by Alexander Mercouris
“OFFICIAL – CHINA RECOGNISES CRIMEAN REFERENDUM”
This is the clear meaning of the statement TASS reports that a senior official of the Chinese Foreign Ministry has made.
The fact that China recognises the Crimean referendum means that de facto (and surely before long de jure) China has recognised Crimea’s unification with Russia. Note also that the official has expressed support for Russia’s Ukrainian policy.
This is the clearest statement from an official source (as opposed to the news media) of China’s position viz the Ukrainian crisis that China has made to date. Because it is made by an official rather than a minister it has gone almost unnoticed. However that is how China works: statements of this sort are first floated in the media, then made formally but at a relatively low level, following which they become uncontested policy. Suffice to say that it is inconceivable that the official in question would have spoken out in this way without clearance from the very highest levels of the Chinese government and the fact that in his conversation to TASS he actually quotes comments made by Xi Jinping in telephone conversations with Putin puts that question beyond doubt.
I have always felt that the Chinese dimension in influencing Russia’s Ukrainian policy is consistently underestimated. I am sure that every single step Moscow has taken since the start of the Ukrainian crisis has been discussed and coordinated with Beijing at the highest possible level. We should not make the mistake of thinking that the only conversations between Putin and Xi Jinping are those that are officially or publicly reported. The Chinese do not want to be seen taking an active or public role in the Ukrainian crisis – which formally speaking has nothing to do with them – but given the importance of China’s support for Russia and the importance of Russia to China, it is a certainty that the two sides have been working closely together with each other and that they are discussing every aspect of this crisis all the time. Knowledge that he has China’s support is one reason for Putin’s confidence in his dealings with the US and the Europeans.
The need to coordinate with Beijing does however place certain constraints on Moscow’s actions. Again I am sure that one reason amongst many why Russia has been wary of intervening actively in the Donbas or of formally recognising the various votes there is because it knows that doing so too obviously or too hastily would not be welcome in Beijing.
China is traditionally very wary of independence declarations (a policy restated with specific reference to the Ukraine by the official quoted by TASS) not because it is worried about Xinjiang or Tibet (where the situation is fully under control) as the west alleges but because it does not want to create a precedent for Taiwan.
Again I do not think many people especially in the west but also in Russia understand what a sensitive issue for China Taiwan is. Suffice to say that a key reason for the Sino Soviet split of the 1960s was precisely Mao Zedong’s anger at what he correctly saw as a lack of support from Moscow over Taiwan.
That does not mean Novorossian independence will not happen or that either the Russians or indeed the Chinese are reconciled to the results of the Maidan coup or to the survival of the present regime in Kiev. Both countries perceive the sort of staged US backed “revolutions” that the Maidan coup was, as a direct challenge and threat to themselves. Both countries are almost certainly agreed that the results of the coup in a key Eurasian state must be reversed. Note how the official, in the clearest possible sign that he is speaking on behalf of the Chinese government, quotes a previously unreported but very revealing remark Xi Jinping said to Putin in one of their telephone conversations, that “there is no smoke without fire”. No guesses who or what that refers to.
However the joint policy of reversing the effects of the Maidan coup is going to be done incrementally, step by step, for many reasons of which China’s concerns about Taiwan are just one.
Anyway, to those who think there is some division between Beijing and Moscow both over the Crimean issue and over the Ukrainian crisis generally, this statement from an official of the Chinese government should finally and once and for all put that question to rest: there is none.
Anonymous, 22 November, 2014 02:43
said: “(Chinese MFA deputy director-general Gui from said during a meeting with Russian reporters, that China does not exclude Crimea from the construction projects of the Silk Road Economic Zone.)”
But in the following paragraph, he (Chinese MFA deputy director-general)responding to the question about the possibility of Crimea participation in the Silk Road project said:” ,“中俄有4300多公里的共同邊界,地方合作也在中俄兩國共同建設絲綢之路經濟帶中發揮重要的作用。 -中方歡迎俄羅斯的所有地方積極參與絲綢之路經濟帶的建設-”。in http://rusnews.cn/ezhong_jingmao/20141122/44204714.html
The last sentence mean “The Chinese side welcomes all parts/regions of Russia to participate actively in the construction of the economic zone of the Silk Road
@ Kat Kan
here is the Explanation for the Moscow Times .
Put yourself in Andrew McChesney’s shoes.
You’re the American editor of the Moscow Times, a newspaper published in Russia in English with a miniscule print circulation but a website that is ranked by Technorati as one of the most linked sources of specialized information about Russia in the world. Funded by foreigners, you have a long, proud history of employing Russian reporters and issuing blistering editorial and news content documenting and criticizing anti-democratic moves by the Kremlin. And now, the Kremlin is in the last stages of a final crackdown on the last vestiges of critical media, a crackdown that nobody in the West seems willing to do too much about.
@Ακαρναν Καππα ( @ Yonatan # Moscow Times )
> And now, the Kremlin is in the last stages of a final crackdown on the last vestiges of critical media
This is not accurate, there is still independent /opposition media such as Dozhd’ (tvrain.ru), Echo Moskvy , grani.ru, well-read bloggers, as well as strong tradition of word-of-the mouth. (It is actually Western press which is a concern; non-mainstream Western press for practical purposes is invisible and so quite irrelevant)
Anyone that publishes Russians throwing babies out of incubators is not worth the time. Which is ALL mainstream western publications and their distributors.
These guys have no shame and are beyond redemption. Pulitzer prize is given to those who can whoosh the most people most of the time. Anyone who reduces the power of these guys deserve more than praise.
“I have developed a certain style over the years. I never make arbitrary decisions — the ones whose outcomes I cannot see,” Putin said. “It’s like when you’re [driving] on the road: if you’re not sure, don’t pass [the car next to you]… You have to be absolutely clear that there’s no upcoming traffic — that you’re truly in control of the situation.”
“Those who are trying to compete with us, are on the wrong side of the road. We’re on the right side of the road, and we’re on cruise control,” Putin stated about the current situation.
Read more: http://uk.businessinsider.com/putin-strong-russia-right-danger-ukraine-2014-11?r=US#ixzz3Jv4yrkQu
I like this quote-if it is accurately translated
http://www.anna-news.info/news where scroll down
is video of interview with Putin- apparently(please check) when Rus was fighting Chechen al-quaeda elements alledgedly fighting for democracy?, west/USA? was complaining that the heavy military response by Rus was disproportionate-VP says now NATO etc does not complain that Ukr military is disproportionate against Donbass
seems to me Vp is doing the rounds to establish a moral case for intervention
good latest tactical cassad tv , ana-news too, but seems to me ukr forces in strength near Gorlovka, west of Mariupol especially—can anyone do a summaryb for non russian speakers?
Ακαρναν Καππα said…
@ Kat Kan
here is the Explanation for the Moscow Times .
Put yourself in Andrew McChesney’s shoes. You’re the American editor of the Moscow Times, a newspaper published in Russia in English with a miniscule print circulation but a website that is ranked by Technorati as one of the most linked sources of specialized information about Russia in the world. Funded by foreigners, you have a long, proud history of employing Russian reporters and issuing blistering editorial and news content documenting and criticizing anti-democratic moves by the Kremlin. And now, the Kremlin is in the last stages of a final crackdown on the last vestiges of critical media, a crackdown that nobody in the West seems willing to do too much about.
Poor innocent fair truthful balanced Moscow Times. This is how they describe the massacre at Odessa
“Odessa, a Black Sea port city with a substantial Russian-speaking population, was the site of deadly clashes between pro-Moscow and pro-European activists this spring. More than 40 people were killed during the violence, most of whom were caught in a building that was set on fire”.
Just like it was a fair equal fight and a big accident. Do you count as “caught” in a building if you’re shot at if you try to escape? did you really die from the fire if you were beaten to death after jumping out a window?
This in a story quoting the Ukraine SBU as having arrested a separatist group in Odessa.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/ukraine-says-it-uncovered-plot-to-create-people-s-republic-in-odessa/510177.html
I for one won’t be sorry if they’re closed down.
many thanks for this – VERY interesting and it is pretty clear what Beijing thinks and what their stance is – spot on analysis :)
In 1999 US President Clinton created the doctrine of self determination which he then used to support Kosovo’s independence from Srbia. Today the same doctrine is in effect with respect to Novo Russyia. The US can’t have it both ways, OK for Kosovo but not OK for Novo Russyia. So, in effect Ukraine is out of the picture as far as having any sy in its former Eastern provinces seeking independence. They have already done that by an international law perspective. Now it is up to NATO to recognize the new state of Novo Russyia and stop the illegal war against it.
Svodki are saying that right sector is getting routed in Peski and Aidar are getting mauled in Schastya and Azov are fighting a rear guard in Mariupol. With the Russian buildup this seems believable because the opposite, that Russia is militarily ineffective this time, is illogical. They seem now to have a strategy of not taking land but to weaken certain units instead. Logically the oligarchs would want to remove these units as threats to themselves and it is only a question of whether the US supports them anyway, meaning the US is a threat to Poroshenko and the oligarchs. If you saw the film The Mouse That Roared it would seem logical for some oligarchs to want to lose to Russia and then get billions in aid that the west does not want to give.