by Dagmar Henn
There can be no doubt, western media are full of propaganda. The claims that are in the centre of this propaganda, are almost identical. They are:
1. The crash is the fault of the Militia.
2. The Militia obstructs the investigations
a. the Militia confines access to the site of the crash
b. the Militia does not confine enough access to the site.
c. they take away the bodies of the deceased too fast.
d. they do not take away the bodies fast enough.
With the German medias, it is not just the lower end of the newspapers that feels the need of using manipulative language.
The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) shows us convincing proof for this assertion. On the 21st. of July they published their article, “Fighting for Truth”, starting it with these words: “Specialists from the Netherlands inspect the victims of the airplane-crash in Eastern Ukrainia. People in the area don’t want to hear about any guilt on the part of the separatists. They rather believe in weird rumours and Russian television.”
Implicated assertions are one of the favourite tools of propaganda. The articles of the German news medias (and, unfortunately, not only news media texts), are full of them these days. In the introduction above, only the first sentence would pass the set of rules of journalistic scrutiny and integrity. With the second sentence the manipulative part starts: it is contrived to provoke distaste for the inhabitants of the area. In the third sentence, the implicit verdict is cast: Russian television is put on the same level as “weird rumours”, and both are set in opposition to the afore-mentioned “guilt of the separatists”.
They continue on this level. “The heavily armed rebels” that accompany the forensic team from the Netherlands, are furbished with “German shepherd dogs, machine-guns, anti-tank-weapons and sunglasses and tattoos on their upper arms” – clearly, these are dangerous people. Looking into the cooling-cars, into which the recovered dead bodies have been brought, as is customary in such disasters, reveals “in the darkness of the cars…black objects …shapeless carrier bags, thrown down upon the metal screen of the floor in an disorderly fashion, one next to the other, one above the other.” It would be superfluous to comment explicitly upon lack of respect for the dead. “Thrown down upon the metal screen of the floor in a disorderly fashion, one next to the other, one above the other” – what do you expect from heavily armed tattooed people!
Even commentaries that completely contradict this picture are integrated into the tale without any fuss. “Later the speaker of the team from the Netherlands, Pieter van Vliet, said that the storage conditions of the dead are “good”. He did not expatiate on this. The corpses are lying around in a disorderly fashion. But it seems here that what is important is the cooling, and the cooling works.”
Even this forensic specialist from the Netherlands is not immune from being, very casually, used as a liar or even – check for the very fine meanings between the lines here – a collaborator.
You can find this very same bias in all of the German printed medias, in a big way, from the very distinguished papers to the popular boulevard press, whether they pose as conservative, supposedly leftist or just plain cheap and crappy (Bild). The propagandistic agenda, which we find in almost all of the western media landscape these days, is packaged in dense clouds of sentiments, feelings and apprehensions, surrounded by subtle denunciations and has been launched in a very obvious emotional direction.
And today’s BILD newspaper stays in exactly that pattern: “The train is stationed inside the company terrain, behind high gates. Isolated in this way from the public, a dignified examination of the human remains is possible – very different from what the pro-Russian rebels are doing, in the middle of the fields on which the plane has crashed.”
Implicit accusations, a strong emotional contrast, every detail is loaded with emotional connotations.
“The screened-off area of the factory as a supportive dwelling” is contrasted with “the middle of the fields”, which suggests a helpless state of exposition, which, by adding a completely useless piece of “information”, “the pro-Russian rebels”, gains a clearly defined culprit – how could it be otherwise? The use of the unusual definition “pro-Russian rebels” has certainly been decided upon because of its sound, because multiple repetitions of the r sound evoke words and ideas behind them, such as “Russian” and menacing…
Just the normal tools of propaganda?
No, most European medias certainly touch on the very coherent motives of propaganda, but they don´t try to slip it into the readers´ minds. They certainly construct a picture of the enemy, with the manipulative use of information and statements which they distribute or suppress, but they do not load them to such an emotional degree and do not use every opportunity to denunciate. As mentioned before, the first example is from a very distinguished daily newspaper, which gives you the impression that the German press has worn out its democratic phase and ditched it like an old jacket.
But it is not only the media that use this old pattern. The German Foreign Minister Steinmeier, who is often seen as an intermediary voice (and, according to the magazine FOCUS, is currently eager to shed his image as Putin-sympathetic), in his statements about the crash of MH 17, follows the same patterns. In an interview with Bild am Sonntag he said (citing from the Tagesschau transscripts):
Steinmeier refrained from accusations or recriminations for the crash. In the end, there is really no big difference if “the shoot-down was done fully intentionally or was a terrible mistake”. Whoever uses “such weapons”, accepts “the possibility of a disaster”.
There is ample reason to be preoccupied that the “Russian” separatists, “even now, after this horrible disaster, will continue to thoroughly neglect the basic rules of our civilization”, Steinmeier said.1
This statement is rife for publication in handbooks of political propaganda. It is very important to realize, how far it is going and to discern the implicit signals and messages. Because the deeper meaning here is very different from what Cameron said, “if the separatists are guilty, Europe has to put its fist firmly down upon the table”. In the same way, Steinmeier’s negotiations in February contained the implicit message that Swoboda and the right sector should be allowed to come to power. It is very important not to be deceived by the fact that Steinmeier bears a label that means social democrat. He honours the basic ideas implied by that as much as does his comrade Sarrazin.2
To start with, Steinmeier builds himself a position of moral superiority, by “abstaining from laying blame” – something he is not really doing, after all, but by the time we notice that, he has already made his point. He paints himself as a prudent person. That increases the value of what he is about to say. Finally, he takes care that there is ample room to wiggle (after all, the facts are anything but clear!), by making the statement that “it does not matter if the shoot-down happened fully intentionally or was a terrible mistake.” It seems obvious that he knew how unstable and ambiguous the American claims really were…
Emotional manipulation starts with the use of the words “such weapons.” He leaves things unsaid, open to interpretations we carry sub-consciously with us, which everybody will fill with the pictures and projections that scare him most. It is to be supposed that only a few were thinking of anti-aircraft-units BUK M-1 – but rather something in the form of a mushroom (which was used to re-activate long-forgotten remnants of the cold war); an additional amplification of this sentiment came with his phrase of “the possibility of disaster.”3
The real message, however, comes in the last sentence. The “Russian separatists” (look here – not “pro-Russian”, they have now magically transformed into real blood-and-bone Russians!), “thoroughly neglect the basic rules of our civilization”; barbarians, in other words, savages, cannibals, Untermenschen…
Another phrase by Steinmeier in connection with the crash underscores this direction even more: “those who are responsible for this have forfeited any rights for concerns of their own in the name of human rights and humanity.”
No more rights for human treatment and behaviour towards them.
These are exactly the same kind of statements that we can hear from Kiev. Cameron’s statements are aggressive, but still completely in line with demands and insistence on sanctions. In comparison, even the hoarse outcries for “NATO-involvement” are more or less harmless. The version from Kiev is easy to discern, because of the open and unambiguous use of the key words. Steinmeier has produced a masterpiece of vicious propaganda, which puts the idea of the Untermensch in the head of the reader, without ever mentioning it himself. That, my friends, is the difference between a master and an apprentice!
The use of propaganda is so widespread and so dense, that these statements by Steinmeier in no way stand out as anything exceptional. After all, no German newspaper did have any problem with the announcement of Poroschenko, to kill hundreds separatists for every dead Ukrainian soldier. On the contrary, it was distributed with obvious contentment and approval. But Steinmeier does not promote sanctions here. This is propaganda for war, it outlines the type of war and it sanctifies any and all crimes of the Kiev junta, as far as Berlin is concerned.
He suggests “a way out of this” to the Russian government: to let go completely (and one-sidedly) of the two republics. “Moscow now has a chance, maybe its very last chance, to show that it is really and seriously interested in a solution.”
This is not diplomacy any more, this is an open threat. It seems to me that Putin must have outlawed the opium trade.
Notes:
1As the second translation, „thoroughly neglect…“ is better it should be used here as well.It comes close to the original pathos.
2A friend remarked noone outside Germany would know who Sarrazin is. Perhaps I should add a footnote?
3It´s the same quotation. And „outrage“ isn´t as open as disaster or catastrophe.
The “partners in leadership”(Bush in 1990) Germany and the US follow a similiar plan as Germany in 1918.
“Berlin achieved its first breakthrough in its Ukraine policy in 1918. Using Moscow’s weakness, in the aftermath of the October Revolution, the Ukrainian central parliament proclaimed its independence – and entered a treaty for its security with the German Reich on February 9, 1918. Subsequently, “calls for help” reached Berlin from Kiev asking for support against Moscow – and soon the German Reich could actually take over control of the feeble Ukraine. The German general Wilhelm Groener, who, as Chief of the General Staff of the Eichhorn/Kiev Army Group was the strong man in the Ukrainian capital from March 28 to October 26 1918, dispatched the message that though one would “continue upholding the fiction” that “the Ukrainian Rada was governing,” de facto, it was the German Reich “by means of our authority and power.”[5] Groener, at the time had sufficiently circumscribed Ukrainian “self-determination,” as merely a transfer from one hegemonic sphere to another. Even the character of the rule remained repressive. April 29, 1918, following social rebellions, the Germans put the large landowner Poavlo Skoropadski at the reins in Kiev, quasi as a proconsul. His brutal regime provoked strong protests from the poor peasants. According to one analysis of that period’s German East Policy, “formally speaking” the government was “a dictatorship, however, in the substance, (…) a German General Government.”[6]”
http://german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/58703
Steinmeier was the first FM that met with the nazi leader Tiahnybok (two days before the coup):
http://www.vorwaerts.de/scalableImageBlob/116020/data/steinmeier_in_kiew-data.jpg
Gorbachev has resurrected a monster in 1990. Germany even did not bother to hide its old ambitions. In the German war doctrine of 1992 the government openly announced: “Without Germany it is impossible to integrate the East European peoples.” The German FM Kinkel wrote in 1993: “achieve something whereby we have failed twice before”. In thier war against Yugoslavia they once again demonstrated what that means with thier Luftwaffe and German-backed death squads of the Ustashe.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=632_1323437313
ALL of the reference links lead to a Google A/c page requiring signing in.
The article rests on those links.
Could Dagmar Henn provide direct links that do not require signing up for an a/c please?
Western drivel
Void and trivial
In fact, I would have spouted belligerent, mendacious tripe too if I were part of the West’s propagandistic sewer — be it as a corporate media whore, politico, or two-bit “artist”. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you, especially not in the better-off echelons of society, right?
What’s really conspicous about these imbecilic “moral outrages” of Western imperialism is their very short life-span. Once the plots succeed, the noises cease instantly. It’s plain to see the scum don’t hold their domestic subjects in too high an esteem either.
The West got hijacked by the Zionist-Nazis, 100% of all printed media is under the boots of the enemy.
This is the reality and expecting any kind of voice of reason is simply unreasonable. Russia is alone in this matter. It can only survive by cultivating absolute self-reliance, beefing up its defense capability and keep building up the union of BRICS. Look at Iran, it has some of the most beautiful cities in the world with standards of living that are reasonably high and yet, apart from oil, it doesn’t have the resources of Russia. Somehow, Iran managed very nicely and I can tell you this from my personal experience.
The Zionists-Nazis will not go away peacefully, this is not how history works. They were preparing to fight Russia for many decades. Ever asked yourself a question why Hollywood never allowed any semblance of a positive image of Russia and Russians?!…The West always saw Russia only as a vast land with resources that they want to plunder, just like what they did during Yeltsin administration. Now, Russia has Putin and as long as the Anglo-Zionist media besmirching his reputation we know that he is doing the right thing. The fight is on, it will get uglier with every passing day and begging for peace will only encourage the enemy.
Dagmar Henn is correct. The German MSM has gone mad. I am living in Germany for 20 years and I have NEVER even remotely seen this kind of hostility toward any ethnicity. It’s not just about Putin, there is a persistent tone directed at Russians… bandits, drunk, barbarians, uncivilized, brainwashed, etc. I am seriously afraid now and if things keep developing at this pace it’s very possible that I will have to emigrate back to Russia.
Just today I read an article in “Der Spiegel” where the Russians say that sanctioning heads of Russian secret intelligence organizations could threaten security politics and that terrorists profit from most from such sanctions. “Der Spiegel” headline reads “Russia threatens to end anti-terror cooperation”.
As for the German people. The comments in the newspapers were hysterical in the first few days after the planecrash. Now it appears that the public deviates more and more from the propaganda line.
Fighter bombers attacking civilian targets in Eastern Ukraine, flying with Ukrainian Air Force markings, have been traced to air bases in Romania, Moldova and Azerbaijan, armed and some perhaps piloted by Poles and even Israelis.
Canadian journalist, Geoffrey West, working with online “plane spotting” groups has identified combat aircraft flying “packages” over Ukrainian air space as taking off from NATO and other facilities.
Read more here:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/26/372804/mystery-bombing-running-over-ukraine/
>It seems to me that Putin must have outlawed the opium trade.
Putin outlawed the US$. In fact he nuked it in 2006.
Now he is blowing up spot gold and the EUnuch cesspit € ponzi.
The west IMF scum needs ukie war loot to stay afloat and it ain’t coming.
We are probably headed to a WW3.And the end of the world with it.The level of hatred for Russia is worse than I’ve ever seen.But what is even worse,it’s because there is no fear of Russia.What many times stops fights between two Alpha Males is that they aren’t sure who would win.So won’t test it.But today NATO doesn’t fear Russia (or at least they make it appear to their public that way).Unless Putin stands up to them and stops this “our colleagues”and “our pardners”.We will stumble into war.They will cross one line too many.And Russia will react.Then they will react.And then there is no turning back.Russia must make it plain in dealings with the West.That there is a line they can’t cross ever.The perfect time would be in all these “calls” that the leaders seem to have with each other.Tell them then.This is the way it is,and will be.And actually ask them “do you want a nuclear war” and if not “back off the propaganda”.While I think the Ukie’s shot the plane down.I don’t care.If our side did,it was a mistaken identity case.An a horrible tragedy,caused by Kiev’s aggression in the East.But the important event is the war,and our side winning it.Any BS that takes away from that is bad.The Federalists need to tell the EU that the only guards going to be at the site, are Federalist guards or Russian troops.And any attempt of Dutch/Australian/or Martians to enter their territory without permission will be destroyed.It is insane to even consider allowing “Kiev friendly” Western troops behind our lines.To attack us from the rear,or at best work as spies for Kiev.From what I’ve read they aren’t even talking to the Federalists, but are getting permission from the Kiev Junta to deploy on Federalist territory.Why on earth have the Federalists not made the obvious plain to them before now.Do they want to wake up to NATO troops landing.And yes its wake-up to it.Because as we know the US likes night and morning attacks.
I think this can be interesting:
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1405540920.php
I think there is more than we can see: powers at war one against the other in the same country, fog of war. In EU the south countries want to join Russia (Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ciprus.. (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/europe-unveils-preliminary-sanctions-against-russia) this is the map from ZeroEdge: http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/07/20140724_russ_0.jpg
I don’t think NATO will win this game. If it try the cost of the blood will be very high, and they can’t affort it.
You have to demonize the Russians so, when you decimate and genocide them, no one cares.
If the average American ever knew the God-fearing Russian heart and mind, they would be soul mates.
Heartland America is still based on religion. But that has been steered into false patriotism and deep fear of Communism. The average American thinks Russia is Communist.
The American public is an ignorant mass, lazy at important study of issues and very quickly moved from topic to topic, divided and conquered by Mass Media and Tyrannical government.
If the truth of Russia could come through the filter of fear and hatred, this confrontation would not be possible. However, the Hegemon rules its own turf more ruthlessly than others can imagine. From cradle onward, the Cult of the Elite has every mind in its clutches. The goal is not just to teach some ideology (which it does), but it wants to keep minds from developing with knowledge and critical thinking powers. Basically, Americans are dumbed down from kindergarten onward. They don’t know their own history, their own principles, much less the truth of world history and current events.
This is how bogus leaders can be foisted on the voters, policies shoved down the people’s throats and dissenters are marginalized.
If the rest of the world expects some presently known political leader to arise and change things, forget it. The multi-billion dollar funding it takes to present a person for President assures that the Elites pick the leaders. The Senate is the same. Only in the ineffectual House and Governors’ elections is there some semblance of grassroots uprising. And then, within a few years, another cycle of elections, most of those leaders are compromised.
Global change will come from the dynamic of Putin and Xi, Russia and China. And therefore, the Hegemon will fight it to their death or its demise.
But the fight is to the death, no holds barred, no moral or ethical equivocation; it is death and the devil that the world faces in this war.
Ukraine is the opening battle. It will not be the final one, unless Russia capitulates and does not win its security.
CDN says:
Sierra Charriba said…
don’t think NATO will win this game. If it try the cost of the blood will be very high, and they can’t affort it.
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I think this looks through the wrong end of the telescope. It is better to think of the EU / USSA being poised on the edge of a depressive spiral following from the financial crises of 2008. The events of 2008 were never truly addressed. They were simply papered over by a range of central bank market interventions to keep the system afloat.
By some estimates the US has already re-entered recession. Apart from the UK, Europe does not look too healthy.
If you manage an economy on the verge of a deflationary depression then one possible solution is the creation of a conflict as a means of stimulating the economy. This is essentially similar to the way in which WWII pulled the western economies, especially the US, out of dire straits.
Most of the MSM are corporate entities and they are therefore aligned with the needs of the large firm and the 1%. It is the 1% that drive ad spend and consumption as the middle class evaporates.
War legitimates the security state and the associated repression of freedom, it provides a means to rally the population (we are good, they are bad and need to be defeated), suspends normal fiscal discipline, and acts to protect the interests of the 1%.
I wish I were wrong in this forecast but given the degree to which evidence based discussion is being abandoned in favour of atavistic attack, I am not optimistic about the future.
Meanwhile China isn’t making much noise but just sent a gentle reminder which didn’t go unnoticed by the US but which only elicited a very muted response (not bring too much attention to this I think ;-) )
China’s military conducted a successful land-based anti-missile test this week, following similar ones in 2010 and 2013
The bastards are gearing up for a hot war, no two ways about it. The Satanists in Washington have somehow managed to convince themselves their missile “defence” in Europe will protect them from the consequences of a nuclear first strike on Russia. We have seen this pattern repeated time and time again, with Iraq, with Libya, with Syria, it starts off with a hysterical demonization of these countries leaders, reducing the entire country to just one personality that the MSM presstitutes demonize with a vengeance. Saddam was likened to hitler, Ghaddafi was likened to hitler, president Assad was likened to hitler and now president Putin gets the priviledge. Are people really that shallow and thick not to be able to see through these very obvious schoolground shenanigans ? In no previous instance when the murderous and evil psychopaths in Washington have targeted a country and its leader in this fashion has it ever ended peacefully. They are now trying to condition the citizens of the west to accept an eventual “intervention” in Ukraine to put down the “terrorists”and “free” Ukraine. This was the reason why the bitch Germany has for a “leader” was crying crocodile tears when all this first kicked off and saying Russia would suffer “catastrophic” losses if it did not bend to the will of the US/EU axis of evil. She is up to her eyebrows in what is now happening in Ukraine make no mistake about that. I really fear for the future of mankind. We are all doomed if these Satanists are not stopped dead in their tracks.
Dagmar, thank you for your contribution.
Those of us who are not young anymore have a valuable perspective [maybe not you, perhaps you are young, so don’t take offence]. We can look back at another age and compare.
In the early 70s, because of the Cold War, I did not trust Swedish news. There were bias, but nothing like today in Cold War 2.0, so I may have been unfair.
I listened to shortway radio from several countries. Radio Berlin, Westdeutsche Rundfunk, Radio Moscow/Radio Moskva/Radio Mockba [English, Swedish], the BBC [English]. That was my safety valve. A rewarding experience. The national anthems of East Germany [DDR] and the USSR still ring in my ears and the news was easy to digest. Of course I remember Big Ben and the West German anthem. There was balance. It was up to me to access and evaluate the news instead of being passively fed. I know many Russians did the same.
Between 1979 and 1984, French Le Monde was my daily paper. At that time it was one of the best papers in the world. High class. When I opened it in the internet age, it was partly unreadable. I have stopped going there. Americans should know president Kennedy read Le Monde every morning and also one British and one German paper. So the times have changed. English has taken over and that does not help us understand each other better. On the contrary. I can’t imagine Bush or Obama reading three foreign papers at breakfast.
This age is different. My children do not have the same luxury as I had. To the small extent they speak foreign languages other than English [one speaks French] and to the extent they care about foreign news, they are fed the same things in many countries. International media has become one big multiheaded dragon speaking with the same voice. However, we have the net, if we care to investigate it. We have the net. Thank you for your contribution.
Fwd from Canucistan:
Speaking of Germany, let’s just ponder the implications, provocations, positions, ramifications and possibilities of this latest nugget of information. Surely hey are not so obvious but this is “economically” significant and far reaching.
Canada-EU free trade deal to be rejected by Germany, says report
Investor protection clauses at issue, according to Sueddeutsche Zeitung
Thomson Reuters Posted: Jul 26, 2014 9:25 AM ET Last Updated: Jul 26, 2014 9:25 AM ET
Germany is to reject a multibillion-dollar free trade deal between the European Union and Canada which is widely seen as a template for a bigger agreement with the United States, a leading German paper reported on Saturday.
Citing diplomats in Brussels, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported that Berlin objects to clauses outlining the legal protection offered to firms investing in the 28-member bloc. Critics say they could allow investors to stop or reverse laws.
The German government could not sign the agreement with Canada “as it has been negotiated now,” the paper reported, quoting German diplomats in Brussels.
It also said that the clauses in the Canada deal were similar to those in the U.S. agreement, which is still under negotiation.
“The free trade treaty with Canada is a test for the agreement with the United States,” said one senior official at the Commission in Brussels, according to the paper.
If the deal with Canada is rejected “then the one with the United States is also dead”, added the official.
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Continue reading and be sure to check out how the “public” feels in the comments as it will give some insight into how “We the People” truly feel about the NeoCon ideology and the Harper Regime. This scrubs away the “fog of war” being propagated. It is also noteworthy that Argentina seems to be going forward with plans to “default” on its debt. Odd timing to say the least, eh?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/canada-eu-free-trade-deal-to-be-rejected-by-germany-says-report-1.2718981
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james@wpc: here are your links
http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/flug-mh-17/flugzeug-katastrophe-ostukraine-malaysia-airlines-abgeschossen-36939838.bild.html
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/flugzeugabschuss-im-osten-der-ukraine-kampf-um-die-wahrheit-13057287.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/ukraine-mh17-102.html
BTW, I can´t remember an acting minister uttering something alike about a matter that falls into his responsibility. Twenty years ago there would have been a public outcry and he would have been kicked out of office. No reaction now, none at all..
Kind regards
dagmar
“Mr. Steinmeier” is an asset of Israel.
вот так
@Larchmonter445,
Thank you ever so much for your truthful, concise and to the point post.
One of the best posts I’ve read in years !
God bless.
The corporate media takes a backseat to no one in disseminating and shaping narratives to support predetermined policy. It is perhaps the greatest propaganda organ ever in history and is capable of stampeding public opinion to accepting or believing anything, at least in the short term. The truth eventually dribbles out, usually after policy goals had been achieved or new “facts on the ground” have diverted the story. About seven corporations own the media in the West, and their corporate boards are fully integrated with the political establishment.
The unnamed senior administration official who spoke to Ron Susskind in 2004 expressed their worldview:
“The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
It used to be the Soviet Union was the exemplar of propaganda. We always believed the press here in the USA was free, and Radio Moscow, for example, was full of lies. How times have changed! Or, maybe we have grown older and wiser.
There is a comprehensive media environment, where messages are spread worldwide, tailored to each group, or now, to each individual.
We no longer talk with one another having the same basis of facts.
Facts seem to have gone away, and they are pushing war. What happens if the next plane shot down is a non Ukrainian war plane? How will they explain it? Just curious.
@james@wpc:
Sorry, my third attempt to answer your question… I seem to be too stupid to post a simple comment.
Here are your links:
http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/flug-mh-17/flugzeug-katastrophe-ostukraine-malaysia-airlines-abgeschossen-36939838.bild.html
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/flugzeugabschuss-im-osten-der-ukraine-kampf-um-die-wahrheit-13057287.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/ukraine-mh17-102.html
BTW, I can´t remember an acting minister saying something like that about a matter he is responsible for. Twenty years ago there would have been an outcry and he would have lost his position. Noone even comments about it today…
(And I´m fifty already and still remember the last minister that had been a member of the Nazi-Party in Bavaria in 1981)
greetings,
dagmar
Dagmar –
Thank you for your essay. While it might be taken simply as criticism against Steinmeier, in fact it is a clear, positive analysis of the techniques, rhetorical and imaginative, used by Steinmeier to deceive. A well written piece of propaganda will leave ideas embedded in the subconscious. Essays like yours are helpful to inoculate these idea-viruses, and bootstrap thinking. Og say thinking good.
of course, as anon 16:22 points out thinking is in short supply these days. Saker, have you considered that your blog would be more effective if you changed the format to reality tv?
cheers
-jms
Steinmeier is a ugly piece of filth. his words sicken me as a German, because he pretends to speak in my name, too. He doesn’t.
When your opponent is emotional – rejoice.
Remember to track the emotional intensity and dispersion graphs.
@Larchmonter445
Not much with which to disagree except for the scope and duration of the threat to civilized life.
In the US there has been a build up for at least 100 years, one can use the creation of the Fed as a convenient starting point. It’s creation made possible the armament of Europe to put in motion WW part 2 and 2. The USSR was a creation by NY and European banksters and most likely would not have survived without continuous support for its’ 70 year run.
Jackson=Vannick was an indication that its’ rulers had lost too much ground and its demise wasn’t too far off. Then ground was regained with Jeltsin for a breif span. Now with Putin things appear to have changed and Russian may be taking her rightful place on the world stage.
The formation of Isreal was hotly contested internally as there was a (rightful) concern that it might bring too much attention to the specter of the multi-millenial global cabal. We shall see, perhaps this create enough awareness to bring Satan out of the shadows.
Too many things for me to list succintly. I guess my main point is that the ‘protivnik’ is well armed with patience.
For those of you who understand Christianity, though you may not understand the language. Share the joy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZHkIt5XPo
Thank you for the links, Dagmar. I realise if I had been thinking and not ‘asleep at the wheel’ I could have saved you some work. The linked articles are in German, of course, and I’d take your word over a machine translation especially having seen Steinmeier in action before.
I think it is a very worthwhile effort to unpack the propaganda and I endorse jms’s comments above. Thank you.
Dear Saker
Does this ‘frack map’ correlate to an area that it would be desirable to destroy homes, infrastructure, lives – and drive a mass exodus of refugees from, rather than payouts to land and home owners?
And ‘Shell’ there be a Royal Dutch coincidence in a plane that departed Schipol airport (‘Mossy’ territory with same security company connections as those of 09/11) falling out the sky over required ‘fracklands’ …. and another coincidence that Dutch wanting to do the wreck forensic ‘analysis’?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/company-which-joe-bidens-son-director-prepares-drill-shale-gas-east-ukraine
And if this is true, I hope E.Ukrainians will shut it down … and the Pollyanna in me screams for a class suit to be brought against Shell-Exon and the oligarchs for destruction of homes and a refugee exodus for GAS!!!
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/ukrainian-army-helps-installing-shale-gas-production-equipment-near-slavyansk