First, some rather amazing “housekeeping” news. I spoke with our webmaster today and he told me that our traffic is now about 10 MILLION pages served per month. On average, we have between 1’000 and 1’300 users connected to our servers at the same time. So the good news is that the blog is booming. The bad one is that this will pull our IT costs even further. However, thanks to the generous support from our Saker Community, right now we have the funds needed to pay for all this – so, again, a huge THANK YOU to all those who helped!
Now let’s turn to the news of the day.
Yesterday the Ukronazi authorities promised a major counter offensive. It did happen, but only in the virtual space. In real space there were a few very limited attacks which were quickly dealt with by the Russian/LDNR forces. The one success for the Ukrainians is an accurate MLRS strike on a Russian forward airfield near Kherson where at least three helicopters, 2 refueling trucks and 11 automobiles were hit and seen burning (no human losses). Remember that the Ukronazis still have Smerch/Tornado MLRS which have a max range of 90km, which allows them to strike very far away from Ukrainian lines and deep inside/behind Russian lines. The good news is that such MLRS rockets are not too hard to intercept. I don’t know what happened last night, but this incident suggests to me that Russia needs to bring in more air defenses to deal with this threat.
This attack on the airport was, apparently, part of that promised “major counter offensive” which, in spite of that successful strike, did not move forward by an inch.
Remember the Russian Black Sea Fleet ship “sunk” by the Ukie MLRS? Here it is entering the bay of Sevastopol today:
I would say that for a burned, sunken and, then, supposedly salvaged from the bottom of the sea, this ship seems to be in mint condition :-)
In the meantime, the White House is promising to send the Ukraine attack drones, longer-range anti-aircraft systems, 800 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, 9,000 anti-tank missiles and 7,000 small arms – plus 20 million rounds of ammunition.
Wait, did I read that correctly? Eight HUNDRED Stinger missiles sent to Nazis and Wahabis in the Ukraine and nobody in the entire EU has the brains to connect the dots and understand what that means for the EU?
As I said, the Eurorodents are suicidal, maybe I should call them the Eurolemmings?
This also begs the question of where all that hardware will go. My bet? Poland. And then most of it will stay there, and only small parties of hardware will be brought in. Why? Because any major weapons dump or concentration of forces will end up like the massive NATO base in Iavorov 24 hours ago.
Furthermore, 7’000 small arms pumped into a country where the Nazi regime has opened all its weapons stores to anybody who wants it will only make things worse… …for the Ukrainian people.
So, this is again the typical US American “feel good” PSYOPs which serve no other purpose than to obfuscate from the clueless public in Zone A what is really happening on the ground.
The same article brings some interesting statistics: “President Biden is expected to announce an additional $800 million in military aid for Ukraine, which would bring the total US support up to $1 billion in the last week alone, and more than $2 billion since Biden took office“.
Today, I want to conclude (maybe temporarily) with the following thought:
Since the Russian ultimatum late last year, all the Empire of Lies has done is double down, then double down again, then double up some more. Worse, it gave itself absolutely no room for negotiations by declaring that what it seeks is a total victory against Russia and “Putin” personally. Now consider this:
- The clear and unambiguous goal of the Empire of Lies is to “cancel Russia”
- Russia cannot take a single step backward, her back is to the proverbial wall
- No matter what Russia does, the Empire of Lies will double down, over and over again
- Russia has enough nuclear and conventional weapons to wipe out both the EU and the US
- The leaders of the Empire of Lies chose to pretend like they don’t know that or, alternatively, that Russia will never dare strike militarily at NATO and/or the USA
To me, this seems to be headed towards a full-scale military confrontation (conventional and nuclear) between the Empire of Lies and Russia.
Can that be avoided?
You tell me, and if you think it can, please outline exactly *how* this outcome can be avoided.
Not by any action of the Eurolemmings, that is for sure. Then how (if at all)?
Thank you
Andrei
Germany needs to join the CSTO and sco. Peace on earth. The end
That is not in the cards, I’m afraid. Not with puppets like Scholz and Baerbock in power here.
I wonder, though, if the puppet masters lost control of their puppet Zelensky. Some voices now say that a neutral Ukraine would not be so bad. Not Zelensky. He wants a NATO of his own – someone to defend Ukraine, someone with nukes. GB, for example.
The West has dug itself into a hole, and doesn’t know how to get out. Not after the propaganda blitz pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia that they subjected us to. If they drop Zelensky / Ukraine, the propagandized masses will kill them.
Ukraine cannot win the war. Only question is if there will be a negotiated end to hostilities – or an unconditional surrender. I suspect the EU would like to go for another negotiated treaty like Minsk I and II. Then they could start climbing down from the sanctions tree (and probably try again the game they played for the last 8 years). But Zelensky doesn’t play along.
That is more hopeful anyway than the prospect of WW3.
Let’s assume Ukraine finally comes to its senses and agrees to Russia’s demands. Will the West end its sanctions and unfreeze Russia’s assets? Don’t think so.
Russia needs to demand an end to all sanctions and unfreezing of all its assets, before doing a peace treaty with Ukraine. The probability of this happening is very low.
The conflict between the West and Rest has started. The Rest needs to join together to gain leverage and maybe China & Russia can lead here. They need to create a bad bank to pull all the Empire’s private currencies holding and use it among themselves, and deny monetary growth to the Empire. This way the Rest can gain leverage. Now united they stand or the Empire will divide and capture.
“A new world is being born.”
Russia’s war will remake the world
https://amp.ft.com/content/21ee7ac4-43ce-4d0b-b9b3-73f51e175830
For the first time in the 400 years history of the usa, there is a real possibility to end the usa once and for all. But the real question is (and the question is as much for The Saker as it is for the rest of people here) whether or not it is in the interest of Russia and China to see the usa removed from the map. This window of opportunity is short and I doubt, that this opportunity will present itself ever again, short of a global nuclear war! We have a real chance of ending the anglo-saxon empire once and for all, and it can be done without firing a single bullet at the direction of nato or usa.
As a citizen, our demise as cannon fodder and a tax base for the rich is necessary for us peasants to throw of the yokes and shackles of the political aristocracy and their gangs, the military and the police. Nor should we be allowed to be one country any longer. We should be four or five. Where I live we are judged to be the 5th largest economy in the world and we have nothing. I’m tired of supporting the incestuous, tobacco chewing morons who are only here to tax us, kill us, and felch the rich.
Let it rot.
Well,how can it be done?
will not happen. The neocons are hell bend on War with Russia. THEY KNEW their time is almost up and they have already started processes they cant reverse (De dollarisation for example). For them its rn a “do or die” situation and they seems to react like all dying empires do. A last desperate gasp for Air before the black fade sets in. It is on Russia and China to hold the dying Body down so it will not Throw nuclear at them.
tbh. i was even in the pandemic still convinced that this moment was still 5 to 10 Years away. somewhere around 2030 or something. that we would first see a tyrannical “Great Reset” with social credit score and 1984 Big Brother, THAN a War against Russia, we would have lost, and finally the rebirth, so that if i may die at old Age i would may see a better future coming.
But Russia reacted to soon so their Plan was disturbed and the Great Reset will very likely not happen. Instead we will probably not even get a short hefty conventional War, but the EU will implode internally and therefor surrender, the US will not have the strength to do shit about it and will left the Continent to the Russians, like leaving with their troops entirely. The strife in Europe caused by the collapse will be brutal, as always, but then the Country’s that emerged will start a new, also like always.
By the speed this all happens rn (and it is even faster then ever in history before) i guess it is all over by 2030. i would say this empirely collapse is so fast because of the FIRE economy that entirely relies on Stock trade and shifting money electronically around and fuel the just in time production.
Back in the days money needs to be transported and stuff produced (or exactly not for that matter) and then it needs some Months or even Years that the effects of this products (or their lack off) have a measurable effect on everything, like break down of infrastructure or social peace etc.
This all will happens today in mere Weeks if not DAYS due to the literal light speed in which production collapse and food shortages can arise, also the constant need of supplies Citys have of today. A serious Food shortage for example can and WILL ruin EVERY modern City within a Month, period. also a Fuel shortage will let collapse any and all supplies to those citys in less than even two weeks.
This would take normally months in old days.
Mr. Ze has a week upper department. But he is very good for a certain type of people who enjoy puppeteering and homoerotic entertainment. The Washington DC people.
The Empire of Lies has been provoking Russia to initiate a nuclear war. The Talmudic idiots and war profiteers might get their wishes but not in the kind they foolishly expect.
Meanwhile, V-Day is approaching. The US/NATO military commanders are coming out as cowards they are in service to the fasicst mega-corporations and Financial Squid. The US/NATO brass has no honor. Their sense of dignity has atrophied a long time ago when they were bombing Jesus out of women and children in Yougoslavia and the Middle East.
The US/NATO brass should invite their adored Mr. Ze to give a homoerotic performance on the graves of the Arlington Memorial and the Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial.
Bring in your major war profiteers to enjoy the show: Cheney and progeny, Blair and progeny, Arbuthnots and progeny, Kagans and progeny. Bush and progeny, Obamas and progeny … all pampered by Financial Squid.
Zelensky is the guy behind the mass murders. He empowered the black general, and instructed anyone who spoke ill of him to be deleted.
You can’t denazify Ukraine without executing Zelensky for unleashing a reign of terror.
Maybe Russians, as a people should give serious thought to, altogether renouncing the social and economic systems which have brought them to this place, and not seek to create parrallel bad systems
@ Ladaisbest
First, old Datsun’s were better than Lada’s. Muuuuuch better. Sorry.
Second, yes, that scenario is possible: that Germany looks east. Both Germany and Japan are re-arming. The meaning of this is, at its simplest, that the treaties that determined the rules of international order in the post WWII space are all abandoned. So, in the aftermath of this operation in Ukraine any format of new alliance is possible.
And this is the point Mr. Andrei, that you miss in your great distress. Is missed generally, in fact. That this is Russia’s operation, played on its terms. So understand it purely as such. It is unfolding, like chess, as a sequence of gambits in which a great deal of forethought has gone into anticipating outcomes in order of likelihood and desirability, and where certain objectives are achieved irrespective of variables, such as duration, resistance, etc.
It has been clear to me from the outset, both on evidence and by what has been done and been clearly stated, that one of primary objectives of this operation has been the deliberate attraction of maximum sanctions by Russia, which are anticipate and for which it has prepared very well. I will let you all think about what the benefits and costs of this are for the two opposing sides – there has been plenty written about it. It is, in my view, a near genius move of historically perfect timing.
What this gambit results in is a separation, a permanent separation of relations between east and west, imposed by the west at Russia’s invitation. No-one can possibly propose that this was not anticipated. It must be one of the highest objectives of this operation and is overlooked by morons in Washington who think they are playing poker.
We are not moving towards a nuclear war. Russia has invited or provoked a separation that it desires, has picked up its ball(s) – namely food and energy – and left the western playing field for good.
This is the scale of the actual crisis facing the west. Russia is not coming back with its ball, and the west can’t steal it and it can’t be persuaded either.
What we are actually seeing unfold instead is a partitioning of the world, accepted by all parties.
The Americas are already negotiating to become a single region of the US co-opting Canada and plundering the south.
The EU must and is (see Germany re-arming) loosen or disentangle into sovereign priorities and initiate a race for the resources of Africa. Again.
And Russia is in the process of allying itself with the remaining conservative or rational regions of the world.
The US also accepts that this is happening, this grand defeat of its global ambition. And I am grateful that Russia has brought us to this sorry point of realisation without the prospect of an all out war. Putin and co have played it beautifully.
Our singular concern this side of new wall, the wrong side this time, is that the west has now lost its stake in the ground, its counterpoint to fundamentalist liberalism which is a greater civilizational threat than even nuclear war. The US/Europe will double down more woke, more surveilled, more cancelled, more controlled, more multicultural, with more demand-destructive enviro-policies and towards tyranny by necessity. It is not a happy prospect.
Germany could well look east.
Well said.
Perhaps the US/West was looking for a defeat from the beginning to bring the population to their knees…
Well, Biden seems so far to be avoiding all-out war with Russia, resisting calls for a no-fly zone..
But you’re right – it’s definitely headed towards a military confrontation between the US and Russia.
The question is, do you think Biden’s regime will try it or will it be someone potentially worse than him after the next election?
Biden is not on the ballot in the ‘next election.’ Under the constitution, the only possible change in President before 2025 would be to Harris should Biden die or become incapable.
I don’t really see that a shift to Republican control of Congress would change things much. Biden is pretty much already at the point where he needs McConnell’s approval for anything he tries to do.
And from the right, there are only grumblings about the war, but no real opposition to it. Alot like Sanders on the left. Grumble for the base, but go along with everything. The Republicans will be trying to figure out how to use inflation and gas prices against the Democrats to regain power, but they don’t provide any real principled opposition to the war. No real principles at all, really. Like all previous such movements, the Republicans only care about taking power.
I know of very few anti-war candidates who are running for Congress in 2024. There will be a few around. I’d imagine the SEP will have a one somewhere. Maybe a couple of old pacifists left in the Green Party? But not many. I don’t know of any that will be listed on my ballot at any level. I’d be surprised if any of them anywhere gets even to double digits of support.
I feel like if the country could somehow limp along to 2024 and if Trump managed to overcome all the election fraud next go-around that it would not only pull us back from the brink of war with Russia, but create another internal crisis for the Neocons where they once again have to redirect their efforts from waging foreign wars to instead attempting a domestic coup. It would take their attention off Russia for a while.
Just a thought – but I really have no clue how things will shake out. There are rumors Hillary is going to be the Democratic nominee in 2024. If she takes power, then it will definitely escalate to nuclear war between the United States and Russia.
Trump Blows. Sorry. I’m not trying to be rude. He did nothing during his stay. It was an absolute disaster. He talks a good game and is charming etc. but he stunk. He brought in all the same regurgitated warmongers from the Bush administration and allowed the borders to go wild blaming the “democrats”. They’re all the same. I voted for him but knew 2 months later we were duped. Putin is so far superior to him intellectually it’s not even funny. Trump saying he was going to bomb Iran’s World Heritage sites, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb. Laughing about stealing Syria’s oil.
Trump should go to that dump of his favorite people in the middle east and shut the hell up.
Trump is Controlled Opposition and has duped a lot of anti-war conservatives like me. I also voted for Mr. Warp Speed and NEA which unleashed two years of Covid tyranny and mass killing by the experimental shots.
Thank you for expressing exactly my path to the unpleasant reality that Trump was just another puppet of the plutocracy who truly rules America. March, 2017 was my wake-up call. Sheldon Adelson was his patron. Now Mike Pence is following in Trump’s footsteps with Miriam Adelson. There are no political options. “Left” or “Right”; “Democrat” or “Republican”; it doesn’t matter. The UniParty of America rules. The party banners are just for show.
Trump really grabbed america by her pu$$y and had his way with her. Kinda, exactly, like a rapist would do and he’ll do it again. The military and police will defend him all the way through as they have no honor and will prove it.
Forget Trump, he did nothing for Russia and would do nothing for Russia if elected. The US policy has not changed and will not change, the elected are not in charge “.”
The past is gone. Trump is out. With Biden however, what we are experiencing now was going to happen.
Delusional. Both parties are puppets for the MIC. Nothing will change by replacing one set of stooges with the other.
Amy Vilela in Nevada claims to be an anti-war candidate running for Congress this year. Her statement says
“Instead of fomenting coups, aggressively trying to expand NATO to Russia’s borders, or otherwise further escalating tensions, the United States government must work towards de-escalation and diplomacy in this delicate moment.”
But she also says: “I strongly and vehemently condemn Russia’s invasion of Ukraine—just like I condemn our own government when we invade other countries across the globe.”
So I dunno. I sent her some money anyway.
I stopped voting after 11-22-1963!
The end of illuZion!
Enough is enouhg!!!
You, “voters’ go on dreaming.
A 2/3 majority, or 67 senators, are required to convict in an impeachment. I do not think we well get there after the 2022 midterms.
My guy Matt Reichel and I tried and did pretty well after Emanuel vacated Blagojevich Rostenkowski’s old seat but then were done in by Madigan now under indictment, who was assisted by all of the liberal filth in Illinois that hated anyone real.
Give it up already.
At least in totalitarian regimes people know they had no choice.
You still believe you have ‘possibilities’ which is even worse because its divorce from reality.
Both sides of the aisle paid by the same Big Money.
Who then through lobbyists create the policy for the direction of the country like the F-35 money pit.
Do you still believe the government listens to you?
Biden isn’t going to win the next election, unless he pulls some fraud, or a month before starts something. But I think that the US will not get involved directly. NATO is battered after 20 years in Afghanistan and it will take it a long time to recover. And what’s the point of risking a nuclear war that you won’t win? US allies will be hit, and where will the money for this war come from for the US?
US will try to use proxy forces, hoping to turn ukraine into a Vietnam for the Russians. That’s its plan. But with Russia’s technology, this will not be successful. US will just stick to sanctions, and may totally end all diplomatic relations with Russia, and enact more sanctions, or get the eurodents to do so. This will only hasten dollar’s demize, as the world economy will need to realign.
Not so sure about that.. Biden sending drones to Ukraine and just called VVP a war criminal… (so what does that make Biden??)
I think that nothing can, or will, come from the next election.
I will leave it at this.
Kind regards
Thanks for your input.
Well, I’ve hesitated to say this because of those whom might be watching but the only *real* way we could deal with this problem long term would be for there to be a mass awakening of the American people to the truth about the psychopath elites running their country, followed by a mass movement, followed by a potential break-up of the country.
You’re right, the sham democracy we have now can only prolong the inevitable.
…both parties are very much afraid of Straussians/neocons/MIC/warmongers… ..only if those beauties will be purge (sent to Antarctica?)american foreign policies will change…Trump tried they steal his election…army know it..
Not much point in voting nationally.
The first election I voted in was McGovern ’72 while I was deployed across the western pond. Could not vote in ’68 because I was under 21 even though I was in the military!
Every other hope I had in subsequent election years was a dissapointment.
Even when my candidate won!
Strange to remember and I do think of it occasionally. I remember no voting and I remember no beer. I remember one hell of a party in Columbus, Ohio when they changed the laws. A serviceman’s revolt was in the offing.
Ditto on the disappointment. Not all of them were as blatant as pervy Unca Joe but most ran only promised never fulfilled. Caitlain Johnstone nails it: It’s cool how US progressives are learning that the Democratic Party is a narrative management op designed to continually derail the possibility of economic justice in America, and it’s sad that this lesson will be completely forgotten in the next partisan politics news cycle. The Democratic Party, as always, won’t do anything that Republicans wouldn’t agree on. Because the Democrats are an arm of the Republican Party. Their role is to protect the Republican Party from left-wing criticism. The role of democrats is to ensure the brutality of imperialism is rendered more palatable.
The people here in Canada and the US need to wake up and then friggin rise up!!
I fully agree. “I think that nothing … will come from the next election” is dead right because the way the political system is set up in the US is making sure that it doesn’t matter at all! If either Dem’s or Rep’s are winning the majority or providing POTUS is irrelevant, it’s the donors, think tanks and pressure groups who have corrupted almost all talking heads in D.C. The few sane and independent thinking exceptions who got elected by mistake will get canceled, thrown out and denigrated, just look at Tulsi Gabbard…
Ahem, what difference does it make which sockpuppet is ele– appointed President of the USA? The position is purely cosmetical.
WARN THE PEOPLE! The people do not think there could ever be a nuclear war, can’t be. But I hear that security folks around here think there will be one, and not that long ago the head of NATO said so. Here in Wisconsin the government and legislature have a bug out location up in the Baraboo Bluffs. Alex Jones is the only one who is pushing the danger emotionally, but it is official. This has become an existential war between Russia and NATO, shoot out at the OK coral, and NATO can’t just keeps poking. Start EVACUATING NEW YOUR and announce it. Get out of DC. Start calling for bomb and fallout shelters. The betrayal of the people is amazing. We are being lied into our own demise. I don’t understand their desperation.
Let’s be real here: If there’s nuclear world war (the danger is certainly real) then it’s better to die among the first rather than the last.
Everyone. Do us all a favour. DO cease talking about BIDEN please. The man is a mere clotheshanger. Say DEMOCRATS or DEEPOCRATS or Neocons or Hillerites or whatever. Let’s deepen the perception terminology a bit. Thanks.
Answer to your question:
Pentagon knows a full scale war would result in yet another defeat for the Pentagon. Yet, the War Party brays for War. The War Party will therefore simply misuse locals ( Ukie’s, Stans, Levantines, and Euros) as cannon fodder to destabilize Russia.
Moscow will likely engage in a dirty war stealthily neutralizing Pentagon bases and units supporting local cannon fodder. For example, RF might quietly sink a ship on the high seas carrying weapons or RF
Will send rockets into a Pentsgon base.
If there is a war in Europe, NATO will lose it.
How is that an outcome the Pentagon or the White House will accept?
What they accept or not, matters little. What they can do about it is the question. Can they do anything about it? In reality they cannot do much, and time is not on their side.
> a war in europe
Any conflict between NATO and the US would morph into a global conflict. China understands better than anyone (they literally wrote the book on it) that if they allow Russia to fall, they will be next. For this reason, a conflict between China and the US is inevitable to some degree. If a fight is unavoidable, strike first, and strike when your enemy is at its weakest–like when they’re in a fight with the second greatest military power. Furthermore, the US occupies is spread thin all over the globe, many regions will rise up when they feel the yanky boot on their neck loosen. US will find itself putting out fires everywhere all at once. This is how empires collapse when they overreach.
Saker,
If there is a little war and a lot of hardware is destroyed there will be a lot of cost plus contacts to replace the destroyed hardware. I wonder if that isnt part of the rationale behind the calls for a no fly zone (aside from low intellect/ignorance).
Mayby the russians must make a direct threath to bomb some military bases in USA, if USA (and Nato) will not stop sending weapons to Ukraine and begann to withdraw its forces from eastern Europe?
Threats are no good. Russia will do as the US did in the Pacific war against Japan. Hit, ask and hit again until there is an answer. At this point, the US is deaf to diplomacy. It will start to listen when it hurts enough. Sad to say, but this is why we have wars. That’s caused by the incapacity of the brain to reconfigure unless the stimulus is strong enough.
Maybe Putin will have no patience for a proxy war against remote controlled zombies.
The same way there was some volcano explosion in Tonga,
the same way there was yet another big ‘earthquake and tsunami’ in Fukushima today,
there will be some very big earthquake in the USA … for starters.
Are the State department and the Pentagon on the same page?
I do not think they are ! The Pentagon and the Russian DOD are surely talking to one another away from politicians!
Well if I am wrong I am wrong but I would like to think they are!!
Slorter. They don’t seem to be. The Pentagon is being remarkably restrained.
no they are on different pages
but it makes no difference
since when there is a weak White House, everybody does his own thing
but the resulting vector right now looks to me like we are headed for war
Putin said Russia won’t fight a war on its territory. Also he said when it’s certain that there will be a war, then strike first. If war with the US becomes certain, do you have an idea how Russia will take the initiative? Would it be like in Ukraine, take out the AD radars, or would it be command/control centers, that is, the Pentagon and White House? Would it be conventional? Putin did say the next war would be nuclear, so would he use nukes for CC centers and then missile silos, etc?
Personally, for the world’s sake, I think the US command and control needs to be taken out. We’ve had enough of their crap.
Sadly i agree, this is a conclusion i came to a little while ago.
What with all the talk of a provocation with chemical weapons being talked about so much in recent days on all sides, it does seem like it’s a foregone conclusion. Then i expect this point zone a will scream that it was Russia, any evidence to the contrary will be dismissed as ‘fake’/’Russian lies’. At that point US/UK/NATO are likely to say they now have to act on a ‘humanitarian basis’, having stoked as much public outrage as possible…..
You have identified it exactly. The militaries are managing the matter directly. The politicians are posturing in an attempt to avoid being blamed by the public. In America the democrat politicians are attempting to create a narrative that Putin is the cause of the economic dislocation, though there have been cartoons affixed to petrol dispensaries and point of sale locations of the president pointing to the cost totals and texting the words “I did that.” The democrat attempt at narrative is much too late and has already failed. Meanwhile, the war party is attempting to take control of the republican party. They appear to be succeeding with the Senate but this is mostly for appearances. The are failing with the House and common membership.
I read several days ago that a back line had been set up between the two military commands.
At the end of the day, it is the military that has to execute the policy and if they refuse to do so, there is nothing the War Party of civilian jackals can do about it. Refusal will not be a public thing. It will be behind the scenes, quiet but firm.
The military has been taken over by the “Woke” idealogy. I am sure there are some factions that are operating in “secret” but it is just a few.
With a miracle? And definitely a lot of GRACE … Cheers!!
It can’t be avoided. With the physically strong and spiritually weak ruling over us we were always going to end up with humanity about to destroy itself. Some religious folks always knew this was going to happen and why. For we wrestle ‘against spiritual wickedness in high places’.
high and low places, euro and generally globolemmings are members of death cult and it seem they don’t mind to die each one separately or all together, as recent poll shows third of americans don’t mind to get incinerated in nuclear armageddon if that is required to counter Russia, examples are aplenty for inquisitive minds and i have no doubts conscious or not satanism is mainstream today religion.
We all should do our small deeds to better the world, rest is in hands of God
Zelensky addressed US congress today, imploring US (and NATO) for a no-fly zone.
He was wearing a t-shirt with what looked like the knight’s cross of the iron cross on it. See it here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10619181/Zelensky-urges-Biden-leader-world-speech-telling-Congress-more.html
Zelensky reminded his audience of Pearl Harbour and 9/11 (both of which took place on US territory, which Ukraine is not!).
Zelensky pre recorded videos based on the premises of planned attack on Donbass on March 9th, 2022.
Very interesting. Do you have a source for the existence of those videos ?
It is a war for our souls…Keep that always in mind.
Dr. Steiner would add that only love and wisdom could save the world. I will repeat it many times more, he as Austrian said: middle and east Europe should be Russian guardian, because future belongs to Russian civilization.
Vatican and katholic company will blow their last candle in year 2130, Europe after year 2200. Mother Russia will and must survive! Or else…
How is it possible that there is no common wisdom in de ranks of US army?
How is it possible that the West isnt afraid?
How is it possible that they are ready to die for Banderists?
1) kuz the smart and decent folks have been pushed out
2) because it is too stupid to understand the threat
3) because they think they will kill for the Banderists, not die for them
The answer is deeply ironic. It’s because of the “best system of government ever”: Western “democracy”.
That system is, of course, utterly undemocratic. It wears the trappings of democracy as a disguise. A very poor disguise, but good enough to fool most of the people all the time.
Because of the series of filters that screen out most candidates at each level, it ensures that only the very worst reach the top positions – where they exercise unlimited power.
It’s like the Roman Empire, except that it is guaranteed to produce only Neros, Caligulas, Commodi, and Elagabali. The parallel is quite close, as – like those Emperors – the leaders imagine themselves godlike and incapable of error.
But today’s system can never choose a Marcus Aurelius, a Julian, or even an Augustus. Anyone with such moral scruples would be deselected at an early stage.
In contrast, the Russian system – although still in flux, and far from perfect – has already given the Russian people Mr Yeltsin and Mr Putin. One weak, the other strong, resolute and intelligent. And Mr Putin has already run the show for 21 years – which proves the Russian system can be flexible in a constructive way. When a really good man reaches the top, they keep him. Now that makes sense.
No. I don’t think it can be avoided. Russia will survive; she has for well over a thousand years. The west won’t.
“You tell me, and if you think it can, please outline exactly *how* this outcome can be avoided.”
I think if Russia brought things to a head, for the Europeans, as quickly as possible, in terms of economic warfare, they would revolt against domination of the trans-Atlantic alliance, that much more quickly. The longer this drags on, the more time the war mongers have to sneak stinger missiles into Ukraine. Not good.
So, completely cutting off oil and gas to Europe, wheat, minerals, etc. until the situation is resolved to Russia’s satisfaction.
Probably, some political game theorist (like Buena de Mesquita) has gamed this out. But, I’ve heard nothing. Since I never hear anything from political game theorists on influencing American elections (for the hoi polloi), either, I assume most all of them work for the government (especially intelligence agencies) and big business.
I’ve corresponded with de Mesquita, and he won’t do anything related to domestic elections.
I became aware of him when he made the front page of the NY Times. See “Can Game Theory Predict When Iran Will Get the Bomb?” on April 12, 2009.
I too wish de Mesquita would do some analysis.
My fear is that there is a dearth of rationality on the part of the powers
that be. To wit, the current Russophobia.
I think de Mesquita presumes rationality on the part of actors.
I think this is a good option, starve Europe. It could actually work, this would make them capitulate. This is what i’ve been imploring. But probably Russia already has something better planned I just requires patience because the West needs to go over some markers already set up in some scenarios.
The thing about threatening the West by:
“completely cutting off oil and gas to Europe, wheat, minerals, etc. until the situation is resolved to Russia’s satisfaction.”
is that it would be the same kind of ‘bullying’ tactic that the Empire of Lies uses. If Empire sanctions are making other countries consider abandoning the US there is the danger that a similar Russian tactic would alienate their own allies.
Russia holds the ethical high ground. Let’s trust President Putin and Sergei Glazyev with how they are handling the economic pressures!
Qolotlh Kernow (in the UK!).
“Quoted from several sources, the United States Department of Defense has decided to activate the TACAMO system.
The TACAMO system is used in nuclear warfare and maintains communication between commands that make decisions about dispatching strategic and tactical nuclear strikes.
US Activate the TACAMO system. Is this a sign of nuclear war?
This indicates US preparations for a nuclear strike, or the development of such tasks.”
No
This is counter intuitive, but going on a higher state of alert INCREASES first strike stability.
If you want, with TACAMO on the US side is less afraid
The Russians did the same, by the way
That looks bad, but it is actually a good sign.
I will answer your rhetorical question about probabilities with another rhetorical statement: when Russia issued the “non-ultimatum” to America and NATO, I ordered a very good Russian radiation dosimeter online. I think there’s a slight probability that I won’t need it, but that was the point when I understood where this is going and that the odds of it not developing into a nuclear exchange are.. not great.
May I ask:
What model did you get
Where did you get it?
How much did you pay for it?
Thank you
RadiaScan 701A; had to get it from their Cyprus store because of payment issues on the Russian store; slightly under 400 EUR, if I remember correctly.
Thank you!!
Andrei
Check this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsTqWyxzro4&t=0s
I think the bright, white light in the sky will tell you all you need to know about radiation levels.
If extremely lucky. If not, all media will go out, and you’ll be surrounded by confused people who don’t know what’s going on. Also, you won’t know if milk contains Plutonium.
“confused people who don’t know what’s going on” – the British are like that all the time so it won’t make any difference.
The key for Russia is to clean up the “Special Ops” as they call it within 45 days or less. Should Russia be tied down in Ukraine for more than 90 days, NATO most likely may enter the conflict. The promotion of Joker around the West is laying the ground work for such an intervention.
My prediction – the current conflict will end with Ukraine divided in E. and W. Ukraine in addition to the new baby twins. Russia’s war with the West will then escalate in the Economic space till the destruction of the dollar is but a few weeks away. At that point, there will be a Nuclear war.
By the time, the world becomes aware of Nuclear war, several hundred million people will lay dead. This in my opinion is 3 to 10 years away.
A Whitehouse promise? Lavrov, “non agreement capable”, or, wafting smoke up someone’s butt, hurt butt all the same.
Full scale war, three days ago yes, today, after listening to Gonzalo, (not wishful thinking) just the scale of the smack down. He says, and we will find out from MOD at some point, 30 cruise missiles and no warning. I watched the vids from survivors, no sirens, no warning, just a swoosh sound then boom.
Oh, and fired from Russian air space, 3/4 hundred k away, they have those things on their subs, what’s NATO going to do? The US? Russia has NATO surrounded. Ze was begging Canada for a no fly zone, never even mentioned it in the US. No matter what one thinks on the political/media circus…….Russian and US militaries will not be engaging each other on the field.
Cheers M
must also give a nod to the hotel hit, big score there too, considering who had come to the front line for a little National Lampoon R&R….and no, I’m not smiling, it’s a leprechaun grin :))))
Those things are most likely Kalibr cruise missiles. Even more frightening for advasaries is they can be launched from small Russians ships like a corvette which is like a really small destroyer. They can be launched from these small ships in the Caspian Sea.
Russia first really demonstrated these in Syra against ISIS. They were launched from the Caspian Sea and were right on target. NATO and the Pentagon were pretty stunned.
I would guess that Russia had people on the ground close by before that hit on the NATO training base 20 miles from the Polish border. They probably knew that at night there may be no NATO troops but mercenaires.
Or launched from a shipping container, I gather. So could be on any cargo ship anywhere.
It was the Hotel Ukraina where the merenaries were staying. Kharkhov, IIRC. In Kiev February 2014, it was another Hotel Ukraina where the mercenaries and western media whores were staying when snipers shot and killed over 60 people – protestors and police alike – to get the color revolution going. That was proven by German ARD radio investigators. Hotel Ukraina in Kiev was (is still ?) owned by a right-winger. My question is whether Hotel Ukraina is a chain, and the same guy owns both hotels, or it’s just a coincidence.
Hi Andrei,
Financial times has leaked documents that Putin agreed on a “austrian neutrality model” for ukraine.
Russia would withdraw all their troops and suggest to restore all security setting to their original state before invasion!?
Is this really possible ?
Sources:
https://www.ft.com/content/7b341e46-d375-4817-be67-802b7fa77ef1
https://www.wionews.com/world/ukraine-war-significant-progress-made-on-15-point-peace-plan-report-462944
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Ukraine-war/Ukraine-war-Free-to-read/Ukraine-latest-Kremlin-says-neutral-Ukraine-like-Austria-may-be-acceptable
If the Ukie Austria is both denazified and demilitarized – yes.
Why not?
The problem with Austria-style neutrality is that it’s creeping towards non-neutrality. Traditional neutrals like Finland, Austria, and Switzerland all voted against Russia in the UN General Assembly rather than abstain. There have been other acts during this episode too by the traditionally neutrals that proved to be not very neutral. The U.S. simply can’t leave well enough alone when it comes to being able to flip someone. An Austrian-style ‘neutral’ leaves an open invitation for the U.S. to play games.
i agree with citymouse. Austria is pseudo neutral. Please keep in mind that Austria is EU member. How u can be neutral as EU member? Following the Austrian concept of neutrality Ukraine will become an EU member.
Ukraine would have an EU border with Russia. What is the difference between EU and Nato? EU is nonly the extended political arm of Nato.
Proof of Austrian Pseudo Neutrality was the NATO aggression against Serbia.
When Nato was carpet bombing Serbia in 1999 the neutral Austria opened their airspace for Nato fighter planes.
Moreover NATO military equipment has been transported from Austria to Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo.
This is the concept of Austrian neutrality. Lots of space for tactical maneuvers
Zelensky knows and for sure he can live with it.
You can forget the Austrian model in its current state. It is no longer a free country. There is nothing but scum in politics.
Greetings Solarteur
The articles are BS Ukraine is the one that proposed the model, it was turned down because Russia does not want to be in the same spot in 10, 15 or 20 years from now. The articles state the contrary
The end of the dollar as the dominant reserve currency used in international trade and central bank financial saving used in settlement of balance of payment.
Having the dominant reserve currency is a liability more than an asset, since the country with a dominant reserve currency has to provide enough savings for the rest of the world to settle international accounts.
This means that the country with the dominant reserve currency needs to run current account deficits, which the US does spectacularly, supposedly weakening the dollar by cheapening it and undermining its value as a “safe asset.”
The conventional thinking having the world’s dominant reserve currency is a “privilege” aka “exorbitant privilege.” This is as a good thing. But the conventional thinking also regards a large current account deficit as a bad thing, since it “devalues” the currency. This is also viewed as an aspect of “privilege” by forcing others to “pay” for extravagance since they need to settle in the reserve currency and therefore must hold it.
However, The reality is that the county with the dominant global currency does hold an advantage if it wishes to use it to deny use of the currency in settlement to countries it wants to pressure or exclude. But this results in damaging the status of the reserve currency as a safe asset for everyone that saves in it. Similarly, currency instability (inflation, devaluation) will under cut willingness to save in the currency.
Let’s look at saving (flow) and savings (stock)
In every monetary transaction, the party that settles for a financial instrument rather than a real good chooses to save in that instrument for however long. Think of selling a real good for a monetary token and putting it in one’s pocket. This is a flow into the pocket (deposit).
The total of those tokens in one’s pocket at any point of time is a stock called “savings.” Thus, trade is a flow that potentially results in accumulation of a stock to the degree that inflow (receipts) is not balanced by outflow (expenditure, “spending”).
Thus, the instrument for saving should be a stable store of value that can be relied upon in addition to a medium of exchange if one is accumulating a stock of savings. The USD has been considered to be such an instrument and the Fed, the US central bank, is the guarantor of stability, e.g., through inflation control and financial regulation and oversight of financial institutions. The real factors are the strength of the US economy (goods production) and the military (geopolitical power).
This assumes that the dominant reserve currency cannot be substituted by those subject to pressure. Events are showing that this may not be the case as workarounds appear.
The reality is that the Bretton Woods monetary system established after WWII making the USD the dominant world reserve currency for international settlement is long in the tooth. The original agreement specified that the USD would be convertible at the US central bank for gold at a fixed rate, then $35 per oz. The rate was subsequently changed, devaluing the dollar, and then abolished by President Nixon, thus establishing a floating rate system in 1971 that was formally adopted in 1973 and has held since.
They removed for Gold as a store of wealth and replaced it with US treasuries.
Now the modified Bretton Woods system is being questioned as the USD is being weaponized, which is calling into question its status as a safe asset for nations to save a positive trade balance. (The current situation has actually devolved to the point that privately held financial and real assets are being confiscated for political reasons.
While adopting a monetary system similar to that proposed by Keynes at Bretton Woods would limit the ability of the nation issuing the dominant reserve currency to weaponize it, this would not materially affect the operation of the global system of world trade, but rather would provide more independent unit of account using a basket of currencies and some real goods as the standard for an international unit of account. Keynes called the unit of account of his proposal “the bancor.” The IMF has developed a similar system based on SDRs.
The IMF has been working in his direction with SDRs but never to be trusted and China has been pushing for inclusion of the RMB in the basket of currencies. More countries are also settling in their own currencies, too.
So while a newly emerging monetary system is sort of a big deal in the historical picture of “money,” it is not that big a deal financially from the perspective of MMT. It’s just an institutional change that will have to be taken into account in describing international finance in terms of new monetary system. Having been developed by Keynes and partially implement by the IMF, it is not a stretch by any means.
While the financial implications with respect to the dollar may be exaggerated it it does have geopolitical implications — limiting the ability of the US to weaponize its currency. While this is a loss, so to speak, it is gain from the point of view of the US not have to fund international saving (flow) with its current account to provide for international savings (stock).
One hears the cry, then who will replace foreign buyers for US debt (Treasuries)? From the MMT pov, no problem. For example, it is not necessary for currency sovereigns to provide savings at interest when they are not defending their currencies as would be necessary under a fixed rate system.
For instance other countries could be required to hold bank reserves like other savers in the payments system instead of being paid a premium to save, which incentivize saving. This would likely reduce holding surpluses and would promote trade in real goods. There are other options in addition.
IE – Set the interest rate to zero permanently and just issue “granny bonds” to local citizens. Don’t even bother issuing any type of bond to business or foreigners.
Or
Countries could just use their “ways and means” accounts instead of issuing bonds.
And with adoption of a new monetary system institutionally, then countries would adapt their own systems to it and MMT would describe that as a starting point for analysis.
This is from November 1999 and describes the accounting and function changes that occurred as a result of Maastrict Treaty and with Bank of England independence.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199900/cmselect/cmtreasy/154/cor15402.htm
An explanation of how the Ways and Means account worked pre-1997. Before the neoliberal globalists hijacked the system via the Mastricht treaty.
(paragraph 37 onwards), the government simply spent according to direction from Parliament and this was expressed as money injected into the economy via the Bank of England. Then the Bank of England issued gilts (though always a liability of Treasury) solely with an eye on monetary conditions.
In cases where not all of the government spending was drained – because the monetary objectives didn’t require it – then Ways and Means account simply acted as a balancing item. The Ways and Means account was therefore basically analogous to an overdraft, an IOU of the Treasury. So even in this case, we have Treasury IOUs backing central bank money creation, but as explicit, overt, unequivocal money creation by government spending. And the only concern in this system is the monetary target, i.e. inflation. Everything else is subsumed into that. All completely consistent with the claims of MMT.
Post-1997 we have the system that we have now. The Treasury debt management office (DMO) is now responsible for cash management which means it has to clean up after itself by issuing gilts to neutralise its spending. This leaves the Bank to focus on regulating the economy only with respect to prevailing conditions rather than the additional complication of government cash flows.
So now when the BoE needs to add more money to the economy it cannot use any of the government’s direct spending (i.e. only drain part of it off) as before because the DMO has already drained it all. So now it has to buy back some of the gilts that the DMO sold. Again, we have net money added to the economy backed by a Treasury IOU, though this time it is a gilt rather than an entry in the Ways and Means account.
But apart from that, what else is really different? The only thing that stands out is that there are now two targets in the system:
(1) the Treasury’s balanced cash flow target;
(2) the Bank’s monetary target. In many cases the Bank will have to undo what the Treasury has done, instead of both simply acting together under one target as they did before.
The changes in 1997 really did just obfuscate the reality. It is much easier to reconcile the pre-1997 system with MMT, as it is clear to see
1. that the spending happens first following Parliamentary direction
2. that spending creates money via accounts being credited as the central bank
3. that the only concern ultimately is monetary conditions (inflation not budgets)
4. that gilts are a monetary instrument
Moving back to that system would be easy with no need to issue any debt at all.
You should quit with the MMT nonsense. It is chartalism in a fancy frock, and only works on paper not in reality.
As we have already seen, you cannot print your way into production.
Pete,
MMT – Never says ” you can print your way into production. ”
You should learn it before you criticise it.
What have you already seen ?
They don’t care for anyone’s lives – even theirs. It is an absolutely soul-less movement. If the whole planet blows out? It does not matter.
Such is the people in there. Only God can avoid the conflict. We, the people, shall unite in prayer.
And, then, testimony the miracle.
As far as information comes to me – but who am I to grant is is reliable? – it would be the lack of money, and/or the failure of fulfilling (paying) their contracts, which would make their suicidal movements to halt.
They will not dare going against Russia-China alliance with their end game threat. They’re bluffing. Though with psychopaths, you never know. They love mayhem, even if it costs them personally.
I think that ending the war asap is in everybody’s interest except the western war hawks. I would love to see an analysis how phase II will unfold… meaning the operation to shore up what’s left of Ukraine, and help the people on the ground to survive the immediate post-war period. Folks say the Russians did a good job in Chechnya. How was that accomplished? And is the same approach usable in Ukraine?
The Russians will pacify Ukraine after they have eliminated the Nazi scum and demilitarised the country. Most Ukrainians are on Russia’s side and know that they are brothers. 20 years of brainwashing have left their mark, of course, but when the fear and Nazi terror is over it will subside. I was in Kiev 15 years ago, no one spoke Ukrainian, only Russian.
Hello Saker, thanks for your valuable input.
Forgive me for my general ignorance of military affairs, but I want to ask you if you think that, maybe, the Russian operation of denazification of Ukraine could bo comparend to the 2nd Chechen war with the detakfirization of Chechnya, that is, an operation with a time schedule of months (instead of weeks or days).
Also, I would like to know your take on the current rate of operations of the Russian Air Force against the ukronazis MLRS (like the one that hit the russian arfield) and the artillery that shells the Donbass civilians.
Finally, It came to my atention in the comments of your take yesterday a commenter “Tarrasik”, a real piece of work that seems to have a deep admiration for Nazi Germany, maybe the moderators will took issue with this character (if you or them see it fit)
Have a most blessed day.
No, that operation is really different from any other.
That being said, it has elements of the 2nd Chechen war, for sure.
But just the scale is so different that we should not make too much if this
cheers
I dont quite understand what the US .mil end game is here. The politicians in DC seem to have a blood lust and death wish for the rest of us living here in america.
Is this an emperor’s no clothes situation where they are drinking their own PSYOP juice and strutting around naked, while thinking that any reports of their nakedness must surely be fake news?
The leaders in the west may bark, but when push comes to shove, they won’t bite. How often recently have Western leaders fought a war against an equal opponent? No matter what else you can say about them, they don’t like dying in a nuclear inferno.
Western leaders will just keep fighting in the economic and PR arenas. At some point they’ll declare victory (no matter what the facts on the ground say) and direct the attention of the public towards some other topic via their mind control box aka tv.
And even if this does lead to a Russia – NATO war, Westeners really don’t have a lot of motivation or stomach for fighting. As soon as governments start talking about drafting their citizens or as soon as war pain is actually felt, the Western public will be like “hey, this is uncomfortable. We actually don’t care about Ukraine, we were just virtue signaling.”
You have much to learn of Western dynamics. Behind the current Western leaders are an entire cadre much like those in power in Russia: competent, determined and effective. When the current leadership fails, it will produce a catastrophe that will ensure its own destruction and create a new reality. It will be replaced by this cadre who will then prosecute the new reality. And they will be of a very different character from the preceding leadership.
An exemplar. In the late 1930s the Western leadership class was correctly assessed by the Nazis as feckless, and accordingly were able to build German power. By 1939 that German power was able to overwhelm the established power of the West, which in turn led to the assumption of power by Churchill and his “gangsters.” Preserving the existing order was no longer the agenda: survival was. And what the Nazis perceieved as “gangersterism” was merely the fortitude of a leadership cadre that recognized what the new agenda was and what kind of actions it called for. In this case it called for an alliance with Russia – whom the previous leadership had tried to destroy by manipulating German power – and whom in any event would have been the victor of the war in all scenerios save Stalin’s surrender in its earliest days or a German atomic weapon in its latter ones.
The point I am making is don’t mistake the current leadership in the West as its best and brightest. It is not. It is merely a thin veneer, a predatory managerial class that history shows is disposable when its failures threaten the interests it is tasked with advancing.
With all due respect, I doubt very much that there is a strong, competent and efficient cadre behind the leadership in the west…I do live in one of this countries and I’ve been working in huge organizations private and public for many years…I can tell you for a fact, that starting with the upper management, middle management and finishing with lower ranked employees, the vast majority are ignorant, busy to suck up and sell their souls for a promotion…Nobody dares to speak their minds for politically correct reasons…I have witnessed many times situations when the upper mgmt sacrificed the interests of the organization just to virtue signal or to please the few yahoos that promoted the trend of the moment…Nobody questions anything, no matter how stupid or idiotic is the idea or initiative, so I doubt that there are such people behind the scenes…The indoctrination from the western schools wielded perfect results in brainwashing the cadre…That’s my 2 cents anyway…
It all depends on the opinions in the pentagon. They, so far, seem to be putting the brakes on actions that would obviously expand the conflict. IMO, the foreign policy group in the Biden admin is running something of a rogue op with CIA and not looping in DoD or the Fed. So that’s the wild card. I’ve never put internal odds on a military coup in the US before but there’s an outside chance if there is a rogue FP group in the WH/DoS.
The face saving the US won’t take is a division of Ukraine similar to 1919 with a demilitarized zone and international peacekeepers in the east. Also not sure Russia would take that at the moment but it would relieve the decision of whether or not to occupy Galicia. That could be left as a festering wound for the west to deal with.
If I’m Russia, I wouldn’t worry about rolling NATO back further in the short term. The Eastern European militaries have probably concluded that the west’s promises are empty. Near term economic conditions are likely to destabilize a bunch of European countries anyhow, and Poland is the big question but it’s the most likely destabilized now that there are 1M+ western Ukrainians in Poland and that’s not a situation that can end well.
Unfortunately, US leadership are incompetent ideologues and now they’re backed into a corner. Soon they’ll be desperate and then we’re into the realm of will the US military obey orders.
You cannot be a prestigious admiral if all your aircraft carriers are sunk.
Saker,
Thanks again for your awesome analysis. I do agree with you that the Empire of Lies has doubled down again and again. But this is not to help the Ukrainian people – but simply to boost the profits of War Inc. in the USA.
However, I do believe Russia has forced USA/Nato into some unfamiliar territory:
1) It is unwilling to commit troops to Ukraine.
2) It is unwilling to commit to a No Fly Zone over Ukraine.
3) It has said over and over again it does not want to fight Russia.
4) NATO is clearly split over even weapons shipments to Ukraine so the Empire of Lies’s actions cited above are simply the USA operating on its own outside of NATO.
A report today of a poll said that 62% of Americans are opposed to the USA taking military action if it risks nuclear conflict with Russia. The fact that 35% of those Americans polled said they would support military action regardless of the risks simply proves the extent of the corporate media brainwashing on a minority of {increasingly economic desperate) Americans.
The USA government is filled with people who try to bluff Moscow into thinking war is possible. However “the Biden” has stated over and over again that the USA position is No War.
Russia at this point is demonstrably winning and once it seizes the large cities of Kiev, Kharkov, and Mariupol as well as Odessa, the war will essentially be over and reduced to a mopping up operation.
The corporate media and Zelinsky can huff and puff but it can’t blow the Russian military and Russian conviction down.
A report today of a poll said that 62% of Americans are opposed to the USA taking military action if it risks nuclear conflict with Russia
Got a source for this please?
Notice that SHORT of the risk of nuclear war, the numbers would be very different
And since most US Americans don’t understand how vulnerable the USA is to a Russian attack…….
Saker – it was a Pew Research American Trends Panel. I’ve been lucky enough to participate in the panel since 2017.
Here’s the Pew Article:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/15/public-expresses-mixed-views-of-u-s-response-to-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/
J
The only value in this poll is as a measure of success or failure of the propaganda assault on the population,, otherwise it is completely meaningless.
Here is my question.
Do you believe that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is more; or is less; justified than the American invasions of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and the carpet bombing of Yugoslavia?
I challenge Pew to ask that.
@CitizenSmith,
Polls are only as good as the question being asked.
For example, if the question were “Would you be willing to risk war with Russia, if by doing so, it would mean you and everyone you know and love would be vaporized?,” it’s hard to imagine anyone saying yes (but I do believe there are suicidal bullies among the USA population, many who work in the USA government.
What if you asked the opposite – “Would you be willing to risk war with Russia, if by doing so, you and your family could continue to enjoy your lives without any detriment to your quality of life and free from any worry of retaliation, including nuclear war, on the USA?” This would be a most interesting question, because then you would isolate those who believe war is immoral no matter what the reason. Unfortunately, these folks are likely a small segment of the USA population, or the population of any country for that matter.
My support for Russia is qualified and is based on my belief that Russia was forced to act now to PREVENT nuclear war in the future. While this action by Russia is not a guarantee that nuclear war will not happen, it is a guarantee that once the action is completed, Ukraine will cease to be a cause for a potential nuclear war with NATO.
“And since most US Americans don’t understand how vulnerable the USA is to a Russian attack…….”
I absolutely agree, but do feel heartened that there are some signs that this is changing. I follow a channel “Canadian Prepper”, we can assume his content is based on what is going to sell prepping items, ofcourse. Lately he has gone into the situation in Ukraine and his initial viewpoint is adapting almost on a daily basis towards a more realistic view. Today he himself had a reality adjustment about the actual state of USA military and nuclear preparedness based on actual reports from specialist and some statistical info. From the comments on his video one can see kind of a percentage of those in denial and those beginning to see the light, which was actually kind of heartening.
Thank you Saker!
@Saker,
Thanks my friend. Here is the link:
https://www.rt.com/news/552095-americans-nuclear-war-ukraine/
Or 35% favor U.S. military action even if it risks nuclear conflict with Russia. This is a shockingly high percentage of Americans who would risk total annihilation by nuclear war and perhaps the end of all humanity or at the very least a return to the dark ages and a contaminated earth. Are they totally mad?
Either insane or they didn’t take the question seriously. Unfortunately, polls are subject to errors of this nature.
Dear Saker, thank you so much for all you do. One way to prevent this is if there are a sufficient number of NATO troops in the cauldrons that the West does not want to be discovered or dead. Alternatively, Russia could find absolute proof of misdeeds that the west absolutely does not want to be revealed (ranging from Biden / Clinton corruption to MH17 to Bioweapons labs). Then there could be a Minsk 3 with a negotiated outcome. It is also interesting that the MAGA people in the US have not adopted the MSM views, for example see “theconservativetreehouse” or “thegatewaypundit” or Tucker Carlson. They are still a force to be reckoned with and may have influence with key people in the Pentagon.
If the U.S. was ruled by a competent leadership class, it would immediately tell “The Coked-Up Comedian” to surrender. It would then push for Ukrainian neutrality like Switzerland and also tell Russia that it was going to support the disarmament of Ukraine. That would give Putin an “offramp” to prevent further escalation. Unfortunately, the U.S. is ruled by an incompetent elite who do not understand how to handle what is happening. I will pray and focus on what I can control.
agreed.
The leadership class is non-existent. The government – fully bought and paid for – consists of shills for various financial interests.
This was the real problem with Trump – he wasn’t part of that system. Thus RussiaGate and the rotating gallery of rabid neocons in various structural positions.
Trump was owned by Zionists. Sheldon Adelson put a pig-ring in his nose. Witness Trump’s declaring Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol, his recognition of Syria’s Golan heights as Israel’s territory, reneging on the JCPOA, the murder of Soleimani, etc. He was indeed part of the system.
“Unfortunately, the U.S. is ruled by an incompetent elite who do not understand how to handle what is happening.”
I would re-write this as — ‘Unfortunately, the U.S. is ruled by a corrupt criminal elite who understand very well how losing Ukraine will directly affect their money laundering and re-circulation scams.’
When I read “more $billions” to Ukraine (or anywhere) I interpret it as an inventory shifting scheme in the only economy the USA has at the moment (war machine) and basically a $dollar donation scam that does not actually give money to Ukraine. It rather circulates it to the ‘defence’ contractors and there after back into political donations etc. If any loans are made then the top-middle is skimmed off by the corrupt elites and only a trickle gets to the ground. But the loan repayment is immediately pinned to the state/people and not the criminals that have stolen the loot. Rinse and repeat. Nothing will chnage until the responbsibility for repayment is pinned to the those that actually got the money.
Don’t doubt for a moment the incompetent elite are all coked up too.
They are not an “incompetent Elite”, rather psychopaths entirely. The colors are showing brightly now that their concern is not about human lives, unfortunately.
They are still drugged up. Look at Pelosi and Heels Up Harris at the Rape of the Union address. I can’t even begin to imagine the cocktail of crystal meth and opioids it takes to get Biden going. He looks different all the time though as if he was created at Disney, a titanium frame coated in Spam and boar bristles.
Their pathology makes them incompetent but no less genocidal.
https://fivegunswest.blogspot.com/2022/03/little-lord-bidens-stfu-address.html
It seems to me that the whole concept of this war backfired for Russia.
This is unfortunate reality.
What happen with Russian national monetary reserves? Half of it confiscated (included gold). How that can be possible?
Mr. Putin unfortunately already in Syria have proven that hi is not a kind of leader Russia will need for Ukrainian exercise.
My solution would be to back off. Keep brake away provinces, enforce borders, regroup and wait for dollar to collapse.
You have not lived under live fire for 8 years, have you Martin? Buried family or friends? What price do you put on human lives? Russian lives? There is no price. Each life is priceless. Human life is not a commodity. It is a gift from God. And you worry about some fake mammon worshiping$$$$$…the president said, Demilitarized and Denazified…..Gods Will, be done. You think this is about money????
Cheers M
How did it backfire out of curiosity? Russia has not even been touched by the sanctions, the Ruble is now back down to 90 as of today (it was 80’s before the “war”). Russia is winning in Ukraine while suffering perfectly acceptable and moderate losses. What exactly is the “backfire”? I am genuinely curious to hear your take just to see how someone from the “other side” can rationally believe this. Maybe I’m missing something so please enlighten me what has backfired?
Nothing backfired on Russia simply because she had no other option.
And your solution, it is completely irrealistic.
Why is it so hard for so many people to understand that Russia had no option?!
It was not a ‘choice’ or an ‘option’.
It was a necessity.
What would it take for folks to get this basic, simple and fundamental reality?!?!?!
Japanese also had no option in 1941. Very similar story. They were trying diplomacy with US for years. Only after they had 6 months left of oil reserves for their army, they went to Pearl Harbor. We know how it ended.
Very good point!
Andrei
The only difference today is that Russia has nukes. But will it stop any side to action? I don’t think so. Chicken game. I’m afraid that Elon is too late with Mars colonization.
+kublaichan
Exactly. And the sad part is we have evidence and revisionist history books showing the American elite knowing the attack came and let it happen anyway. it is what they wanted, a war. How did a broken Japan help them if they could not enter the war? Where was the pretext? Force Japan to Kamakazi at Pearl harbor, move carriers from harms way and use the attack as pretext to enter the war so as to face off Germany and save the Brits once again.
Operation Barbarossa was Hitler’s existential choice to stay alive. Do what Napoleon couldn’t do. What Hitler and the nazis did not know was that the Russians took it as existential too and unprepared to deal with how they responded existentially.
The US of today is not the same as in 1941. The country is in massive debt, the rich has exercised what is virtually a tax boycott, the countries infrastructure is falling a part, the people are divided (they really hate each other thanks to the politicians turning them against one another) the political establishment is highly corrupt, old, and incompetent, the country gave away its manufacturing base, and its military is stretched in and due to multiple losses in the last 50 years is demoralized. The government cannot solve the simplest problems let alone big problems. Covid is proof of this as the country is about reach the 1 million death mark very soon. No other country is even close to such a death toll. This tells Russia, China, India, and everyone else, the true state that America is in. A finally in the 1940s we had leadership such as FDR, Eisenhower, now there are only corrupt political hacks like Biden and Trump who only care about enriching themselves and their donors.
The United States is ready for a fall and there will be no Hollywood ending or last second comeback. China can wait until this fall occurs, but Russia could not, because NATO is on its border, Ukraine was constantly antagonizing, provoking them, building ups its offensive military capabilities, and the West have been increasingly sanctioning Russia, most of the time for no good reason at all, for a decade.
Russia’s back was against the wall and it had no choice, but to do what it has done.
+Saker
Exactly. Zone A people much less know of the existential component behind the Russian “Choice” not “option”. For the West it is not existential and all they do are games, blustering, and disregard everyone and everything – until it dongs on them that it is but will be too late.
Hardly. The Russian monetary reserves are there. They have taken a hit but they will make it through. Syria, is a whole different ballgame. Disappointed as I have been by the restraint of the Russians, it is not that the capability isn’t there.
No option to backoff and why should they? The day has arrived my friend and Russia has the upper hand. Victory!
There is no confiscated physical gold, only unrealized “futures” contracts/obligations – which Russia can choose not to settle at all.
Russia has sezied $10 Billion worth of leased Airbus/Boing planes from the West, as a retaliatory step to Western sanctions, and, can seize much more Western assets located in Russia (McDonalds locations, businesses, property, etc.)
Lastly, Russia was, by design, put in a corner with no other option left. After 8 years of Russian-ethnic cleansing in East Ukraine, and, continued US/Nato support and training/funding of Nazi Urkanian regiments, it would have only gotten worse down the line. Russia patiently waited this entire time, while being on the receiving end for a long time and had to finally react. This is a reaction to an action.
Ukraine for the past 30+ years has been used by both Russians and the West to launder billions. Ukraine is either a laundromat or a cheap prostitute. Both figuratively and literally.
Today, Biden announced a $14 billion aid package. Same with Eurocrats. Ask this question, where is this aid going? To what entity will it be distributed to?
Basically, this is the last major tranche of $$$ being “cleaned”.
Vladimir Vladimorovich today announced that everything is moving according to plan and that ALL objectives will be met.
Stay tuned, the West will squirm louder and louder as their boy toy Z. will soon to be former president.
“Wait, did I read that correctly? Eight HUNDRED Stinger missiles sent to Nazis and Wahabis in the Ukraine and nobody in the entire EU has the brains to connect the dots and understand what that means for the EU?”
Saker, there is at leat one politician, François Asselineau, the founder of Union Populaire Républicaine of France, who’s been seeking to take France out of the Eu, the Euro AND Nato (not only the integrated command, as advocated by many others) for the last 15 years:
https://youtu.be/TXam05KKKH8. / https://www.upr.fr/actualite/ukraine-asselineau-sonne-lalarme-pour-la-paix-en-ukraine/
All the video is worth watching if you understand french, particularly between 2:00 and 2:50 where FAsselineau points out to the dangers of those weapons and missiles ending in terrorists hands eventually operating in France.
I know Asselineau, not well, but I do.
Yes, there are some voices in France.
But France needs to leave NATO asap if she doesn’t want to die with the Eurolemmings
and that does not seem happening
so it is all in vain
@ Saker
Then how (if at all)?
Thanks for the update.
It is a grim and menacing outlook, no doubt.
Have you lost all hope in the moral cowardice and selfish self-preservation of the Empire of Lies/Eurolemmings?
Despite the clear intentions of destroying Russia, my hope is they will try do it first by making a quagmire of Ukraine, and bogging down Russia in a war of attrition. Once Russia has been “weakened” according to their estimates, they will jump in for the kill like the coward hyenas they are.
I don’t think the West has the balls nor the military power to confront Russia at this juncture. Maybe five years down the road of R&D, once they have caught up with Russia. In the meantime, the thousands of weapons being sent might end up like other thousands being abandoned (Kherson warehouse), arming the new twins to the teeth.
Lone Wolf
Have you lost all hope in the moral cowardice and selfish self-preservation of the Empire of Lies/Eurolemmings?
Simply put: yes.
Lone Wolf, I have generally liked some of your posts but seriously? Germany first and foremost is gone. I know this personally. Do you not see the suicide they are committing against themselves and their people? Spain was holding years ago but long past, Greece, Italy, etc. This is a tragedy. Your hope is a war of attrition?… Wow. This is the problem. We are in this state of affairs because of thinking like this.
The U.S. elites are cowards, it has already been proven with Iran. They are only interested in enjoying all the money they have printed (paintings, jewelry, mansions, Etc, Etc). They keep stealing everything they can at a frantic pace, until everything collapses.I think they are looking for an island where to keep their treasure. The golden calf.
These elites are the ones who decide wars, so they will never enter into a confrontation with a much greater military power.
They know that Russia has first-strike nuclear decapitation capability. So they limit themselves to propaganda, which is the war of cowards.
I see Russia very confident, a colossus that is saving humanity.
Yesterday Slovenian prime minister together with Czech and Polish one visited Zelensky. They told us, they went to Kiew with a train. If this is true, they had certainly informed Russia on their itinerary. Othervise it would be a huge incident, three PMs wounded or dead. So they trust that Russia is a respectful country and a gentleman agreement can be achieved. So why a peace with Russia can’t be achieved? They put their life in the hands of mad mr. Putin as it is said here. Very strange. Sincerely i don’t believe, they were in Kiew, but if they were, Russians must have been informed about it.
… or may be they just visited Ze in the US Embassy in Warsaw … which is undoubtedly safer !
Or most probably in Lvov. I like clear numbers and logical thinking. This information campaign in the west can sell anything. Let’s say, they went to Kiew. We hear all the time, Ukraine is completely destroyed. But the trains are running? And at normal speed? They crossed the border near Lvov in the morning about 8 and arrived in the evening. Kiew is encircled. But not for the trains? Civilian buildings are massively hit on purpose, but not the infrastructure? We remember Novi Sad and all three bridges there. So the most logical conclusion is that Russians were informed about the visit and asked to be kind with them. Interestingly nobody asks these questions. For half of the people Janša is brave, for other half stupid. And almost all believe that he could be hit there and wounded or died. Supporters are happy with the trip, opponents are worried that killing of them could provoke war.
Our minister Janša is expecting elections in april. He has strong support of max. 25%. Year after year. And strong dislike of 75%. Our first prime minister once said: The hate to mr. Janša is so strong, that represent a threat to the state. Every four years we get a new potential prime minister anti Janša. This year’s candidate has no program yet and no known candidates for election but equal ratings with Janša. All he need to say is to be against Janša, this is the first, main and last point of their politics for the last 20 years. So this trip was made because of elections. He visited a person – Zelensky, who is a hero today for him. Three years ago Zelensky was all the worst for him and his media. He compared him to our former prime minister Šarec (another anti Janša candidate), who was also a comedian before politics, but was unable to lead his coalition.
The Russians have demonstrated that any incremental steps to enter the war by NATO, by some NATO members or by the US will be hit with cruise and ballistic missiles, including hypersonic.
So, where and how does this “inevitable” war get started?
Poland? they will lose their air force immediately.
Romania? hardly think they are that stupid.
The Baltic Midgets?
Then, any attack has to hit in Ukraine, in Russia, in Belarus and in Kaliningrad and Transnistria.
The Black Sea fleet has to be hit in Crimea/Sevastopol.
The East Med fleet at Tartus and Russian bases in Syria.
The Far East has to be hit.
The Arctic has to be hit.
There is no small war possible. It goes total immediately.
So, there will be no mass suicide by the West. They have no options for a small war. If they stay small, they get crushed like the foreigners in west Ukraine. If they go wide and deep, it is mass suicide.
@ Larchmonter445
So, there will be no mass suicide by the West. They have no options for a small war. If they stay small, they get crushed like the foreigners in west Ukraine. If they go wide and deep, it is mass suicide.
But there can be a war of attrition, as I suggested above. They will be following the “Afghan model” that worked for them against the Soviet Union. That is their next best, a prolonged low intensity conflict that takes advantage of Russia’s humanitarian concerns, and turns Ukraine into a carnage, all blamed in Russia.
Again, fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian…and all the useful idiots willing to die a “heroic” death next to nazi scum.
Lone Wolf
DPR + Chechens+SouthWind (PMCs, volunteer Syrian units) and FSB will wipe out any insurgency.
The disruptions to normal society and the breakup of Ukraine as a unitary state will make the sea the insurgency swims in unreliable. People will need food, pensions, jobs, and utilities, and the insurgency will be reduced to marauders not defenders.
There is only one terrain they can hide in, the far west mountainous area. And Poland, Hungary, Romania will saw off most of that. They won’t want a war in those areas.
It’s all fantasy by the West.
Agree totally with your analysis with regard to the prospects for war, viewed from a dispassionate and rational viewpoint.
This however may not accurately represent the problem. Who is in fact in control of US foreign policy? The Democrap cabal that pulls Biden’s strings? State? The Pentagon? The three-letters? The oligarchy? This is what keeps me awake at night.
I see a Russian strike anywhere along the supply line from Poland to the Line of Contact. And that line begins in Poland. And since the Poles were so eager to fight Russia – let them (try).
As for mass suicide, I think that the Eurolemmings have already stipulated to that.
As for the US Americans – they have no say anyway. And they are ruled by Neocons.
A mass suicide due to utter arrogance and stupidity is exactly how I see the future of Zone A.
What about the US submarines?
Are they not – very lethal indeed? Each one can carry huge numbers of missiles.
The thing is, the U.S. “government” is controlled by a cult of demon-possessed theistic Satanists. I believe they will do (or try to do) mass-murder/mass-suicide rather than graciously accept the defeat in their spiritual war against all humanity. As I understand it, this is what Bible prophecy predicts.
Good point! Romania at least is trying to stay clear of this conflict…they never offered any soviet made plains like Poland or made weapons commitments of any kind, despite Kamala visiting Bucharest a few days ago and pressuring the Romanians in God knows what…So at least, at the surface, they are playing smart…I think Poland is the country to watch, having been very aggressive in declarations and crazy initiatives…
And all the weapons seem to be delivered via Poland…
How can this War end is the question , yet how can it end when the EU , NATO and the Ziocons running the US keep sending weapons in order to escalate the War? The West want the Slavs to once again kill each other for the West’s Castle Class to benefit. The pretty boys and girls that live in these Castles , Austria , Switzerland , Luxemburg , Monaco, Geneva . I think you get the picture. Furthermore the reason why the types like Von der Leyden, Stoltenberg and Blinken tried to sucker in the Poles was you guessed it have another Slavic Country fighting against each other ; next would be Belarus no doubt. The massive influx of refugees from the Ukraine into Poland will create very expensive strains on her budget and that of other States near by. Czech and Slovakia of which are also Slavic will suffer this. Why not send the refugees to Austria and Switzerland . Another point i would like to add is the following .If the West and her puppet states think that its a grand idea to send massive supplies of Manpads and hand held ATM’s into The Ukraine in order to create another Afghanistan is crazy dangerous . Will the West be able to account for these weapons once the War ends? My estimate is that the Slavic Nations will have to find a way to Unite in order to end this War before it becomes Madness
Pre-emptive precision decapitation strikes?
NATO political leaders you mean? They are just talking heads and would simply be replaced by others. Political outcome studies by major US universities proved it is the billionaires who run America, not the politician (Stanford and Princeton, but others too).
Their conclusion was that the USA is a democracy in name only, but in practice it is a plutocratic oligarchy. That’s because in democracy it is the Demos, i.e., common class of citizen who are supposed have the power, i.e., Demos Kratis. The studies proved the Demos there has almost zero influence upon political outcomes. — yet, they have the cheek to accuse Russia of being an oligarchy.
As for a pre-emptive strike, that is the kind of talk that needs to be avoided on both sides. An action like that will lead to NATO vs Russia war.
sounds very military, but is very civilian.
means nothing other than total nuclear war
Sorry, but exaclty whom you despise and insult are the ones that have the key to solve the problem, together with Russia. The people of Europe are being gaslighted, they have been subjected to a brutal psy-ops… Ask yourself why.
The truth is that only we – in Europe – can achieve a lasting peace, but without the permanent bullying and colonization of US imperium. The people are not to blame but the corrupt European elites, the ones that choose to be US vassals.
The solution, the real solution is an all-european (from the Atlantic to the Urals) nations conference (without the Americans: it’s not their business) to establish the treaty that will garantee peace: no nuclear weapons in European soil; no use of force but diplomacy.
Accepting the right to security for all people and nations; accept the right to secede in a clear, transparent and democratic way. Respect the right of self-determination from any nation (each nation has the right to decide, by herself, her own institutions and government).
Dissolution of NATO, an obsolete structure, causing more harm than good, enables the permanent interference of external partners in European affairs.
An institution (like OSCE) for tracking any situation, but not a military alliance, should be built, so that any pending or future problems could be solved within this instance, by diplomacy.
Warm Accolade
MB (from Portugal)
So, if you have the key why don’t you use it for God sake. Don’t expect from Russia to save you ‘just one more time’. And don’t be afraid, freedom hurts much less than slavery, but also costs.
Russians and Serbs know very well the cost of freedom, but gosh IT’S SO GOOD TO BE THE HUMAN and not a lemming.
Love this!
Wholeheartedly agree, great sentiments and good reasoning. Basically the Hegemon is, predictably, the elephant in the china shop.
There are multiple causes fueling the current fires and also a historical dimension since the US’s inheritance of the British Empire’s penchant for world dominance through the well-trodden route of dividing and conquering. English interference in continental affairs is at the heart of near all continent-wide conflicts and the current Hegemon is carrying the mantle and modus operandi to the whole world with NATO as the Trojan war horse, both real and symbolic, of that hegemonic policy. There is nothing new under the sun.
What you suggest is the decapitation of the Trojan horse but that is too late – the modern version of the classical equine has bolted and disgorged its contents into the seats of power in all European countries, especially since the dissolution of the USSR, even Russia proper was occupied for a while. I vividly remember commenting at the time that the Gorbachev’s “reforms” were the harbinger for a greater calamity for mankind because the USSR was the only restraint against the Hegemon’s designs.
Russia must not repeat the errors of the clique who betrayed it in the 1980’s. Can you imagine the gloating of the Hegemon’s mouthpieces trumpeting around the world that “Putin caved in under US pressure and resolve as the Soviets did in Afghanistan”, “the New World Order won another victory against the dictator Putin”, etc.?
Clearly, V V Putin has taken Russia across the Rubicon and is ready for the ultimate showdown with the Hegemon. He has shown to be very prudent, not an adventurist to carry the destiny of his nation into an uncertain cul-de-sac. I trust that there is a methodical plan to achieve the immediate objective of the Special Operation as a preliminary move to: (a) create a cordon sanitaire around Russia’s borders – on course; (b) decapitate the Trojan horse’s contents across Europe – NATO. In other words, the conflict now is not against Ukraine; Putin is going for the jugular, NATO itself, incrementally, or totally if necessary. This does not mean an all-out war against the European vassals but a combination of military and diplomatic moves to decouple Europe from the Hegemon. I also trust that some military tour de force will be displayed to convince the Euripean puppets once and for all – the last warning – that he (Mr Putin) is not bluffing. After that demonstration, the scurrilous rat-like puppets won’t have any hole left to hide and their vacuity left on display for all citizens of the subjugated countries to see.
I bet the chosen target is going to be in the UK or Germany, with pre-warning of course, for everyone to see that there are no defences when Mother Russia gets angry.
MANUEL,
That sounds good, but one question. If any European country, such as Germany would say to the US, “you must close down all your bases and remove all your troops”, what would happen. Would the US comply, and what would happen if they did not?
I don’t think that a complete West-US confrontation with Russia can be avoided, because this pushes the same people who pushed both world wars, but either way Russia saves humanity, after Armageddon there will be no more of this evil, it will be destroyed, in another again it is salvation from evil, Russia is opening up an alternative to a more ethical world. And in one death is life, and in the other you have to die to be resurrected, then without Armageddon there is a Revival with Russia. Certainly Russia is hope and salvation.
I am amazed by the people who write here that there will be a wonderful new world after Russia and the US have a nuclear exchange, with the US no longer a danger to the world… I just don’t get it, because that will be a massive exchange of those evil weapons. The world will be filled with radiation, burning cities, and a lengthy drop in world temperatures (Nuclear winter?) that will lead to famine and starvation. Billions will die.
I pray Russia will obtain the security it needs.
But we all are in great danger if the foolish West pushes the situation to a wider war. Zelensky seems to me to be working to deliberately escalate and inflame the situation in Ukraine, so much so I conclude that is his real job, why he was installed there, and the lives of the people of Ukraine mean nothing to him. Others are clearly pulling his strings.
How to avoid a nuclear and conventional conflict between a lunatic NATO and Russia (+China)?
I think Putin has been thinking about that for several years and I think his plan is a the ability to deliver devastation/decapitation with conventional arms alone.
Sink every western aircraft carrier. Destroy Diego Garcia. Excise all western presence in Middle Eastern countries who have objected to them. Blind every western surveillance satellite. EMP every significant military port/city (Washington, London, Okinawa, … etc.). All within a few days.
Agreed!
Russia has now the ability to considerably disarm the West by conventional means.
Once done, Western powers without navies and with considerable aircraft and airports losses would have to either consider capitulation or all-out nuclear conflict: they will cave in.
In case they wouldnt, Russia has shelters for all its big cities inhabitants (they would have been called into the very minute Russia strike the West) + multi-layered anti-aerial defenses able to shoot down (old US) ICBMs … I also suspect Russia has capability to degrade NATO nuclear submarines fleet to some extent.
Russia would emerge wounded but alive,
China unharmed and all powerful,
NATO country ashes (no shelters no air defense) gone with the wind or tsunamied by Poseidons.
Expect 3 days without sun, then 3 years without summer …
But due to the past decades of importing continental Africans and young jihadists from the middle east Europe will remain diverse and that is what truly matters. Get your priorities straight ;>)
Perhaps a full-blown military confrontation between the West and Russia can be avoided if the West *quickly* undergoes an economic collapse? The theory is that at that point people will be too busy figuring out their own life to worry about some faraway Russia, some governments will fall (revolution), and the other governments will be too busy avoiding the same fate. In short, maybe then no one will be able to project power. OTOH, it might increase the risk because at that point the West – at least the West’s elites – will have nothing more to lose so risking a Global Thermonuclear War might make sense to someone. And by “risking it” I mean “nuke a few Russian cities and dare them to strike back”. So if the Russians don’t strike back, the West’s elite says it wins and the people should follow it. Maybe I should take some meds or get therapy. xD
But I think at this point only two things have a chance to prevent a full-out war: either some intelligence emerges in the West and takes control, or the West collapses into an economic depression.
I had read that Pentagon officials convinced Trump not to militarily attack Iran. The Pentagon simply knew that that would not work and that the results would be horrible for the United States and its allies.
So it seems that there are some sensible, realistic people at high levels in the Pentagon.
Notwithstanding that, I also worry that there are factions (Neocons, Chickenhawks, etc.) in the United States attempting to start a NATO/Russia war. And I, also, worry that that such a war could escalate until it killed us all.
But if the Pentagon stopped the escalation against Iran – even though Trump apparently wanted to escalate, then I am hoping that they could stop an even worse escalation against Russia.
We can only hope.
Perhaps both sides are preparing for a major conventional escalation, though I don’t see why it would necessarily go nuclear unless one side is losing badly. A conventional war of attrition between two fairly equally-matched entities may end in a negotiated stalemate. Both sides have a vested interest in this: The Pentagon preferring to be a lavish luncheon club, and Moscow showing it can defind its ground against any adversary. Pure speculation, and tactical nukes may complicate the picture. Frankly though, there are reports the deconfliction hotline is currently quite active. And perhaps Putin would not have been making the bold statements he made today if he were being surprised by anything he is currently seeing.
Just some thoughts.
Do not see why it would go nuclear? Direct conflict between NATO and Russia is almost certain to go nuclear. War planners game out countless scenarios of war between the two. It usually goes nuclear very quickly and escalates to fully fledged nuclear war.
There are good reasons for this. First is there is no way to know if inbound missiles are nuclear armed or not, so they must presume they are and respond accordingly, i.e., use your military assets before they are destroyed in situ etc.
Secondly, in war it is necessary to quickly destroy the enemy’s greatest threats to yourself. With NATO vs Russia that is the nuclear weapons. That has always been planned to be undertaken using nuclear weapons to destroyed the nuclear bases and submarines etc, e.g., see late Cold War planning documents. That leads to so called launch on warning nuclear strikes, counter forces strikes, retaliation, and strategic strikes. Game over for humanity — at least in the northern hemisphere.
This is why people who understand NATO vs Russia war say it is WWIII. It is not just rhetoric
As an additional option…maybe Russia needs to show more assertiveness and prevent – through increased show of force, also at the western front – that it is dead serious.
Better to fight it out at that level now than to wait for the west to reach the conclusion that Russia is timid in its endeavor.
Dear Saker,
I have been thinking about this. I believe that NATO is dead. Those countries should at this stage be aware that they have no proper means to confront Russia, as their combined strengths are too small.
Again, no-one is listening to what Putin has stated, and that is ludicrous. The other thing to consider is that all the previous predictions prior to this event were wrong. Everybody believed that Russia would not do what she did, and now Biden is doubling down again!
I believe that Russia will go immediately for the head of the snake; its target will be the Pentagon, and that the US will be unable to defend itself. Ergo, that will be the end of NATO. How can the little and the big European countries expect the US to ‘protect’ them from Russia when it cannot protect itself.
I believe that it is now going to be a full-on fight.
Dear Sir,
“I believe that Russia will go immediately for the head of the snake; its target will be the Pentagon, and that the US will be unable to defend itself.”
I totally agree with you; NATO is not the problem, the US leadership is. I believe that Russia has the military and technical means to behead the snake. Anything less than that will be insufficient.
Nato is dead, because is too big and divided. The greatest enemy of Greece is another nato member Turkey. Half of the nato countries despise the other half. What are west Europeans thinking about Montenegro, Albania, Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey,…? They think they are lazy, criminals, beggars and on and on. What about Poland and Hungary? Not democratic, using west European tax money. Why Austria have a border control on her east and border? But not on the Italian border? You can cross free from Slovenia to Italy and than Austria but not directly without border control? This control has no other sense than political one. Criminals most certainly knows how to cross. But for Austrians everything south and east is bad and the government is protecting them. When they return home from sea vacations they have to wait for 10 km. They are not nato but meaning is the same. Why would someone protect and die for someone who don’t like.
Same is in Slovenia. Prior to this Ukrainians were known as truck drivers, strippers, cleaning ladies and such. There is a large van traffic between Italy and Romania and Ukraine through Slovenia. Most people think this are thiefs, traffickers and such. Vans are overloaded. Police should be more harsh with them (it allready is) say politicians including new admirers of Ukraine now. Such divided society like nato will not last in real crises. Friends don’t hate each other. Who will die for a cigarette smugglers? (like Montenegro)
When unstoppable meets immovable… West unstoppable for centuries-until now. East unmovable-from now. Both have their reasons how they became that way and why the cannot change. In climate like that many possibilities which had their likelihood only in theory and never in practice, suddenly become quite likely.
Cracks in the west are now visible from orbit and it is irrelevant if the Zone A is capable of seeing it or grasping it. They will adapt,die or rot in sewers of their own making. Roles have reversed. Zone B have centuries of experience with that, now is the time for Zone A to display their vitality, exceptionality, civilizational leadership, supremacy,… and all other BS.
We in Zone B waited for it. Now it is here. Freedom or death. Either is fine. That is why west cannot win.
ZOG has been saying for months they plan a very long war with a stay behind army. Bleed the Russians in a quagmire.
The solution is to quickly partition the place, and drive all the hostiles west of the line, into Banderastan.
stay behind army
Yeah yeah, that is typical NATO-speech. That concept was developed for western Europe, not the Ukraine.
We saw yesterday what Russia will do with any wannabe stay behinders, she will make them stay behind indeed, 6 ft down.
I am also afraid that this is out of control. The media work in the West has been so good that Ukrainians seems like the peaceful Hobbits and Russia the hordes of Mordor.
Such deshumanization of Russia and victimization is Ukraine made public opinion lost their minds.
They are pressuring their governments to do more, to do more, to send weapons, etc. 70% of the US public opinion wants to declare war on Russia.
The congress is running in order to looks the bravest. The mad president of Poland went to do his campaign in Kiev.
This does not look good, because the reality is that Russia cannot and will not stand back.
Ukrainians are fanatic out of control. I am Spanish, I have discuss with ucranians in social media and the started to wish me death.
If someone does not put calm and stop bringing the mediatic attention to the fanatics we will end in a nuclear war.
And what is worst is that the less crazy western country in this moment is the US (probably be use they initiate everything). Europe public opinion is out of control. The madness is absolute
Today Ukrainian army shelled a column of buses with refugees near Kharkov. Four people were killed, many injured severely. The column was heading toward Russian border. Ukrainian rulers are forbiding Ukrainian people to escape from war to Russia or Belarus.
Ist Zelensky in Kiew? Ist es möglich, vier Staatsmänner der EU „geheim“ in einem Sonderzug nach Kiew zu fahren? Oder ist es „feel good PSYOP“, um der Welt zu „beweisen“, Zelensky harre dort standhaft im Führerbunker aus?
Weiß jemand genaueres?
Yandex-Übersetzung:
Is Zelensky in Kiev? Is it possible to take four statesmen of the EU “secretly” to Kiev on a special train? Or is it “feel good PSYOP”, in order to “prove” to the world, Zelensky steadfastly endures there in the Führerbunker?
Does anyone know more details?
The Chancellery of the Prime Minister
Prime Ministers’ visit to Kyiv
Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki and Deputy Prime Minister, Chairman of the National Security and Defense Committee Jarosław Kaczyński together with Prime Minister of the Czech Republic Petr Fiala and Prime Minister of Slovenia Janez Janša are going to Kyiv today as representatives of the European Council to meet with President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky and Prime Minister of Ukraine Denis Shmyhal.
The visit is organized in consultation with the President of the European Council Charles Michel and the President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen. The purpose of the visit is to confirm the unequivocal support of the entire European Union for the sovereignty and independence of Ukraine. The aim of this visit is also to present a broad package of support for the Ukraine and Ukrainians.
International community has been informed about the visit by international organizations, i.a. the UN.
15.03.2022
https://www.gov.pl/web/primeminister/prime-ministers-visit-to-kyiv
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said on Tuesday that he was in Kiev … for talks with Volodymyr Zelensky. “… I am in Kiev together with Deputy Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski, prime ministers Petr Fiala [of the Czech Republic] and Janez Jansa [of Slovenia],” he wrote on Facebook. The ministers arrived in the Ukrainian capital by train. The four-way meeting was set to begin at 8 p.m. local time (18:00 GMT).
https://sputniknews.com/20220315/live-updates-ukrainian-forces-continue-to-shell-donbass-settlements—lpr-1093880918.html
The action had been planned for days, but the route was top secret: a delegation of three EU countries made its way through Ukraine by train. Now she has arrived in Kiev – the capital continues to be under fire. (translated)
https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-regierungschefs-von-polen-tschechien-und-slowenien-erreichen-kiew-a-e4cf2959-ce9d-4fcc-b209-fb02cdd11e09
“The Polish, Slovenian and Czech delegations safely returned from Kyiv to Poland,” Piotr Muller wrote on Twitter.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-czech-slovenian-pms-back-poland-after-kyiv-trip-says-spokesperson-2022-03-16/
Are those 3 clowns try convict out of control (drugged/alcoholic ?)Zelensky…to give up and sign peace treaty with Russians or he really wanna end up as commie/ socialist Chilean president Allende with machine gun in the hand in Sept. 1973…. ??????
This is fake -Czech aeronet.news west propaganda psyops
Es ist schwierig und riskant, einen Sonderzug durch ein Kriegsgebiet zu führen. Überall können Gleise beschädigt oder durch stecken gebliebene Züge blockiert sein. Und dann in eine Stadt (Kiew), deren Zugänge teils von Russen kontrolliert und teils Kampfgebiet sind. Und dazu „geheim“, ohne daß die Russen davon wissen, und mit vier hochrangigen Euro-Pudeln an Bord.
Scheint mir völlig unmöglich. Aber RT und Sputnik haben es unkommentiert berichtet. Als Fake hätte es eine neue Qualität. Vier echte Staatsmänner als Schauspieler in einer Posse mit einem Nazi-Komiker. Hemmungslos, oder desparat, jedenfalls surreal.
Yandex-Übersetzung:
It is difficult and risky to lead a special train through a war zone. Tracks can be damaged or blocked by stuck trains everywhere. And then to a city (Kiev), the entrances to which are partly controlled by Russians and partly combat zone. And to do this “in secret”, without the Russians knowing about it, and with four high-ranking euro poodles on board.
Seems to me completely impossible. But RT and Sputnik reported it without comment. As a fake, it would have a new quality. Four real statesmen as actors in a posse with a Nazi comedian. Uninhibited, or desparat, at least surreal.
Visited the comedian in US Embassy Warsaw …and back home in minutes…
This is the most bizarre stunt so far – true or not. If true it is crazy. If false, what’s the point?
When I first heard about it, I was in my car listening to local radio, MSM over-the-top hysterical “team coverage of the war in Ukraine” fake news in between traffic reports. The lady delivering the fake news mentioned how these three European leaders traveling to Kiev were reminiscent of the world leaders who gathered in London with Churchill during the height of the blitz. I could not recall reading that world leaders gathered with Churchill during the blitz and resolved to look it up later.
In any case, what the propagandists seem to be desperately and ham-fistedly trying to do is to recreate some of that inspirational Churchillian resolve from WWII in the population by propping up Zelensky as if he is a statesman and not a two-bit puppet actor on a string.
Since the beginning I hoped for a quick collapse of the Ukie army, Afghan army style, but clearly this hasn’t happened. Now, as time passes, the higher chances of full scale confrontation. I agree that the outlook is grim.
Only one question keep me a bit optimistic: cui prodest? I cannot believe that in the whole US nobody realizes that a nuclear war would be the end for themselves also. US achieved all they wanted, isolate the EU and drag Russia into Ukraine, with a certain cost (human and money), not impossible to sustain but for sure unpleasant. Now they must only decide what to do with Ukraine once that the larger cauldrons are cleared, the Kremlin should have thought (I hope) to an arrangement for Ukraine safe enough to avoid as much as possible a further enlargement of the conflict.
Italy cancels all military leaves and put army on stand-by – see more at http://space4peace.blogspot.com/2022/03/italy-preparing-to-join-ukraine-war.html
How to avoid NATO vs Russia war that would probably go nuclear? Get the SMO over and done with before the US mid term election campaigning really gets going. A lot of US rhetoric is for domestic consumption, e.g., “tough on Putin” etc. The US news cycle will find other things to obsess over, so tensions will abate.
I was there for the Hillary vs Trump election. The election is all they talk about on the news and it is vicious and really dishonest etc. It’s like the world does not exist outside their borders, because oversea news is hardly mention during their very long election seasons. The war in Ukraine will barely get a mention if the SMO is pretty much over. The US media has a very short attention span.
P.S. I was married to an American woman for a while. I have it in writing how her family accused me of ‘somehow working for Putin to get Trump elected’. Bizarre considering I grew up in England, do not speak Russian, and am a communist, not a conservative (same thing according to their so called horse shoe theory’. My family in NZ was so worried they bought a plane ticket home and demanded I get on it.
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Your ex-wife wasn’t American, she was a Jew living in America. Big difference
WTF? She was Italian, English and Polish ancestry. Not at all Jewish.
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There’s still room for racists in the foreign legion. They don’t pass out intelligence, but you can get most everything else.
What we all need now is to pray the Lord so He sent us sun screen SPF 2,500 – at least!
Concluding question of the Saker’s message.
“Since the Russian ultimatum late last year, all the Empire of Lies has done is double down, then double down again, then double up some more. Worse, it gave itself absolutely no room for negotiations by declaring that what it seeks is a total victory against Russia and “Putin” personally. Now consider this:
The clear and unambiguous goal of the Empire of Lies is to “cancel Russia”
Russia cannot take a single step backward, her back is to the proverbial wall
No matter what Russia does, the Empire of Lies will double down, over and over again
Russia has enough nuclear and conventional weapons to wipe out both the EU and the US
The leaders of the Empire of Lies chose to pretend like they don’t know that or, alternatively, that Russia will never dare strike militarily at NATO and/or the USA
To me, this seems to be headed towards a full-scale military confrontation (conventional and nuclear) between the Empire of Lies and Russia.
Can that be avoided?
You tell me, and if you think it can, please outline exactly *how* this outcome can be avoided.”
Andrei,
Let me congratulate you on your fine website &, most importantly, your excellent question.
And this is the question many citizens of our world are asking.
I will do my best to post an answer. Please excuse the hurried & chronologically weak structure of this reply.
1. We are already in World War III. It started on November 22, 1963. You recall that our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy, warned against the danger of war between the USA and Russia (then-the Soviet Union). Our competent President, himself having seen war, expressed the view that WW III must be avoided at all cost. Kennedy and Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, & our respective power elites, pulled back from the brink (the so-named “Cuban Missile Crisis.” Khrushchev and other Soviet leaders were invited to the US. They came, joked, (Khrushchev wished to see Disney Land). The danger of conflagration was not completely eliminated, but it diminished greatly.
Hollywood made some anti-war movies that portrayed Russians as, although not as good as Americans, but essentially like us, decent, funny, harmless, (just like Woody Allen).
But Camelot was not to last:
Kennedy wished for all the African colonies to be freed, (including South Africa). Someone needed to construct their nuclear weapons there. JF Kennedy, & the remnants of the American Republic were in the way. On November 22, 1963, they were removed.
Fast Forward: The War grew in intensity:
1. Just last year, Russian President Vladimir Putin pointed out that the Sanctions against Russia were “acts of war.” No more friendly Hollywood movies.
2. Zionist/Imperialist Efforts to conquer the Middle East and Iran were blocked by the Russian Rescue of Syria. Russian Airforce, Naval & Ground forces. – Russian Military forces were used to brilliant effect. “acts of war.”
3. After the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Russia was badly bullied, and robbed, and NATO expanded (the War, WW III was on). in Defense, Russia began to rebuild its economic and Military technologies at an accelerating pace. It brought forward new leaders. Some of these leaders were/are capable of Militarily Resisting the Western Imperialists.
4. The recovery of Kiev, and the surrounding areas, Crimea to Odessa, is the Lawful result of Russian revival. It is all Good! Everything good will come of this. Estonia, Latvia, & Lithuania – do I need a verb?
5. Europe is already showing signs of recovery, (also of their Sanity). Sweden no longer wishes to join NATO. God Bless the Russian Army!!! The Russians are headed to Berlin! [You heard it here, first]
A. The Russians cannot return even an inch of the Kievan Russ lands (lands of their birth). As with -Hotel California-, They can never leave.
My Conclusion:
World War III will end – gradually. It will not ascend to the level of Thermonuclear conflict. In America, we will Restore Our Republic (that is our duty to ourselves and Humanity).
It is all Good. It will end well!
Dr. Peter J. Antonsen – nom de guerre, Durruti
If the US is crazy enough to enter a fight with Russia, maybe it is better to then start a second front which directly threatens Israel (spiritual home of the globalist and $) say from Syria taking back the Golan and most likely Iranian involvement , PG blockade and hopefully the Chinese…etc.
This is how the world war may begin:
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said he would support a no-fly zone in Ukraine if Russian forces use chemical weapons on Ukrainian residents amid its ongoing invasion of the country, The Myrtle Beach Online reported.
“If (Putin) uses chemical weapons, it destroys the international regime around chemical weapons we’ve tried to build up since World War II,” Graham told an audience at a University of South Carolina (USC) law event on Monday. “If he goes down that road, it’s an even larger war crime.”
Graham also said if the U.S. doesn’t take action to “protect Ukrainians from a miserable death,” Putin along with other authoritarian leaders would destroy world order, according to the Myrtle Beach newspaper.
The best part here is that Russia has destroyed all her chemical weapons.
The USA did not.
QED.
If the White House doubles keeps doubling down, then sooner or later this conflict spreads to US soil. God help us aĺl.
agreed
Those who continuously double down eventually lose all their chips. There are no exceptions to this rule
They are that kind of dumb D3. It’s some kind of trait among doddering old bastards in the U$. Full of Audie Murphy movies and victories in the Pacific, costly though they were, against bottle washers and rice cookers and press gang coolies as the Japanese’s best units were in China. Same in Europe, fighting against old men and boys as the best German units were in Russia. Martyanov talks about Patton fighting the retards of the Third Reich and American Exceptionalism for the 21st century, as the American elite are always a century behind, starts right there, with the ‘genius’ of Patton. The asshole elites grew up watching these war movies. My generation was buried in a tsunami of BS movies like ‘The Longest Day’ and ‘The Guns of Blabber-On.
I forget the name of the book about those that want all your chips, which is most Americans. The whole thing, system, is gamed so that they get just a little more than you can afford so you never get ahead, you can never keep up with the Jonses. So many of us haven’t cared in so long. Hence, the opioids, the crime, the disdain, the disbelief. All systems, religious or otherwise, some say gods, die of disbelief.
It is true about the chips and losing them. It’s true there are no exceptions. It’s also true it doesn’t matter if they lose their chips. What is true is they have no justifiable reason to exist. Another Masonic con, all high falutin’ talk and BS inbred redneck follow through, incest and stupidity.
Aside from total destruction of the Ukraine as a state, a living space and a proxy-base for the western interests?
I see no other way to avoid the Third World War. Russia will never surrender.
The Russian military is vastly superior to USA military. The Chinese economy is vastly superior to USA economy. China and Russia are best friends. India refused to condemn Russia at the UN. That is huge. The only thing that USA can do is propagandize. But it doesn’t matter because what the Western public thinks, will not affect Russia’s course whatsoever.
Anton Gorbatow- I wish I can agree with you – but China and Russia are not best friends -they just tray to work together I think there will be all the time memory of Ussuri -dont you remember?
I wish all the best to russian nation!!
It CAN be avoided by the Russians getting off their asses and finishing off Ukraine, pronto! It’s nice that they have avoided unnecessary casualties so far, but playtime is over. Guess what? Continuing to draw this out, if it results in an even bigger conflict, will create far MORE civilian casualties than if Russia just takes the steps to put the kill shot to Ukraine.
I agree, the longer this mission is drawn out the more support it loses. I’m curious what the plan is for Kyiv.
https://www.rt.com/news/552095-americans-nuclear-war-ukraine/
More than a third of Americans want to commit suicide and kill billions of people in the process.
But according to MSM, only Putin is crazy one here.
I mean. Wow. At pace we will realy have nuclear war. :(
They must feel that their lives are meaningless. Many people are depressed and suicidal and that is the danger. COVID-19 (and mass hysteria related to it) was not helpful, too.
I think it’s more like they’re childish, coddled, living in a fantasy bubble, and don’t have the slightest notion of what they’re advocating for.
Russian T72 reactive armor taking hit after hit from western supplied rockets, still standing, no problem:
https://telewebgram.com/data/dynamic/1101806611/document/5301196352980522878.mp4
Video geolocated to center of Mariupol on western bank, means RF forces are penetrating deep into Mariupol
Turns out that was a DNR T-64BV and was actually destroyed after this video with even more strikes. Even so, was still impressive, it took over 7 or so ‘western made’ ATGM’s to stop it, and even then it was never fully destroyed (still reparable) but the crew simply fled
“To me, this seems to be headed towards a full-scale military confrontation (conventional and nuclear) between the Empire of Lies and Russia.
Can that be avoided?”
It is all very simple – the decision makers in the west are responsive to what they feel directly on their skin. As of yet, they have felt no fall out from their Russophobic fascism – but, very soon, the costs of all they are doing are going to begin to be felt. When the costs begin to be felt, when it begins to effect the political standing of those in power, that is when we can expect to begin to hear a different song from them. In fact, we simply need look to our good friend Zelensky, how has his performance evolved since the Russian special operation began? At first the guy was all Rambo, now he’s all diplomat, at first he was all NATO, now he is all neutral, etc. etc. Being a coke head, he is a good archetype for western politicians of the Macron, Trudeau variety – Biden of course is leaking brain out his ears, someone else is doing the thinking there, if thinking is what you can call it.
Whether this goes nuclear or not is not dependent on what can or can not be avoided, it is dependent on the dynamics of the entire process, the chain of causality so to speak, or to say it less pretentiously, what consequences western decision makers begin to feel before the proverbial s**t hits the proverbial fan.
Re: “To me, this seems to be headed towards a full-scale military confrontation (conventional and nuclear) between the Empire of Lies and Russia.
Can that be avoided?”
Maybe it can be avoided in the short term, if per Michael Hudson’s hope, if needed, there is a devils’ deconfliction agreement between the US/Russia to limit targeting to London and Brussels.. iow, feed the Beast a [smaller] loss and with resultant shock you buy some time. Forcefully demilitarize and denazify Europe and rip it from the AZE hypnosis – shutting down the propaganda (cut internet seabed cables, etc.. PRN). Wall off the World Island from the Sea Pirates. But other moves would have to be coordinated, such as a slower transition from the PetroDollar, which may be hateful to all, but result in less crazed striking out by Hegemon. Its main and last tool of survival is the debt-based reserve currency.. it has to be killed gently, like slow drip-feeding the euthanasia through an IV line.
Why London and Brussels?
You cannot leave the evil regime in Washington as the sole survivor.
I don’t know what “Biden” et al are thinking. They seem to be playing constantly to the cameras and trying to look and sound tough and competent as the big leaders of the “free world” perhaps hoping that the polls will go up for them and they can hold the House and Senate.
I do know that I immediately started getting fund raising e-mails from Democratic activist groups asking for bucks in the guise of “help the poor Ukies!” from the evil Putin. I quickly unsubscribed from them with nasty notes.
The gall to ask for money after being part of a Party that intentionally started a war. The utter crassness of it. And I don’t even think the polls are going up for them either.
I told my wife I don’t think that “Biden” can get out of this now. They will just keep escalating and escalating until something blows.
Most of the global population knows the US is nuts and lies all the time. Who the hell are they trying to convince?
A poll today shows that about 38% of the US public is now wiling to go to nukes over Ukraine. Maybe getting those number up is what they are trying to do before they act.
I do know that the Party corporate funding base is really pro war and raising big bucks.
It will only stop when Russia takes the whole of Ukraine, for Poland will not want a direct conflict with Russia, once Ukraine is taken, a heavy presence of Russian forces posted on the Western border of Ukraine, will deter Russia’s surrounding neighbours from getting any ideas.
As long as parts of Western Ukraine remains in the hands of the Ukrainian forces, Nato and Europe will supply them will all manner of weapons, taking the whole of Ukraine eliminates that.
Pushing back Nato in a similar fashion as they have pushed forward is in reality the only way to secure Russia’s borders, its not pretty and the West will denounce it, but its effective and allows for the safety of Russian citizens.
Do you think the US wouldn’t push back if Russian nukes were placed in Mexico or Canada on the USA borders, of course they would. Its time Russia stopped trying to seek Nato and European approval and did what’s best for its people and the region, Russia will always be the bad guy, never accept and always blamed.
maybe Biden thinks he can entice Russia to take R2P action against latest arms supplies within Poland to enact article 5….who is actually going to use them front line….what front line surely that is going to be dealt with more quickly.
Presumably more C47’s will arrive rather than by cargo ship .. .is the big stuff flyable or must be ship then train…is it coming from USA or just repostioned from EU..but onward delivery …convoy of Nato lorries and drivers to entice response even though they are beyond Nato borders,?? Probably not enough mercs to deliver those loads . Maybe Russia has to be send some warning shots .. blow a few bridges on roads and rail up to the border……???? Cut off Lviv….definitely neutralise severely all Ukr bases. Russia to go all out with remainder troops to the Dneiper? Is EU ready for perpetual grief….can Poland sustain the stress on its peoples forwarding all that freight ..presumably Nato military logistics will be stationed there organising storage and delivery and ensuring air defences are in top whack …readiness…with itchy fingers ?
oh boy ….
Cross border tunnels ought to be searched for as a smuggling option to NATO (the mole brigades?) using deep earth tomagraphy, HUMINT and other detection methods. Israel has become very good with this black art as tunnels are extensively used to smuggle Hamas infernal whatever, and operatives into Israel.
I really hope that the Russian military has every one of the scum bags responsible for what’s taking place targeted. Targeted so that there will be no escape for them if the big bombs begin to fall. If it’s all got to end, let it do so – for the first and only time – with the bastards who caused it all finally getting theirs.
Yes, avoidable. If Putin were going to nuke the West as a pure aggressor, he would have done so weeks ago. The only way Russia will nuke the West is if provoked to an existential degree. Yes, the West has shown it is oblivious to the impact of its war rhetoric — viz Joe Biden’s “war criminal” remark today. That is beyond the pale, and Russia will take it with a grain of salt for reasons we all know. Putin still has many cards to play before the nuke card. Some of them are pretty good. So, yeah, we could force him into it and not even realize what we did to force it until it’s too late.
Thank you Saker for all that you do and share.
On your question, the Western nations have already capitulated to the globalists (who have residences in many nations and are therefore tied to no nation). It has been posited that there is no desire for either the EU or the USA to survive this “Great Reset” intact. Nukes of any magnitude are questionable as that would negatively affect the desirable resources (especially in North America). So, my unfortunate conclusion is yes, global war but no to anything but tactical nuke use (of course, there can always be accidents).
In tune with the topic but looking at this from a different perspective and perch, Some thoughts and a question…
I am not alone in viewing this Ukraine “conflict” from the perspective of sovereign nation states And the globalist great reset agenda.
Interesting and encouraging is the Zone B gathering of India, China, and Russia (plus others). These three ancient cultures, though certainly individually unique, share (according to my research) a common root – Vedas (aka Veles). This has from ancient times influenced philosophy, science, and medicine within these three cultures.
It would seem from the perspective of a “westerner” wishing to better understand evolving dynamics that this present “joining”, based on what is mentioned above, is somewhat natural. The question is how much is founded in honor vs. convenience (temporary mutual benefit)?
Of note, presently, the only nation of the three with skin in the game is Russia. Russia is expending treasure and resources while the other two stand in “support”. So far, that support consists of political (anti-sanctions) and financial (trade outside of SWIFT and a pledge to construct an alternative international trade system backed by commodities) aspects. The point I am alluding to is that expenditures of treasure and resources dilutes strength (Western Nations are also experiencing this dilution). Sun Tzu – “If the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain.”, “When your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.”
Present day reflects far less of the commonly shared Vedic inspired culture as the materialism of the West has infiltrated each of these nations to varying degrees. Most concerning in this regard is China (The CCP and Chinese Oligarchs which also, like the West, has many brainwashed citizens). As India does not have a friendly recent history with China, it would seem plausible for her to join Russia should China turn on Russia. Of the three, Russia projects the High Moral Ground (or most intact Moral Compass) for anyone who cares to look closely. Of the three, China projects quite the opposite. In fact, China is the birthplace of the WEF NWO social systems the globalists wish to impose upon all of Earth. China’s motivations and end goals should at the very least be suspect. Should the many partied war in the making end with an Eastern power center (most likely), then how would that power block be structured? Would China be the Seat? After all, the globalists have been planning for China to at minimum be the future financial hub (ref: Armstrong Economics). Would China betray the globalists who have backed and nurtured her future with such careful planning and investment?
Any thoughts on the above would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, K
The Chinese social credit system is a myth that was never implemented (trialed, but not implemented). It was a tool to deter antisocial behaviour (eg. violence against public transport staff) and minor criminal offence (eg. swindling), not to control groupthink or consumption behaviour. It’s impossible to do so. Anyone who has spent a week in Beijing or Shanghai would have known how strong-willed they are.
The West ran with the concept and decided to impose it on their own while constantly peddling the same myth occurring in China to condition their own citizens (“we are bad but other people are worse”).
Chinese government’s obligations are to their own citizens only, and to a smaller extent, their trading partners. They have been betraying the globalists’ agenda, hence the constant smear campaigns by all MSM outlets all over the world in the last few years.
Correct. I saw a video where an interviewer went around asking Chinese people in China what they think about the “social credit system” and none of them even so much as “heard” of it, and barely had any clue what the interviewer was talking about. It’s a complete fake hoax from the west.
I would propose the Zhirinovsky solution.
If you google it, you will find what I mean.
He suggested some years ago, around the time of the Trump cruise missile circus in Syria.
A small island in the Atlantic ocean … and if they will not wake up, then the whole world is doomed ….
I’ll put in my 2 cents: I think the RF waited a it too long first off. However, they prepared and seem to have prepared well.
Russia must go forward and not retreat in any way. I agree.
The West will double down, triple down over and over ad nauseam. They are screwed and they know it unless they take reckless and catastrophic measures ie: Nukes. This is not going to go over with Europe the Middle East, Asia, No one except the Brits and the US/israel but Israel too will be affected.
The BIG threat I believe is the bio weapons. This is truly concerning.
I know Russia has taken exceptional care to protect civilians and infrastructure, primarily the main concern is the people. This is noble and heartfelt and I believe Russia truly cares and wants to awaken and save these folks. Just complete your goals. I sound callous I know, I’m not.
Use the big guns and get the job done. Sorry.
What about PR campaign? Can’t they drop fliers like they used to in the old days? Can’t they go on foreign media in Asia and the Middle East and state they want decency and normalcy. Can’t they state they have no interest in the filth the West is pushing? Bring people over to their side. I appreciate Russia has stated this before but perhaps they can really start a full campaign against Western degeneracy. Full blown blitz of Beauty, creativeness, food, health, etc. This is desirable to humans. It’s natural. Cancel the West.
That’s what I would do.
Get in and out as soon as possible. Shock the hell out of them. (Lvov was brilliant).
Beat them at their media campaigns and draw the sane against the West.
Okay, now everyone can dump on me.
I don’t understand why Russian troops are not using small, platoon level drone to avoid unpleasant ambushes.
who told you that they are not
They should even use civilian Chinese backpack mini drones like dji Mavic that can fly at 8-10km radius.
They have their own, specialized, drones with a much longer range than with Occusync.
There are several videos now which can lead to conclusion that usage of such equipment is not widespread enough. On the other side, It is hard to judge, fog of war is very real.
There’s confirmed usage of at least 4-5 different types of drones on the Russian side from Orlan-10, to Orion to Zala and others. But as the other poster said, it’s impossible to tell how widely and whether they’re being used “enough” or not. Just because you see an ambush doesn’t mean they’re not using drones. There are many circumstances where using drones is simply not viable. Many ambushes happen on supply convoys that are traveling FAST through areas and do not have the time to simply stop and secure an area with a drone because then they would never cover the hundreds of kilometers they have to travel. Ukraine is simply a vast country and unfortunately you can’t always inch your way forward at a snail’s pace and secure every square foot of forest and roadway with drones. Such a process is very tedious and slow going and can’t always be used. In areas where it’s conducive for that like city battles, we do see Russia is in fact using targeting/surveillance UAV’s widely. I have seen many videos of them. But when a convoy is traversing dozens or hundreds of miles of HIGHWAY, it’s simply impractical to secure that entire direction with such small drones.
Most likely, the PRC will increase tensions around Taiwan.
There is only sufficient neon for a few month’s production at TMSC and SamSung.
Look for those two to be strong armed into shifting production to mainland China, or no neon…
Look for the PRC to send the bulk of it’s fleet to sea east of Japan – Phillippines & into Indian Ocean…
Don’t forget…. there still is a very large Russian Naval Force in the Western Approaches… Could easily interdict shipping bound to the EU… Could impose a cordon sanitaire…
We live in interesting times…
INDY
I think nuclear war can be avoided if China takes a proactive role in ridding itself of the continual US provocations in the China Sea and sorts out the Taiwan issue etc. The US could possibly realise that it has bitten off more than it can chew as attention on two fronts would be overwhelming for the US elites tiny minds . The US would possibly retreat to lick its wounds whilst the dollar continues to collapse whilst it is doing so.Time would be on the Russian and Chinese side.
A second american civilwar is the wildcard. It could trigger all kinds of things, both escalating or deescalating.