and check points’ which are ineffective and dangerous both for the traffic and for the Afghan personnel. Just check the new note on security in Kabul at AAN: https://www.afghanistan-analysts.org/the-new-kabul-green-belt-security-plan-more-security-for-whom/
It’s a mess, and I love all Afghan people who’m I have met.
Back to the issue
There is a higher-order refutation of Marxism-Leninism in the early writings of the much-reviled Lyndon LaRouche (“Dialectical Economics,” 1974), a former Marxist who “corrected” Marx with a new model of expanded social reproduction in which science and technology bring human creativity to the fore, rather than Marx’s productive “forces, means and modes,” as the primary reason of the economic and social evolution of mankind over the long sweep of history. It even offers a thermodynamic explanation of functions such as potential relative population density and energy flux density in an exponential growth curve which empirically defies commonly accepted notions of entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics as applied to human economy and society in Malthusian and Manchesterian capitalist schools which Marx accepted as essentially representative of “capitalism” while ignoring the work of fellow Germans Friedrich List and (earlier) Gotttfried Leibniz, inter alia, toward an alternative school of economic development and political order which runs completely counter to the present “environmentalist” (they really aren’t) hysterical dogmas of anthropogenic climate change, rabid opposition to nuclear energy and ZPG theories leading to ultimate oligarchical control of a degraded human race stripped of its birthright to the fruit of scientific and technological progress, beyond the limitations of even our earthly domain. For a while, common ground was even established (opportunistically, perhaps, because Quaker-born LaRouche was essentially an atheist) between these views and the “Imago Viva Dei” precept from Genesis concerning the divine origin of human reason and creativity as a continuation of the ongoing act of Creation, in fulfillment of God’s plan for the created. Countless research projects and papers originated from this and other philosophical, scientific, cultural and artistic directions the organization took during its intellectual prime. Unfortunately “LaRouchism” devolved into a personality cult which eventually caused the disintegration of his movement after considerable political gains in the mid-eighties (several primary election wins) and brought upon his organization the full punitive force of the US judiciary. While many charges were factually based, lawyers and judges I have come to know in my later career are quick to acknowledge that the legal prosecution of LaRouche and a number of his followers, resulting in their incarceration in the late eighties, was nothing more than a top-down political witch hunt to shut down the organization as a credible threat to the “establishment,” backed by a legal, political and especially media onslaught against this incipient force, every bit as brutal and all-encompassing as the current MSM “fake news” brainwashing campaign against the American population and their perception of potential allies such as the Russian Federation and the obscene, self-righteous portrayal of “tyrants” to be brought down in other countries, such as Milosevic, Hussein, Gaddafi and (almost) Assad. In fact, you could consider the LaRouche takedown an early forerunner of such scorched-earth wipe-out operations, whose features have been further honed and perfected in the intervening three decades, even as they show early signs of finally falling apart (Lincoln’s aphorism about fooling some of the people, etc., comes to mind). Yet even some time after his downfall, in 2001, LaRouche was recognized by the Russian Academy of Sciences for his presentation in June of that year to the Lebedev Institute of Physics on the significance of Vladimir Vernadsky’s proposition of the noosphere as a new way of looking at physical laws following the advent of human reason as a self-reflective new feature of the universe. Hints of such thought processes were already present in the writings of American System economists like Hamilton, Clay and Carey which apparently Marx took little note of but in fact represented a long-standing train of thought in European science and republican efforts to overthrow the rule of oligarchy. That Marx, in his research and analysis, was swayed by the distinctly British empiricist-nominalist bias of his British patrons (whose historical and philosophical filters made Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Thomas Malthus and other agents of the British East India Company the architects of Western “capitalism” in his mind) did not escape scrutiny by LaRouche and a robust team of researchers and writers, well versed even by Ivy League academic standards, who fleshed out an economic, political, scientific and social timeline ultimately dovetailing with both Christian economic thought and Vernadsky’s physical theses from the Soviet era. As you are an anti-communist who cannot deny the accuracy of its diagnostic component and resent crude anti-communist sloganeering and American jingoism which stands for en even inferior product, having rejected LaRouchism myself as a political vocation (which at least freed me from my earlier commitment to Marxism), I still cannot abide by the simplistic epithets hurled at this nearly-successful and distinctly American school of thought and reject aspersions cast against its members and former members of being now or ever members of a “cult.” Where reason and creativity are held in such high regard, regardless of its ultimate failure and of those who fought for it the hardest, such an effort has a proper place in history, and indeed some of its unique features occasionally turn up in blogs and commentary posts of various intelligent websites and YouTube channels. Your article prompted me to post it here. Thank you,
Well, your concept of communisme is very deceptive. Sorry to say that. You should look under cover and see how that ideology has emerged, by whom, and the millions of death it has stands on : a talmudic universalism. Making a parallel with Said Qutb, a leading figure of political islamism, confims it, in the sens that all wahhabies and their killers (ISIS and so on), are building ouma islamia ; a universal talumudic concept. Comparing soviet contribution in afghansitan to the US one, is like comparing French colonialism to British colonialisme. The aim is the same. And yes communism is not death, it has a specious face and a new name : capitalism. I refer you for that last word to Marx’s capital.
During communist years a joke was circulating in Romania.
Q: What USA means?
A: Uniunea Sovietica Ailaltă. (In Romanian ailalta, means ‘the other’).
Che Guevara– Viva! Hasta la Victoria Siempre! “Che! – Among the Greatest Revolutionaries of the 20th Century”.
By Peter Koenig
https://www.globalresearch.ca/che-guevara-viva-hasta-la-victoria-siempre-che-among-the-greatest-revolutionaries-of-the-20th-century/5613120
I formative, well written account of his life and accomplishments.
I wonder what Che thought about the Cuban revolution. Did he realize that the US elites actually deliberately aided communism to rise to power there? He probably didnt since he expected to have a chance in South America. The M.I.C. only needed Cuba for their aim to raise the redscare, not more. In addition the Cuban Nickel wasnt needed right then since the Nickel cartel hade a surplus and Battistas plans to develop the Cuban economy, have an educated middle class etc, was not in the interest of the US malthusians.
Castros forces never won a battle. How could Che not understand that there was something suspicious about it? Maybe he believed in McCarthy’s warnings, that Moscow had infiltrated the US.
Communism is not dead and can never die!
After the first paragraph – excellent and superlative!
Saker, your past work as a translator who interviewed ” hundred of refugees from the Soviet Union” sounds really fascinating. I would think somebody with your political and intellectual acumen could provide us with some fascinating stories and anecdotes.
“First, the Communist ideology, as such, has never been comprehensibly defeated, if only because no other ideology comparable in scope and depth has emerged to challenge, nevermind refute or replace, Communism.” Defeating communism is like defeating freedom or faith or love – you can never defeat such an important idea. Communism grows and changes like anything, as you wrote: “To conflate 21st century Communists with their 19th century predecessors is unforgivably stupid and ignorant.”
It’s very unfortunate that early communism was not as tolerant of religion as it was of different nationalities. Perhaps they had a point that the religious authorities too Allied with reactionary forces in certain countries, but what is certain is that this anti-religion cannot stand. And this is why Cuba still has Santeria and the Pope goes there, and China is accepting Confucianism more and more. We could say that Iran was the first country to combine a steadfast defense of economic and democratic socialism with an equally steadfast defense of religion…and it has insured not just Iran’s survival but its current success.
Re: North Korea’s Juche System: I think that, given the current situation, a little bit of communism is a lot! Any open rejection of capitalism, even if partial, constitutes a major break with feudalism and imperialism, the two ruling ideologies since man started living in cities. So North Korea’s Juche ideology is, to me, extremely communist, and on the Stalinist wing.
I think the Saker understands my view of socialism very well (I am quite flattered by that): “’Instead he refers to ‘socialism’ as a set of underlying values and principles common to the Marxist and Islamic worldview.” That is precisely right – I see socialism as a moral set of values. Many of them overlap with Islam, which to me shows the morality of socialism. I see it overlaps for capitalism with only the more perhaps-outdated aspects of the Abrahamic religions.
But while one could choose to reject Marxism from a moral point of view, if they insisted, I think it is absolutely impossible to reject it from an economic point of view. Nobody has presented anything which can ensure global prosperity, efficiency, and success in the economic realm more than Marxism. This is why I will always defend it – I do not say that “there is no alternative”, I say that I have not seen any alternative presented yet. I think any alternative will simply be neo-marxism, that is the say, Marxists and anticapitalist/ at its core.
How can any future choose imperialism over brotherhood?
I liked this piece for the ways it undresses the unbelievably silly charges that capitalism makes up as it goes along against communism. These charges should insult the intelligence of all but the most slow-witted citizens, and yet they are swallowed and regurgitated as sweetly as cocacola.
And of course one of the things that imperial capitalism likes to repeat is that communism is dead, very dead, has been long dead, will remain dead… because it has been conclusively proven it does not work.
But if it is so dead, long dead, very dead, one wonders why this fact needs to be repeated so often. Wouldn’t that qualify for the expression “beating a dead horse”? And who is doing the beating? Those who keep claiming it’s a dead horse and it was a very bad horse while he was alive. Or those who say the horse is actually alive and doing well.
There is at least a couple of things I disagree with about the article, and I will get that out of the way first.
1. I especially and vehemently reject the notion that what Satan offers Christ in Matthew 4:1-11 has anything whatsoever to do with a “utopian society”. Where does this come from? It doesn’t even fit in the category of hyperbolic metaphor. Satan The Narcissist is just offering Christ a big bribe in return for worship, because Satan likes to be told how great he is, and hearing it from the mouth of Man Himself would be pure ecstasy, I suppose. But fat chance the Nazarene will ever worship Luzbel (Lucifer) that insufferable snowflake in love with himself before he fell. That is what the passage is all about. But what does this have to do with offering a utopian society? He is just offering a personal bribe. Society can screw itself for all that Satan cares.
I do agree that communism belongs in the realm of “utopian” ideologies in the sense that it aims at a certain social ideal which in reality it cannot fully attain, and it knows it – ideal entities being by definition unattainable in the real world. But so what? I draw a circle and it is not perfect. But the ideal circle my mind uses as a model, that one does exist, somewhere. It seems to me that all plans, all courses of action aimed at the bettering of something, must first conceive of an “ideal” form of that thing which they seek to create or improve, if only to visualize what to aim for, establish the general direction on which they should proceed.
A charge that can reasonably be made against communism is its apparently exclusive focus on material conditions as a the key for the betterment of society or social organization. It seems as if the preoccupation with improving material conditions could sometimes become an end itself and neglect the ministering and fostering of spiritual matters. But then this is even more true in capitalist societies, its essence condensed in the image of the proverbial miser of yore, whose most intense spiritual pleasure consists in going to the hole where he keeps his gold coins hidden, and touching them, caressing them, running them through his fingers, salivating. Or closer to the present, the very wealthy soprano man sitting by the pool in his mansion, admiring his possessions and trying to improve his mood by repeating to himself: all this is mine.
It seems to me that after a certain minimum level of material security, the ministering of non-material needs becomes a matter of personal choice. The state should not meddle in that.
There is a constant to and fro vacillation between communism understood as a set of rules or the writings of certain people, and communism as the actual praxis of attempting to create and run an egalitarian society based on those sketches. No communist/socialist society has based itself on some kind of holy communist Scriptures, least of all among them Das Kapital, most of which consists in an analysis/critique of Capitalism. There was Mao’s Red Book, and Gadafi’s Green Book, but these were just short general guidelines and wisdoms. The actual praxis is necessarily a learning process as you go along. Nimbleness of foot to adapt is key. Look at Cuba. Praxis can and should correct its course and deviate from theoretical prescriptions when they prove counterproductive. Thus if some marxist set of works advocates the imposition of atheism down the throats of people, and then it turns out that attempting to eliminate the religious drive in human beings reveals itself as an extremely stupid idea, why, then you correct it (unless you are a very silly goose, like Richard Dawkins). Allow religious worship. Respect it. Support it. As they do in Cuba.
But if a person must spend all her waking hours struggling for mere physical survival, as multitudes do in exploitative extracting systems, none of the other stuff is possible. In this sense, capitalism is the true satanic arrangement, offering “hell on earth” to the multitudes, while promising “heaven on earth” to the few if they just agree to hone their greed up yet another notch.
It should be fairly easy to establish that, in most known cases, a society switching to a socialist/communist model rapidly results in tangible improvement in the overall “human development” or “wellbeing” of the society as a whole. In some cases, when not impeded by wars, the improvement is spectacularly swift, as was in Cuba. When the sandinistas won the elections and came to power in Nicaragua in the 1980s, they turned things around for the better very quickly. Of course this was intolerable to the US, so they did the usual: hire some terrorist mercenaries (call them “contras”, so it doesn’t sound as bad) and let them loose until the society is exhausted and abandons that system. Conversely, it should be equally easy to document that in mot cases when a socialist society is brought to an end to bring home the beauty of capitalism, the result is a very quick deterioration of conditions for the many, sometimes to catastrophic levels.
The charge that communism does not take into account certain supposedly fixed features of “human nature” such as incorrigible greed, is without merit. Human nature exists, but what it consists of is not really definable beyond a few boring platitudes. The fact is that attitudes, behavior, expectations, mentality, are very amenable to being molded by conditioning. Capitalism knows this better than any other system, which is why the science that has made the greatest advances is the science of propaganda and mind control.
The ability to re-shape the mental fabric of a society, its attitudes, and to turn it either in the direction of sociopathic behaviors based on personal greed and alienation (capitalist model) or in the exact opposite direction of raised social conscience, is not a “faith” in the existence of fairies. It is an observable fact. Of course some psychopaths are truly incorrigible under any system.
It is sometimes argued that communist societies don’t have much room for the free flourishing of artistic sensibilities, unlike capitalist societies which permit and even encourage the exposition of extremely advanced freedoms, like Christ wallowing through a pool of urine and excrement, or the Mary of Nazareth in a wild orgy, or symphonies made of random screeching noises, or countless other samples of avant-garde nonsense that was produced throughout the 20th century in the West, while in communist Russia, a painter like Aleksandr Laktionov paid no attention to any of that idiocy and produced paintings like “Visiting my grandmother” or “Letter from the front”.
http://www.artnet.com/artists/alexander-laktionov/visiting-my-grandmother-deoIJF-taabsm6qOkpQk5A2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwZsYu_BzTw
Or while Pavel Chesnokov wrote some of the most superb church choral music I have ever heard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmfMx6GFts (although I should say that the demolition of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior by some monumentally stupid authorities, because they deemed it an “unnecessary luxury”, caused Chesnokov such grief that he stopped writing music, poor thing).
I believe communism/socialism whatever name you give it, will not ever die because it springs from a default position, it is an inbuilt reaction to the monstrously sadistic practices of current capitalism, which is truly and openly satanic in its destructiveness. In terms of moral compass comparison between the two systems, there is just no comparison.
A while ago I listened to a superb interpretation of a transcription for classical guitar of a Handel passacaglia. The guitarist, Pat Coldrick, worked on it for 2 full years. Throughout that time, I am sure the “ideal” or “utopian” interpretation he was after is something he heard in his mind and at the same time something he was discovering and modifying as he went along. The fact that he was pursuing some kind of “utopic” or “ideal” performance and that he may not have matched exactly the ideal, did not render his endeavor satanic in any way. On the contrary, it was an angelic enterprise.
Pat Coldrick on classical guitar playing Handel’s passacaglia from Suite No.7 for Harpsichord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgsvVxzv15Y
Communism is not dead. It is “undead”. A zombie.
It should be made clear that Matthew 25:15 is not a general commandment regarding social justice and its meaning is not what it is supposed to mean. It is part of the parable of the talents, where the master gives to his three servants a different amount of money ‘according to their abilities’, in order to multiply them, in other words to make a profit, through trade and even through usury!
“14 For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. 15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. 16 Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. 17 And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. 18 But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord’s money. 19 After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. 20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. 21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. 22 He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. 23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. 24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: 25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. 26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: 27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. 28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. 29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. 30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth”.
WizOz:
A short while ago I had answered to your first comment (WizOz on October 12, 2017 ·at 7:21 am UTC). Without the knowledge of this second one, I had included a reference to the parable that you’re quoting.
The Parable can be interpreted in different ways. To state that it favors usury is plain wrong. That’s one of many interpretations. People should decide for themselves which of the several explanations is closer to the truth.
You have noticed that at Luke 19:1-10 (the Zacchaeus episode) the Christ does not condemn tax collection (nor tax collectors). It is followed by 19:11-27, which is the same (in a slightly different form) as Matthew 25: 14-30 in which does not condemn usury (I did not say or suggest that it ‘favors’ usury – in fact originally, usury meant interest of any kind). The ending is about the king exercising his royal prerogative of condemning his enemies and executing them.
He did not condemn slavery either, the Roman Empire (“Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”), he does not challenge the authority of Pilate (“You would have no authority over Me unless it were given to you from above”). He did not come to make a revolution. Christ mission transcends the world.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not judged: but he that believeth not is judged already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the judgement, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God” (John 3:16-21).
“I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. 9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. 10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them” (John 17:6-10).
The correct interpretation of the words of Christ is the one of the Church, because it was given to the Apostles directly by the Christ and the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Truth, who will stay with them forever:
“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high [the Pentecost] (Luke 24:44-49).
WizOz:
Isn’t Communism / Socialism based on taxes as well the special form of Capitalism with social elements? Full fledged Capitalists are against any form of taxation. Tax collection is something entirely different than usury.
Whatever version of Matthew 25: 14-30) is told (the one with talents or the one with bags of gold) doesn’t change the fact that different interpretations of this parable exist. The word “parable” tells it all. Jesus also used parables. When he talked about weeds growing among the good seed (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13:24-30&version=KJV), he wasn’t talking about agriculture. Jesus was talking about the seed of faith and of people keeping to the word of God.
He did not condemn slavery either, the Roman Empire (“Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”),
The interpretation of permitting slavery is quite bold. The full text (Mark 12) doesn’t state anything about slavery (http://biblehub.com/bsb/mark/12.htm).
he does not challenge the authority of Pilate (“You would have no authority over Me unless it were given to you from above”).
That’s correct. In the greater context each and every person of power got to the position because God permitted this to happen – knowing already the outcome (be it positive or negative for those being ruled).
He did not come to make a revolution.
Nobody said that Jesus came to lead a revolution, although his presence and him challenging those in power was revolutionary in its own way. His actions showed his followers the real world. Even nowadays most people probably would rather want some strongman released from prison than someone verbally challenging the actions of the powerful.
The correct interpretation of the words of Christ is the one of the Church,
Church … What is Church? Are you talking about the institution or do you refer to the original meaning? Whenever people are talking about Church they have the institution in mind, whereas the origins of the word seem to be in the community of Christians (http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/church/).
Probably you’ll have heard of the “Acts of Peter” (part of the Apocrypha). Especially the part after he had been crucified upside down is an interesting read.
You can’t say that “Jesus also” used parables. The parables in the Gospel are all told by Jesus (“I have spoken these things to you as illustrations. [But] A time is coming when I will no longer speak to you this way, but I will tell you plainly about the Father”).
People carelessly play on words questioning ‘What is Church?’. Christ Himself said he would build the Church on the rock of Peter’s confession of the divinity of Christ.
The community of Christians, which is THE CHURCH, was ‘instituted’ by the Christ as well as the priesthood to whom, through the Apostles, was given the ‘power of the keys’ which open the Kingdom of God, the power to bind and loose (the real meaning is the power to declare what is prohibited and unlawful, the canon for correct interpretation and praxis, the ‘sound doctrine’). The Church is therefore an ‘institution’ from the very beginning.
I am not sure what are you getting at by introducing the ‘Acts of Peter’ (of which I certainly more than heard of), but they can’t override the canonical Scriptures, whatever the ‘professors’ who built careers exploiting the apocryphal writings want you to believe. For sure, we have been warned that the time would come (and it is here now) “when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So, they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to fables.…”(2 Timothy 4:5)
WizOz:
You can’t say that “Jesus also” used parables.
Correct. My mistake.
People carelessly play on words questioning ‘What is Church?’
I don’t mind if you consider the question careless. When I had written about institution and the original meaning I tried to communicate something entirely different. Churches are run like businesses (institution). For example, the Catholic Church makes lots of money by renting real estate to designer labels. They’re even hiring consulting companies to better manage and to streamline this source of revenue. Several “institutions”, like the Protestant Church and the Catholic Church provide military chaplains. Whilst you may find Christians amongst military personnel it’s nevertheless a contradiction to have priests serving the military. The in
Until Martin Luther protested you could buy salvation from the “institution” called Catholic Church. Well, … fortunate for the rich and a catastrophe for the poor. As far as I know the stupid ordinary folks got their sermons in Latin. Only a small fraction of people (the ones with an appropriate education) were able to understand what had been told during service. The witch hunts – prosecution, conviction and execution – were also conducted by several “institutions” of the Church.
If some priest of one of the existing denominations teaches something it isn’t necessarily a Christian message. I doubt that the message of hatred (spewed by Protestant priests as well as some Catholic priests) towards Jewish people (33-45) had been in accordance with the message of the New Testament.
The community of Christians, which is THE CHURCH, …
Correct, you got my point. The community of Christians.
I am not sure what are you getting at by introducing the ‘Acts of Peter’ (of which I certainly more than heard of), but they can’t override the canonical Scriptures, …
Nobody said anything about Apocrypha overriding the Canonical Scriptures. They’re not even proven to be genuine. Nevertheless the part that I had in mind fits:
… he made the things of the right hand into left hand and the left hand into right hand, and changed about all the marks of their nature, so that he thought those things that were not fair to be fair, and those that were in truth evil, to be good. …
Don’t humans twist and distort everything? Think for example of humanitarian intervention or responsibility to protect. The bailout to keep the economy from a complete crash was a bailout for the one-percenter of the one-percenter.
For sure, we have been warned that the time would come (and it is here now) “when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own …
Correct. Your words remind me of a few of those evangelical priests that I’ve seen on the internet. Some even think that doomsday has arrived now that Football players start kneeling whilst the national anthem is played.
The major problem nowadays is that you’ve to analyze everything that others are trying to make you believe. I’ve got the feeling that the words of Matthew 7:15-20 may be more true in present times than they ever have been.
Something else that makes me wonder is all those folks that are “knowing” that they’re saved (you’ll find many of them in the comment section of online pastors). I don’t know anything like that. I pray that I’ll be guided the right path and I hope that I’m doing the right things, but I know that I’m just a human with lots of mistakes and that I don’t know if I’m saved or not.
I have to add a sentence to avoid any misunderstanding:
When I wrote Your words remind me of a few of those evangelical priests that I’ve seen on the internet., I was referring to the quote of 2 Timothy 4:5. Those words remind me of …
@message of hatred towards Jewish people (33-45)
I guess that the unclear quotation refers to the harsh words of Jesus to the Pharisees and Scribes who stand for the Jewish people:
29“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous, 30and you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31Thus you testify against yourselves that you are descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your ancestors. 33You snakes, you brood of vipers! How can you escape being sentenced to hell?
34Therefore I send you prophets, sages, and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town, 35so that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all this will come upon this generation. 37“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often have I desired to gather your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! 38See, your house is left to you, desolate. 39For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord.’(Matthew 23:29-39).
“So you are witnesses who consent to the deeds of your fathers: They killed the prophets, and you build their tombs. 49Because of this, the Wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles; some of them they will kill and others they will persecute.’ 50As a result, this generation will be charged with the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the foundation of the world” (Luke 11:48-50).
Do you really believe that Jesus own words recorded in three Gospel (and given place of pride) are not ‘in accordance with the message of the New Testament’?
WizOz:
@message of hatred towards Jewish people (33-45)
Search the internet for pictures of Catholic Priests saluting Hitler. When I first was made aware of those pictures I searched for the involvement of Protestants. Although many Protestant priests are more liberal than their Catholic counterparts, I was surprised to discover that the percentage of supporters for Hitler had been higher.
Whilst prophecy will be fulfilled over the course of time, it begs still the question if someone should participate willfully. Jewish people had been persecuted for a long time in history (I’m talking of the time after Jesus crucifixion.), but the culmination was the Holocaust. Did people know what they were doing? Is the fulfillment of prophecies more important than The Ten Commandments? I can only pray and hope for that nobody will be able to trick me into doing their evil work, even if they’re thinking it’s for a good cause.
Just recently I was made aware of books written by John MacArthur jr. This evangelical pastor, as well as other religious zealots of Judaism and Islam are longing for the fulfillment of prophecies and would like to force Armageddon upon us. Efforts are underway at building the Third Temple as well as breeding the red heifer. In my opinion such considerations are sick and people are challenging God by working towards judgement day. Don’t they realize that by attempting at speeding up the process they might deny others the time to realize the real status of Jesus and to convert to Christianity?
Do you really believe that Jesus own words recorded in three Gospel (and given place of pride) are not ‘in accordance with the message of the New Testament’?
Did I write anything like that?
The message the New Testament is a message of Love.
You evade the question by the typical ‘argumentum ad Hitlerum’.
There are the Jews (contemporary) who say that “such teaching that calls Jews Jesus killers are from Satan”.
Jesus said that Jews would kill him, ergo he is from Satan (what Jews always said).
And wouldn’t they say that the words of Christ to the Jews: “But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father… 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him”, is a ‘message of hate’?
I gather that you believe that the writers of the Gospels have falsified the ‘true message’ of the Christ.
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‘Communism’ will never die … and nor will ‘capitalism’!
Let us face it. If both of these ‘-isms’ are rooted deep in human nature, how can we expect either one of them to disappear?
Justification: An old childless widow, owner of ‘Big-X’ property, nears death. Two possible human responses to the situation:
‘Capitalist’ response: If I can get hold of ‘Big-X’ somehow — anyhow — surely I can put it to more efficient economic use. That will add to wealth all around — or at least to my own wealth, since I am such a brilliant, no-nonsense manager. Even if I have to push the lady a bit towards her imminent death, towards the great and noble economic purpose, I must not hesitate to do that. Indeed, in the interests of the ‘global economy’ I must do it. ‘Karma’ be damned!
‘Communist’ response: Let us make sure the lady passes her last few days/weeks/months in peace, and persuade her to leave the property ‘Big-X’ for the local school/ library/ public garden … or whatever the village/town needs. That is the right thing to do, and surely a group of responsible elders of the community can work towards that noble goal.
As long as Homo Sapiens inhabit this planet, one or the other of these two possible responses will arise in human hearts. Sometimes even a single heart may be conflicted. This conclusion follows from no more than the so-called Gaussian distribution of attributes in a large population.
The conflicted hearts are likely to be close to the ‘mean’ of the Gaussian curve. The ‘truly mean-spirited’ and the ‘truly public-spirited’ responses will be from points significantly away from the ‘statistical mean’ of the population, on either side.
Passions of the heart give shape to the prescriptive parts of ‘-isms’, even assuming that analyses can be objective. Whereas ‘-isms’ do not give shape to passions — they simply provide convenient prescriptions to dress up the passions of the heart.
It is difficult to imagine the world inhabited by Homo Sapiens in which the above two phenomena will cease to be at work. The pendulum will presumably swing slowly and inexorably from one end to the other. What drives the passions of the heart, we struggle to discover …
Communism/Capitalism derive not from the ‘passions of the heart’ but of the belly and underbelly (ἐπιθυμητικόν, concupiscentia). The heart is infected by the lower passions.
What is an Orthodox response to the problem?
“Catholicism permitted the worldly spirit to nourish the Christianity of the West. It steeped Christian thought in the rationalism and the pagan disposition of the ancient Greeks. Finally, with the Infallibility of the Pope, Catholicism brought a mechanical element into the relation between God and man, teaching that God promised to speak through the mouth of sinful and haughty men, as many of the Popes have been. The Renaissance and humanism were the completion of the Western Christian world’s turn toward idolatry. In reality these were manifestations of men’s disillusionment with an adulterated Christianity. Today humanism has become the religion of the age, unfortunately preached even by so-called Christians as «Hellenic – Christian» civilization.
Protestantism drew Papist rationalism to its extreme conclusions. Protestantism rejected the holiness of the Church and her guidance by the Holy Spirit because it saw neither holiness nor truth in the «church» of the West. Thus it abolished Tradition and left its believers with no criterion of truth or falsehood, estranging the grace of God from its realm forever.
From Protestantism to atheism and materialism, there was no longer a great distance. Many kinds of philosophies began to lay claim to the position of Christian faith in the minds of man, and in the end scientism conquered the world. It had a special power of winning over the masses because its achievements in the field of technology evoked the wonder and rapture of the masses, which, lacking spiritual criteria, fell an easy prey to materialism. Science further gave humanity the false sense of knowledge. It may have changed its views and theories at every moment, but each time these views and theories had the sanctity of proven knowledge; and that influences peoples’ minds in a magic way.
Finally, when humanity, having descended by such steps, became enslaved to the passion of materialism, communism sprang forth. When people even came to believe that the only real good is money, it was natural to demand its equitable distribution from governments which were apathetic towards the pain of the impoverished people. This demand filled souls with hate and malice and made them even more unhappy, opening unbridgeable chasms between people and leading many to the hate of Cain. (Whatever we write here does not mean that the fair distribution of money is not an obligation, and a rather fundamental one, of government). That is how the war started between capitalism and communism, which are actually two sister systems identically materialistic and money-worshipping, and divided only by their own interests and the battle over the distribution. The program of both is to turn stones into bread, to unite the world under their influence, and to astonish the world with accomplishments that man could not even imagine. Thus humanity has gradually reached the outer gates of the Antichrist’s kingdom. It has arrived at the point where it has not only the will, but also the ability to respond positively to the three temptations of Lucifer. In a little while, all that will remain will be for the Antichrist himself to take over the general leadership of the universal state, to do away with hunger and poverty forever, and to provide men abundantly with material goods so that in their hearts, filled with pleasure and comfort, there will no longer be a place for God”.
Alexander Kalomiros, “Against false union”, p.12.
@http://www.roacusa.org/htdocs/Catechism/AGAINST%20FALSE%20UNION.pdf
http://www.roacusa.org/htdocs/Catechism/AGAINST%20FALSE%20UNION.pdf
There is one eminently applicable test that Iran is socialist: Namely, that the west wants to destroy Iran in the unending GWOS (Global War on Socialism).
Fe, fi, fo fum, America can smell the blood of a socialist from 10,000 miles away, make no mistake.
– Regards, Shyaku
That is a pretty good test!!!
Not at all. The decisive notion is National Independence, that the regime wishes to develop the economy in the interest of their people and not let the country be looted or to let the foreign elites burden them with debt. If you were right the angloamericans wouldnt have been spreading communism like they actually have. Before 1949, they hated the prospect of a rising capitalist China, so they betrayed the nationalist side and the developments earlier intended by the progressive nationalist reformer Sun Yat Sen.
Before 1917 they hated Russias rapidly developing industrialization and oil production and in addition were desperate to prevent Russia from taking the ‘straits’ ie Konstantinopel.
Before WWI, the angloamericans probably murdered both the reformers Sergei Witte and Pyotr Stolypin.
More Socialism is what the angloamerican empire is imposing on several countries by forced mass immigration. Socialism is no problem when the targeted nations meekly accept to be indebted to the evil empire.
Funny reading this. All socialist system will resulting poverty increasing at best or collapse.
The reason is simple. Without supply and demand market forces accurate pricing of resources is impossible. This means some central planner will guess with the predictable result of mis-allocating precious resources.
Second without a profit motive innovation drops to zero making it a 100% guarantee that the society will soon become obsolete or destroyed.
Exactly what happened tot he USSR, North Korea, Cuba and now Venezuela.
Thanks as always for am interesting perspective. I think it is safe to say that every economic /political system has its winners and losers. Although I’m no student of communism, I think it safe to say that no matter what concessions it makes, it will have plenty of drawbacks.
Capitalism too. In fact, the failures of education you mention probably contribute just as much as old fashioned greed to the precarious state of the US economy. But I would prefer to stick to our system with the hope that if/when it collapses, we might have a chance to return to the classical liberal Jeffersonian values with which we began. We might become poorer, but also wiser.
In which direction does humanity most likely have a future?
– ever more unequal distribution of wealth; attempt of one country and one race to maintain supremacy over the others, all resulting in endless war, hatred and intolerance; devastation of the environment in the name of profit, or…
– more equitable distribution of wealth among all the worlds people; equality and cooperation within the diverse human family; placing the needs of people and the environment over the need for profit; an end to war because the causes of war have been eliminated or at least kept in check.
I think it’s clear that humanity has only one path to a future, to survival and development. Call it what you will.
The malhusian elites dont believe survival and development are compatible, thus they aim to cull the herd, through starvation, deliberate spreading of deceases, any workable method.
Regarding the recurring question of whether communism/socialism “works” based on historical instances, I insist those instances prove not only that it works, but that it works much better than its competing alternative in the vast majority of cases. The only cases where capitalism is brought as comparison is the very reduced number of nations, loosely gathered under the term “western world” or “the international community”. The comparison forgets that this oh so democratic world obtained phenomenal wealth accumulation by direct and brutal colonial or neo-colonial exploitation of entire continents. A pattern that continues. It is the height of absurdity to compare Cuba with a wealthy first world country that has benefited from this system. If you are going to make comparisons, make them with its neighbors that shared the same colonial past, and the difference will jump at you.
Similarly with Russia. Until roughly 1930 it was constantly having to deal with internal conflict and wars partly or wholly instigated by foreign powers. After a short lull in the 1930 came what should have been the final blow: the entire weigh of the German war machine plus forces from various other continental nations, plus the resources of all continental Europe at the disposal of Germany, which controlled it all – all of it thrown at Russia. The fact that it managed to withstand that onslaught is one of the most astonishing feats in history, largely unknown in the West thanks to the Hollywood industry. But once that was over, starting in 1945, what you see is a completely destroyed nation that had just had a large portion of its working age population wiped out, especially males, jump back on its feet and pull off a spectacular process of technical and industrial transformation while facing very rabid opposition from the outside.
Could it had done that if it had been incorporated into the capitalist system? Most definitely not. The incorporation would have taken place only as a provider of cheap resources with a comprador elite. Development in these nations is not allowed by the capitalist system.
One reason for the spectacular swiftness of the development is that Russia is kind of the ideal nation for radical autarky, as it has pretty much all the resources and raw materials it needs.
The case of Cuba in its initial phase (1960-1990) relied significantly on resource assistance from the Soviet Union. Once the Soviet Union was demolished by its own elites, Cuba went through a very difficult period (which they refer to as “período especial”) that lasted through the 1990s, and remarkably it has been able to recover by adapting its system to the new needs, but always within a real, direct democracy socialist framework. Cuba is one of the few places on earth where the word democracy has a meaning connected with its etymology. The word democracy applied to most of Cuba’s neighbors in the region, is a total joke and an insult to anyone’s intelligence.
The reason that the mantras “it’s dead”, “it doesn’t work” are automatically produced and repeated ad nauseam within the capitalist system, is merely a part of the system’s basic self-preservation mechanism. Brainwashing by repeatin a lie over and over, nonstop. It is probable that, at this point, even fetuses in the womb of western women already know perfectly well that communism is dead and doesn’t know. Such is the degree of refinement that the propaganda system has attained in the West.
Like the article here. Communism was first seen in the early Christian church mentioned in the Book of Acts which was not mentioned. The hopelessly selfish bent of humanity is, of course, the tragic flaw of communism. From top to bottom whether a subject or commander, every comrade will jockey themselves into what ever position of personal comfort they can achieve under the circumstances. This establishes the cancer of inequity into the foundation from the first day.
Capitalism is better suited to exploit the selfish nature of man. Men and women innovate to gain greater levels of comfort. The masses then share in the benefits of those innovations some of the time. In those times greater comfort is achieved by all.
The movie “the circle” suggests a transparency through technology as does the trans humanist dream. A quasi telepathic state where no thoughts are private. Of course this is much like Heaven as described by many NDE travelers. It means the end of crime and any actions not in harmony with the governing intelligence.
Christ’s Kingdom will achieve a close to perfect communist state due to the change in nature of it’s citizens. The Zionist’s, as you know, seek instead a counterfeit state in which their anti-Christ will be at the helm.
Communism under the Zionism promises a dystopian caviar communism at best IMHO.
Communism is not for this age!
The best example of a socialist state in our times was in Libya under the benevolent dictator Kaddafi. This somehow goes unnoticed in the west.
Libya had the highest Human Development Index in Africa for decades, at a level comparable to many western european nations. It was a peaceful, prosperous nation with neither opulence nor rampant destitution, with a very egalitarian socialist system for libyans. And yes, Gaddaffi was indeed a “benevolent” ruler. Before him, the country was run by foreign interests, mostly British, who had installed a kinglet of sorts and were just taking their oil pretty much for free. His popularity was never in question. Huge crowds greeted his coming to power in 1969-1970 and all his efforts since were directed to bettering Libyan society and the continent of Africa as a whole. The country was destroyed by the usual method of mercenary terrorists working for Hillary’s US Dept, who murdered him in brutal fashion, much to her delight (we came, we saw, he died, ha, ha ha, she said.) It is a tribute to the effectiveness of America’s brainwashing machine that Gaddafi’s Libya is believed to have been some kind of hell on earth. Well it certainly has become that since the “humanitarian” bombing campaign that destroyed it. But wasn’t like that before at all.
For one thing, the Soviet Union never collapsed. It was dismantled from above by the CPSU party leaders who decided that the Soviet nomenklatura would split up the Soviet “pie” into 15 smaller slices. What happened after that was nothing more than the result of in infighting between these factions. Since nobody ever empowered these gangs of Party apparatchiks to dissolve the USSR or, in fact, to reform it in any way, their actions can only be qualified as a totally illegal coup. All of them, beginning with the Gorbachev and Eltsin gangs were traitors to their Party, to their people and to their country.
Exactly. It was a demolition from within. Grand Theft of historically unheard of proportions. “The greatest fire sale in human history ” as Chris Floyd once called it.
Here is Chris Floyd in 2014 describing the so-called “collapse” (he lived in Moscow at the time)
This dish was served up by willing Russian stooges — dazed patsies like Boris Yeltsin and the wild-eyed market zealots, converts to “Chicago School” economics, who filled his first government and tried, in the space of a few months, to transform a land that had never known capitalism (except in a few slivers of the economy, for a few decades, a century before) into the wet dream of Margaret Thatcher and Milton Friedman. The country was turned over to gangsters and hucksters, and to murky operators in the bowels of the security apparat. These were adherents of a different “Chicago School” — the school of Al Capone.
I lived in Moscow when the Shock Doctrine was reaching its full fury. Murder was rampant: high-flying businessmen were gunned down on the steps of the metro, reporters investigating corruption were blown up in their newspaper offices. Used car salesmen became nation-straddling oligarchs; nuclear engineers and factory managers became drivers and janitors for Western-owned businesses. Ordinary people in threadbare clothes lined the streets and train stations, hawking their few private possessions and family mementos for ever-more worthless rubles. Homeless children — the besprizorniki — roamed the city, in packs or alone, abandoned, dirty, feral, scared. Drunks killed by rotgut turned up in the snow beneath gleaming billboards for Revlon and Marlboro. Casinos proliferated, while local bakeries and health clinics disappeared.
Meanwhile, in the Kremlin, the jihad of the market extremists raged on. With the encouragement of Western governments and the assistance of Western privateers and consultants, the government “auctioned” off a trillion dollars’ worth of public assets to oligarchs and insiders — for $5 billion [five thousandths (5/1000) of its worth]. Much of this money — up to $350 billion from 1992-2001 — was stripped from the country in capital flight and parked safely and profitably in Western financial firms. It was the greatest fire sale in human history.
The death toll of the first 10 years of “demokratsia” in Russia is astounding: an in-depth study published in the British Medical Journal found that “an extra 2.5 million to 3 million Russian adults died in middle age in the period 1992-2001 than would have been expected based on 1991 mortality rates.” Up to 3 million unnecessary deaths — as many as were killed in the Vietnam War.
It’s no wonder that while I was there, in the mid-1990s, the general public had already come to regard “demokratsia” as a dirty word, synonymous with the endemic corruption, ruin and violence that the Western-backed elites had visited upon the country. This cynicism was confirmed by the election of 1996 — my last hurrah in Moscow — when a half-dead Yeltsin, supported vigorously by the West, miraculously overcame a 2 percent popularity rating to win “re-election.” The price of this pyrrhic victory was the final surrender of the state to the oligarchs and security apparatchiks who, along with their American campaign operatives, had engineered the outcome. Flush with victory, they proceeded to push the country into yet another major crash in 1998, when life expectancy rates plummeted to the lowest levels since the famine years of the 1930s.
Master class analysis, I had to read it twice. Thank you.
Let’s try to simply and clarify so that we can all arrive at a common basic reference system: Capitalism is Egoism. Communism is Altruism. Both are parts of Humanity…the two basic behavioral guide-forces of the human species as it has evolved as a lifeform. Neither one is more correct/valid than the other except in certain specific scenarios. It is silly to argue that one is inherently superior to the other, that one is right and the other is wrong.
Capitalism and Communism have both always been with us and will never be dead.
If either becomes too dominant in an individual’s or a social collective’s behavior, this can threaten that individual’s or collective’s survival. The challenge of our governments, our own individual self-government as well as our governments of organized groups of cooperating individuals (families, tribes, fiefdoms, nations) is always to strike the optimal balance between the love of self and the love of others, Egoism and Altruism.
Just because we humans have, over the past few tens of millennia, developed linguistic and logico-philosophical technology (part of our social technology toolkit) to make up words and labels, to taxonomize, for these two driving forces of our behavior in the context of collective organizational government does not make them anything new under the sun, just as Newton’s elucidation of the basic principles of mechanics did not bring into existence the phenomena of inertia, mass, force, etc.
Moreover, even if we humans were ever to become extinct, an ever-increasing possibility as we continue to accelerate our energy- and resource-dissipation capacities and continue to compete for diminishing supplies of resources, the two basic forces of Egoism and Altruism would continue onward in whatever other lifeforms may remain.
It’s true that we can even debate about whether indeed there are two forces, Egoism and Altruism. It can be said that Altruism is just what we do when it’s in our own individual, egotistical best interest (power enhancement) to devote/sacrifice ourselves to others. Egoism is then the only real driving force and Altruism an occasionally useful support. Or, is Altruism the primary guide-force that needs Egoism to keep its elements strong, a whole made of stronger parts is a stronger whole? If one should be primary and the other secondary is the fundamental debate between Capitalism and Communism, and it’s still only clear from history that BOTH are needed, and not that one is superior to the other. Ultimately, both are sides of the same coin: Humanity, and most generally, Life, of which Humanity is a particular form.
Our most important socio-political challenge is then certainly not making a choice between Capitalism and Communism, since that’s a choice we cannot make anyway, but internalizing the basic reality that we are all human beings. In that vein, it would actually be a great step if we make an effort to stop all of our debates over “isms” that falsely divide us. Besides, the harder we look at how to correctly define or apply a given “ism” the clearer it becomes that we can’t achieve a common ground even in semantics, can’t even reach a consensus on what exactly we wish to debate…this is a field not so simple as Newtonian physics.
Let’s stop all this vain, time-wasting talking and thinking in the hazy and gray abstract world of “isms” and look at real problems of how to achieve a sense of common humanity and how to share and manage earth resources sustainably.
We all know, or should know that wars, hot or cold, are not fought over the truth or falsity of “isms” (including religions) but simply over deciding which group (and more particularly its elites) claiming which “isms” going to control earth resources needed to support a desired set of technologies that enable it to live and perpetuate itself, to increase its energy throughput (power).
More often than not the commanders and controllers, the elites who hold the power positions, neither care about nor fully understand any “ism” but only use them as tools to manipulate the masses. Even the founders and leaders of an “ism” are using their ‘ism” as personal political power vehicles whether they realize this or not. So, I say, “Be off with all these isms!”
Let’s put our attention and info-gathering apparatus to work on the questions of: What resources are at stake? Who are the power elites (names, positions) pulling the “ism” puppet strings? What do the members/the puppets (the people, the masses) of the power elites’ “ism” have to gain or lose in being the puppets of the power players, and is it all worth it? Can we, and if so, how can we resolve our conflicts and come together as a single human team before we destroy each other and our spaceship Earth?
The first part of answering this last question lies in understanding that it has nothing to do with the “isms” of political economy.
This is very important subject, and the one that still generates very many often opposite opinions. Both Marxism-Leninism and National Socialism were crated and used to confuse humanity . What was attacked with both abominations who seemingly fought each other, was Christianity and healthy future of human kind. Moreover, even those people who are not educated on Christianity at all, can find it if they carefully observe where the attacks of both Communism and Nazism are bitterly aimed.
Yes, they can both come back in the ever new forms of Left versus Right paradigm. Social experiments of this kind are being done for over 100 years now. Russia is in the center of the fight for and against the human future. It has in itself the seeds of healthy spiritual development, but that is at the same time the reason why it is attacked so heavily by the Adversaries. We are definitely living in interesting, very interesting times. God help us all.
There are at least two elephants in this room which have not been acknowledged in the article or anywhere in the discussion.
The first elephant is the Second World War, which lasted from 1931 (when Japan invaded Manchuria) until 1945, not to mention all the wars since. In the Second World War, according to one estimate, 60 million lives were lost to save humanity from an even worse fate had Nazi Germany and its allies won that war.
Could human history possibly have turned out worse than that had communism triumphed in Poland, Sweden, Germany, France, Britain and the United States as well as in Russia?
In a previous epoch a good many of those who were no less opposed to exploitation, colonialism and war as the author of this blog and its readership, saw in the Russian Revolution and its spread to Western nations as humanity’s hope to prevent any repetition of slaughter of the First World War.
Firstly, as described in “The Lost Revolution: Germany 1918 to 1923” (1982) Communism failed to spread to Germany thanks to the inexperience of the German Communit Party (KPD) [1] and to the efforts of the Freikorps mercenaries and German politicians including Social Democrats.
In 1926, as shown in the last episode of “Days of Hope” (at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icgi10LINAg), Ken Loach’s 4 part drama series of 1975, the British General Strike of 1926 could so easily have turned out differently.
The second elephant in the room is that the Communist Party of Stalin that committed monstrous crimes in Russia and elsewhere was not the same Bolshevik Party that led the revolution of 1917. Of the 1917 Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party only Stalin, Trotsky and two others were left alive and out of prison in 1938. Trotsky had by then been exiled by Stalin and was to be murdered on Stalin’s orders in August 1940.
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[1] As described on pages 111-112 of “The Prophet Unarmed” (1959), Volume 2 of Isaac Deutscer’s trilogy on the Life of Leon Trotsky, in 1923 Heinrich Brandler the leader of the KPD, whilst visiting Moscow, requested that Trotsky, a fluent German speaker, come to Germany to give them some guidance. The troika of Stalin, Zinoviev and Kamanev, then in control of the Central Committee of the Communist of the Soviet Union refused to let Trotsky go, perversely fearing that the leader of the 1917 revolution would repeat in Germany what he had achieved on 4 November 1917 in Saint Petesburg. Had Trotsky gone to Germany, communism would have almost certainly have triumphed in Germany in 1923 and Hitler woould have become a small footnote in history books.
The dissolution of USSR was the result of the actions of some of the 1980s soviet elites. The liberalisation of the soviet economy and politics unleashed forces that caused the disintegration of the economic and political system.
Even though westerners claim that the soviet economy was dreadful and collapsed, there was no economic collapse that caused the destruction of the Soviet state.
But it is true that several eastern bloc countries were in recession in the 1980s and there was dissatisfaction in large sections of the population. Several of the countries borrowed money from western banks, and the 1970’s rise of interest rates and oil price caused them significant problems and indebtedness. Romania, Poland and Yugoslavia were under austerity in the 1980s.
Marx put down his greatest effort to write the capital, but only finished with the first of four books. Engels compiled and released the books two and three. The fourth that was about the history of theory and showing the difference between him and others, he economists never wrote.
The material on which the books were based came in the mid-1860s, but Marx continued until his death in 1883 and that work is collected in the MEGA project. Here I would like to refer to German researcher Michael Heinrich whose lectures on the subject are on YouTube.
It has been painted millions of portraits and lots of busts of Karl Marx, but hardly anyone read the capital except Rosa Luxemburg.
The book shows that one of the most characteristic features of capitalism (unlike former forms of society) is that virtually everything that is manufactured is manufactured in the form of commodities. The commodities are manufactured to be sold in a market.
One of the characteristic features of communism is that the products are manufactured in order to satisfy people’s needs and that they do not appear in a market for sale. Communism therefore means that production of commodities is abolished.
Another characteristic of capitalism is that labor is a product. In order to sell its labor, man limits his own development and adapts to what capitalists need for their capital to increase maximally. With communism, this reduction of man ceases and she has the opportunity to develop freely according to her nature.
In Marx’s criticism of the economics, the basic economic structure that operates under the economic phenomena is found, which has led to the concentration of ownership, environmental degradation and acute threats from a financial crisis (which may alleviate all economic activity) today . It makes both his book and communism more current than ever before.
My English skills is not god enough for Writing. So my answer is in my native language, Swedish.
http://klyvnadenstid.se/2017/10/geopolitikens-dikotomi/
Communism is not viable anymore.
The ideology of the Future will be or Islam or Evangelical Christianity.