Dear friends,
Just a few days after I posted a report about the French Resistance to the Empire, a really sad news came out of France: Alain Soral, the leader of the movement “Equality and Reconciliation” (E&R) was involved in a disgusting and, frankly, pathetic scandal mixing race, ideology and sex. The story just broke in the French media, the parties disagree on a number of things and Soral is threatening to sue, but between the reports published by the Zionist press in France (JssNews; Elfassiscoopblog) and what was published by the official E&R site, there are a few more or less established facts: for a while Alain Soral had a, quote, “virtual affair”, unquote, with an African model called Binti. This “virtual affair” involved sending each other nude “selife” photos. Then things went south, they began insulting each other by text messages. Soral’s insults included racial ones. Now, the photos and the insults have become public. Frankly, I don’t feel any inclinations to describe or analyze this psycho-sexual sewer, but those of you interested in the ugly details just need to click on the links above.
Soral is now threatening several lawsuits and he promises to release a video where he explains it all. Maybe. But unless he tells us that the photos and text messages are all fake, there is nothing he can tell me which would make me change the conclusion to which I have already come: Soral has serious sexual problems.
This is hardly surprising, to be honest. Soral has always said that he was a “dragueur” which in modern politically-correct French refers to somebody who likes to pick up girls. In plain English this simply means that Soral was sexually promiscuous. The poor man even wrote a book about that. Apparently Soral married a lady named “Maylis Bourdenx” (or “Maylis Bonnet”) in 1996. Whatever may be the case, married or nor, Soral is yet another example of the fact that the West is, truly, the most sexually dysfunctional society on the planet and that western hetero-sex is every bit as dysfunctional as its homo-sex.
The number of people involved in some kind of sexual scandals simply blows my mind. From Anthony Weiner to Bill Clinton to the innumerable Latin priests in involved in high profile sex scandals, it seems that this phenomenon is just an integral part of our daily lives. Because it is, of course.
First, let’s get one basic myth out of the way. Sexual promiscuity is not a sign of success” but a sign of frustration. Why do I say so? Simple! Think about it yourself: would you change cars or houses or jobs or places of residence if you were happy where you are? Of course not. Folks who constantly have different sexual partners are just seeking to attain a satisfaction which inevitably eludes them. If they had a truly sexually satisfying partner – why would they ever bother looking for more?!
This is why sexual promiscuity is to sex what alcoholism is to wine: not an enjoyment of, or appreciation for, but an addiction which, as any other addiction, is fueled by internal emptiness. Roger Water perfectly described this feeling in his song “Empty Spaces”:
Where waves of hunger roar?
Shall we set out across this sea of faces
In search of more and more applause?
Shall we buy a new guitar?
Shall we drive a more powerful car?
Shall we work straight through the night?
Shall we get into fights,
Leave the lights on,
Drop bombs,
Do tours of the East,
Contract diseases,
Bury bones,
Break up homes,
Send flowers by phone,
Take to drink,
Go to shrinks,
Give up meat,
Rarely sleep,
Keep people as pets,
Train dogs,
Raise rats,
Fill the attic with cash,
Bury treasure,
Store up leisure,
But never relax at all
With our backs to the Wall?
To be honest, I feel sorry for Soral. I know that he had a terrible childhood and that his youth was spent with the most degenerate social groups possible. And I cannot blame him for his “empty spaces” and his desire to fill them with something, even if this something is as pathetic and sterile as a “virtual relationship” via phone and text messages. But where Soral is a total idiot is that he should have know that this kind of “lifestyle” would blow up in his face. Did he really think that he could send picture of him nude to a young and poor African immigrant before they would end up in hands ready to pay top dollar for it? The scary thing is that Soral is very far from being stupid, and that tells you how compulsive and totally out of control his sexual frustrations are.
He reminds me of Scott Ritter, another clearly very intelligent man, who also was caught in acts of such an extreme stupidity as to appear completely impossible. And yet that solid and highly principled Marine specialized in, of all things, intelligence (!) was caught exposing his genitals via webcam to a police officer impersonating a 15 year old child. Again, besides being a clear sign of sexual frustration and pathology, how utterly stupid is that?
The very first rule for anybody involved in any public affairs nowadays is to live a squeaky clean live, especially in sex related matters. The second rule should be, and if you really cannot engage in “normal” (i.e. socially approved) sex, then don’t do that anywhere near any electronic device. Soral and Ritter both knew that. And yet they did it. Does that really tell us anything about them? Are we better? Stronger? Smarter? Healthier?
I don’t think so.
Soral and Ritter are not “perverts” – that explanation is just too easy and really it explains nothing. I submit a very different explanation: like all of us, Soral and Ritter have a specific human nature which is highly susceptible to its social environment and when that environment fosters dysfunction most humans will end up displaying pathological and compulsive behavior. Being an Orthodox Christian, I also believe that our current human nature is a “fallen” one, and that our real/original human nature was lost as a result of Adam’s sin and that, in turn, tells me that asceticism and resulting self-control are not “luxuries for monastics”, but a vital necessity for every single human being. But even if we set asides religious arguments, I think that there is absolutely overwhelming evidence of the fact that most, the vast majority really, of people in the West are sexually frustrated and miserable. Our “modern” and “progressive” society has completely failed to yield its promise of sexual satisfaction. Oh sure, it does serve us cheap and readily available “fast sex” just as it serves us “fast food”, but just as fast food is garbage for our bodies, fast sex is garbage to our bodies, minds and souls.
Look at Soral’s body: the guy is 56 years old, yet he is “healthy as an ox” as the Russian expression goes, clearly in a fantastic shape. But psychologically decades of “fast sex” have made him “psychologically morbidly obese”. If anything, the Soral fiasco proves, yet again, that in a health-obsessed society we ignore the needs of our mind and soul only at great peril to ourselves.
What will happen next?
In theory the sexual problems of Alain Soral say nothing about his views or about the Resistance to Empire he embodies today. That is in theory. In reality, this is a massive political faceplant which Soral’s enemies will use and exploit to the maximum. After all, for them it is much more fun to focus on Soral’s sexual problems than to focus on his ideas. Sure, his hardcore supporters will probably forgive him for letting his frustration endanger the future of the Resistance to Empire in France, and it’s not like Francois Hollande or Nicholas Sarkozy are any less sexually dysfunctional.
The one issue which nobody will look into is why is it that men who apparently have it all are clearly so out of whack sexually? Feminists will tell us that men think with their genitals and not their brains, progressives will condemn a repressive moral order, conservatives will deplore the lack of “Christian morals” and nobody will ever dare ask whether a satisfying and fulfilling sexual life is possible and, if yes, in what circumstances?
In conclusion, and just for the record, I want to say this. I have been accused by some of being “anti-gay” for my clearly stated belief that homosexuality is a personality disorder, a psycho-sexual pathology. I hope that the above will convince everybody that I make no inherent difference between modern homo-sex and hetero-sex: to me their are all equally pathological and contrary to our human nature. When I look in the world I live I conclude that the Church is correct in saying that there is only one form of sex which is “right”: sex in the context of a heterosexual marriage of adults. This form of sex does not guarantee sexual satisfaction, but at least it makes it possible. Sexual promiscuity – whether hetero or homo – makes it impossible not because some bishops decided that, but because they correctly identified the needs and characteristics of our human nature.
By the way, in Greek the word “sin” (ἁμαρτία) means “missing the target” or a “failure to reach the goal”. Sin is not pissing off some morally rigid god sitting on a cloud who spends his time monitoring our sexual lives. “Sin” is simply not realizing our true nature and our true potential. Sin is inducing misery in ourselves, whether we realize it or not. Sin is ignoring our nature and mistreating ourselves.
Hi Saker ! Wow, I guess you just posted this.
Very good and honest, but I hated that video…the singers would have been ok but those two flowers were awful…had to turn it off….
Flowers are sexual but their genitals are facing the sun..the Holy Sun…and they don’t behave that way…it was untrue.
Anyway, beyond that…
I have learned from Rudolf Steiner that the human being is made up of visible parts, and invisible parts of our being. This he calls, physical body, and the invisible life body…and believe it or not, the physical is one gender and the etheric, or life body is the other gender. So when a person is attracted to the same sex, that is the life body dominating.
In the case of Bradley Manning…the torture that he went through was all implemented by men…he hadn’t seen a woman for years probably…not a decent woman…
I know that he was already gay…a typical mixed up kid…but the sex change was when he stopped coping with his physical existence, and the life body took over.
To get even more complex…every time we reincarnate, we become what our life body was in the past life…we alternate…so people who “become” the other sex in the same life are getting two lives, one in the present and the future mixed up and unwholesomely entwined.
Also, I would like to mention something else…
Gore Vidal, the wonderful author of among other titles, the book “Julian” about the Emperor of Rome in the 4th century who tried to save all the Greek temples from the wanton destruction of the new “Christians” … anyway, Gore Vidal was homosexual and married to another man. I read an interview with him about his relationship with his partner…he talked about love.
Now love between two men, is something holy, something good and Gore said that the sex disappeared quite quickly in his marriage and they really just loved one another.
I thought that was very great.
Perhaps that’s the way love works. It redeems all things.
One other little thing about Gore Vidal…he was Jacqueline Onassis’s half brother. Same father. JFK was his brother-in-law.
So that’s my theory, my understanding of human homo-sexuality, in a few words.
And I don’t disagree with anything you said.
Thanks.
Last sentence here looks correct, as we also see now last 24 hours Hagel out as US DefSec, to be replaced by a 100% rabid war dog.
Flourney & Carter 2 names seen as contenders.
this is why.
pootin better wake up.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article186040.html
For the United States, the freezing of the Arab world would allow it to direct its military power against Russia and China.
Another OT..this oil price thing…its so weird…Ukraine is going to be cold all winter, but the OPEC countries are cutting production because of the price…you’d think somehow something could be worked out for Ukrainians this winter…
What a crazy mixed up world…especially the west…I agree with you totally.
Oh, and by the way, now that I have the top comment position…I’m going to be sending you a donation tonight…and I’m just reminding everyone else, who might have thought that a month has not passed yet, since Saker’s plea…its been a month.
Hi Saker,
What a wonderful post on Alain Soral’s foibles and other thoughts related thereto. You summed up how you see his dysfunction with so much human understanding, so much tolerance – yes tolerance -, and so deep an understanding of how man is naturally supposed to live and act. Crises may come and go (and I hope they go rather than come) but these kind of posts and discussions hold eternal value and appeal – even when people disagree with each other.
Regards.
Saker, there is another, more sinister dimension to the confluence of politics and various socially unsanctioned behaviors. Orwell wrote about it in “1984”, although one has to read between the lines to understand him.
Just about everyone who is allowed to “serve” in a significant office, public or corporate, has committed some transgression that, if it were to be made known, would end their career. If a candidate for such an office is clean, then he will be encouraged to do something that could be used to compromise him later, if necessary. It is required, because that is how control is maintained.
On a lighter note, if ours were a society of bonobos instead of people, promiscuity would not be a controlling issue.
I agree with the essence of the article, with some corollaries. The way I see it, in America, promiscuity is a kind of status symbol. Evident, for example, in the so called tabloids. I am reminded of this every time I reach the counter at the grocery supermarket. A parade of different front pages prompt me to learn the sex habits of this or that, as if I could care. But clearly someone, or rather some-many, do or the tabloid business would collapse rather than flourish. Not to speak of TV, which I quote for hearsay, as I have long ceased watching it. And so we witness the continual glorification of the un-glorifiable. As for the ‘Christian minority’ referred to, it is not fair to generalize, but some portentous scandals have arisen from the bosom of these so-called churches.
I have some good friends whom I know to be gay, but we never talk about the issue. I feel uneasy and uncomfortable about the public display of effusion among same-sex couples – let alone in movies (as I hear).
Encouraging homosexuality suggests a plan to subvert society at its roots. Promoting promiscuity works like this, if some famous people are promiscuous and become even more famous for it, then why not me? I may not be famous but at least I am promiscuous. It seems (by chance or design) one more plan to imbecilise the already mostly unthinking masses?
“If they had a truly sexually satisfying partner – why would they ever bother looking for more?!”
Maybe because togetherness is about more than sex?
please don’t fall into alcoves the alcoves reportages easyness, and again Soral ain’t a personnality that counts in french politics
I respectfully disagree.
These acts are not about frustraction, it is about control, about having power over someone else. About believing because you have a certain social status you are deserving of certain privileges.
And it is also a kink. I think people often misunderstand this term. Some people get pleasure out of doing things that are not normal, that are wrong.
I think if we simplify what this man has done, we excuse the behaviour.
Hi,
There is a very interesting political movement in France, UPR, that is much more meaningful and critical than E R. , led by a man called François Asselineau, undoubtedly one of the most challenging politician in France today.
You can find all about it at upr.fr
Enjoy !
This is why I’m here: geo-politics, religion and history, they go together. How wrong to leave the spiritual aspect out of the mix. Agreement is not necessary, nor expected which is why your blog is a hit. How refreshing to hear someone speak their mind. Thank you so much.
Do you remember Dominique Strauss-Kahn ? It’s all about to corrupt minds with filth and perversion and to use bribery, threats and blackmail to get its way. This is like the ‘ Empire ‘ works.
The little I know of Russia is mostly from watching the people of Crimea & E Ukraine. They remind me –strongly–of America in the 50s. Small town America had only begun to slip from the high point of our civilization in the 20s or 30s, and we were not yet aware of it. The educational system had suffered its first attack so that history & geography had become the empty subject called “social studies,” but only history teachers saw the danger of that.
Some of the characteristics that I see in Russians now that we had then: a romantic outlook on life: one imagined that one’s life & actions were important and there was serious self-examination. Right & wrong mattered. It was important that you were kind to others and absolutely outrageous to see unkindness. The fearless outrage with which unarmed Donbass citizenry greeted the first tanks. At the polls they stood shouting at kalishnikov-toting men come to steal the ballots. Even when one was shot dead they didn’t run away. We would have done that in the 50s, but I think not now.
Eccentricity and uniqueness are still preserved: for us then it was that television hadn’t yet homogenized us; we hadn’t seen our most important moments made banal. Somehow the Russians still preserve this. It gives them a kind of innocence.
Men protect women. In the small towns even into the 60s chivalry was at such a peak that teenage boys took the responsibility to see that things didn’t go too far; young men and boys protected girls in that way, too. Among the Russians I saw repeated instances of the protection of women which comes from the affirmation and full acceptance of the responsibility of being a man. It’s an odd thing to say, but it seems that only men who embrace the full role of manhood can form really close friendships among themselves. And I saw evidence of such friendships.
America in the 50s was a different world. It suffered a psychotic break in the 60s– the result of the anti-war movement being degraded w drugs, promiscuity and the worship of “lifestyle” as freedom. The Pill and the youth culture together made what had been nearly sacred and beyond price merely fallen. The coming of age of television has gradually destroyed what was left: the remnants of the culture of the
50s was not passed on. You can have an examined culture and a responsible polity or you can have huge numbers watching TV 20 hours a week. You can’t have both. I firmly believe that none of this (and much more) was accidental. It was as if someone removed exactly those things that human beings require to become fully human in a functional society.
Tolerance became an over-praised characteristic. If everyone else’s beliefs are as good as your own then your own are optional, worthless to define who you are and nothing is worth dying for– or committing to.
Sorry– just a few random thoughts late at night.
[from Blue]
The problems are not religious, but the breakdown lack of, or lack of adherence to a coherent social, ethical, and positive system of philosophical, cultural, and ‘spiritual’ system — regardless of the narrative or doctrine it is expressed through.
Any religion can be a force for good or evil, despite the protests of those who argue that this or that is not the ‘true religion’. The basis of morality lies under the narratives and doctrines, and it can be expressed in terms, of Christianity, Buddhism, Secular Humanism, Judaism, Islam, Jainism, or whatever.
The problem in the US, and the west, is a breakdown of social values and function, largely due to a shift towards capitalism in which the only values is making more profits, and accumulating more power, and justifying the hubris of exceptionalism, and imperialism or neo-colonialism.
It doesn’t help to cast these problems solely in religious terms, especially in terms only of one’s own religious belief system; that just tends to mystify and obscure what has happened, and even provide further justification for war, greed, and further perversion and destruction.
One may speak in a religious language, but it needs to be translated into the language of other religions, and ultimately in the underlying normative values which promotes, rather than obstructs, a functioning and happy society, and healthy psychological and spiritual existence.
The US was just as destructive of peace, justice and world harmony in it’s early years when it was very ‘Christian’ in pursuing genocide and conquest.
_Blue
Dear Saker,
“You reap what you sow”. As an occasional French reader of your blog I was very perplexed by your naive admiration of that bum, whom many people have known FOR YEARS to be an imbecile, a fraud AND a sexual pervert – as Soral was not one to spare his (very limited) readership any details about his sordid little self.
As a result, Soral has been an Internet laughing stock for years and a lot of people are probably quite amused at this hour.
As the title “French Resistance leader” is apparently not ironic, just so you are aware, for any authentic French patriot, bestowing it to a sinister clown like Soral, who has nothing in common with the heroes of the historical Resistance, and every character trait in common with the historical collaborators, can feel pretty insulting.
It would still be ok if Soral was just a pathetic clown, but he has associated himself with the scum of the political world both on the left and the right, including the Front National, the party which, as you may or may not know, advised the Ukrainian “freedom party” Svoboda in 2010 on a change of image, so they would purge their discourse from antisemitic references. So here’s who your “resistance leader” associates himself with. Just so you know, he is also pro-muslim in a violent way, and answers critics of his pro-muslim stance not with reason, but with threats that their mothers, wives and sisters will be raped and submitted when Soral’s “revolution” has had its way.
So there’s your hero in a nutshell.
The Emperor’s New Gruber: Obama says Americans are great because “we don’t have real long memories”
Which is the real problem with america.
Here is a little known history of how slowly but surely the banksters have subverted the common man and stolen power and now part of the ruling elites. Anyone who offered resistance was mercilessly put down until corporations took on the rights of people.
Following the US Civil War, there was a mass uprising of people in the United States against big business. The coalition of “Free Soilers” and abolitionists that Lincoln had utilized to defeat the southern slave plantation owners did not dissolve after the war, but continued for several decades into a mass movement that thundered with hatred for bankers and the ultra-rich.
The millions who made up this massive coalition saw US intervention in Cuba and the Philippines, as well as other parts of the world, as a scheme to make money for Wall Street. Years before the powerful words of US Marine Corps General Smedley Butler, these forces had already discovered that “War is a Racket.”
The movement was very religious, and one of its principal leaders, William Jennings Bryan, was known for his opposition to Darwin’s theory of evolution. Many of the leaders of the movement were protestant Christian ministers.
This movement, which arose in the 1870s and declined in the early 1900s, was known as the “populist” movement. It seethed with hatred for the billionaires and bankers, but did not denounce “capitalism.” Instead, the target of the movement was “monopolists” and “trusts.” It wanted an “anti-monopoly government” that served “people, not money.”
The Rise of Anti-Monopoly Governments
What do the governments of Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe, the People’s Republic of China, Venezuela, Belarus, and Russia all have in common?
http://journal-neo.org/2014/11/25/russia-and-china-what-is-happening-beneath-the-propaganda-curtain/
Saker, I agree with your observations on contemporary western sexuality, and yet I think you’ve overlooked the real story.
Echoing the sentiments of two ‘Anonymous’ posters above (03:29 and 04:59), there is obviously more at work here than ordinary human sinfulness (which is hardly new or confined to the West). In the age of mass surveillance, cataloging people’s deviant behaviors and then SELECTIVELY manufacturing outrage at them is one important way the Empire maintains control.
You mentioned the cases of Scott Ritter and Alain Soral. But consider also the cases of Elliott Spitzer, Julian Assange, and Dominique Strauss-Krahn–all critics of the system in some important way, and all obvious targets of entrapment schemes. (If you don’t believe that DSK was being critical of the system, then read this: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/11/25/trotsky-at-the-imf/)
Then contrast these cases with those of Francois Hollande (whom you mentioned) and Bill Clinton. Had it been anyone other than Clinton, the feminists would have been up in arms at the idea of a boss sleeping with a subordinate; they would have scoffed at the idea of ‘consent’ in such a case. “Sexual harassment,” they would have hollered. “Off with his head!” But hey… it’s Bill! What are ya gonna do? (Please don’t believe for a minute that I supported Gingrich’s cynical, if unsuccessful, attempt to milk this for partisan gain.)
This is all J. Edgar Hoover stuff, but with modern surveillance technology. Any day now, I expect to be hearing that Ed Snowden sleeps in his sister’s nighty.
…my clearly stated belief that homosexuality is a personality disorder, a psycho-sexual pathology.
Homosexuality is congenital, a difference in brain development in utero exactly the same as being left handed (about the same % too). Is left handedness pathology??? Homosexuality exists in all societies even where it is seriously punished, in some places by death…they cannot help it, that is how they are born.
Keep believing what you like, it is your belief. But is there something in that belief system that says you have to insult others, who don’t match up to your ideals? your beliefs? anything in there about forcing them to act by your belief, not theirs? Is there? NO? I thought not. I hope you can dig out the Christian charity to not insult or disparage people for being what they were born as. (I am HOPING, not forcing this on you).
These “empty spaces”did not come out of nowhere. They are the direct result of a lifestyle which completely ignores the basic needs of our body, mind and soul. This is true for the food we eat, the air we breath, the exercise we don’t get, the human feelings we don’t get to show, the human relations we don’t get to experience and, of course, from a completely mistaken notion of what “good and satisfying sex” truly is.
You have some of that right, IMHO.
(1) “Lifestyle” is to some extent a choice: city living? beach living? travelling? What children are brought up with is not a “lifestyle” it is the ONLY LIFE THEY KNOW, and it remains so even if they notice the lives of others are not the same.
(2)then ok until you drag in satisfying sex. That is NOT what most people are looking for. They are looking for human contact…and all the other factors which you listed have given them NO OTHER EXAMPLES OF IT, no other way to get it, never were given love and affection and don’t know how to give it. Some give up and just turn to drink or drugs or over-eating instead. But for the ones who turn to promiscuity,it is NOT about “satisfying sex”, it is about human contact – or human contact other than being beaten. Physical contact is a human necessity – orphans kept in cribs and never touched except to change nappies fail to thrive – they plain shrivel up and die. If they do survive to adulthood you expect them to know how to be affectionate?
You yourself said this man Soral had a dreadful childhood — do you seriously expect him to grow up into a perfectly balanced well adjusted adult? HOW CAN HE when he has had NO SAMPLES of what that is?
This problem is NOT caused by non-Orthodox Christianity, nor by the lack of Christianity, nor by a surfeit of any other religion. The isolation from culture and community, even from most family is a result of an economic system that forces people to move out of their communities, turns them into nomads, takes them from clan support systems when they’re in trouble…caused by the end of feudalism,by the industrial revolution,by emigration, another round of industrialisation, depressions, unemployment…
All human nature,ie the nature of ALL humans, is highly susceptible to the social environment. It absolutely is not a matter of self control to avoid harmful excesses – it is a matter of a self that never knew anything else. Expecting an isolated abused neglected person to grow up balanced is like expecting him to speak Japanese overnight…never mind it is “easy even 5 year olds can speak it” (yeah, those who grow up with it).
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All human nature,ie the nature of ALL humans, is highly susceptible to the social environment. It absolutely is not a matter of self control to avoid harmful excesses – it is a matter of a self that never knew anything else. Expecting an isolated abused neglected person to grow up balanced is like expecting him to speak Japanese overnight…never mind it is “easy even 5 year olds can speak it” (yeah, those who grow up with it).
You say US Christianity “is deeply reactionary and never looks at the true causes of what it denounces.”… yes, that’s right, they go on about sin and the “only right way” for sex (and “wait until marriage” in a society where many can’t afford it until into their 30’s??). Same as you are saying just with a different religious label on it. No amount of deploring the situation will create a change; all it does is make people feel guilty for something society did to them.
“openly advocate a return to a very different social order”…. then they’d better find out what the causes are of the social order you don’t want. Nobody is going to “return to ” anything on anybody’s say so, and it certainly can’t be forced by law. It is a very delicate balance between the old die in your birth village way and the new mobile economics driven way. Play “happy families” while you starve?
Some things most people won’t want to return to, either. Marital violence for example — very widespread,just not talked about, in earlier times. Much worse than now and much more widespread, and violence to the kids as well. Because that is made possible first and foremost by INEQUALITY OF POWER. When a woman who left an abusive husband had the choice of starving or becoming a prostitute, most decided to stay and put up with it. Generations grew up believing it is NORMAL to beat your wife and kids. The same power inequalities meant master could beat his servants, lord his serfs, officer his enlisted men; less physically a worker has to tolerate verbal abuse and ridiculous demands from employers, or starve. Some choice. Your much deplored abuse of children by priests is just another example of power inequality enabling abuse.
Get rid of the inequalities,you’re 3/4 of the way to eliminating the abuse. Leaves you just with the drive to abuse, a big part of which is growing up as a victim of it and thereby learning that is a “normal” way to act. And part of it still is social acceptance of it.
TODAY bad power balances mean police consider it ROUTINE to beat up people they arrest. I am not talking Florida. I am talking Ukraine. Talking Russia. Talking ANY country which where prisoners don’t have rights to decent treatment, where confessions are considered enough for conviction, even if it’s confessions under torture, where people can end up in psychiatric institutions for being dissidents or suspects. Abusing people who are UNABLE TO GET AWAY FROM IT is not the sign of a free country, and not a sign of a Christian nation.
If Russia seriously advocates a better social order, it is well within their power to CREATE it, by starting with the parts they can directly control — the treatment of people by government agencies, starting with the most powerless. The two main groups of these are people in custody (arrested,prisoners etc) and people in “care” (orphans or disabled)…physically unable to get out from under any abuse meted out to them.
It all goes back to economics and resulting power/weakness. Forget this obsession with sex…especially other people’s. Only having one partner doesn’t guaranteed any satisfaction anyway — ask any woman forced to marry her family’s choice, “honour killed” or stoned if she makes her own choice. The secret is not in the singularity. The secret is in the free choice, and for that you have to balance the power over food and shelter.
@ Penepole
..teenage boys took the responsibility to see that things didn’t go too far;…
If they got s girl pregnant they’d have to marry her. Girls used “i don’t want to get pregnant” as the last way to say “no”. The coming of The Pill took that away, and nobody, neither girls nor boys, had learned the concept of the girl has a CHOICE without having to give reasons. There was a LOT of behaviour that today is counted as “date rape”. Then it was just called “normal” for boys to put pressure on.
People married young, 17, 18, 21 22. They could afford to – most did not go to college, no crippling lifetime debt, houses were cheap especially in smaller towns, jobs were plentiful. Family was close to help, with work, financially, with child rearing, in cases of disagreement. Pressure to stay together was huge, too. Young men frustrated in bad jobs or by a bad boss, or drunk once a week, used to getting their way at homed DID beat their wives, and those had nowhere to go.
Later came the city job boom, people moved into big cities for better jobs, more money, better life (which in those days in may cases meant simple stuff like electricity and running water). Then came credit squeezes, factories closed down, jobs were automated,people got stuck there isolated and poor. This happened all over UK and Europe too, the more “modernised” a country was the worse it was. Women had no choice but to look for work. If she found work and he didn’t, it just increased the frustrations.
In the first countries jobs got exported to, like Mexico, cities didn’t even have anywhere for non-locals to live. Village men flooded into the cities for jobs offering untold riches in wages, ended up living in slums built from the packaging of the parts of the cars they were assembling for middle class Americans…while the Americans who used to make these cars lived unemployed in slums. No social structure for these workers, the occasional girl, fired from the factory, had to trade sex for food. No Pill there, so…. but as mechanised farming spread, peasants got pushed off their lands, ended up in the slums too.
Yeah, everyone was polite up to early 60’s. “sir” and “M’am”. But there were plenty of “social angel home devils” around,it was not all the sweetness and kindness you remember. Then the protests, the drugs? haha, simple weed, homegrown, harmless, 1/10th the strength of today’s hydroponics. A turning away from obeying authority, which by then was already starting to treat people like dirt.
Joblessness. The push to get more education if you want a job. Debts. Years of delay in being able to marry; but the hormones were still there, the social pattern of what a “normal life progression” is was absent, as they’d moved out of those surroundings (by going to college,if not earlier). Gradually, more food, cheap processed high-carb food, led to earlier and earlier puberty, while the horizon for marriage moved further and further…in most societies before this, girls married no more than 4 or 5 years after puberty. Now they may be forced by law to still be in high school 7 years after (and then expected to do college, too).
I have to disagree with this ” If everyone else’s beliefs are as good as your own then your own are optional,” Tolerance does not mean all beliefs become a smorgarsbord, not that you have to give up yours. It means the other persons’ belief is good for HIM and you’re not meant to prevent him believe it. You don’t force him to live by your belief,he doesn’t force you to live by his. The only belief universally banned by tolerance is the one that says you may force others to yours.
Or of course you can go the other way and end up with maybe the Taliban in charge. Good deal, is it?
I broadly agree with Saker here and this is largely why I’m immigrating to Russia.
In the first countries jobs got exported to, like Mexico, cities didn’t even have anywhere for non-locals to live. Village men flooded into the cities for jobs offering untold riches in wages, ended up living in slums built from the packaging of the parts of the cars they were assembling for middle class Americans…while the Americans who used to make these cars lived unemployed in slums. No social structure for these workers, the occasional girl, fired from the factory, had to trade sex for food. No Pill there, so…. but as mechanised farming spread, peasants got pushed off their lands, ended up in the slums too.
In Europe of course, things changed a lot sooner. Most of most countries was like the Donbass is or worse, one way or the other very few women came out of the war as virgins, 1/4 to 1/5 the men were dead. Wait for marriage? seriously? Women had to work to get the countries rebuilt. Governments also expected them to produce children to rebuild the population. The father works mother brings up kids happy families went out the window.
Marriage was just one way to ensure food and shelter; i food comes from with heavy farm work and storing some for winter, it takes a fit man and woman, to survive together. Working for money, buying in your needs, it’s less important, it’s only for the social, community, human dimension. But that is lost in the internal migrations to those cash jobs.
The good people of Donbass would not be letting women into their armies were it not for this — the Soviet times when all women worked, heavy work too, that had previously been men’s work. They respect women because they respected their mothers. Many still live in settlements small enough to be a community. I hope they can somehow keep that. I hope Russia too can work out a way to have clusters of smaller communities, not huge soulless cities.
Question: Is a ‘faceplant’ the same thing as a facepalm?
Why is this dribble even being posted?!?
Complete waste of time and energy! Non Sequitur.
I don’t care about his sex life, really.
Given the corrupt French politics, with the leading zionist prezident having a 12 % approval ATM, I would’nt be surprised if he was set up somehow, by those he attacks. The french elite and/or zionist lobby, that is.
Surely there are sexually promiscuous men all over Russia, too ? It’s not a postmodern phenomena, leaders/”alfa”/whatever men have had several lovers and harems since the dawn of man.
@Saker while I agree with all these sexual escapades of often very adult and successful men to be rather comical (especially with filming their private parts and sending those to women), I quite disagree with some of your conclusions.
I don’t think promiscuity is “dysfunctional”. It’s natural, and has been part of male behavior of most primate species (including homo sapiens) for tens of thousands of years. It has simple and easy to explain roots in the theory of sexual selection and the so-called gender investment into the offspring. For primates, which are by the way a so-called K-species (with high investment into a single offspring, but very few offspring) the female investment into the offspring is many times greater than the male one, and thus the logical (and programmed into us already on the genetic level) reproduction strategy is radically different for males and females. For females, it is to find ONE possibly high-quality mate, bind him to you as much as possible, conceive many children from him, and make him care for them. For males, it is to find AS MANY AS POSSIBLE females (and quality is of not much concern) and to have children from all of them. This is basic biology, and THE central underlying reason why men like to “sleep around”, are not particularly choosy who the female is (as long as it doesnt result in a long-term binding), and women find babies cute and like billionaires in Bugattis.
Christianity with its compulsive monogamy etc is a rather new and a rather awkward and unnatural construct, from a biologist’s point of view. For example, Stanislav Drobyshevsky, a PhD in biology at MGU and an anthropology expert, writes the following:
“Скажу по секрету: перехода к моногамии не было вообще! Глобальные обзоры показывают, что подавляющее большинство современных культур полигамны, а те, что считаются моногамными (европейская христианская культура, например) по факту тоже полигамны (хотя часто это имеет вид сериальной моногамии или, что то же самое, последовательной полигамии, когда в один конкретный момент времени вроде моногамия, но через пару лет глядишь, – а пара-то уже другая!).”
[Let me tell you a secret: there was no transition to monogamy at all! Global studies show, that the overwhelming majority of modern cultures are polygamous, and those considered monogamous (for example, European Christian culture) are de facto also polygamous (although it often has the character of a serial monogamy, or, what is essentially the same thing, consecutive polygamy, where at one particular moment of time it looks like monogamy, but after a few years – look – the pair’s already different!]
Of course, all this is no excuse for irresponsible and juvenile sexual behavior – after all, our main difference from other animals is that we have the neocortex and our conscience in it to control and subdue our instincts. But it’s a solid scientific explanation for it, and it has nothing or little to do with culture – and everything to do with biology. And in that respect Russia isn’t really particularly different from the West – lots of divorces, lots of cheating, lots of prostitutes, you name it.
Saker, you say: “Being an Orthodox Christian, I also believe that our current human nature is a “fallen” one, and that our real/original human nature was lost as a result of Adam’s sin and that, in turn, tells me that asceticism and resulting self-control are not “luxuries for monastics”, but a vital necessity for every single human being.”
Isn’t this what Augustine of Hippo taught?
“By the way, in Greek the word “sin” (ἁμαρτία) means “missing the target” or a “failure to reach the goal”. Sin is not pissing off some morally rigid god sitting on a cloud who spends his time monitoring our sexual lives. “Sin” is simply not realizing our true nature and our true potential. Sin is inducing misery in ourselves, whether we realize it or not. Sin is ignoring our nature and mistreating ourselves.”
This blowed my mind. I’m a native dutch speaker and I’ve always knew the words for “sin” and “waste of potential” obviously, they’re the same word: “zonde”. However, it has never come to my mind (and probably not only mine) that this is no co-incidence. This is an eye-opener for me. For some reason non-christians hate this word “zonde” when used as “sin”. It is like a word that warns only for insulting christians, rather than being something that withholds you to do stupid things.
I’d love to hear people for other languages also point out their national similarity of the words “sin” and “waste of potential”.
regards,
Wolter
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Saker” “Feminists will tell us that men think with their genitals and not their brains…”
That’s true, actually, at least until a certain age. Where they are wrong is thinking this is bad.
I asked my wife how she defined a real man. She replied: A real man doesn’t hurt women and children. He protects women and children. He gives his life for them because they are the future, including his.
To do that, you need balls.
@anonymous:Isn’t this what Augustine of Hippo taught?
Close but not quite. The patristic consensus is that man lives in the *consequences* of the original sin, but not that he himself carries the individual responsibility for it. It’s very similar, but that nuance ended up being expanded by western theologians who eventually felt compelled to remove the original sin from the conception of the Mother of God so as to make her a worthy Mother for Christ. If they had stuck to the original Christian teaching about the original sin as expressed by the consensus of the Fathers and not as mis-interpreted by Augustine of Hippo the entire “Immaculate Conception” fiasco might have been avoided.
Augustine himself, by the way, never insisted that he was right. He even said that if his writings in contradicted the Church’s teachings in any way he repented for it. So I cannot blame him for being a little ‘off’ on this one issue. The problem is that in matters of theology, if one ‘off’ teaching is mistaken for the Patristic consensus it ends up snowballing and centuries down the road it turns into a genuine heresy.
Cheers
The Saker
His (I suppose, my french is not so good anymore, translated by Yandex) rebuttal. It seems most of the people behind the “scandal” are connected to zionist lobby in France.
“On 17 November, the paparazzi linked to the extreme israeli right, Jean-Claude Elfassi, published on his blog an article revealing a photo of Alain Soral naked …An article immediately picked up by sites that are ultra-zionists JSS News (Jonathan-Simon Sellem) and Dreuz.info, as well as by Frédéric Haziza on his Twitter account :…Due to these multiple publications controlled by the zionist lobby, the mainstream media give of themselves to their heart’s delight. First Rue89 (New Obs), which takes the advantage of the lie careful on 20 November :”
“If it is not incitement to racial hatred desired by the zionist lobby to break the dynamic of national Reconciliation, the campaign looks like it loud !…Alain Soral will reveal very soon the whole matter in a video to come.”
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Entreprise-de-destabilisation-massive-contre-Alain-Soral-suite-a-la-creation-de-Reconciliation-29244.html
Bravo Saker! Thank you for upholding what is good and true. Sexual morality is like the wheel. It makes all other forms of mobility possible; but when it breaks down then people engage in all sorts of foolish efforts to reinvent it. I am curious, though, do you have opportunity to worship in Orthodox Christian services in Florida? Your friend in Philadelphia–
Hey Saker,
A agree with all the fundamentals of your article. Nevertheless it might be a little wiser to wait for Soral’s version of events before to pronounce a definite judgement, like in any court of law I mean… Especially considering the amount of opposition and hatred the folk has been able to raise against himself ;-)
Thanks very much for your definition of sin; I’ve sent it on to others it’s so good. Thanks too fro the link to the Templeton Address.
As anonymice 14:08 and 14:26 said, there are a lot of missing infos to allow us to judge on the whole affair.
There is a lot of “strange” going on concerning the woman. It is claimed, for instance, that she’s 23, but that is definitely not true, as she was a cover girl in tabloid already back in 2005 (Entrevue #162). Either she is more like mid 30 or she was underage then.
She was also a model at Elite, participate in the TV show “Top model 2005”, etc.
This story stinks setup and zio-trap.
They tried with bribes, they tried with intimidation, they tried with violence, they tried with attacking his livelyhood, nothing worked. Now they will try by exploiting his “foibles”.
Saker, I am French too, like the other “anonymous” down there in the comments.
Honestly, Soral is a notorious fascist jerk.
I don’t agree with what “anonymous” said on the FN. First, they want nothing to do with Soral.
Second, the trouble with Svoboda had to do with Jean-Marie Le Pen, not his daughter Marine who has fundamentally changed the FN’s nature. It is today the most pro-Putin party in France, and certainly has no connection whatsoever to Svoboda, even if left-wing trolls are hard at convincing everyone of the opposite. Their job: ensuring the status quo carries on just as it is by sowing dissent.
The fact that Marine Le Pen’s policies would strictly be along the same lines as Putin’s doesn’t matter to them. Or does it?
As for the dysfunctional nature of the West’s sexuality, we agree, but please stop taking jabs at the Catholic Church. They have that awful side, but are less bad than Protestants (the pedophilia problem is worse amongst the Protestants) and certainly the western atheistic “ruling elite” – the worst of all (see the scandals in the UK at the moment).
Quote, “Insurance companies, child advocacy groups and religion scholars say there is no evidence that Catholic clergy are more likely to be involved in sexual misconduct than other clergy or professionals. Yet ongoing civil litigation of decades-old cases against a church with deep pockets keeps the Catholic Church in the headlines.
“There is no plausible evidence that Catholic priests are gangs of sexual predators, as they are being portrayed,” said Pennsylvania State University Prof. Philip Jenkins, eminent religion and history scholar, and a non-Catholic who’s studied the church’s abuse problems for 20 years.
Jenkins said there has been no formal study comparing denominations for rates of child abuse. However, insurers have been assessing the risks since they began offering riders on liability policies in the 1980s. Two of the largest insurers report no higher risks in covering Catholic churches than Protestant denominations.”
http://blogs.denverpost.com/hark/2010/05/25/scandal-creates-contempt-for-catholic-clergy/39/
And:
http://www.themediareport.com/2013/10/02/evangelical-sex-abuse-worse-than-catholic-church/
I am personally not a Christian of any denomination, but the West needs some sort of faith, and if you take away their Catholic Church, what do you leave them with? It already has emptiness enough as it is. I don’t say the Church is clean, I say let the Catholic people, who is extremely watchful, handle this.
Plus, you’re playing right where the Western system wants you: you keep hitting the Catholic Church and they’ll end up giving you an award. And they’ll go on to rape young boys under their “democratic” and “free” banner.
They hate the Catholic Church, hence the relentless attacks. And the very same who yell at the Church will look the other side when some liberal atheist is suspected.
As for “Kat Kan” down there, how can anyone with half a brain and an Internet connection still believe in the Uber-debunked “born that way” theory? When are these ignorant Americans going to learn to get their informations straight before they speak?
It’s everyday, that you see them spouting some nonsense they have pulled out of their a…
Irritating, to say the least.
Hey Saker,
Before I started reading your blog, I never really gave much thought to the whole issue area of homosexuality. I mean fine it exists, I am familiar with all the official western positions on it, but it has never interested me enough to care to form my own opinion about. I have some male homosexual friends, some are quite happy some are rather not so much, but I never had the impression that they had any choice in their sexuality. Except for the choice to suppress it. I think it’s a different story for women though. Most lesbian friends I have are actually bisexual but have at some point made a choice to date only women because the lesbian community is apparently terribly exclusive and not-at-all open to bisexual women. So female sexuality is apparently somewhat more malleable than male sexuality.
Anyway I would like to ask you if you have developed in a previous post your opinion of viewing homosexuality as a psycho-pathology. Perhaps you can refer to it, or perhaps you can refer to some literature on the topic, because this type of thinking is certainly hard to find on this subject. The diktat of political correctness is making it all but impossible. But still I mean a pathology basically means that something is harmful to the individual or to other individuals around the individual. I don’t really see why homosexuality must necessarily and under all circumstances be harmful.
In monogamous animals, especially in ducks, homosexuality is a coping mechanism, when there is a gender imbalance in a population. It also exists in other animals.
Would be interesting to hear you develop that topic for us. As of now I neither agree or disagree but I would like to hear your arguments.
Kind regards
D.
re: homosexuality
“Homosexuality is congenital, a difference in brain development in utero exactly the same as being left handed (about the same % too). Is left handedness pathology??? Homosexuality exists in all societies even where it is seriously punished, in some places by death…they cannot help it, that is how they are born.”
Homosexuality is as old as humanity (~5% ?) and so it was mostly tolerated but never accepted as a replacement for the family. And its small percentage may indicate that’s it’s in fact some dysfunction – like daltonism or trees that grow wrong. Another example would be that some forms of psychopathy/sociopathy have been medically correlated with different forms of brain damage (see “Political Ponerology” by Lobaczewski) and if my memory serves they are also said to exist in any society with roughly similar frequencies. So an age-old existing condition does not imply that it is necessarily a useful or desirable trait. In the case of homosexuality it is obvious that homosexual relationships are not based on the physical and emotional complementarity that exists between man and woman – and so we should keep an open mind as to its explanation.
And finally the fact that the Empire of Lies is unceasingly beating the MSM and other drums for homosexuality (see f. ex. http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=981) is an almost direct proof that it is not good for society isn’t it?
btw I think anyone interested in this post will be interested in a little documentary by ‘paleo-conservative’ philosopher Roger Scruton called Why Beauty matters. I have to run, but it’s either on youtube or torrent sites. A good companion peice may be the book ‘Postmodernism: the cultural logic of late Capitalism’ by Fredric Jameson
Saker writes:
” The patristic consensus is that man lives in the *consequences* of the original sin, but not that he himself carries the individual responsibility for it.”
I write:
I’m not “responsible” for the fallen nature of human beings. I carry within me the disabilities of a fallen creation and the loss of the original preternatural virtues, since I myself am a part of that nature which is fallen. The disabilities are, in a manner of speaking, imprinted, morally genetic.
But to be guilty of mortal sin, which willfully separates me from God, I must have full knowledge of the quality of the sin and freedom of choice in choosing whether or not to commit the sin.
Within myself I acknowledge a failure to love God, creation and my fellow creatures as I should and to the fullest extent to which I am capable. Christ’s reparation by His sacrifice on Golgotha makes up the difference.
It seems to me that the actual differences between Orthodoxy and Catholicism on this point are not insuperable.
Putin has something in the works. Russia refuses to cut oil production so oil prices hit a 4 year low while gas prices are rebounding, Dont understand why Russia even went to the meeting. The long game seems to be Russia trying to keep Oil prices low to blow up the huge debt taken on US oil companies and shale oil producers. Low Oil prices are great for the common man and industries and growth. But not when leveraged at high prices in a financial system thats tightly controlled.
The banksters will be the most affected by this but they will be bailed out by Americans.
I would love it if these cultural write-ups became a regular feature here.
Blue said “One may speak in a religious language, but it needs to be translated into the language of other religions, and ultimately in the underlying normative values which promotes, rather than obstructs, a functioning and happy society, and healthy psychological and spiritual existence.”
Bravo, Blue. Perfecto.
Thank you Saker for your hard work.I’ve been looking for an appropriate time to post this You-tube video by Jonathan Cahn.
After reading the 1983 Templeton Address you posted, this speech before the 2013 inauguration of Obama fits quite well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhFAisJLfXk
Jim from MV
Another Zionist conspiracy or the hand of God ??? !!!
Marine Le Pen: I know nothing about the political platform. I keep reading that she’s so right-wing, that her party is neo-fascist. But the only specific that’s mentioned is anti-immigration. Who in the world should decide how many immigrants to be permitted except the citizens? What’s so awful about saying “Enough’s enough.”? Obviously the criminals who’ve captured our govts want more immigration cuz it makes it harder for ordinary people to have any say in governing because we can’t form a consensus w people we can’t even speak with. Excessive immigration is just another way to weaken individual nations, and our feelings of solidarity towards our own. If anyone has a good site on what Marine actually stands for please post it. Thanks
Two tiny things I have to say about sexuality:
-That it is desirable to integrate it with one’s whole person, including the rational & spiritual. This, rather than likening it to the biological urge of some species of male beasts to impregnate as many females as possible.
-That sexual sublimation is a powerful force within individuals and societies ancient and modern. A force that impels many to seek out ideals & truths in philosophy, religion, music, art, science– in all things. In times past was this great striving among the very young– and in some places, still.
Big Thanks for posting a connect with Solzhenitsyn’s “Men Have Forgotten God” – The Templeon Address. What Solzhenitsyn missed is in the message at the end of this comment.
Did “nature’s God” approve of the Orthodox Church when He allowed the Marxists & the Turks to slaughter hundreds of millions of Christians?
How can “Orthodoxy” save Russia when it’s mentality lost all of the Middle East, North Africa, Constantinople, Eastern Europe, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Libya, and Ukraine?
Christ gave Christians a message to avoid all these disasters and rescue the whole world.
His message applies especially to Russia as being a Christian nation, with the heritage of Constantinople, and the recognition that the world is under Christ’s Rule.
View it at http://raifwp.wordpress.com/
It isn’t 100% finished, but is vital for any Christian nation.
re: Marital violence.
“Marital violence for example — very widespread,just not talked about, in earlier times. Much worse than now and much more widespread, and violence to the kids as well. Because that is made possible first and foremost by INEQUALITY OF POWER. When a woman who left an abusive husband had the choice of starving or becoming a prostitute, most decided to stay and put up with it. Generations grew up believing it is NORMAL to beat your wife and kids….”
This is part of the feminist propaganda that was used to destroy the family. I remember articles where the feminists were challenged to prove their very generalized accusations of marital violence – and they only could prove ~5% (sorry, no links, that’s ~15 years ago). IMO the Western reality (as opposed to the propaganda) is less extreme and more balanced:
– humans are very different from one another and this always creates difficulties in partnerships. And as there is a small percentage of people who are /very difficult/ (maybe even sociopaths or psychopaths) there will be a small percentage of marriages which include violence.
– Women can be as difficult as men and I would be very surprised if sociopathy was only a male phenomenon: I think for example that you can easily find female sociopaths when you look at stories of mothers-in-law who make a whole family suffer (I’ve personally met several specimens). And it is interesting to note that these stories exist in every culture. Another example of female sociopathy would be the mother who forces her daughter to spend her life with her for company (I’ve met 2 of those – and there are some paintings which take up this subject, f. ex. Segantini’s “Die bösen Mütter” i.e. “the evil mothers”). And a last example of female sociopathy would be the imperious feminist who sees herself as a sort of superior being who is never wrong and who will absolutely not tolerate opinions different from her own. These examples simply show that female sociopathy expresses itself differently from male sociopathy.
– a basic difference between men and women is that when faced with real conflict most men tend to react with their fists while women hurt with their words and most of all with their accusations (i.e. when they portray themselves as victims).
So IMO seriously failed marriages are caused in equal proportions by men and by women – the only difference is that accusations against men (i.e. physical violence) are much easier to prove than accusations against women (i.e. emotional violence).I’ve personally been married for 40 years now and I’ve spend >50% of my life in the same area so by now I know many people there and the facts that I know confirm this practical conclusion.
Seriously disagree on this one Saker. The empire you talk about controls male politicians with blackmail precisely because too many ppl like you will stop being allies with someone who opposes the empire based on often normal behaviour. I have four girlfriends and I am talking to someone else I know into playing doctor right now. Sure, I would not strip on a webcam or let photos be taken on purpose, but at least one woman probably kept a photo she took of me and her adult friend against my permission and could sell it to the neocons if I got to be a political figure against them. I hated Ritter when I was for the Iraq War but even then I knew he was being set up for political purposes and knew that was evil. I hated Assange when I was a neocon but instantly went on his side when they tried to arrest him for two timing two women. The empire set out to raise the age of consent to make it easier to set men up for blackmail (while feminists helped because they hated men who were not interested in them). They would raise the age of consent to 21 if they thought it would pass. No, monogamy is OK for some guys but others just need to have game enough not to have to get sexual on the Internet. As far as arguing with women in electronic form, any single male will have such a record. I have excoriated feminism in some online arguments. That is probably enough to keep me from running for office, but almost all intelligent men would be so disqualified in the electronic age. We will get dumber and more blackmailed politicians as we continue to judge ppl for online stuff that was supposed to stay secret.
You know those British pedos are politicians because the empire wants their loyalty in order to stay out of jail.
@ notsofast
it’s not a matter of what exactly causes homosexuality. The point is people are born with it. It is not something they choose and which they may be put off choosing by “not publicising it”. It is something they are born as, and as such should not be disparaged or penalised for it.
@ ANONYMOUS
“As for “Kat Kan” down there, how can anyone with half a brain and an Internet connection still believe in the Uber-debunked “born that way” theory? When are these ignorant Americans going to learn to get their informations straight before they speak? “
If you’re so smart you ca call me names, how about you give me a couple of links to reliable sources to prove what you are claiming?
OR if you believe they are not born with it, just explain to me how doe they get that way? pleased don’t tell me they “choose” in countries where it can lead to jail or execution, so tell me that.
I honestly believe that if same-sex stuff were not represented in the media and culture, few would even think of it. Yes, there is a small percentage of people who have a genetic/brain-biochemistry tendency toward same-sex relationships, a small percentage, smaller even than the percentage of born “left-handers” AND THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO MISTREATMENT.
But a great deal of western obsession with same-sex activity is culturally induced “try-outs.” Nothing more.
I can’t begin to count the number of women I know of who [here in central U.S.] have left “life-long” lesbian relationships to get married [whoops, more correctly take a husband who happens to be male] and have children.
I think highly of V.V. Putin’s perspective on this, as well as the never-to-be-seen sheer rationality [in the western media] of the recent joint statement of the Russian and Serbian Orthodox Patriarchs on precisely this issue.
And I care nothing for theological details, not of importance to me at all. I don’t have to find something in any book of revealed truth to arrive at the same, empirically.
jbaker in U.S.
As an oldie I can remember very well the attitude of ordinary people in the Uk, circa 1955-65.
The ordinary people viewed homosexuals as queers,notable persons as Camp’,i.e.comedians,and celebrities.
At that time homosexuallity was illegal,the public scandals concerning the Cambridge spy ring of ,Kim Philby,Burgess,McClean ,Anthony Blunt…the establishment realised that this made the Realm very insecure,and the possibility of blackmail of many public figures a certainty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five.
The first movements came as a private members bill and was passed unopposed,all this bill actually did was to de-criminalize homosexuality,between consenting adults in private!.
Decade after decade the rot set in…not content with the status quo…they began to refer to themselves as ‘gay’ and demand more and more status,much the same as in Australia where lesbians,did not simply want equality,but superiority….Entire inner city suburbs taken over,…only gay’s here!…if you go to Oz…..check out Oxford Street,Sydney!.
The recent trials and convictions of prominent figures,comes on the heels of the Jimmy Saville
revelations,but….these things were common knowledge prior to his death,the establishment waited for a year after his death before beginning their ‘investigations’.
Witch hunts are being conducted for what are called ‘historical crimes’, accusations,with no physical proof required,four people telling the same story was enough for a six year prison sentence for Rolf Harris,from the much vaunted…. ‘British Justice System’.
Where here in the UK,just like America,they conduct secret trials,
have secret witnesses,aka… witness A, witness B, witness C.
Same sex relationships can be just
as violent as male/female,I have seen the bruises,I have also seen
women beat up smaller men.
The world I was born into was one of …..Adam & Eve….not Adam & Bruce!
Caveat Emptor!
Poland – Missiles
The irony is that those missiles could hit Moscow, but they could never hit Donetsk or the actual fighting in Ukraine, even though Poland has a natural border with Ukraine but not Russia (excluding Kaliningrad).
People forget just how small the area where there is fighting is, and just how far East it is.
I am very sorry because of what happened to Soral.
But I am sympathizing with him. After all, he is French. It is French culture which produced such big names in history of literature as Marquis de Sade (who influenced Dostoyevsky, for example).
Sexual liberalism is what Franch culture is about.
And , we should not forget this – in first 10 years of Putin s government, Russia was mostly known in Western world for its homosexual band T.a.t.U.. That was Russia I loved also. I am sorry that Putin embraced Orthodox Christianity (though I must support him because of my pan-Slavism).
The Wend.
Correction of previous mistake of jbaker in U.S. 26 November, 2014 21:33
text [earlier] which was presented in blog to read “AND THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO MISTREATMENT.”
No No, !!! It was supposed to read “AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO MISTREATMENT.”
JBaker in U.S. who is certainly NOT a fascist/Uki Nazi type, not at all Sorry!
original text with error copied below:
Anonymous said…
I honestly believe that if same-sex stuff were not represented in the media and culture, few would even think of it. Yes, there is a small percentage of people who have a genetic/brain-biochemistry tendency toward same-sex relationships, a small percentage, smaller even than the percentage of born “left-handers” AND THEY SHOULD NOT [correction] BE SUBJECT TO MISTREATMENT.
But a great deal of western obsession with same-sex activity is culturally induced “try-outs.” Nothing more.
I can’t begin to count the number of women I know of who [here in central U.S.] have left “life-long” lesbian relationships to get married [whoops, more correctly take a husband who happens to be male] and have children.
I think highly of V.V. Putin’s perspective on this, as well as the never-to-be-seen sheer rationality [in the western media] of the recent joint statement of the Russian and Serbian Orthodox Patriarchs on precisely this issue.
And I care nothing for theological details, not of importance to me at all. I don’t have to find something in any book of revealed truth to arrive at the same, empirically.
jbaker in U.S.
26 November, 2014 21:33
Hi Blue ! Your quote
“The problems are not religious, but the breakdown lack of, or lack of adherence to a coherent social, ethical, and positive system of philosophical, cultural, and ‘spiritual’ system — regardless of the narrative or doctrine it is expressed through.”
Blue, what is the difference between a spiritual system and religion ? I don’t go to church but I’m very religious…
If we as a race lose God then we’re done for. And this is what America is losing…Saker calls it post-Christian. Although many older people here still go to church, the churches don’t have anything new to say…they are at a dead end. That’s why I’m into Steiner…he updates religion in an extremely comprehensive way… He calls it Sp[iritual Science”…and that’s not anything to do with Scientology…which is terrible….
If you really want to comprehend the depth of American’s sexual depravity, read The Franklin Cover-Up by John DeCamp and The Trance Formation of America by Cathy O’Brien.
These books are chilling accounts of how pedophilia is practiced with impunity by America at the highest levels of political power.
It is truly sickening and will shock even the most politically jaded people here.
Part I
Whatever may be the case, married or not, Soral is yet another example of the fact that the West is, truly, the most sexually dysfunctional society on the planet and that western hetero-sex is every bit as dysfunctional as its homo-sex.
Even if I agree with the broader sentiment, what percentage of Westerners would qualify as sexually dysfunctional versus those in other societies?
You opted for buckshot when you should of chosen an armour piercing flechette.
If indignation is your weapon then you ought to aim carefully. A casual perusal of porn from the USA, Russia, Ukraine and Germany (if you can bare it) will conclusively demonstrate that ‘Jewish Sex’ dominates all. It wasn’t always this way although I now wonder if the Playboys I saw as a boy were a gateway to the present state of affairs.
By Jewish Sex I specifically mean the trend towards humiliating sexual partners with the so-called ‘money shot’ or other disrespectful behaviour, usually to signal the end of a sexual act. Several years ago I noticed that almost all porn became unwatchable as it took this awful turn. I am positive the majority of people found it disgusting when it was introduced but we all know that people can be downgraded easily when they become addicted to cheap thrills and the 100% Jewish producers of porn have always been eager to defile all the shishka’s. Among some of my newer foreign born friends, I have found in recent years, there is now an expectation that this is how all sex is conducted in the West. Recently all have felt the need to negotiate and discuss this aspect of love making before proceeding to intimacy. At first I was suprised but now I grudgingly accept this as further evidence of the intentional poisoning of all human relationships by Anglo-Zionist media — but also of the TOTAL LACK OF AN APPROPRIATE OR COHERENT RESPONSE by pointedly righteous junior Jews of Christian, Islamic and secular globalist culture.
The situation with porn is no different from the so-called Hollywood effect we’re all so familiar with and I am giving out way too much information because I feel compelled to state that NO, this is not what all men in the West want or expect and it would be good if we said so but there is more to this story concerning why this behaviour is winning the day.
Part II
I don’t feel terribly embarrassed about having enjoyed the sight of a beautiful naked woman from time to time, more in my youth but the space for mere ‘titilation’ seems to be gone forever and I don’t see it as a sign of my own personal dysfunction so much as evidence of the calculated degradation of all things healthy and beautiful. To address the comparison to wine, I can enjoy the consumptive aspect of one or two glasses without being a drunken alcoholic pervert. I accept if you judge differently for yourself but I don’t give a rat’s ass about your moralizing blanket pronouncements.
Full spectrum dominance means a war on all things which might elevate a normal person, including love and physical beauty. The primary target of this project (formalized by the Frankfurt School) has always been the social interactions of all people but I am also a little put off by the people who feign purity. If you are in a loving and healthy relationship with someone I’m happy for you but I have yet to meet a person who doesn’t possess some kind of dysfunction, sexual or otherwise. Righteousness in particular makes me puke because all of its practitioners are drawing for themselves a distinction of Superiority and Supremacy which does not withstand scrutiny EVER. This is how I perceive most (though not all) Christian and Islamic responses to sex and physical attractiveness. The traditional reactions of religious people are almost always in some respect hypocritical and this does everything to feed the dysfunction inherent to our Judeo-Christian-Islamic culture.
Whether you like it or not, sex is about both the idealized aspects of Love and also of POWER. You can’t bury half of the story and expect a reasonable analysis or outcome. Understanding this aspect might also give you a better understanding about how to confront innate human corruptibility without falling into Freudian dilectical traps.
You are better compared to what and to whom?
We have a culture of accumulated dialectics that is thousands of years old and it would be refressing if smart people could break the cycle instead of continuously allowing themselves to be drawn in to the Roman-Talmudic trap. Outwardly we all talk about healthy sexuality like we know something but all of us respond to the trappings of physical-material-sexual power.
Part III
So Alain Soral has a problem which made him prone to getting sucked into an internet honey trap. So fk’n what! I didn’t look into it in details because I DON’T GIVE A DAMN.
Thinking about it for just two seconds, minus the righteous attitude, will allow you to see that he made a stupid mistake in line with his proclivities but only after years of relentless pressure from his Anglo-Zionist enemies. What if the attention of the world was turned so decisively on you? They have worked hard to bring this man down but I am suprised you would feel the need to help them along. He confronts the source of the dysfunction in the most direct way possible and he’s suffered a lot for his troubles — all on our DO NOTHING LAZY ASS ACCOUNT. You should know better than to join in the pile-on.
Seriously, does joining the manufactured AZ circus of denunciations do anything to help us learn about his important ideas? What is the purpose of this exercise? I’d say it has more to do with you then with Alain Soral. I am sick to death of Christian hypocrisy and how it always leads the supposedly righteous and faithful to push weaker people to helplessness, self-loathing, despair and then viola — the Christian slave-cult of redemption.
Man, what a racket! Hugh Hefner couldn’t-a-done it without ya.
I have no doubt that Orthodoxy and Shi’ism are the least defiled of the Greek-Roman-Semetic belief systems but it is because they fight against their degraded aspects, not because they are entirely absent. An ugly external enemy has done wonders for reminding then about what is truly evil and how to avoid falling into a similar trap. Western Christians and Sunnis have absorbed the predeterminist notions of Mosaic law to their fullest extent but now as I recall Gilad Atzmon’s claim that Jews create anti-semites because they need them, I am reminded the same thing applies to Orthodox Christians vis a vis Roman Catholicism, Protestantism and more generally the West.
You should thank God for your openly dysfunctional ‘enemies’ because without them your version of your reign would be no less terrible. On the matter of Soral, what was Jesus’ response to Mary Magdelen and how might you bring about a similar kind of attitude amongst the people who sorround you instead of worrying about the easy distant targets for which your compassion plays a distant second to your need to draw self-righteous distinctions.
I warned you about spending too much time with those snivelling Anglo-Repressados.
Hi Saker,
Maybe you should consider that there is also something like culture at play here. In France the view about sex, and what is healthy sex, is different than in Germany or UK or Russia etc. I found it interesting the point you made about checking unwanted pregnancy figures and others to measure the “sexual health” of a civilisation, but extra conjugal relations – or in that case, possibly extra conjugal sexual fantasy of a relation – is hardly as sound. One could argue than committing to one couple is unhealthy. I do that myself, but I don’t see that as something good or bad. It’s just my way.
Beside:
– you don’t know if Soral is still married/in couple. With all the pressure on him I won’t be surprised to learned his wife left him a few months ago. Remember, that’s what Dieudonne’s first wife did when his troubles started.
– in France culture we typically consider that sexual matters have nothing to do in politic. Interestingly that’s mainly the muslim crowd (which Soral had succeeded to interest) that really feels bad about this.
– frankly I am a bit surprised and disappointed by your reaction. You noted yourself that Soral was going to be severly attacked by the system. You see one picture of Soral naked and some screen capture of some SMS (whith no proof they’re by him) and you don’t hold your horse in the slightest ?
Soral is an atypical guy who indeed has his share of issues (although I suspect he’s especially healthy on the sex stuff, at least according to my view on the matter) but if member of the resistance can be so easily divided then there is no resistance to speak of in the first place.
Fortunately I think this “affair” will be of limited impact. It’s interesting that E&R instead of hiding it keep it as a cover story for days, insisting “this is the beginning of the smear campaign vs AS”. Despite the risk of bad reaction and making a huge publicity to something that harms Soral they appeal to their reader’s intellect.
About Soral and E&R:
– people who says he’s not important may be right electorally wise but his website has a huge audience and his ideas do spread. Cf saker’s article about Zemmour’s book.
– I mock the idea of Soral being racist. His association is the living accomplishement of what institutional anti racism claimed they wanted to achieve, while the political party who created that institutional anti racism as an electoral tool (namely, PS, currently in power) is the opposite. If you want all religion and color, a PS meeting is a joke, but E&R meeting cuts it. BTW a lots of jews as well in the main figures of E&R. I don’t think you had that in Nazi’s publications
– some people doesn’t seem to realise that this blog constantly blame the anglo zionist. In Saker’s mind, Resistance here means resistance to the Anglo Zionist empire. In that context it feels hard to argue against Soral & Dieudonné leading this in France.
The Saker is truly everywhere now including the bedroom. It’s not enough that we must submit to his chosen brand of superstition but now he is our ‘Inquisitor’ listing our sins and preparing the fires for the coming purification.
Anyone who thinks that a patriarchial, dogmatic belief system will save the world or stop wars does not know history or is deluded, it is the basis for war and oppression especially of women and the Other.
@Saker
Thanks for the article, it is enlightening on a way of thinking that is pretty alien to me. I believe that society’s role is to offer a framework for each to use their ability so that all can live the best possible life.
Anonymous @ 26 November, 2014 08:05 hits the nail on the head.
The new le Pen is using the same tricks as the old le Pen: same links(GUD,…), same financing intermediaries, essentially the same project; The difference is the new marketing method.
A while back I said that Soral was seen as a bit of a violent fascist. I hate saying that, but “I told you so”.
Dieudonne already has his political facepalm moment when making concentration camp jokes.
To respond to the comments of some here talking about French culture, I am French born and bred (if also myself a legal alien somewhere else now) and anyone (as the many in the comment) thinking that the behaviour of Soral is culturally acceptable has missed may 68 and the evolution of culture from this point.
Finally, if there is something that does not fly withing French culture, it is the abuse of class/social privilege in the private sphere (because of revolution, equality, all this). The separation between the function and the private person, until recently was seen as sacred, it started to change under Sarkosy, who has a tendency to import US ways of doing things. Soral by using the power of his function to resolve a personal conflict breaks this fundamental social contract and through this more that any other bit of this incident proves himself to be scum in the view of society (not that it needed doing much).
He made some enemies in the process with people who think that the colour of a persons’s skin is of more significance than the colour of their eyes; I have no idea how it will be possible for Dieudonne to be seen collaborating with him after this
Where Wolf.
Well, that’s quite a rant…sounds like you’re mad at someone. Maybe yourself ?
People in the past were often very talented in some ways, but out of control in other ways. Alcoholics for example have been some of the “great men” in times gone by. And crazy womanizers have led successful literary careers…
But today people need to be more cohesive within themselves. Today’s challenges demand more from a person that before.
I feel sorry for Deudonne, who is happily married, as far as I know, and now he’s even more alone, because this has wrecked his chances of staying out of jail, it appears to me, anyway..
Anyone that can get up on a political forum like Saker describes Soral doing…and boast about screwing around with other men’s wives is not “all there”.
And please… Saker is a double Scorpio. If he can do it…any one can do it. By “it” I mean be faithful to his wife…and to himself…because its in the holy book that a man his wife are one flesh, one blood.
Ok, now you’ve had your sermon.
And by the way, why do you think men need this “porn” so much, but not the rest of us.? I seriously don’t think porn helps life to get better in any way. I’ve seen guys that were really into porn, and they are single, miserable, substance-abusing losers. Then they get a girlfriend, become more happy, are more communicative and feel like they’re a success…not a failure.
Too many ejaculations bring you down. Semen is powerful stuff…the ancient Chinese emperors used to drink it.
Check out “Mantak Chia” and his Tao books…its all in there.
Take care, and cheer up buddy.
Saker, I just want to say that this has been a fantastic post. You did it again.
What’s this obsession with SEX?
What’s this idea that morality is all about sex?
Is that the only morality that matters? has Christianity nothing to say about other subjects of morality? isn’t the obsession with SEXUAL morality just another face of the same obsession with sex the same Christians criticise so much? just with a self-righteous holier-than-thou superiority?
Christ did not condemn Mary Magdalene – or her customers. He DID condemn the money-changers. Where is the MORAL outrage against those here?
I have no links, but since no one else has mentioned it, I will. Doubtless the “causes” of homosexuality are varied, but there are possible physical causes.
I remember years ago a positively congratulatory article in either Time or Newsweek about how sperm count is down in all the countries they tested– I don’t remember if that was more than US & Europe. It wouldn’t be terribly surprising if what affects fertility might in some men affect sexual behavior.
A nutritional deficiency while still developing body & brain could affect males for life.
A few possibilities: substitution of vegetable fats for animal fats.
Animals subject to deficient diet often suffer from perverted sexual behaviors. Females may become aggressive. Males may mount other males. However, the oft-repeated “homosexuality” among male animals does not involve penetration, is merely a behavior not an act.
How about all the pseudo estrogens which come into contact w our food? (plastics, etc.) I’ve often wondered about the plastic in the huggies. I have a friend who has documented w yearbooks that male secondary sexual characteristics have diminished over the past 100 years.
Another factor in human development is having sufficient iodine for full thyroid function, rather than just enough to prevent goiter. The conditioners with which bread is made used to contain iodine. Now they contain bromine instead, which displaces iodine in the body. Thyroid has immense effects upon the other hormones.
@ Kat Kan
“it’s not a matter of what exactly causes homosexuality. The point is people are born with it. It is not something they choose and which they may be put off choosing by “not publicising it”. It is something they are born as, and as such should not be disparaged or penalised for it.”
Yes they are born with it and so are many people with different handicaps – but this does not mean that they should be publicised as role models in society – IMO tolerance is quite ok but replacement of the family is destructive (which I feel is the real objective of the AZ propaganda).
I fully agree with Gallier2, this story looks like an attempt to slander Soral, who is a outspoken critic of the Jewish political mafia running France..
Soral might or might not have stepped into this honey-trap, after all, we know that foto shopping is well advanced..
Here in Switzerland we have seen exactly the same modus operandi, against Geri Muller, an open supporter of Hamas. He is said to have sent a selfie of himself naked, to a woman friend in her thirties.. (the entire Swiss MSM howled in synchro with the Jewish instigators)
http://jewishbusinessnews.com/2014/09/09/badens-mayors-nude-selfie-breeds-anti-jewish-conspiracy-theories/
Saker is going way too deep into psychological explanations about Soral’s behavior..
Caveman
I agree with Saker. These sexual things have been overlooked since liberalism really imbedded itself in our western cultures…eastern too actually…and that its time to look clearly at these things and educate children about the traditional views in the bible and koran and other religions…
Religious education should be a part of every class, but different religions…as a study of history, not moralizing…
Then young adults could choose for themselves.
By the way, just to say that I think the spiritual part of humanity is stronger than any weird cult of homo or whatever,
I have a good friend, who was raised by two lesbians. A guy, and he is straight, and such a wonderful person, although not a really strong personality, but good natured and good hearted, and hard working, and very tolerant… So its not all bad.
Wayoutwest said…
“The Saker is truly everywhere now including the bedroom. It’s not enough that we must submit to his chosen brand of superstition but now he is our ‘Inquisitor’ listing our sins and preparing the fires for the coming purification.”
Wayoutwest, we’re sharing points of view on an important topic. No one is forcing anyone to “submit”. If you don’t agree or don’t want to express your own view, that’s fine, but don’t be so defensive about the saker or anyone else expressing his.
This blog is the only place where I ever read that Soral was a “philosopher”. Well, here goes your philosopher.
I had been thinking for a while that this crypto-fascist patriot looked more and more like Professeur Choron instead, without the humor, that is. I wasn’t too far from the truth after all.