Jun 26, 2016 The meaning of Brexit – the bigger picture. UK voters have rejected the EU and, importantly, they have rejected the political status quo. Today, sovereignty and national interest trump elite-driven internationalism.
CrossTalking with Alex Christoforou, Mark Sleboda, and Patrick Henningsen.
Well,tonight all the guests just poured cold water on all our hopes for Brexit.
Yeah, kinda.
But the Brits are not the Greeks.
For starters, they speak english.
That *may* be a plus in the media wars.
And it may make them savvier to the messages sent by the USA, NATO, etc.
Maybe.
And the UK is a much bigger country.
Fingers crossed.
I wonder whether some of the snakes lurking under stones are being flushed into the open by the vote and the response. That the machinations of players such as Obama, NATO will become glaringly obvious because now delivered as blunt threats instead of vague expressions of exceptionalistic values (e.g., “freedom”).
Katherine
No one is quite getting Brexit. The reason it happened was
1). English working class people have been royally shafted for 30 years. Can’t get a job and if they do, it won’t cover living expenses. In the wake of the sub-prime bail out the UK and EU govs liberalised labor laws allowing for mass importation of slave labor. Jobs that I worked 28 years ago for £16.50/ hour nights as a student factory box stacker now pay £8.50 bofore tax, even after 65% deflation in sterling purchasing power and 100% increase in living costs. Poles etc have passports removed by Lithuanian gangmasters and sleep 14/room on wall to wall mattresses and hot swap out when the night shift comes in. Towns near me are now 2/3 E. European in the space of 10 years. Everyone was a loser to this comoditisation of peoples.
2) obama, during his visit, dropped a bomb shell in the ‘remain’ camp stating quite clearly that if the UK left the EU, Britain would be ‘back of the queue’ for a trade deal with the US. It was all over the papers. TTIP is a very hot topic for politically aware people. In one sentence he made sure a large number of labour voters voted ‘leave’. It was in the top 3 reasons people I spoke to gave for leaving, here in the highest ‘leave’ vote of the country. Most know that Europe’s TTIP with the USA will kill the belovd NHS. It has been all over the papers for months. I do not believe this was a badly planned speech, and I doubt very much if Obammys team handed it over to Englishmen for approval.
Isn’t it clear by now, following the USA’s take-down of S. America, S. and west Africa, destruction of the Middle east and N Africa, encirclement of Russia and China, and breach of every international law and post war treaty, that the USA has no friends bar Israel. What makes anyone think that Europe too is not a target? This vote will result in further dismemberment of Europe and, specifically, dismantling of the Euro. One must ask oneself whether this was an unforeseen accident and who is set to gain. Soros did not bet against Sterling this time: he is betting against Europe.
All flows from this: The USA is bust, but can remain so and even expand its indebtedness so long as it can force the world to turn up at its debt auctions, trade in the dollar and close off and open countries it likes by denying or allowing access to their currency and banking system. Removal of the Euro re-cements this otherwise failing position by removing a major competitor.
Consequences: Let us say that the Euro falls over the next 5 years. There remains one final hurdle to ensure that the US remains debt-issuer-in-chief for a loooong time: the Russia-China alliance. Remove the Euro and that next phase moves a whole lot closer. This is not politics any longer, nor has been since about 1990 and the Iraq invasion. This is a fight to the death.
The most important thing Brits can do now is keep hold of Corbyn who is actively anti-NATO. The only unforseen kick in the balls for the US is Corbyn stays and a movement lifts up against NATO.
good points. The question being will heightened awareness from the general population halt or substantially thwart the agenda? The English part of me had a brief moment of celebration. But the real people will have to face years of procrastination, Article 50. Elections. MSM. 24 hour news of harassment of minority. Special UE concessions. Etc. Has it started with the Labour attempt to side line Corbin , just before the report on the Iraq war which he may well criticize.
@ Badger
Corbyn has pledged, not just to criticise, but to pursue war crimes indictments against Blair, Straw et al once the Chilcot report is finally published next week, after 6 years of procrastination and delay.
No wonder the Blairites are trying to force him out before that happens.
Would like to see Corbyn call another leadership contest . If he does I will go and join the labour party -never dreamed of it before – and help vote him back in, if we can, for this very reason. I want to see the blairites in both parties humiliated and ejected. The great majority are both entirely out of touch with he consequences of their experiments and ideology.